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ehoch
May 23rd, 2008, 12:14 PM
Did this on the US swimming forum before - so maybe people here will be interested as well.

Name the top 2 finishers in all events + the time of the SECOND place finisher (what it takes to make the team) - order of finish is not important (yet, but will be a few weeks later).

One point for each correct name and 1 point if the time is within 2/10 per 100 (plus or minus; 4/10 per 200 and so on). I know - leaving out the relays, but that's a little too much to handle.

Tie-breaker: Guess Time for Susan Von der Lippe in the 100 Fly (this is a Masters forum after all - and no offense to Kevin Doak, but she is the oldest participant as of today)

PRIZE: Title of Ultimate Swim Fan (and swim geek) and rights of never being questioned on this forum about an opinion for 1 year !!!

Entries: Post in this Thread by evening of Trials in this format (last name only - please)
Time for Susan in the 100 Fly to the 1/100
Name Name Time
Name Name Time
...

Warren
May 23rd, 2008, 07:28 PM
i'll start....

Tie Breaker- 1:02.24

Men
50 free- Adrian, Hall Jr., 21.80
100 free- Lezak, Phelps, 48.30
200 free- Phelps, Vanderkay, 1:45.60
400 free- Vanderkay, Vendt, 3:45.00
1500 free- Jenson, Vendt, 14:53.00
100 fly- Croker, Phelps, 50.60
200 fly- Phelps, Tarwater, 1:56.00
100 breast- Hansen, Gangloff, 1:00.00
200 breast- Hansen, Shanteau, 2:10.00
100 back- Piersol, Lochte, 53.10
200 back- Lochte, Piersol, 1:54.50
200 IM- Lochte, Phelps, 1:55.20
400 IM- Phelps, Lochte, 4:08.80

Women
50 free- Torres, Joyce, 24.50
100 free- Coughlin, Weir, 53.50
200 free- Hoff, Coughlin, 1:56.50
400 free- Hoff, Ziegler, 4:04.00
800 free- Ziegler, Hoff, 8:18.00
100 fly- Coughlin, Komisarz, 57.70
200 fly- Vandenberg, Descenza, 2:07.50
100 breast- Hardy, Kirk, 1:06.70
200 breast- Soni, Jendrick, 2:25.50
100 back- Coughlin, McGregory, 59.99
200 back- Hoezler, Crippen, 2:10.00
200 IM- Hoff, Myers, 2:10.00
400 IM- Hoff, Sandeno, 4:37.00

knelson
May 23rd, 2008, 11:09 PM
I'll play, but I think I'll hold my cards for a while :)

Flurpo
May 24th, 2008, 06:09 PM
Ok, well I have to pretty much agree with your times so I can't play. Although, I think Vanderkay will beat Phelps in the 200Fr. I think both of them will be under 1:45.0. I also think Lochte has a pretty good chance of taking Micheal down in the 400IM. I agree with the time. Phelps has really been struggling with that event.

Warren
May 25th, 2008, 06:27 PM
no one wants to play? come on!

KeithM
May 25th, 2008, 07:47 PM
I will play. But I'm not ready to make picks yet.

I want to see the psyche sheets to see which athletes are entering which events (e.g. you picked Coughlin in the 200 but there's a good chance she won't swim it). There are also a few upcoming meets such as the Omaha Test event and the Charlotte Ultraswim. Every bit of information is helpful.

ehoch
May 25th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Editing is OK -- you can change your picks until the night before trials.

I am not sure even the psych sheet for be conclusive - I know Phelps likes to enter every single event he is qualified for ...

ehoch
June 8th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Here are my Men's picks - there will be some upsets ...

Tie Breaker- 1:02.57

Men
50 free- Weber-Gale, Jones., 21.62
100 free- Weber-Gale, Grevers, 48.12
200 free- Phelps, Vanderkay, 1:45.60
400 free- Vanderkay, Jensen, 3:44.00
1500 free- Jensen, Vendt, 14:46
100 fly- Crocker, Phelps, 50.75
200 fly- Phelps, Madwed, 1:55.20
100 breast- Hansen, Gangloff, 0:59.88
200 breast- Hansen, Shanteau, 2:10.25
100 back- Peirsol, Cromwell, 53.25
200 back- Lochte, Peirsol, 1:54.60
200 IM- Lochte, Phelps, 1:55.75
400 IM- Phelps, Lochte, 4:09.15

ande
June 8th, 2008, 11:40 PM
i'm wondering who will make the
4 x 100 & 4 x 200 free relays

KeithM
June 9th, 2008, 02:21 AM
Tie Breaker- 1:01.95

Men
50 free- Jones, Weber-Gale 21.70
100 free- Lezak, Adrian 48.30
200 free- Phelps, Vanderkaay, 1:44.80
400 free- Vanderkaay, Jensen 3:43.50
1500 free- Vendt, Jensen 14:52.00
100 fly- Phelps, Crocker 50.60
200 fly- Phelps, Tarwater, 1:54.50
100 breast- Hansen, Gangloff, 59.70
200 breast- Hansen, Shanteau, 2:09.20
100 back- Lochte, Bal 53.00
200 back- Peirsol, Lochte 1:53.80
200 IM- Phelps, Lochte 1:55.50
400 IM- Phelps, Lochte, 4:09.00

Women
50 free- Torres, Joyce, 24.50
100 free- Coughlin, Joyce, 53.70
200 free- Hoff, Schmitt 1:56.70
400 free- Hoff, Ziegler, 4:03.50
800 free- Hoff, Ziegler 8:20.00
100 fly- Vollmer, Magnuson 57.50
200 fly- Descenza, Vandenberg 2:06.50
100 breast- Hardy, Kirk, 1:06.00
200 breast- Soni, Jendrick, 2:23.00
100 back- Coughlin, McGregory, 59.00
200 back- Hoezler, Beisel, 2:08.00
200 IM- Hoff, Ohlgren 2:10.50
400 IM- Hoff, Beisel, 4:34.00

KeithM
June 17th, 2008, 08:22 PM
:bump:

Let's see those picks.

justforfun
June 18th, 2008, 12:31 PM
MEN:
50 free - Wildman-Tobriner, Adrian; 21.76
100 free - Phelps, Adrian; 48.32
200 free - Phelps, Vanderkaay; 1:44.99
400 free - Vanderkaay, Vendt; 3:44.54
1500 free - Vendt, Jensen; 14:45.34
100 fly - Phelps, Crocker; 50.88
200 fly - Phelps, Tarwater; 1:54.44
100 back - Piersol, Lochte; 53.03
200 back - Peirsol, Lochte; 1:54.33
100 breast - Gangloff, Hansen; 59.88
200 breast - Shanteau, Hansen; 2:09.22
200 IM - Phelps, Lochte; 1:55.07
400 IM - Phelps, Lochte; 4:08.74

WOMEN:
50 free - Torres, Joyce; 24.55
100 free - Coughlin, Joyce; 53.51
200 free - Hoff, Schmitt; 1:56.77
400 free - Hoff, Ziegler; 4:03.11
800 free - Ziegler, Hoff; 8:17.65
100 fly - Komisarz, Vollmer; 57.89
200 fly - Vandenberg, Descenza; 2:07.12
100 back - Coughlin, McGregory; 59.32
200 back - Hoelzer, McGregory; 2:09.23
100 breast - Kirk, Hardy; 1:06.12
200 breast - Leverenz, Soni; 2:24.34
200 IM - Coughlin, Hoff; 2:09.44
400 IM - Hoff, Leverenz; 4:36.34

Tie breaker - Susan VDL 100 fly - 1:01.88

Just for fun - Relays
Men 4x100 - Phelps, Adrian, Weber-Gale, Lezak, Grevers, Walker
Men 4x200 - Phelps, Vanderkaay, Cramer, Lochte, Keller, Klueh
Men 4x100 medley - "A" Peirsol, Hansen, Crocker, Phelps
"B" Lochte, Gangloff, Grevers, Adrian
Women 4x100 - Coughlin, Joyce, Weir, Hoff, Hardy, Torres
Women 4x200 - Hoff, Schmitt, Coughlin, Vollmer, Smit, Ziegler
Women 4x100 medley - "A" McGregory, Kirk, Komisarz, Coughlin
"B" Hoelzer, Hardy, Vollmer, Joyce

craig68
June 26th, 2008, 02:47 PM
I always stink in the office football and basketball pools. Maybe I'll have some luck with this. Can't wait for Sunday!

Men 50 Jones, Adrian 21.72
Men 100 Free Grevers, Phelps, Lezak, Adrian, Weber-Gale, Walters 48.18
Men 200 Free Phelps, Vanderkaay, Lochte, Keller, Klueh, Madwed 1:44.90
Men 400 Free Vendt, Vanderkaay 3:43.72
Men 1500 Free Vendt, Jensen 14:42.18
Men 100 Back Phelps, Piersol 52.77
Men 200 Back Lochte, Phelps 1:53.88
Men 100 Breast Hansen, Roberts 59.21
Men 200 Breast Hansen, Shanteau 2:10.05
Men 100 Fly Phelps, Crocker 50.82
Men 200 Fly Phelps, Madwed 1:55.18
Men 200 IM Phelps, Lochte 1:55.21
Men 400 IM Phelps, Lochte 4:08.21

Women 50 Joyce, Torres 24.38
Women 100 Free Coughlin,Weir,Joyce,Hoff,Torres,Hardy 53.44
Women 200 Free Coughlin,Hoff,Schmitt,Vollmer,Ziegler,Smit 1:55.42
Women 400 Free Hoff, Ziegler 4:03.88
Women 800 Free Hoff, Ziegler 8:16.21
Women 100 Back Coughlin,McGregory 59.48
Women 200 Back Hoelzer, Beisel 2:09.18
Women 100 Breast Hardy, Soni 1:05.96
Women 200 Breast Soni, Leverenz 2:24.98
Women 100 Fly Komisarz, Descenza 59.18
Women 200 Fly Vandenberg, Descenza 2:06.42
Women 200 IM Myers, Hoff 2:10.11
Women 400 IM Hoff, Beisel 4:34.82

Susan's 100 fly time 1:02.21

Blackbeard's Peg
June 26th, 2008, 05:06 PM
I think all those picking Descenza in the 2fly need to clarify which one.

GO TERPS!!!

talne621
June 27th, 2008, 10:09 AM
50 free- Wildman-Tobriner, Jones 21.78
100 free- Lezak, Jones 48.24
200 free- Phelps, Vanderkaay 1:44.79
400 free- Vanderkaay, Vendt 3:43.89
1,500 free- Jensen, Vendt 14:48.35
100 back- Phelps, Piersol 53.15
200 back- Lochte, Piersol 1:54.76
100 breast- Hansen, Gangloff 59.87
200 breast- Hansen, Shanteau 2:09.76
100 fly- Crocker, Phelps 51.26
200 fly- Phelps, Tarwater 1:54.32
200 IM- Phelps, Lochte 1:57.65
400 IM- Phelps, Lochte 4:08.24

50 free- Torres, Joyce 24.58
100 free- Coughlin, Joyce 53.87
200 free- Hoff, Joyce 1:55.37
400 free- Hoff, Ziegler 4:03.45
800 free- Hoff, Ziegler 8:19.23
100 back- Coughlin, McGregory 59.47
200 back- Hoelzer, Harrigan 2:10.14
100 breast- Hardy, Soni 1:06.46
200 breast- Soni, Leverenz 2:24.58
100 fly- Vollmer, Komisarz 57.98
200 fly- Descanza, Vandenberg 2:07.48
200 IM- Coughlin, Hoff 2:10.15
400 IM- Hoff, Myers 4:35.56

Susan 100 fly- 1:01.32

knelson
June 27th, 2008, 10:39 AM
Susan 100 fly 1:01.45

Men
50 fr Jones, Wildman-Tobriner 21.60
100 fr Lezak, Adrian 48.10
200 fr Phelps, Vanderkaay 1:44.50
400 fr Vanderkaay, Keller 3:42.60
1500 fr Vendt, Jensen 14:45.60
100 ba Peirsol, Phelps 53.00
200 ba Peirsol, Lochte 1:53.80
100 br Hansen, Gangloff 59.60
200 br Hansen, Spann 2:09.80
100 fly Crocker, Phelps 50.50
200 fly Phelps, Tarwater 1:54.80
200 IM Phelps, Lochte 1:56.30
400 IM Phelps, Lochte 4:09.50

Women
50 fr Torres, Joyce 24.30
100 fr Coughlin, Joyce 53.70
200 fr Hoff, Coughlin 1:56.20
400 fr Hoff, Ziegler 4:05.00
800 fr Hoff, Ziegler 8:20.00
100 ba Coughlin, McGregory 59.20
200 ba Hoelzer, Beisel 2:07.80
100 br Hardy, Kirk 1:05.80
200 br Soni, Jendrick 2:23.90
100 fl Komisarz, Vollmer 57.50
200 fl Hersey, Descenza 2:06.50
200 IM Hoff, Coughlin 2:08.90
400 IM Hoff, Kukors 4:35.90

ehoch: have you asked the mods to lock this thread sometime Saturday night?

mazzy
June 28th, 2008, 04:25 AM
Tie Breaker- 1:02.14

Men
*50 free- Wildman-Tobriner, Jones, 21.90
*100 free- Lezak, Weber-Gale, 48.30
*200 free- Phelps, Vanderkay, 1:45.56
*400 free- Vanderkay, Keller, 3:44.55
*1500 free- Jenson, Vendt, 14:48.20
*100 fly- Croker, Phelps, 50.75
*200 fly- Phelps, Tarwater, 1:56.00
*100 breast- Hansen, Gangloff, 59:91
*200 breast- Hansen, Shanteau, 2:10.25
*100 back- Piersol, Lochte, 53.15
*200 back- Lochte, Piersol, 1:54.50
*200 IM- Lochte, Phelps, 1:55.65
*400 IM- Phelps, Lochte, 4:08.75

Women
*50 free- Torres, Joyce, 24.50
*100 free- Coughlin, Joyce, 53.75
*200 free- Hoff, Coughlin, 1:56.50
*400 free- Hoff, Ziegler, 4:06.10
*800 free- Hoff, Ziegler, 8:19.75
*100 fly- Komisarz, Descenza 58.10
*200 fly- Vandenberg, Descenza, 2:07.55
*100 breast- Hardy, Kirk, 1:06.55
*200 breast- Soni, Jendrick, 2:25.15
*100 back- Coughlin, McGregory, 59.75
*200 back- Hoezler, McGregory, 2:09.90
*200 IM- Hoff, Myers, 2:10.15
*400 IM- Hoff, Beisel, 4:35.70

knelson
July 5th, 2008, 01:27 PM
This seems to have dropped off the radar a little, but I just went through and calculated everyone's points. Here's the standings after last night's (Friday) finals:

mazzy 35
Warren 33
talne261 32
KeithM 32
knelson 31
justforfun 30
craig68 29
ehoch 22*

* only submitted men's picks

mazzy
July 5th, 2008, 06:09 PM
Wow, I'm leading... :)

BTW About my prediction 1500m Men Jenson is misspelled, There's no jenson at all, it's Jensen. it's a clear oversight so I wish that the correction will be accepted ;).

knelson
July 5th, 2008, 06:23 PM
There's no Vanderkay either, but lots of people picked him. :)

I also gave the benefit of the doubt to craig68 who picked six people in the 100 and 200 frees. I assumed the first two names listed were his picks for the first two places.

I was amazed how many times people missed out by a tiny margin on the bonus point for the time pick. There were several instances where the pick was off by just .01 more than what was required to get the point.

knelson
July 6th, 2008, 12:40 AM
After tonight's events mazzy still holds the lead with 41 points. KeithM is second, nipping at mazzy's heels, with 40. I'm in third with 39.

KeithM
July 6th, 2008, 06:05 PM
Thanks for taking the time to tabulate. I'm happy as long as I don't finish last. ;)

mazzy
July 6th, 2008, 06:38 PM
Tie-break : Susan 100 fly 1.02.47

Down to Last 2 races


Mazzy 41
50 free- Torres, Joyce, 24.50
1500 free- Jensen, Vendt, 14:48.20
Susan 100 fly 1:02.14

KeithM 40
50 free- Torres, Joyce, 24.50
1500 free- Vendt, Jensen 14:52.00
Susan 100 fly 1:01.95

Knelson 39
50 fr Torres, Joyce 24.30
1500 fr Vendt, Jensen 14:45.60
Susan 100 fly 1:01.45


We've the same swimmers, so only the times can make the difference.

KeithM can only tie Mazzy if he is right about 1500 free time, but he'll lost at tie-break

Knelson can only tie Mazzy if he is right about both 50 & 1500 times, but he'll lost at tie-break.
So look like I've just won a very thight race :woot:

knelson
July 7th, 2008, 12:03 AM
By my count mazzy edged out KeithM with 44 points!

mazzy 44
KeithM 43
Warren 41
knelson 41
talne621 41
justforfun 38
ehoch 27

KeithM
July 7th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Mirko can never be questioned in this forum. His opinions from now on are to be taken ipso facto.

Now let's get a Beijing contest going.

That Guy
July 7th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Now let's get a Beijing contest going.

Olympic Controversy Challenge
Round 1
1 Tibet vs. 16 Sighting to Read Lap Count
8 Judging Scandal vs 9 Open Water Swimming Violence
5 Technical Swimsuits vs 12 Dolphin Kicking in Breaststroke
4 Steroids vs 13 Aging Olympians
3 Air Pollution vs 14 Long Fingernails
6 Human Growth Hormone vs 11 EPO
7 Genetic Doping vs 10 Testosterone
2 Human Rights Issues vs 15 Gas Prices

Iwannafly
July 7th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Olympic Controversy Challenge
Round 1
1 Tibet vs. 16 Sighting to Read Lap Count
8 Judging Scandal vs 9 Open Water Swimming Violence
5 Technical Swimsuits vs 12 Dolphin Kicking in Breaststroke
4 Steroids vs 13 Aging Olympians
3 Air Pollution vs 14 Long Fingernails
6 Human Growth Hormone vs 11 EPO
7 Genetic Doping vs 10 Testosterone
2 Human Rights Issues vs 15 Gas Prices

Now this is funny!