View Full Version : Phelps vs Crocker who's gonna get it?

August 10th, 2008, 06:02 PM
I am rooting for Ian Crocker cause i think he is just a great swimmer and his butterfly stroke is amazing. My friend went to american short course championships and saw crocker do like a 45 on his 100 fly.. Amazing :p

August 10th, 2008, 07:51 PM
Phelps will win it, hands down.

August 10th, 2008, 08:15 PM
Crocker and Hansen haven't looked too sharp lately. I hope that they can come through and put up some great times. But I am afraid that Crocker won't be able to hold off Phelps unless he's ahead by a second at the turn.

August 10th, 2008, 08:26 PM
I have a feeling that Phelps is going to break the WR and beat Crocker. I am so torn because I love Crocker and I want him to win, but man it'd be darn cool if Phelps did get 8 medals. The 100 fly is late though in the program and Phelps may well be gettin' tired by then. HOWEVER, he beat him with the same schedule in 04 and pretty much the same schedule at trials (sans relays).

August 10th, 2008, 08:47 PM
If crocker swims up to his ability, Phelps will have a race on his hands. Though for him to get 8 golds, everything must fall into place, like the relay tonight...which is going to tough enough for the team.

August 10th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Phelps has his hands full in the 200 free. That will be a race. I think the boys will do OK in the 400 free relay. They have the fortitude for it.
I hope Ian does well. He will be pretty fresh.

August 10th, 2008, 09:15 PM
Phelps.......nuff said!!!!

Paul Smith
August 10th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Phelps pushed a 51.6 wearing a workout suit the week before the Games started at training camp....

August 10th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Phelps goes 49 point

August 11th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Phelps has the hot hand.

August 11th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Why is everyone counting crocker out? His last couple big races he has made mistakes. If he can just finish he should win. Crocker wins the 95 fly almost every time. He just needs to man up and not screw up his finish this time.

August 11th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Why is everyone counting crocker out?

Because of this:

Crocker wins the 95 fly almost every time.

I'm not counting Crocker out, but I'd put my money on Phelps.

August 11th, 2008, 03:52 PM
The reason Crocker is being counted out is that he hasn't swum a good race of any kind in a while. He DQ'd (false start) his 100 free at Trials. His 100 fly was clearly subpar. His 100 fly at trials was more like a 80 fly. Crocker false started a relays at Worlds.

And Phelps is on fire, swimming better than anyone in the world right now. Phelps has great speed - ala his 100 free last night. So I think it is a good bet that Phelps takes Crocker with another world record.

The only advantage Crocker has is that he will be fresh. But Phelps doesn't seem to get tired much. Crocker may be so fresh that he is stale. Crocker has great walls but I don't think they are any better than Phelps'.

August 11th, 2008, 03:55 PM
I vote for Phelps. My opinion is that Phelps is incredibly strong - physically, of course, but especially mentally. I think Crocker is incredibly fast and very talented, but he's a little more hit-and-miss with his performances.

August 11th, 2008, 04:07 PM
I hope crocker wins because he's my friend
I hope phelps wins because he could make history by winning
8 golds at the 08/08/08 Olympics

Who ever wins has to earn it
Last year phelps went 48.4 in the 100 fr and 50.7 in the 100 fly
This year phelps went 47.5 in the 100 free so if he has a proportional drop in the 100 fly he could be 49.8ish / under 50

Haven't heard how crocker trained at Olympic Training camps

Crocker isn't going to back half phelps, he may be able to hold him off
to win crocker has to get out in 22 high 23 low
to break 50 phelps has to be out in 23.6, 7 or 8

Crocker will be fresh
Phelps will have many prior swims

Can't wait to see how it plays out

Good luck to both

August 11th, 2008, 05:04 PM
Same here But I am on Crockers side even the phelps gettin the medals will be cool

August 11th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Because of this:

I'm not counting Crocker out, but I'd put my money on Phelps.

I'm just saying, if crocker can finish like he did in 2005 worlds then he should take it. he was one bad stroke from winning last year! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BXDYYfbXhs&feature=related
crockers finish was god awful.

Jazz Hands
August 11th, 2008, 05:14 PM

August 11th, 2008, 05:18 PM
I think they are both lucky Spitz is back here in the US. :cool:

August 11th, 2008, 06:03 PM
this isnt gonna be a two man race.. cavic and bousquet will be fast as well