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JRidge
April 15th, 2003, 05:23 PM
According to a thread for Nationals on the USMS site they're estimating only about 2000 or less in Tempe.

Apparently the number you get when you register online has no correlation to the number of entries received.

ratthedog
April 16th, 2003, 08:31 AM
That's distuirbing. It would be nice to find out why such low attendance and try to change that. I would prefer to swim against a lot of people and even place lower, than swim the same 20 people in each event. What is our IM count? Hopefully we will be well represented and rowdy.

mattson
April 16th, 2003, 03:53 PM
Hey Craig, I think you need some context before you start complaining about low attendance. (Especially with the fight for hotels and airline difficulties.)

I found this table in a thread where Michael Moore listed attendance for past Short Course Nationals:

2002 - Honolulu - 1101
2001 - Santa Clara - 1850
2000 - Indianapolis - 1390 (Indianapolis took over after another venue could not make it).
1999 - Santa Clara 2060
1998 - Indianapolis 1738
1997 - Federal Way 1438
1996 - Cupertino - 2048
1995 - Ft Lauderdale 1992
1994 - Tempe - 1912
1993 - Santa Clara 2055
1992 - Ft Lauderdale - 1992

I found this table in a thread where Laura Kessler listed attendance for past Long Course Nationals:

2002 - Cleveland - 1020 ??
2001 - Seattle - 959
1999 - Minneapolis - 949
1998 - Ft. Lauderdale - 922
1997 - Orlando - 881
1996 - Ann Arbor - 1176
1995 - Gresham (OR) - 1010
1994 - Buffalo - 716
1993 - Minneapolis - 1085

jim clemmons
April 16th, 2003, 04:00 PM
1380 in Baltimore (LCM) 2000. Meet went to 9:00 or 10:00pm some nights. And the 6th event was dropped.

urban
April 16th, 2003, 04:19 PM
FATE has a way of working things out. I'm sure there will be plenty of good competition to push us all...however the numbers are...big or small.

Its simple....just get ready to rock.

U-R-B-A-N

:D :p :rolleyes: :) :o :

Bill Volckening
April 17th, 2003, 01:29 AM
correction: 1992 Short Course Nationals were held in Chapel Hill, North Carolina -- not Ft. Lauderdale. There were 1502 participants in Chapel Hill, and I was one of them. In fact, it was my first USMS Nationals. Now, I am now approaching my 20th. Having been to a majority of them in the last 11 years, I can say without question that I prefer the meets with fewer participants. It's nice to be able to get away from the pool and enjoy the place you're visiting. Last year's meet in Hawaii was a perfect example.

:) Bill

Paul Smith
April 17th, 2003, 05:06 PM
Trust me, this will be one of the fastest groups of swimmers we've ever seen at a USMS nationals. I know of several ex-Olypians, various former USS standouts and lots of old college studs showing up. It's going to be scary fast and a pretty large turnout as well.

ratthedog
April 17th, 2003, 09:40 PM
OK, I stand corrected. Someone said >3K attendees last week, and now it's down to under 2K. Sounded much lighter than before. The bottom line is that I want to swim fast, but I don't want to place high because there aren't many in my age group. I also want to see many people enjoy USMS as much as I do.
I'm done on this topic. We'll just have to wait and see.