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daveindc
October 24th, 2008, 02:30 PM
Haha :)

elise526
October 24th, 2008, 02:32 PM
Right now, about a 75.

imspoiled
October 24th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Could swim, would swim, or want to swim?

I could swim a 100 (if absolutely necessary), only want to swim 50 or less, and would do everything possible to get out of swimming the 100.

geochuck
October 24th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Today????:drown::drown::drown:

thewookiee
October 24th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Done a 1000 straight before....used to love the 200....now I don't really care to swim it at all.

slknight
October 24th, 2008, 02:55 PM
Today? Probably a 200, and it would definitely not be pretty.

In college, however, I went a 3000 LCM butterfly for time.

ced357
October 24th, 2008, 02:56 PM
back in college I used to swim 3x 600 fly once a week. Now I could muster 200 yards and then run to the bathroom.

FlyQueen
October 24th, 2008, 03:10 PM
I'm with ImSpoiled - big differences in what I could swim, would want to swim and will swim. I am sure if I had to I could find some sort of slow setting on my fly and complete several hundred yards. I swim the 100 in meets and die like a dog but that has to do with racing. I've also swim 200s in meets a couple of times - no need to ever do that again.

Michelina
October 24th, 2008, 03:26 PM
Right now I COULD swim a 100 Fly.. years ago, I could do the 200... but no more. Now, would I actually LIKE to swim a 100 Fly??? That's a whole other story. I will leave that to FlyGirl!

daveindc
October 24th, 2008, 03:32 PM
Today? Probably a 200, and it would definitely not be pretty.

In college, however, I went a 3000 LCM butterfly for time.

Wow, is that legal? It might fall under torture lol.

RobbieD
October 24th, 2008, 03:38 PM
I did a 200 fly when I was a kid one time... that's it, never again.

I seem to only have one speed with Butterfly so anything past a 100 is a no go for me. This past weekend I did the 100 and 50 fly at the UCLA SCM meet. My 50 fly was the same as my split time on the first 50 of my 100. The second 50... not quite as good, but I'm working on it!

Jeff Commings
October 24th, 2008, 03:45 PM
Don't ask Dennis Baker this question.

swimshark
October 24th, 2008, 04:18 PM
Dennis' answer is off the chart.

I've done the 200 fly in a meet and I would do it again if I wanted to. I've done as much as a 600 fly in practice.

knelson
October 24th, 2008, 04:29 PM
I know I could do a 400. Anything longer might get dicey!

meldyck
October 24th, 2008, 05:18 PM
A few years ago I did the 1000 FR as a fly swim at the CO state SCY championship meet. My goal was to break 20 min and I hit about 18.

The next year Erica Leetmae swim the 1650 as a fly event. Her fly time was just slightly slower than my freestyle 1650 at the same meet.

Allen Stark
October 24th, 2008, 06:11 PM
I can swim VERY slow fly pretty much indefinitely(but it is really ugly.My reasonable looking fly is only about 100.)I can swim butterfrog much faster than my ugly stroke and do in indefinitely also(indefinitely means until I get bored,maybe 1500 if extremely motivated.)

geochuck
October 24th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Is there any reason to swim over 200 fly or are people who do swim over 200 masiquist???

Thrashing Slug
October 24th, 2008, 06:43 PM
I put 50, but it wouldn't be much of a race. I just started swimming fly a few months ago, and have just gotten to the point where I can swim it decently with fins. Just barely at the point where I actually do the last 100 of our 400 Reverse IM warmup, instead of making it a 300.

The most I've tried so far without fins is a 50, and the last 10 or 15 yards were pretty ugly.

hofffam
October 24th, 2008, 06:49 PM
I have done a legal 200 fly in practice. But I think I'd be faster with breaststroke. I would never race a 200 fly though. I haven't raced a 100 fly in four years though I regularly race 50s.

There is a chance that I'd take advantage of the Masters rule that allows breaststroke kick....

stillwater
October 24th, 2008, 07:07 PM
masiquist

Funk and Waggles:

French- an aborgine who is searching for water.

geochuck
October 24th, 2008, 07:49 PM
This thread should be changed from What's the longest butterfly race you could swim?

It should have read What's the longest butterfly race you should swim?

anita
October 24th, 2008, 08:02 PM
There is a chance that I'd take advantage of the Masters rule that allows breaststroke kick....

There is a rule like that? Nah, I wouldn't do that, but I do have a question.
Is it illegal to do more than one kick between arm strokes? That is currently the only way I can finish more than a 50 at the moment.
I did attempt a 400 IM this week, and I finished it (yay!), but only with the extra kicks.
:cry:

RobbieD
October 24th, 2008, 08:30 PM
I saw a dude frog kicking during a 100 fly this weekend... I've never seen that in my life. I'm not sure I could even do that correctly, it seems like it would suck all the power out of the stroke.

james lucas
October 24th, 2008, 08:37 PM
I can't even watch a whole 200 fly.

hofffam
October 24th, 2008, 10:22 PM
There is a rule like that? Nah, I wouldn't do that, but I do have a question. Is it illegal to do more than one kick between arm strokes? That is currently the only way I can finish more than a 50 at the moment.
I did attempt a 400 IM this week, and I finished it (yay!), but only with the extra kicks.
:cry:


Straight from the USMS Rule book:

101.3.3 Kick—All up and down movements of the legs and feet must be simultaneous. The position of the legs or the feet need not be on the same level, but they shall not alternate in relation to each other. The breaststroke or whip kick may be used exclusively or interchangeably with the dolphin kick while doing the butterfly stroke at any time during the race. Only one breaststroke or whip kick is permitted per arm pull, except that a single breaststroke or whip kick is permitted prior to the turn and the finish without an arm pull. After the start and after each turn, a single breaststroke or whip kick is permitted prior to the first arm pull. A scissors kicking movement is not permitted.

knelson
October 25th, 2008, 12:40 AM
Is it illegal to do more than one kick between arm strokes?

Not if it's a dolphin kick. I'm pretty sure you could dolphin kick an entire fly race without ever taking a single arm pull and be legal (as long as you surfaced before the 15m mark off each wall).

Rykno
October 25th, 2008, 03:01 AM
I could probably only stay legal for about 200. in practice I have a hard time staying legal over 75m :whiteflag:

That Guy
October 25th, 2008, 09:28 AM
I answered 400m since that's closest to my actual answer of 500 yards. I've done 500 fly in practice, though it wasn't pretty. If I can get to where I can swim 500 fly without feeling embarassed, I'll swim it in a meet. I suppose 400 SCM fly is a possibility as well. 400 LCM fly is not happening!:afraid:

Ripple
October 25th, 2008, 10:28 AM
I've always been intrigued by those people who do extreme long distance butterfly, like Vicky Keith. (Not that I'm ever planning to try something like that, I'm just amazed that it can be done!) Has anyone ever seen someone doing that, or know of an online video clip? Is the stroke done somewhat differently to be able to last so long?
There used to be an online club called the Butternuts, for people who had done at least 500 continuous meters of 'fly. I tried to find it yesterday and just got a whole bunch of horticultural sites about walnut trees.

haroldbuck
October 25th, 2008, 10:58 AM
The poll is flawed since it doesn't list 12m as an option! :banana:

GGS5T
October 25th, 2008, 11:03 AM
A friend of mine, Julie Bradshaw, did a 22 mile swim on fly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2175526.stm

geochuck
October 25th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Here is a little something about butterfly and all strokes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQ8iEGd2jk&eurl=http://blog.swimator.com/2008/09/swimming-master-of-all-excercises.html

anita
October 25th, 2008, 12:49 PM
A fellow teammate completed a 1500m fly at one of our meets. Rec'd a standing ovation.
He was my secret crush from there on out. :smooch:

blainesapprentice
October 25th, 2008, 01:11 PM
I feel like right now I could do an 800m fly...give me a few more weeks back in the water and the 1500m might be a possibility as well..I've only been back in for about 6 consecutive weeks (swimming 2 days a week ha)

CreamPuff
October 25th, 2008, 03:48 PM
If the question read, "What's the longest butterfly swim I could race," my answer to date would be the 100 yards. I'm going to try and race the 200 for the first time ever next month. Typically I loaf part to most of the 200.

aquaFeisty
October 25th, 2008, 04:40 PM
Following Creampuff's logic, I picked 50m. Anything longer than that, and my stroke isn't really racing, it's more 'mellow mode' (I have completed up to a 200 true fly).

As for how long I could swim fly... using USMS rules and a breaststroke kick, however long my knees hold.

Mary1912
October 25th, 2008, 05:39 PM
Used to be a pretty good flyer when I was a kid. Right now I'm not in good enough shape to go more than a 25M or so.

hofffam
October 25th, 2008, 06:03 PM
Anything over 75 yards becomes "survival fly" for me.

That Guy
October 25th, 2008, 08:33 PM
I'm going to try and race the 200 for the first time ever next month.

Go CreamPuff Go!!!

:cheerleader:

Thrashing Slug
October 25th, 2008, 09:28 PM
I could probably only stay legal for about 200. in practice I have a hard time staying legal over 75m :whiteflag:

What do you mean by "stay legal"?

pwolf66
October 27th, 2008, 08:10 AM
Can I change my vote to 110 yards? After yesterday's 100 Fly, I'm not sure I could have gone past that. :doh:

ViveBene
October 27th, 2008, 09:23 AM
I've always been intrigued by those people who do extreme long distance butterfly, like Vicky Keith. (Not that I'm ever planning to try something like that, I'm just amazed that it can be done!) Has anyone ever seen someone doing that, or know of an online video clip? Is the stroke done somewhat differently to be able to last so long?
There used to be an online club called the Butternuts, for people who had done at least 500 continuous meters of 'fly. I tried to find it yesterday and just got a whole bunch of horticultural sites about walnut trees.

A Chicago swimmer typically does the 5k Big Shoulders swim all butterfly. I'll see if I can find his Web site, then you can ask him many questions!

Here's his author's bio on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Infolocus-Manifesto-Thomas-Charles-Boettcher/dp/192980900X

Regards, VB

james lucas
October 27th, 2008, 11:59 AM
Here's a meet for people who like long fly:

http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~darosa/

Read, especially, the history:

http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~darosa/History.pdf

Best time in the 1650 fly at this meet seems to be: 20:11.78