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swimlong
November 24th, 2008, 12:56 AM
Maybe someone can help me out - I swim in the morning then rush to work. Practice ends about 30 minutes before I begin work, so "rush" is the operative word.

Here's my problem: despite feeling great from the swimming induced endorphin high when I get to work, I look terrible. I still have racoon eyes from my goggles. http://www.usms.org/forums/images/smilies/cane.gifI look a million years old. Anyone know any tricks, creams, or whatever to combat this?

I have tried loosening my goggles, and have switched brands, but ulitmately these alternatives resulted in leaky goggles, and hence, pink eyes. Being a high school teacher, looking old is preferable to looking stoned, but still...

EllenT
November 24th, 2008, 10:20 AM
I used to have the same problem, but switched goggles. I use the TYR socket rocket goggles now. They took a bit to get used to, but now I prefer them. They have little padding and are set into the eye socket much more that other goggles that have a lot of padding around the eye piece. I still get some markings on my face around my eyes if I have them on tight, but it's a lot less than I used to get with my old goggles. I'm old enough and don't want my goggles making me look even older!:cane:

craiglll@yahoo.com
November 24th, 2008, 10:25 AM
Which are better raccoon eyes or Bette Davis eyes?

Leonard Jansen
November 24th, 2008, 11:43 AM
Fred (the raccoon in my avatar and who lives in our north woods) says: "Hey! What's wrong with raccoon eyes?"

I seem to recall reading that Joan Collins used to wipe under her eyes with witchhazel to bring down puffiness, but perhaps I am hallucinating that memory.

-LBJ

Redbird Alum
November 24th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Why hide it... tell 'em what you were up to! If they're not impressed, who cares, but some just might find it cool that their teacher swims/competes!

Our kids need more positive role models! Keep up the good work!

orca1946
November 24th, 2008, 01:33 PM
I say invite them to morning workout & see the improved relationship it brings! The only help I found is a mask, but then you trade eyes for a bowl ring! Not a great improvment!!

swim4me
November 24th, 2008, 05:44 PM
I also swim in the morning, shower at the pool, then finish hair and make-up in gym locker room at work (gives hair a littler longer to dry before blasting with blow dryer). I have found that Garnier Anti-puff Eye Roller works well, I apply it (along with ear drops and moisterizer) while driving to work.:fish2:

swim25
November 25th, 2008, 01:16 AM
I embrace the raccoon eyes, I don't get them very often but would like too. It allows me a reason to brag about my swimming!

Mary1912
November 25th, 2008, 05:16 PM
I have raccoon eyes too. I look kinda weird for a few hours afterward but I'm fine with it.

Donna
November 26th, 2008, 03:30 PM
I go right to work after workout so I started using the Tyr Rocket Sockets in practice but can't dive in with them. They always fall off on me.

If I plan to do any starts I have an extra pair of Women's Vanquisher goggles that I use sparingly since they leave the rings around my eyes.

Grappledunk
November 26th, 2008, 04:16 PM
I had the same problem when I swam before work, only I usually had a cap line to add to the general impression of drowned rat.

I used a tinted moisturizer, which toned things down a bit and made it less obvious.

RM1961
January 4th, 2009, 09:36 PM
I have what appears to be permanent raccoon eyes from wearing Kaiman goggles (junior) this past summer and awful under eye bags. I'm 47, female.

Quite worried as I feel I have aged significantly in the last 4 months due to this and wondering if anyone has heard about permanent damage to the under eye skin and eye bags/discoloration due to long term use of goggles, especially those that use suction.

nhc
January 5th, 2009, 09:39 AM
especially those that use suction.

Are there goggles that don't use suction?

swimcat
January 5th, 2009, 09:43 AM
I used to have the same problem, but switched goggles. I use the TYR socket rocket goggles now. They took a bit to get used to, but now I prefer them. They have little padding and are set into the eye socket much more that other goggles that have a lot of padding around the eye piece. I still get some markings on my face around my eyes if I have them on tight, but it's a lot less than I used to get with my old goggles. I'm old enough and don't want my goggles making me look even older!:cane:
i wear the socket rockets and find they actually pull up the eye corners giving the eyes a mini lift. :)

dukey
January 5th, 2009, 01:27 PM
Are there goggles that don't use suction?

Yes some of the more expensive Barracuda goggles claim not to use suction. I brought a pair and hated them so sent them back. I use the Speedo Speedsocket and love them. No marks left.

srcoyote
January 5th, 2009, 02:07 PM
Many use two sets of goggles: one with a tight strap for starting at meets and another with a strap with more slack for long workouts. I use the Swedish goggles and don't get raccoon eyes.

Now what to do about the cloud of chlorine aroma that follows me in my workplace eliciting comments. . .

The witch hazel sounds like a good suggestion for reducing swelling, redness and puffiness. You might have to explain why you keep a jar of Tuck's medicated pads handy, though.:cane:

RM1961
January 5th, 2009, 03:44 PM
So am I crazy in thinking swim goggles gave me dark circles, bags and wrinkles I didn't have 6 months ago? Has anyone seen this in my age group (late 40's)?

aquajock
January 5th, 2009, 08:47 PM
I, too, went nuts with this problem and searched for years for a solution and often purposely avoided swimming before important meetings. I suggest the Lane 4 Selene Goggle. I get little to no marks at all! I had to contact a manager from the company to find them again since the company I usually buy from (SwimOutlet) stopped selling them, but you can buy them from Lane 4 which I do regularly.

lapswimmr
January 5th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Barracuda Standards you will love them or hate them. I love mine. No circles comfortable. 34 dollars.

See the review on Beginner Triathlete I wrote:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/gear/gear.asp?pid=786

By the way Beginner Tri is a great site with all kinds of info about swimming/bikeing/running

See some of the comments there in the forums about "swimmers" vs "tri swimmers" You will have to look around. But we "swimmers" are a lot better at the swim then a lot of the runners /bikers. Many people who run/bike well have trouble with the swim. I wonder when a swim- bike-run event will be in the olympics. It should be as well as open water swimming which there doing.

RM1961
January 7th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Has anyone heard of permanent skin changes from the long term use of swim goggles (over 20 years), e.g. eyebags, wrinkles, dark circles, eye hollows?

This is what I'm experiencing and I'm quite distressed about it.

Mary1912
January 7th, 2009, 06:55 PM
Has anyone heard of permanent skin changes from the long term use of swim goggles (over 20 years), e.g. eyebags, wrinkles, dark circles, eye hollows?

This is what I'm experiencing and I'm quite distressed about it.

I haven't heard about this but are you sure it's the goggles and not just regular aging?

RM1961
January 8th, 2009, 10:59 AM
Well, I've noticed a dramatic change in the skin around my eye area in the last 5 months. I have photos from before I wore these goggles (Aquasphere Kaiman) and after and it seems that the aging process would be more gradual. Granted I am 47 but I've always looked young and I can't believe how different I look since June. I've even stopped swimming because of it. I don't want to make it worse.

sydned
January 8th, 2009, 04:18 PM
I had a massive problem with this a few years ago. It was getting so bad that I was getting constant water retention in my eyelids that my doctor thought might be permanent.
I was freaking out about it because it looked terrible, and I certainly didn't want permanent rings/bubbles/general yuckiness. My doctor was talking about how it would potentially require plastic surgery at one point, if it kept almost drooping. YUCK!!
I think part of it was having a relatively thin face, with very little cushion for the goggles. I have also been someone who preferred my goggles really super tight.

My solution, with has worked for the most part, was to start using a Seal XP open water mask. It doesn't sit in the eye socket and alleviates the pressure I used to get from tight goggles.
No puffiness around the eyes. No drooping. Less dark circles, and almost no lines except for the line across my forehead from the mask, and that goes away after a little while.

I know they look goofy, but since I started using it, several of my teammates have also gotten them and are liking them too.

Good luck!

nhc
January 9th, 2009, 12:00 AM
I've even stopped swimming because of it. I don't want to make it worse.

Instead of stopping swimming, why not just stopping using goggles? Swim without goggles is not that bad. I agree swim masks are more comfortable (though not for competition ;)).

RM1961
January 9th, 2009, 09:09 AM
thanks for your reply sydned....

Do you mind telling me did you go to your doctor with this problem and how long did it take to resolve? Do you mind me asking how old you are? Male or female?

The MD actually advised you that you may need plastic surgery? Where was the droopiness? Did the MD attribute this to the use of goggles?

I bought a ladies AquaSphere Seal mask in September and wore it a few times but I stopped swimming in mid-September. The last day I wore the Kaiman goggles was probably the last week of August. I also have a small, thin face...after 4 months of no goggles and no swimming, I see no improvement. Very worried not to mention quite depressed.

I will swim again, perhaps without goggles or with the mask but to be honest, I've been so depressed about this that the pool is the last place I want to be.

sydned
January 9th, 2009, 02:23 PM
I don't mind you asking my age at all. I'm 37, and a woman.
It took me a while to lose the puffiness. It took a while for it to come, so it made sense that it took a while to have it go away. The Seal Mask that I use is the Seal XP, which is not specifically designed for women, but in the small size, can fit a small face.

When I spoke to my doctor, he really did feel that it could be a permanent water retention issue related to how tight the goggles were. He said if I didn't change the goggles, he could see how plastic surgery could be a later option. In terms of the puffiness and drooping, it was happening in my upper eyelid. There were actually two round spots near that puffed out all the time, almost like I had a jellybean under my eyelid, except not that big. The skin was then getting pulled down by the goggles. I am making it sound like I looked like a freak, which was not the case, but I worried it would get worse and worse.
Since switching goggles several years ago, the puffiness and droop are completely gone, and my skin seems to have bounced back. I feel like a dork in the ugly goggles, but since I swim mostly open water anyway, I don't look hugely out of place.

I couldn't imagine keeping myself out of the pool.
I was absolutely determined to find a way to stay in there.

slug
March 16th, 2009, 02:17 AM
I have a similar problem with my eyes (although the marks left are lighter strangely, not darker) and am thinking of buying the Speedo Biofuse Rift Training Goggles to see if they help. Does anyone have any experience of these goggles helping (or at least, not adding to) the permanent marks left around the eyes? Thanks.

Linky
June 30th, 2016, 06:41 PM
I had the same issue and it turned out that I had what is called pitting edema. It was caused by autoimmune antibodies (hashimotos disease). Get a blood test for APO thyroid antibodies (this is the only test that works TSH test is worthless). No I have medication and the problem has completely resolved and my vision is a lot better too.