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mpmartin
February 10th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Hi,

I see that there is a big price difference between the Blue Seventy Nero comp and the PointZero 3. Is it really worth $100.00 more for the nero comp?

ande
February 10th, 2009, 02:50 PM
the Nero Comp has a better zipper and a little less fabric around the zipper and zipper bed

the point Zero 3 has
a pull string on the zipper,
a zipper hood
a big clunky zipper,
think the ankles have velcro ties but can flare when undone for speedy transitions
the point zero 3+ is for triathletes to wear in the swim with their triathlon gear under

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Hi,

I see that there is a big price difference between the Blue Seventy Nero comp and the PointZero 3. Is it really worth $100.00 more for the nero comp?

mpmartin
February 10th, 2009, 03:07 PM
I wish these suits were more affordable, $320.00 is out of my price range. Is there a less expensive alternative?

ande
February 10th, 2009, 03:54 PM
The FS PRO Hineck (http://tinyurl.com/speedofspro) is a very good suit

Speedo FS Pro Legskin (http://tinyurl.com/fsprolegs) is excellent too

ande



I wish these suits were more affordable,
$320.00 is out of my price range.
Is there a less expensive alternative?

gigi
February 10th, 2009, 04:24 PM
I don't have the answer to your question but I am going to throw in and ask if anyone has had any experience with the agon swim suits. They sell a grab-bag skin suit at a pretty reasonable price. I don't mind wearing an ugly, unflattering suit if it's a decent suit and a good deal. But if the suit's a piece of crap, I'll save my money.

ANy experience with the agonswim suit?

ourswimmer
February 10th, 2009, 04:34 PM
Is there a less expensive alternative?

The FSPros are available through swimoutlet.com and probably also through other vendors for far less than a B70.

What is your personal price-to-value ratio? Depending on how many generations back you are willing to go for a racing suit, you can get a brand-new, never-used one from an online vendor or on eBay for as little as $50. Lots of FS1s available that way, for instance.

Check the suit vendor at your next meet, assuming your meet has a suit vendor. They, too, are frequently there to unload discontinued merchandise at a deep discount.

And finally, do not write off your local brick-and-mortar swim shop. I have bought a couple of special swim and triathlon racing suits for $20 from closeout bins.

the17thman
February 10th, 2009, 05:20 PM
I don't have the answer to your question but I am going to throw in and ask if anyone has had any experience with the agon swim suits. They sell a grab-bag skin suit at a pretty reasonable price. I don't mind wearing an ugly, unflattering suit if it's a decent suit and a good deal. But if the suit's a piece of crap, I'll save my money.

ANy experience with the agonswim suit?

Our Master's team has used Agon in the past for team suits and as with all swim suit companies I've had mixed results. If you are looking for just a practice suit then you can't go wrong. I think they tend to stretch out a bit too soon but I also think that about Nike swim suits. But if the price is right grab em! The best deals though is to go to swim outlet dot com and try fo find a polyester swim suit. The poly suits cost more up front but in the long run are cheaper.

orca1946
February 10th, 2009, 07:51 PM
I agree, poly last a lot longer & stays in shape.

Midas
February 10th, 2009, 11:34 PM
Hi,

I see that there is a big price difference between the Blue Seventy Nero comp and the PointZero 3. Is it really worth $100.00 more for the nero comp?

I own a PointZero3 and swim very fast in it. Contrary to what Ande says it does not have flare legs or ankles with velcro (though after multiple swims the ankles are verly slightly loose). There is a drawstring on the zipper (to allow you to zip/unzip the suit on your own) but I just cut it off so no problems there. I'm not sure if the "zipper hood" creates more drag than the "unhooded" zipper on the Neros (which just flops around, I guess). Yes, they were made for triathlons (and thus for something to be worn under them) but triathalon clothes are quite tight fitting. I couldn't fit much more than another tech suit on under my pointzero3 (something I hear folks are doing these days...) The biggest issue is sizing. I'm 6'0" and 170 and have to wear the second smallest (male) suit for a tight fit. That means the proportions are not ideal...

Try it on in a store before you buy it. So long as the "fit" works for you, I suspect you will be very pleased with the pointZero3 if you decide to go that route.

geochuck
February 11th, 2009, 03:43 AM
To swim fast in a fast swim suit you must be a fast swimmer...

If you are a slow swimmer in a fast suit, you will still be a slow swimmer...

If you are a slow swimmer in a fast suit, you may be faster but not much faster...

mpmartin
February 11th, 2009, 02:57 PM
But the real question is how do you go from slow swimmer to fast swimmer?

quicksilver
February 11th, 2009, 03:43 PM
But the real question is how do you go from slow swimmer to fast swimmer?


Read Ande's swimming tips and lay off the Cheetos.

ande
February 11th, 2009, 03:48 PM
swim faster faster (http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4229)
read it & apply the ideas


But the real question is how do you go from slow swimmer to fast swimmer?

swimcat
February 12th, 2009, 10:11 AM
To swim fast in a fast swim suit you must be a fast swimmer...

If you are a slow swimmer in a fast suit, you will still be a slow swimmer...

If you are a slow swimmer in a fast suit, you may be faster but not much faster...

i totally agree with your statement. i have often said as an experiment, i would like to wear a lzr just once to see. but i know , it wouldn't make a difference for me. for the fast swimmers yes, it all comes down to training and technique, technique, technique

mpmartin
February 12th, 2009, 10:15 AM
So swimcat which suit do you race in?

swimcat
February 15th, 2009, 08:50 AM
So swimcat which suit do you race in?
the cat swims in an fspro kneeskin for IM and br. events. did try a tracer lite. but the point being you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear as my grandfather used to say. yesterday i swam in the pro after not competing for 8 months.(have been in pt).
i swam 100 IM , 50 fr and 100 br.( let me make a disclaimer here, i am not a sprinter.) i had a horrendous meet. i missed turns. looked like i was asleep in the 100 br ( the time i did for breaststroke was a longcourse time i did ):) but had on a great suit. which i wore at ynats last year and one other time.
i believe it is all preparation. in my case, i have to lift weights to swim IM or br. and i haven't been able to do my normal routine for the last 6 months. i could have had a propeller attached to me and it wouldn't have mattered.

mpmartin
February 15th, 2009, 10:57 AM
What sort of weight routine do you do when you do weights?

Charge
February 15th, 2009, 06:50 PM
FS II $99
http://www.all-americanaquatics.com/catalog/b-font-color-red-sale-b-font-color-black-speedo-fsii-male-hi-neck-bodyskin.html