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ande
February 16th, 2009, 03:40 PM
bet a bunch of HS nat recs are gonna fall

here's the list of HS Records (http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/results/records/USA_High_School_Records.pdf)

Matt Thompson Broke the 200 IM Nat Rec

race (http://www.floswimming.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234635/146160)


interview (http://www.floswimming.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234635/146273-throwing-hammer-down-thompson-sets-national-record)

know of anymore?

2009 texas district meets (http://www.tisca.org/2009UILMeets/2009-DistrictRegionalState-results_ENTRY_PAGE.htm)

thewookiee
February 16th, 2009, 04:13 PM
They already have started...Thompson, a kid from Georgia in the 500. The Baylor School and Caramel girls both broke relay records over the weekend.

hofffam
February 17th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Texas state championships less than two weeks away. Psych sheets available for both 4A and 5A at www.tisca.org.

The times are very fast this year - even without Mary Beck (at Cal already) and Jimmy Fiegen. Thompson's IM was incredible. Samantha Tucker's 1:45 200 free was also very good. Gray Umbach is one of the rising stars in Texas and he is a freshman now. Watch him for years to come. Gray broke Phelp's 13-14 age group record in the 200IM. Probably skipped IM this year because of Thompson.

A 4A freshman from Alamo Heights (F. LeMaistre) swam a 1:55 IM at Regionals. Surely related to the Masters swimmer from San Antonio?

ande
February 17th, 2009, 12:54 PM
Texas State championships should be great
tucker thompson & umbach are impressive
freshman matt ellis went 50.0 100 fl

watch shayne flemming from CA, he broke the 15/16 50 LCM free record in 22.7 this summer

Ian is Fred's son, Fred swam for UT in the early 70's
Fred is 6'4"ish his wife is 5'9"
I've never met Ian, but he's hitting his stride this year.
he went 52.4 100 bk & 47.2 100 free relay lead off
only rested 2 days for regions

There's a 14 year old 8th grader Cannon Clifton to watch next year
he's already been 21.0, 46.0, & 1:42
both parents were aggie swimmers
mom coaches him


Texas state championships less than two weeks away. Psych sheets available for both 4A and 5A at www.tisca.org.

The times are very fast this year - even without Mary Beck (at Cal already) and Jimmy Fiegen.
Thompson's IM was incredible.
Samantha Tucker's 1:45 200 free was also very good.
Gray Umbach is one of the rising stars in Texas and he is a freshman now. Watch him for years to come. Gray broke Phelp's 13-14 age group record in the 200IM. Probably skipped IM this year because of Thompson.

A 4A freshman from Alamo Heights (F. LeMaistre) swam a 1:55 IM at Regionals. Surely related to the Masters swimmer from San Antonio?

hofffam
February 17th, 2009, 02:41 PM
Texas State championships should be great
tucker thompson & umbach are impressive
freshman matt ellis went 50.0 100 fl

watch shayne flemming from CA, he broke the 15/16 50 LCM free record in 22.7 this summer

Ian is Fred's son, Fred swam for UT in the early 70's
Fred is 6'4"ish his wife is 5'9"
I've never met Ian, but he's hitting his stride this year.
he went 52.4 100 bk & 47.2 100 free relay lead off
only rested 2 days for regions

There's a 14 year old 8th grader Cannon Clifton to watch next year
he's already been 21.0, 46.0, & 1:42
both parents were aggie swimmers
mom coaches him

I watched Ian's swim in San Antonio. He got after it from the start and blew away his very good 2:00 prelim swim. Big kid, like his dad. He has the 1st seed going into state with two returning medalists in the IM.

I watch 4A more closely than 5A. 5A is fearsomely fast. It is brutal just to advance to state.

What city does Clifton swim in? Those are outstanding freshman times. I don't think Fiegen was that fast as a freshman.

ande
February 18th, 2009, 04:00 PM
cannon clifton is in now the 8th grade not 9th
think he's from houston he'll probably go faster next year
he's dropping time like crazy


I watched Ian's swim in San Antonio. He got after it from the start and blew away his very good 2:00 prelim swim. Big kid, like his dad. He has the 1st seed going into state with two returning medalists in the IM.

I watch 4A more closely than 5A. 5A is fearsomely fast. It is brutal just to advance to state.

What city does Clifton swim in? Those are outstanding freshman times.
I don't think Fiegen was that fast as a freshman.

ande
February 28th, 2009, 03:21 PM
a few more records fell at the Texas HS championships (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/swimresults/5Aresults/)



Event 6 Boys 200 Yard IM
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National: # 1:46.31 2004 Bradley Ally, Ft. Laudle, FL
State 5A: + 1:46.25 2/27/2009 Matt Thompson, Jesuit
Name Year School Prelims Finals
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=== Championship Final ===

1 Matt Thompson 12 Jesuit 1:46.25 1:45.27+
r:+0.75 22.51 48.27 (25.76)
1:19.55 (31.28) 1:45.27 (25.72)


Event 20 Boys 100 Yard Backstroke
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Name Year School Prelims Finals
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=== A - Final ===

1 Matthew Thompso 12 Jesuit 48.02 47.37
23.10 47.37 (24.27)

Frank Thompson
February 28th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Kyle Whitaker, who had the National Public School Record last year at 1:46.75 and other two guys broke the record 3 times in the last month. Matt Thompson goes 1:45.75 to break the record, then Nick D'Innocenzo goes 1:45.57 and then Matt Thompson goes 1:45.27 to get it back. Then today, Kyle Whitaker went 1:46.25 to get the record back from the year before at the Indiana HS State Championships at IUPUI Natatorium. Both Thompson and D'Innocenzo have gone 1:44.XX but did not perform the swim in a High School meet so they can't have the High School record.

Matt Thompson was close to the record of Derya Buyukuncu record in the 100 back from 1994 by .13 (:47.37 vs :47.24). Alex Lim has the Independent HS and overall record at :46.82 from 1999.

Crazyman
March 1st, 2009, 12:05 AM
Amazing Cole Cragin
http://www.floswimming.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234711/156591-national-hs-record-in-the-100-back

hofffam
March 1st, 2009, 02:28 PM
Amazing Cole Cragin
http://www.floswimming.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234711/156591-national-hs-record-in-the-100-back

I was there to watch this race yesterday and prelims the day before. Cragin's underwater work is amazing. His start is impressive enough - but his kicks off the walls on turns is truly incredible.

His race dazzled the crowd and earned him a standing ovation. People were buzzing about it the rest of the meet.

smontanaro
March 1st, 2009, 05:03 PM
Amazing Cole Cragin

Un-f*ing-believable...

Bobinator
March 1st, 2009, 09:09 PM
Kyle Whittaker-Chesterton HS, Indiana-new state champs- new national hs record in the 200 IM-1:45.25=he's a junior!

aquageek
March 6th, 2009, 09:18 AM
Our club boys 15-18 went 6:34.84 last night in the 4 X 200 free relay. I'm pretty certain this is a new NAG record, beating the previous one, also held by us. Second and third place were 6:35 and 6:37, by those weak Swim Atlanta and Dynamo teams. Get some of that, She-Puffster! Actually, that's some super fast swimming by three great teams.

Frank Thompson
March 6th, 2009, 09:59 AM
Our club boys 15-18 went 6:34.84 last night in the 4 X 200 free relay. I'm pretty certain this is a new NAG record, beating the previous one, also held by us. Second and third place were 6:35 and 6:37, by those weak Swim Atlanta and Dynamo teams. Get some of that, She-Puffster! Actually, that's some super fast swimming by three great teams.

The previous record was 6:38.31 by some very good current NCAA swimmers. Matt Patton - Michigan, Sean Patton - Texas, Rickey Berens - Texas, and Jimmy Dabney - Tennessee.

aquageek
March 6th, 2009, 10:01 AM
Berens and Patton swim with us over the holidays while home. It's really unfair how good those guys are.

SLOmmafan
March 6th, 2009, 11:38 AM
It always made me unhappy that CA does not have a state swimming championship. Our high school relay team won a relay (200 medley) at the central section (central valley) championships and I had always wanted a chance to stack ourselves up against Southern CA and the Bay area - even if we lost. I would imagine a state swimming championship in CA would produce some crazy fast times.

On a separate note, does anybody notice how there are always records still on the books from the early 1980's? It seems like there must have been a real push in swimming that took place at that time - look at the distance records (free) in the boys public high school section. Those times would look fast in most colleges today!

shark
March 6th, 2009, 07:19 PM
It always made me unhappy that CA does not have a state swimming championship. Our high school relay team won a relay (200 medley) at the central section (central valley) championships and I had always wanted a chance to stack ourselves up against Southern CA and the Bay area - even if we lost. I would imagine a state swimming championship in CA would produce some crazy fast times.

On a separate note, does anybody notice how there are always records still on the books from the early 1980's? It seems like there must have been a real push in swimming that took place at that time - look at the distance records (free) in the boys public high school section. Those times would look fast in most colleges today!

If you think about it, goggles added a great deal to the entire swimming community. Early 70's, we swam without them. I am sure that goggles added quite 'a bit to the progression of swimming from 1974-1984. The guys settin' records at that time began swimming without goggles and found out when they used them, they could swim one hell of a lot farther in practice. No red eye chlorine itch. Let's ask Geochuck. The push in the early 80's began with 7 year olds in the early 70's. I believe that something on this site has talked about it. Or maybe it was in a book I read. Look at the guys at that time, the ones who were setting records. They all began swimming in the early 70's, or earlier. Goggles progressed swimming in the 70's as much, if not more, than sometype of technology we are seeing today. Did you see that time? Goggle or no goggle?