Blue 70 question

[OldManClemens]

I'm sure there have been plenty of threads on this before, so sorry for starting a new thread. anyways, I have a sizing question.

I am 5'10 195. I am thinking of either a 28 or 30. I am much bulkier in my upper body and in the chest area. What size would you suggest?

[Crazyman]

Get size 28.
I'm 5'8 , 177.5 and I have size 26. I would even go for 24.

[hofffam]

I hope you realize that you'll be able to wear the existing B70 for just 8 months in competition (the remainder of 2009). Most do not believe the current B70 will pass the 50% permeability test that is required in January 2010. The current B70 suit has far more than 50% of its surface coated in the rubber-like material.

[jim clemmons]

I am 5'10 195. I am thinking of either a 28 or 30. I am much bulkier in my upper body and in the chest area. What size would you suggest?

I'm 6' 0", 192lbs, I take a 28. Fits like a glove.

Btw, you've got the first part right but you spelled the last part wrong - it's C-L-E-M-M-O-N-S.

Ha, ha - just kidding. About the name deal - not the suit size. :cool:

[craig68]

I vote 28 and think you might consider a 26. I am 6' 195 and the 28 I just got (although slightly used) feels just a little loose. I think a 30 would be way too big. Yes, there was a thread on this earlier, and several guys about my size went with 28.

[pwbrundage]

30 will be too long for you. I wear a 30 and I'm 6'4" and it's easy to put on.

[RobbieD]

While people are guessing sizes, how about this... I'm 5'9" and 225. I fit decently into a TYR Tracer Light size 38. Do you think they make a B70 I could get into? I'm pretty sure I would destroy one, but I'd like to hear from another fair sized dude who has done this experiment himself.

I hope you realize that you'll be able to wear the existing B70 for just 8 months in competition (the remainder of 2009). Most do not believe the current B70 will pass the 50% permeability test that is required in January 2010. The current B70 suit has far more than 50% of its surface coated in the rubber-like material.

Have you seen this yet?

http://scaq.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-huge-blueseventy-to-offer-200.html

In theory if the swim skins are deemed illegal, suits purchased after 1APR09 are going to be eligible for $200 towards a legal B70 suit. It hasn't been officially announced but the source of the story is pretty solid.

[jim clemmons]

While people are guessing sizes, how about this... I'm 5'9" and 225. I fit decently into a TYR Tracer Light size 38. Do you think they make a B70 I could get into? I'm pretty sure I would destroy one, but I'd like to hear from another fair sized dude who has done this experiment himself.


Robbie - we've got a guy that fits that description. He carries most of that weight between his shoulders and his waist, if you know what I mean.

I helped him get into a size 30. Musta taken us 15 minutes the first time and we were both sweating profusely by the end of the ordeal. He swam in 6 events this past weekend (in the suit) and said it stretched just enough to allow him to get into and out of it without a whole lot of struggling by the end of the meet.

[RobbieD]

Jim - was it a dude that was wearing a military style ball cap most of the weekend at the Pacific Masters Championship meet? If it's who I'm thinking of, he made me think that maybe I could get in one. Similar build but I think I'm a little smaller in the middle. Do you know if the suit just stretched out, or are some seams in danger of giving out?

[Glider]

I talked to Deano at B70 (VP marketing, iirc) a few months back about the suit status (since I had just bought one,) and to paraphrase, he said the suit was legal through 2009, but they would do as much as they could to make things right for their customers come 2010.

My first thought was some sort of customer loyalty program. And this would seem to be it.

My second thought was to get as many swims in it as possible in 2009.:D

Of course, I bought mine in December. :( Gotta see what, if anything, they'll do for guys in my situation - I've only got three swims in it and may only get another 10 in before 2010.

By the way, I'm 5'10", 180 and am in a 26 kneeskin. The 26 full body was too small for me.


Have you seen this yet?

http://scaq.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-is-huge-blueseventy-to-offer-200.html

In theory if the swim skins are deemed illegal, suits purchased after 1APR09 are going to be eligible for $200 towards a legal B70 suit. It hasn't been officially announced but the source of the story is pretty solid.

[jim clemmons]

Jim - was it a dude that was wearing a military style ball cap most of the weekend at the Pacific Masters Championship meet? If it's who I'm thinking of, he made me think that maybe I could get in one. Similar build but I think I'm a little smaller in the middle. Do you know if the suit just stretched out, or are some seams in danger of giving out?

That be him alright!

Suit stretched a bit, seams didn't appear to be in danger of failing. :bow:

He's gonna swim 3 events at Clovis in it.

[jim thornton]

Help!

The great BillS is loaning me his B70 for CZ this weekend.

He's got a size 30.

I am 6' 1" and 182, a little pot-bellied, I suppose, but not third trimester style. Maybe late first trimester.

Otherwise, I am a fairly frail and petite looking elderly individual.

Anyhow, am I going to take on water?

Should I seal the neck and armpit holes with duct tape?

If any of you know Wally Dicks personally, I understand he is not going to be swimming but has a size 28 that he supposedly doesn't like. Could you call him and petition on my behalf for a loan in case the size 30 causes me to drag an additional 14 gallons of pool water around with me lap after lap?

Yikes. At about 7 lb. per gallon, I shudder to think that my dry weight is 182, but my swimming weight could well be 280. It's going to be like living the Paul Wolfe experience but with the Jim Thornton musculature structure.

[RobbieD]

Jim - Thanks for the real world large-man-B70-stress-test update! I really like my Tracer, but all the cool kids have a B70 and I want to see what the big deal is all about... we'll see if the curiosity can get me to part with all that $$$

[jim clemmons]

Jim - Thanks for the real world large-man-B70-stress-test update! I really like my Tracer, but all the cool kids have a B70 and I want to see what the big deal is all about... we'll see if the curiosity can get me to part with all that $$$

You're welcome.

I'd be interested to hear of your assessment comparing the two. I was debating with myself whether or not to get a Tracer.

[jim clemmons]

Help!

The great BillS is loaning me his B70 for CZ this weekend.

He's got a size 30.

I am 6' 1" and 182, a little pot-bellied, I suppose, but not third trimester style. Maybe late first trimester.

Otherwise, I am a fairly frail and petite looking elderly individual.

Anyhow, am I going to take on water?

Should I seal the neck and armpit holes with duct tape?

How many swims in it to date? It may still be pretty firm if it doesn't have like 50 or more swims in it already.

Rarely, the top part around the back of the neck might open up a bit. Although it may feel like a HUMONGUS GAP has just opened, it's really only a small crevice and actually only allows a pint or two in.

[RobbieD]

I'll let you know if I get a chance to swim in a B70 and can do some direct comparison. I did a write up on the Tracer for my website (http://www.robaquatics.com/2009/03/tyr-tracer-light-review.html) and I have swam in it a lot. I have a sneaking suspicion the B70 is a little faster but the Tracer is probably a better deal if you want to wear a good suit at a lot of meets for a lot of swims. The stitching is super strong and the material has held up really well. I'm impressed with it. What I really want to get my hands on is a Rise or a Titan but apparently you can't buy either until later this year (I asked).

[jim thornton]

How many swims in it to date? It may still be pretty firm if it doesn't have like 50 or more swims in it already.

Rarely, the top part around the back of the neck might open up a bit. Although it may feel like a HUMONGUS GAP has just opened, it's really only a small crevice and actually only allows a pint or two in.


Thanks, Jim. I must say I am excited to give it a whirl. I hope I am not building it up too much, like a movie that fails to live up to its reviews. I had a wee bit of that with the FastPro, which took some of the sting out of its theft.

Anyhow, I don't think I am going to make Olympic Trial cut times. But I would be lying if I said I won't be disappointed if I don't.

[BillS]

How many swims in it to date? It may still be pretty firm if it doesn't have like 50 or more swims in it already.



Jim's suit has swum for me (I say the suit swam because we all know it's all the suit; the swimmers have little or nothing to do with it any longer) for a total of 6 days in 3 separate meets. It swam 15 individual events plus 4 relays, covering a total of 3,900 yards exclusive of warm-up/cool-down swims. It should be reasonably tight still.

I am 6'2" and currently 198ish. The suit feels a little short on me. I suspect it will fit Jim just fine, at least for purposes of our junk science experiment.

[jim clemmons]

Jim's suit has swum for me (I say the suit swam because we all know it's all the suit; the swimmers have little or nothing to do with it any longer) for a total of 6 days in 3 separate meets. It swam 15 individual events plus 4 relays, covering a total of 3,900 yards exclusive of warm-up/cool-down swims. It should be reasonably tight still.

I am 6'2" and currently 198ish. The suit feels a little short on me. I suspect it will fit Jim just fine, at least for purposes of our junk science experiment.

I have a hunch it will fit just comfortably fine. Mine's got, I don't know - I've lost track, probably 75 swims +/- a gob, and still holding together well. Not a gap to be found anywhere on it. Not as tight as it once was, but still molding to my shape.

[jim thornton]

Okay, so we are all agreed.

If I do extremely well, it is my talent.

If I do extremely poorly, it's because the suit doesn't fit right.

I must say that the odds of at least one of these hypotheses being born out by the junk science experiment are very high despite a relatively low sample size (p<.005).

Soon, I think we will all be able to rest easy, the issue settled once and for all.

Note: B70 corporate overlords--it is not too late to buy me out. For $750,000, I would be willing to cancel the experiment, and allow the biases of individual swimmers continue to drive their purchasing decisions.

As Michael Scott just put it on tonight's office, "My balls are in your court."

[mctrusty]

Okay, so we are all agreed.

If I do extremely well, it is my talent.

If I do extremely poorly, it's because the suit doesn't fit right.

I must say that the odds of at least one of these hypotheses being born out by the junk science experiment are very high despite a relatively low sample size (p<.005).

Soon, I think we will all be able to rest easy, the issue settled once and for all.

Note: B70 corporate overlords--it is not too late to buy me out. For $750,000, I would be willing to cancel the experiment, and allow the biases of individual swimmers continue to drive their purchasing decisions.

As Michael Scott just put it on tonight's office, "My balls are in your court."

As Jack said in tonight's 30 Rock, "THIS is Decadent -- and I once went to Miami with Darryl Strawberry." :)

[jim thornton]

I am leaving now to meet my fate.

I hope for, but fear there will be no, laughing matter for the likes of me in the pitiless waters of the George Mason University water tank...

[jim clemmons]

Okay, so we are all agreed.

If I do extremely well, it is my talent.

If I do extremely poorly, it's because the suit doesn't fit right.

No, we are so not all agreed.

If you do well, it's the suit.

If you do poorly, extremely or otherwise, it's because you failed to take advantage of the suits magical properties.

Good luck; get out fast and don't be waiting around for anybody.

[Karen Duggan]

Jim,
Are you going to make public, for everyone to see, the suit's magical chant that you repeat as you put it on, in between sips of Red Bull?
:lmao:

[Allen Stark]

I am leaving now to meet my fate.

I hope for, but fear there will be no, laughing matter for the likes of me in the pitiless waters of the George Mason University water tank...

Jim,be sure to check the switch on the back.you don't want to dive in for a free race with it set on breaststroke(the suit does swim for itself.)
I have an idea for an exciting relay-all 4 swimmers must wear the same single full body tech suit.After the first leg the swimmer jumps out of the water,takes off the suit(with appropriate and legal undergarmets),hands it to the next swimmer,who puts it on and dives in etc.This event will be particularly exciting for mixed relays:outtahere:

[The Fortress]

Jim,
Are you going to make public, for everyone to see, the suit's magical chant that you repeat as you put it on, in between sips of Red Bull?
:lmao:

I think there may be a photo op upon his arrival this evening ... :afraid: Or perhaps video ...

[Ahelee Sue Osborn]

My B70 arrived at 10:30am today.
The meet started at noon.
No sweat... :)

I LOVE IT!
I warmed up in it - and stayed in the pool chatting - for almost an hour before my first race just to get a feel for it as much as I could.

Strokes and turns all feel flippy and out of sink - but my times were my best.
Glad I have it to test out before nationals.

Been racing in FSPro suits - long and short for a year now. Loved that suit first.
But now until they tell me I can't... it will be B70 NERO.

Also, wore my wrinkle-less cap by Ande R.'s suggestion.
SLICE!

This is the first time I have ever swum in a Regional Championships without participating in relays.
Weird - like decadent.
Like it better with relays.
I've never been one to complain about swimming them!

[ande]

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[jim thornton]

Jim,
Are you going to make public, for everyone to see, the suit's magical chant that you repeat as you put it on, in between sips of Red Bull?
:lmao:

I think I can! I think I can!
Wait.
Well, I am pretty sure I can! I am pretty sure I can!
Oh, hell.
I don't know if I can or not.

Stay tuned for more chants you can use yourself along with the vlogging dissection of all things B70 performance-related for the pot-bellied geriatric swimming community. I am hoping to have the definitive analysis sometime very soon before or after FINA makes its ruling.