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aztimm
June 3rd, 2003, 10:45 PM
Hello,

I've heard much discussion in the past about 'fast' pools, especially in Indy. Just curious how all of you would rate the ASU-Mona Plummer pool for Nationals.

Also...did the warm weather/outdoor conditions affect the 'fast' pool posibilities for you?

Thanks.


Tim Murphy
Sun Devil Masters

Dominick Aielloeaver
June 4th, 2003, 01:08 AM
I swam in the nationals. And I did feel a differance in the watertemp. YOU see I swim at the L. A. fitness it is a 25 meter pool. But water temp. is approx. 84 degrees. I belive at the nat,ls it was maybe 80 degrees .And although the weather was warm, I did feela differance in the two pools. I belive the A. S. U. pool did not helpin my 200 . But in the 1650 & the 500 it helped me. I dont know maybe I was in a hurry to get out of cold water.:) :cool: :)

cinc3100
June 4th, 2003, 01:45 AM
Dom, what I suggest is when you swim at a pool like Tempe which I did swim in the state short meters meet, is to do a warmdown about 10 mintues to 15 mintues before your race. Swim slow mainly to adjust to the water temperature. At least they allow you to do a warm down. Year ago, I use to be in age group meets with colder water and you didn't even have an opportunity to do a warm down for your event and you hit the water and it was hard to breath.

Dominick Aielloeaver
June 4th, 2003, 02:35 AM
Cinc I did not even want to get into that. I sam in the az. state championship. I guess you were there. But I swam at the recreation center I did the 1650 . I thought it was really cold. But the next night we swam at the Mona Plummer. Well first off the weather temp out side the pool was about 65 degrees. we swam the 200 . The pool felt real cold. AS I started toswim, I could not belive how cold. I could only tell you I never thought I would make the 8 laps. When I got out of the pool I was freeeezzzzing and that is the truth.:) :cool: :)

Paul Smith
June 4th, 2003, 09:42 AM
Mona Plummer is hands down one of the fastest outdoor pools in the world: the entire pool has a 7' depth, deep gutters, perfect water temp, decent starting blocks.

The only problem with this meet is that they ran single lane lines (the small ones) which created a lot of turbulence, especially in the sprints. Typiclly for SCM or SCY meets they "double" up the lane lines which works extremally well, for nationals they didn't have enought to do this (they needed the extras for the warm up pools).

The conditions we're tough, hanging around a pool with virtually no shade all day and temps over 100 will take its toll!

Sam Perry
June 4th, 2003, 05:39 PM
Paul,

I agree with your synopsis of the lane lines. The only point I would make is that everyone that had to swim next to you had to deal with the turbulence. You put out a ferocious wake!! :D

jroddin
June 5th, 2003, 11:50 AM
I didn't care for the starting bar for backstroke starts (seemed to be unusually high up) but in general my personal opinion is the pool is extremely fast. I'm not necessarily a sprinter so this isn't the best example, but I've only broken 22 five times in my life (50 free) and my three best times are at that pool (twice at the 1994 Nationals and once this year).

So I say we have the meet there every year! Mark will be graduating soon so he'll have plenty of time to organize the meet in perpetuity.

Jeff Roddin

bailieb
June 10th, 2003, 09:23 PM
I think that the heat had a definate effect on my swims as I had never raced on the west coast and worked with "dry heat"... I feel that the pool was ok....the meet was a little long but it was a lot of fun.

cinc3100
June 10th, 2003, 09:33 PM
Well, you luck out, in July there is the monsoon season that begins and thunder and lighting and the humdity level changed after the monsoons. At least you didn't have to swim in Bullhead city Arizona, temperatures in the 120's near the colorado river.