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knelson
August 6th, 2009, 10:40 AM
The meet is now underway! Awesome swim by Tom Patterson in the 400 IM. He won the 30-34 age group with a 5:16.48, almost 17 seconds under his seed time. Congrats!

ViveBene
August 6th, 2009, 11:00 AM
The meet is now underway! Awesome swim by Tom Patterson in the 400 IM. He won the 30-34 age group with a 5:16.48, almost 17 seconds under his seed time. Congrats!

He discusses it in his blog:
http://forums.usms.org/blog.php?u=2837

Strong work!:applaud:

mctrusty
August 6th, 2009, 11:04 AM
The meet is now underway! Awesome swim by Tom Patterson in the 400 IM. He won the 30-34 age group with a 5:16.48, almost 17 seconds under his seed time. Congrats!

Holy smokes!

knelson
August 6th, 2009, 11:10 AM
Leslie broke 30 seconds in the 50 fly to finish third with a 29.74! Strong swim by Dana Burkart, too, also finishing third in her age group and demolishing her seed time.

qbrain
August 6th, 2009, 11:23 AM
Leslie was only .22 off the World record too. But a new world record set at Nationals for her age group (18-24 iirc).

Awesome job Leslie. 50M is a long way to swim fly without a wall to hang on in the middle.

ande
August 6th, 2009, 11:23 AM
folks usually discuss meets in the meet threads
2009 USMS Long Course National Championships - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums

knelson
August 6th, 2009, 11:45 AM
her age group (18-24 iirc)

I think you've been staring at her avatar too long :)

qbrain
August 6th, 2009, 11:56 AM
I think you've been staring at her avatar too long :)

Fort has a new avatar? I had not noticed.

gshaw
August 6th, 2009, 12:47 PM
Gary Hall Sr. just set a world record in the 55-59 50 fly: 26.86. It was mine so I was watching. When an Olympian of his stature breaks your record it's not so bad. I feel honored but would of course like to get it back! Obviously he is swimming fast and I am waiting to see him go after the record in the 100 fly as well.

Congrats Gary! It's great that you and other Olympians swim in our meets.

tjrpatt
August 6th, 2009, 01:31 PM
Gary Hall Sr. just set a world record in the 55-59 50 fly: 26.86. It was mine so I was watching. When an Olympian of his stature breaks your record it's not so bad. I feel honored but would of course like to get it back! Obviously he is swimming fast and I am waiting to see him go after the record in the 100 fly as well.

Congrats Gary! It's great that you and other Olympians swim in our meets.


I had a better time in my 400 IM than Olympic Gold Medalist Claudia Poll. :banana:.

It is weird that Gary was a very diverse swimmer and yet, his son is a drop dead sprinter.

Paul Smith
August 6th, 2009, 01:40 PM
folks usually discuss meets in the meet threads
2009 USMS Long Course National Championships - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums (http://www.usms.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14607)

Damn anarchist Kirk!!!

Stephenson gets a DQ in the 200 back...bummer as that 2:12 was an awesome swim.

gull
August 6th, 2009, 01:59 PM
Andrea Kremer: "Paul, Michael Ross just broke your nine year old world record in the men's 40-44 50 meter fly. How do you feel about that? Do you think it was the suit?"

qbrain
August 6th, 2009, 02:56 PM
I hope Andrea Kremer knows more about football than she does about swimming.

Paul Smith
August 6th, 2009, 03:02 PM
Andrea Kremer: "Paul, Michael Ross just broke your nine year old world record in the men's 40-44 50 meter fly. How do you feel about that? Do you think it was the suit?"

Show's how "soft" that record was to have lasted that long and a great swim by him...but even being 10 years his senior I'd love a head to head race with Michael in that event in any suit.

knelson
August 6th, 2009, 03:04 PM
Just saw this cross my screen as the latest completed heat:
1 Switzer, Keith M 46 BLU 2:04.00 1:57.89
28.11 58.03 (29.92)
1:27.79 (29.76) 1:57.89 (30.10)
2 Stevenson, Chris L 45 VMST 2:01.40 2:01.76
28.30 59.36 (31.06)
1:30.42 (31.06) 2:01.76 (31.34)

edit: Jeff "Muppet" Strahota dropped a bomb with a 2:07 mid 200 free. His seed time was a 2:18!

orca1946
August 6th, 2009, 03:38 PM
What do all the other olympic swimmers do years later ? Do they never swim again ? We hear of so few ever again.

tjrpatt
August 6th, 2009, 03:44 PM
What do all the other olympic swimmers do years later ? Do they never swim again ? We hear of so few ever again.


I heard that Steven Lundquist is like 300 lbs and doesn't swim. A friend of mine told me that he was ripped and huge beyond belief back in '84.

thewookiee
August 6th, 2009, 03:56 PM
Just saw this cross my screen as the latest completed heat:
1 Switzer, Keith M 46 BLU 2:04.00 1:57.89
28.11 58.03 (29.92)
1:27.79 (29.76) 1:57.89 (30.10)
2 Stevenson, Chris L 45 VMST 2:01.40 2:01.76
28.30 59.36 (31.06)
1:30.42 (31.06) 2:01.76 (31.34)

edit: Jeff "Muppet" Strahota dropped a bomb with a 2:07 mid 200 free. His seed time was a 2:18!

Way to go Jeff!

Jeff Commings
August 6th, 2009, 04:29 PM
I heard that Steven Lundquist is like 300 lbs and doesn't swim. A friend of mine told me that he was ripped and huge beyond belief back in '84.

He's more like 270 lbs. now. Here's the interview I did with him last week:

http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/21916.asp

ande
August 6th, 2009, 04:32 PM
I trained with Lunk in Austin before the 84 olympic trials. He was lean and strong, super nice guy, bit a partier

he made the 84 olympic team in the 100 br, 100 fl & 200 IM
1:02, :54, & 2:03

I ran into him in boston 12 - 15 years ago, he did a celebrity appearance at an open water event

he used to like to win every swim in practice, even warm up, I remember one LCM practice where we did a 200 IM in warm up, he wasn't too happy with me when I went around 2:30.

he broke a lot of swimming barriers and was quite a versitile swim meet. Think he had a falling out with the SMU coach which caused him to move to Austin to train.

Another time when he was in Dallas, he let me stay with him when I brought a date to the cotton bowl.


I heard that Steven Lundquist is like 300 lbs and doesn't swim. A friend of mine told me that he was ripped and huge beyond belief back in '84.

knelson
August 6th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Interesting that neither Moffet nor Lunk wore goggles while racing!

tjrpatt
August 6th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Interesting that neither Moffet nor Lunk wore goggles while racing!

My training mate who competed at the '84 Trials said that he doesn't were goggles when he races. Also, some older swimmer that I met today says that he doesn't wear in the 50s. How could anyone put their eyes in chlorinated water????

Chris Stevenson
August 6th, 2009, 10:05 PM
My training mate who competed at the '84 Trials said that he doesn't were goggles when he races. Also, some older swimmer that I met today says that he doesn't wear in the 50s. How could anyone put their eyes in chlorinated water????

I almost never wear goggles in my backstroke races; the extra peripheral vision helps me swim straighter. I will wear them when the sun is bad, or when I have a hard time judging the flip otherwise. (I also don't wear them in backstroke sets in practice...but my practice pools aren't chlorinated.)


Just saw this cross my screen as the latest completed heat:
1 Switzer, Keith M 46 BLU 2:04.00 1:57.89
28.11 58.03 (29.92)
1:27.79 (29.76) 1:57.89 (30.10)
2 Stevenson, Chris L 45 VMST 2:01.40 2:01.76
28.30 59.36 (31.06)
1:30.42 (31.06) 2:01.76 (31.34)

edit: Jeff "Muppet" Strahota dropped a bomb with a 2:07 mid 200 free. His seed time was a 2:18!

That was a great swim by Keith (and Jeff). Interesting tidbit: Keith wore the usual B70...and no cap. I found that a little odd, but it obviously works for him.

ALM
August 6th, 2009, 10:15 PM
I got to meet many Forumites today.

I met Jim Thornton, Leslie Livingston, and Paul Wolf. Met Floyd Fisk again (I think we met at Trials last year).

And, just so you know, the Webmaster is hard at work posting results (see attached photo - note the bottle next to the computer).

ViveBene
August 7th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Chick-o'-the-Sea and Anna Lea-Hawk both swam 400 FR this morning before some of us quite rolled out of bed.
Others whose names I only partly recognize did so as well.

:applaud:

Ahelee had a nice swim yesterday.

Strong work, forumites!

Speedo
August 7th, 2009, 02:37 PM
Mike Ross (52.42) just eclipsed Erik Hochstein's 100 Free record (52.48). Would like to see them swim each other sometime.

knelson
August 7th, 2009, 02:46 PM
Mike Ross (52.42) just eclipsed Erik Hochstein's 100 Free record (52.48). Would like to see them swim each other sometime.

Not quite! Erik swam a 52.10 a couple weeks ago.

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A fast time in the women's 100 back:
1 Metzger, Sarabeth E 31 SNM 1:08.20 1:03.78
31.07 1:03.78 (32.71)

Not a record, but still very impressive!

P.S. the 2008 Olympic Trials cut for the 100 back was 1:04.59!

Speedo
August 7th, 2009, 02:56 PM
Not quite! Erik swam a 52.10 a couple weeks ago.
I found that. Boy, that was a fast heat- that got him 3rd.

ehoch
August 7th, 2009, 05:18 PM
that was a fast heat- that got him 3rd.

That's why I swam the time I swam ... I came up after the turn 1/2 a bodylength behind and was really able to dig in coming home.

Need a showdown with Mike at one of these meets ... but not in yards :D

Spock
August 7th, 2009, 06:31 PM
Need a showdown with Mike at one of these meets ... but not in yards :D

No kidding. I swam in Mike's 100 heat today and was near him at the turn. Then he disappeared!

Lump
August 7th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Just saw this cross my screen as the latest completed heat:
1 Switzer, Keith M 46 BLU 2:04.00 1:57.89
28.11 58.03 (29.92)
1:27.79 (29.76) 1:57.89 (30.10)


Gonna have pull a "I know him!"......he was my college coach and a fellow distance swimmer (now swimming the short stuff and winning! :D)

All hail Switzer!! :bow::bow::bow:

Muppet
August 8th, 2009, 10:00 AM
edit: Jeff "Muppet" Strahota dropped a bomb with a 2:07 mid 200 free. His seed time was a 2:18!

Thanks Kirk and Chris for the shoutout. I was very surprised by that drop - 5 seconds off my PB from Worlds '06. That 2:18 was from my meet earlier this summer in case cries of "sandbagger" start raining down from the rafters. Since I haven't shaved/tapered for a meet since Worlds, I didn't know really what to expect.

Frank Thompson
August 11th, 2009, 10:29 AM
[QUOTE=ande;190208]

he made the 84 olympic team in the 100 br, 100 fl & 200 IM
1:02, :54, & 2:03

This statement is not entirely correct. Steve Lundquist made the 1984 OLympic team in the 100 breast and 200 IM but not in the 100 fly. In the 100 Fly, every one remembers Pablo Morales making it as the current WR holder at that time. But the guy that had the WR before him was the other 100 flyer and not Lunk. His name was Matt Gribble and he went to the Univ. of Miami. In fact in 1983, the Men's 400 Medley Relay team that won at the Pan American Games set a WR and it was the only time since 1956 when they started the 4 stroke medley to have all of the members of the relay be the WR holders in there individual events. Rick Carey in 100 back, Lunk in 100 breast, Gribble in 100 fly, and Gaines in 100 Free.

There have been many relays where 3 members have had the current individual event WR, but not all 4. In 1984, at the start of the Olympics, Pablo Morales had the WR but lost it in the individual event to Michael Gross, so that was about the closest its been done since 1983.

Matt Gribble died in a tragic car accident about 5 years ago. http://www.blogofdeath.com/archives/000844.html