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DanSad
August 18th, 2009, 01:55 PM
What would you consider the better swim (assuming same age)?

500 yd free - 4:18:50 - Male
100 yd breast - 1:02.79 - Female

tjrpatt
August 18th, 2009, 02:03 PM
I am going to say about equal since both of these times would have been QTs for WCTs back in July.

pwolf66
August 18th, 2009, 02:31 PM
I vote the 100 Br but both are VERY fast.

knelson
August 18th, 2009, 03:52 PM
The 500 time is definitely better. If you look at the event rankings on the USA Swimming site the 500 would rank around 35th, the breast would rank 150th or so. Power Points say the 500 is better, too. 926 for the 500 free, 855 for the 100 breast.

ehoch
August 18th, 2009, 06:39 PM
Gee - you guys are missing the main question -- what suit is allowed ???

Frank Thompson
August 18th, 2009, 08:33 PM
The 500 time is definitely better. If you look at the event rankings on the USA Swimming site the 500 would rank around 35th, the breast would rank 150th or so. Power Points say the 500 is better, too. 926 for the 500 free, 855 for the 100 breast.

I agree with Kirk here and I did a little different research. A 4:18.50 today in HS would be only 2.11 from the great National HS record of Jeff Kostoff of 4:16.39 and that time would almost guarantee you an All American selection. In fact that time would have been first in the nation by 4 seconds in the 2007/2008 NISCA All American rankings. The 1:02.79 would rank 19th for females in the same HS rankings. That time is about 4 seconds from the National HS record.

In masters swimming, the best time in USMS history was a 4:26.87 by Lionel Moreau in 2001 swimming in the 25-29 age groups and that is about 8 plus seconds slower that the 4:18.50.

On the other hand the USMS National Records for the Women's 100 Breast are 1:02.86 for the 18-24, 1:03.80 for the 30-34, 1:02.08 for the 30-34 by Katie McClelland, and 1:03.00 by Susan VDL for the 40-44.

So judging by these times the 1:02.79 would be a great time equaled by other masters swimmers. The 4:18.50 would be an outstanding time in masters and in any given year there would be no one within 10 to 12 seconds of that time in USMS.

JimRude
August 18th, 2009, 09:34 PM
I say the 500 free is a much better swim. YMMV.

Rykno
August 20th, 2009, 09:49 AM
I would also have to say that the 500 time was better.

but saying same age if refering to kids doesn't help much because you have to look at there physical development. if they are both 16, maybe the girl won't get any bigger, but the boy most certainly will. not saying both can't get faster.....just a thought.

on the team I swim with I have not noticed any of the girls getting taller over the last two summer, but the 14-16 yrs that were shorter than me are now looking down at me. we even have a 12-13 yr old that the coaches are waiting for a grouth spurt. she has been top 10 for '96ers the last 2 yrs, but there is some concern that the others are starting to look down at her. she might lose out in the future.

orca1946
August 20th, 2009, 06:17 PM
OK !! :bitching: What age is real important !!!