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BigNoodler
August 19th, 2009, 11:08 AM
Would you splurge and get one of these suits if you could afford one and they were in stock even with the possibility of a ban approaching in 2010?

There are lots of pros and cons of which only a few I'll list here:

Cons
Many of your competitors have inferior suits, so is it as satisfying to beat them given the possible advantage of 1.5 seconds or more per 100?

You are near some masters world records. Although you may break one with the suit, the satisfaction is not the same for you as the current world record holder did not have a comparable suit.

How will you physically and mentally handle the suit downgrade post the ban, assuming it happens.

Wait! Your "just for fun", it's all about self improvement masters swimming feels like it's suddenly taking a turn to win at all costs.

Pros
What's not fun about going as fast as possible while staying within the rules?

You had better take advantage of the fast suit technology while it's still around and legal.

Who does not like to turn in a top performance?


I'm torn. Pun fully intended.

humanpunchingbag
August 19th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Would you splurge and get one of these suits if you could afford one and they were in stock even with the possibility of a ban approaching in 2010?




No "Possibility": as it stands the tech suits are a done deal, a dead horse, soured milk. Unless, with their impending doom all but assured, the Jaked suit becomes gets moved to the "bargain bin" at 50$ a suit, why waste your money and likely post a bunch of useless asterix times?

I wonder how the companies that invested untold amounts of money in development of these suits feel right now? They were not even on the market long enough to suck even one swim parent into buying a full rigging for their soon to be Olympian ten year old. All that money and likely not even one red cent back on the investment.

BigNoodler
August 19th, 2009, 12:10 PM
As George W Bush would say, "Not gonna do it."

ehoch
August 19th, 2009, 01:20 PM
Have one and will wear it. I did get it for the summer already, so I am getting some use out of it. I will also wear the same suit as last year for some races to get "real comparison time".

The Blue70s are going for $200 or less - I am guessing the Jaked will follow the same pattern. We should get an idea in September on the deadline for the suits.

Swimmy83843
August 19th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Would they be legal as a wet suit in OW swimming? If so and they dropped enough into my price range I would get one.

lefty
August 19th, 2009, 03:42 PM
As George W Bush would say, "Not gonna do it."
That is HW not W

Allen Stark
August 19th, 2009, 05:50 PM
No "Possibility": as it stands the tech suits are a done deal, a dead horse, soured milk. Unless, with their impending doom all but assured, the Jaked suit becomes gets moved to the "bargain bin" at 50$ a suit, why waste your money and likely post a bunch of useless asterix times?

I wonder how the companies that invested untold amounts of money in development of these suits feel right now? They were not even on the market long enough to suck even one swim parent into buying a full rigging for their soon to be Olympian ten year old. All that money and likely not even one red cent back on the investment.
As it stands now neither FINA nor USMS has outlawed these suits for Masters.I ordered a Jaked for Nats and it tore the second time I tried it on.The replacement arrived the day after nNats and I plan to use it as much as possible.

tjrpatt
August 19th, 2009, 06:26 PM
You will still see these suits in OW events until they rip or wear out after their 15 swims or so.

orca1946
August 19th, 2009, 06:44 PM
Since they will be banned b4 the 1st meet of the upcoming season, I'll pass!

RobbieD
August 19th, 2009, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't want to buy a Jaked right now. Too fragile and too much money. I have a bunch of swims in a Tracer Light (about 40) and a b70 (15ish plus 3 open water swims) and they are holding up to the abuse fantastically. I'm definitely getting my money's worth out of these things. At $500 a pop and very easily torn, the Jaked doesn't seem like a good deal to me unless you're picking up a free one.

Bobinator
August 19th, 2009, 07:26 PM
I am wearing my Nero till it shreds off my body:afraid:.....or till it's illegal!

ced357
August 19th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Where could you even buy a jacked suit? I've searched with no success.

RobbieD
August 19th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Where could you even buy a jacked suit? I've searched with no success.

they've been selling them here http://www.jakedusa.com/store/

The Fortress
August 19th, 2009, 09:37 PM
Have one and will wear it. I did get it for the summer already, so I am getting some use out of it. I will also wear the same suit as last year for some races to get "real comparison time".

The Blue70s are going for $200 or less - I am guessing the Jaked will follow the same pattern. We should get an idea in September on the deadline for the suits.

Me too. However, no time drops for me with the Jaked, at least in the long axis strokes. At Nationals, I swam 2 50 backs (one Jaked, one B70) and 3 50 frees (2 B70 leading off relays and 1 Jaked). I was slower in the Jaked for both events. The only discernible variable between the races was that I felt like I got slightly worse starts in the Jaked. Oddly, I swam the fastest on day 4 in my very old and very stretched out B70.

I'll keep using both until they're banned for masters. I certainly don't recommend sizing down in the Jaked.

Calvin S
August 20th, 2009, 10:45 AM
why waste your money and likely post a bunch of useless asterix times?

a bunch of asterix times? the suits are legal right now. why would you mark any times set within the bounds of the FINA rules with an asterix?

Chris Stevenson
August 20th, 2009, 11:16 AM
a bunch of asterix times? the suits are legal right now. why would you mark any times set within the bounds of the FINA rules with an asterix?

I didn't realize that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix was such a good swimmer...! :bolt:

Calvin S
August 20th, 2009, 11:26 AM
I didn't realize that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix was such a good swimmer...! :bolt:

on a side note, his theme park outside of paris is awesome. Went there once as a kid.

BigNoodler
August 21st, 2009, 10:35 AM
Great responses.

Still trying to make sense of the whole Jaked situation.

One of the young men who wore a Jaked for finals while wearing a lesser suit for prelims had these results

100 LCM Fly Prelims 56.6
100 LCM Fly Finals with Jaked 53.3

200 LCM Fly Prelims 2:08.7
200 LCM Fly Finals with Jaked 1:57.8

200 LCM IM Prelims 2:11
200 LCM IM Finals with Jaked 2:00.7

ced357
August 21st, 2009, 01:29 PM
Well, that's really not an accurate deduction. We don't know if he was swimming easy in the prelims and then giving it his all in the final. Plus the additional adrenaline during the final heats. Impressive drops however.

JimRude
August 23rd, 2009, 07:24 PM
I give the big finger to FINA and Speedo. but rules are rules, also in spirit. So I am back to textile jammers. Actually I never wore textile jammers, having last really swam in paper banana hammocks, so it's really just "to" textile jammers...