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new
April 13th, 2010, 11:46 AM
during the last 6 moths I have been working hardcore on my 50s, (I used to work mostly 100-200-400, many 50s but almost never did them fully rested)

So my workouts have been about the same time-length, but with less meters, I have been doing lots of 25s, 50s, 75s, very few 200, and rarely 400+ (just for warm up)

last month I started with my old workouts again (traininng for the 200 free/IM, and 400 free/IM (after dropping 1 sec in my 50 free and 2 sec in my 50 fly)

Today I timed my 200 free and the time was pretty bad, I timed 2: 16 high

This month, last year, my time was about 2:09-2:10

So my 50 free is 1 sec faster (about 26 high, used to be 28), and my 200 free is 7 sec slower...:bitching:

My splits are always almost even, +-1 sec, the last one was 34..something each.

orca1946
April 13th, 2010, 11:53 AM
Nice time drop !:applaud:

new
April 13th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Nice time drop !:applaud:

well, I race the 200, not the 50 free. So, more than an accomplishment, is a warning for other people, improving your 50, doesn't always translates into a faster 200, is not a split problem, I just lost conditioning (legs, etc).

swimshark
April 13th, 2010, 03:21 PM
well, I race the 200, not the 50 free. So, more than an accomplishment, is a warning for other people, improving your 50, doesn't always translates into a faster 200, is not a split problem, I just lost conditioning (legs, etc).

I can relate. I switched teams (I practice with an age group team) and my sprints are getting better but my distance, which I love so much has gotten worse. I'm out of luck with teams so I am just enjoying the sprints while I can and hoping that my distance will come back and soon!

jordangregory
April 14th, 2010, 12:27 PM
You are experiencing the principle of specificity.
Different types of training cause different energy systems to adapt.
That is why drop dead 50 sprinters don't do much else. There is always a sacrifice in life. You can't do everything.

SolarEnergy
April 14th, 2010, 04:21 PM
during the last 6 moths I have been working hardcore on my 50s, (I used to work mostly 100-200-400, many 50s but almost never did them fully rested)

So my workouts have been about the same time-length, but with less meters, I have been doing lots of 25s, 50s, 75s, very few 200, and rarely 400+ (just for warm up)

last month I started with my old workouts again (traininng for the 200 free/IM, and 400 free/IM (after dropping 1 sec in my 50 free and 2 sec in my 50 fly)

Today I timed my 200 free and the time was pretty bad, I timed 2: 16 high

This month, last year, my time was about 2:09-2:10

So my 50 free is 1 sec faster (about 26 high, used to be 28), and my 200 free is 7 sec slower...:bitching:

My splits are always almost even, +-1 sec, the last one was 34..something each.
My opinion, as soon as you resume training targeted to the 200 (pure aerobic capacity energy system) then your 50 will remain 1sec faster and your 200 may go even lower than what it was last year.

You're probably 4-6 weeks away from this to happen. So I think you made a smart choice.

Nailing on the 200 all year round whilst neglecting the shorter distances is equivalent to painting yourself into a corner.

Speedo
April 14th, 2010, 05:00 PM
My opinion, as soon as you resume training targeted to the 200 (pure aerobic capacity energy system) then your 50 will remain 1sec faster and your 200 may go even lower than what it was last year.I may be misunderstanding what you are saying, but the 200 (if going a 2:09) does not rely entirely on the aerobic system- it actually relies mainly on the anaerobic system for most people. In fact, no event relies entirely on one system or the other. If he trains his anaerobic energy system he'll cover most of his events pretty well, except for the 400s. :2cents: