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ande
December 31st, 2010, 01:36 AM
In meets and practices I've seen swimmers wearing tape. Usually to stabilize a joint.

here's a rule comment on it and thought we might discuss it

FYI: Racing with Kinesio tape (or similar) is illegal without referee approval, and according to this note it should generally not be approved.

Begin forwarded message:


LMSC Officials Chairs:

Please pass the following along to all of your meet referees.

There have been several questions regarding the use of tape and other devices. Here are a few guidelines for referees to follow. As with many situations that we face, the answer is not always “black and white”. We want referees to make common sense determinations based on their observations and information at hand.

Rule 102.14.2 says that “Any kind of tape on the body is not permitted unless approved by the referee.” Note that this sentence is included with the rule deals with devices or substances that help speed, space, or buoyancy.

The prohibition against tape on the body generally stems from the compressive effects that tape could provide if wrapping an arm or leg, for example. This is much the same as the compressive effect provided by the coverage that some of the ‘high tech” suits provided. So, in general, something applied that would appear to provide this effect and help the swimmers speed would be prohibited.

The referee could approve the use of tape in limited circumstances, such as taping a bandage to cover a wound, taping a splint in place on a finger or toe, or prevention of further injury.

The USA-Swimming situations and resolutions database has one such example as follows:
46. Prior to the 100 butterfly, a coach informs the referee that his swimmer has a broken "pinky" finger and asks if the swimmer may swim with the last three fingers of the hand taped. What should the referee do?
Recommended Resolution: If he determines that taping together of the fingers is to prevent further injury to the swimmer and not to "help his speed," the referee has the authority to allow the request.
Applicable Rules 102.10.10, 102.13.1 (Note these are USA-Swimming rule references.)
A question received about a “Cho Pat” sports device was addressed by the USMS Rules Chair as follows:

“Arm bands are not regarded as parts of the swimsuit and are not allowed. This is the same situation as: "Any kind of tape on the body is not permitted unless approved by the referee." As is the case with tape on the body, the referee at each meet will also make the determination about the Cho Pat.

It is important to point out that the determination on whether a device is acceptable for the “prevention of further injury” is not the same as determining a possible accommodation due to a disability, which is defined as a permanent, life-altering condition. The referee can modify the rules for a swimmer with a disability based on the guidelines in Article 108. This provision does not apply to injuries or other temporary conditions.

It is also important to note that while swimmers could present a doctor’s note to explain the injury, it is not required. Referees are not required to follow such instructions, nor or they required to make evaluations based on detailed medical data that the swimmer might present. Referees are expected to make the best common-sense decisions that they can make based on the information available and must do so in a timely manner without disrupting the meet. This may include talking to the swimmer, asking questions regarding the injury or purpose, and taking into account any data the swimmer might provide.

The best advice is to instruct swimmers to approach referees before the meet and make the determination as early as possible.

Best Regards,

Charlie Cockrell
USMS Officials Chair

aquageek
December 31st, 2010, 11:32 AM
I'm glad you posted this Ande. I don't see many swimmers wearing the tape but it has become some sort of badge of honor to be mummified in the stuff in the tri community.

TheCaveman
December 31st, 2010, 11:55 AM
I use tape to stabilize my AC joint as I have a rotator cuff tear. It actually inhibits muscles from firing and I don't think there would be a competitive advantage. I presume it would be allowed by the referee under the rules as it helps to prevent further tearing. I guess I'll find out.

swimshark
December 31st, 2010, 02:08 PM
That's interesting. I have been in 2 or 3 USMS where I was wearing KT tape on my shoulder. I have also been in 1 USA-S meet where I had my shoulder taped. Not once did an official question me or ask for a note from my trainer.

I also, prior to ankle surgery, used to wrap my ankle in horse wrap (similar to athletic tape but in colors and cheaper when in bulk) and I was never asked about it, either.

Of course, none of those cases were to propel me forward. I had the tape on to prevent pain or further injury. I'm just surprised, based on the rule, that I was not questioned. Now I know to get a note from the trainer when I get taped next time.

Chris Stevenson
December 31st, 2010, 02:58 PM
I used to wrap my ankle in horse wrap

...must...resist urge...to comment...

orca1946
December 31st, 2010, 03:01 PM
When in doubt - ask the ref.:applaud:

aquageek
December 31st, 2010, 05:58 PM
IIt actually inhibits muscles from firing...

I wear tin foil on my head as it inhibits the aliens from firing.

Seriously, it is tape, not magic potion.

JimRude
December 31st, 2010, 06:23 PM
I wear tin foil on my head as it inhibits the aliens from firing.

Seriously, it is tape, not magic potion.

Best quote to end the year.

swimshark
December 31st, 2010, 08:04 PM
...must...resist urge...to comment...

Neigh.. Thank you Chris.

__steve__
January 1st, 2011, 09:49 PM
Seriously, it is tape, not magic potion.Yeah, but foil usually does the trick, esp the "heavy duty" grade

Lump
January 1st, 2011, 10:48 PM
What is the point of the rule? Its not like it would make you faster. Swim wrapped in duct tape for all I care.

That Guy
January 1st, 2011, 11:02 PM
What is the point of the rule? Its not like it would make you faster. Swim wrapped in duct tape for all I care.

please post youtube video of your duct tape swim

kthx

philoswimmer
January 2nd, 2011, 03:02 AM
What is the point of the rule? Its not like it would make you faster. Swim wrapped in duct tape for all I care.

Create your own tech suit -- with duct tape?

analazy
January 2nd, 2011, 03:26 AM
Create your own tech suit -- with duct tape?

My own tech suit with duct tape mixed with some forbidden substances to stimulate through the skin? Good idea!:D
Next, will have the referees instead of looking to my “behind” looking for the FINA approval stamp they will searching me “under suit …” for illegal substances:blush: would be unique:cheerleader:

Lump
January 2nd, 2011, 12:23 PM
I'm not saying I want a suit of duct tape, just saying you can wear as much type of any kind you like in my pool.

aztimm
January 2nd, 2011, 12:58 PM
At first glance on this topic, I thought this was quite silly to micro-manage. I have KT tape, and it is fantastic, especially to help with recovery after a long run (really helps push offs on my turns when swimming the next day). But after considering this a bit more...if someone is that injured that they need to wear tape, they probably shouldn't be competing in the first place.

So I guess I'm in favor of the rule.

The Fortress
January 2nd, 2011, 01:10 PM
At first glance on this topic, I thought this was quite silly to micro-manage. I have KT tape, and it is fantastic, especially to help with recovery after a long run (really helps push offs on my turns when swimming the next day). But after considering this a bit more...if someone is that injured that they need to wear tape, they probably shouldn't be competing in the first place.

So I guess I'm in favor of the rule.

How/where do you use the KT after a run?

I don't see how KT is performance enhancing at all. I've worn it in practice, but not in meets.

Duct tape, on the other hand, has been used by elite triathletes under their suits + wetsuits to get further compression. Sounds unappealing to me.

aztimm
January 2nd, 2011, 01:18 PM
How/where do you use the KT after a run?

I don't see how KT is performance enhancing at all. I've worn it in practice, but not in meets.

Duct tape, on the other hand, has been used by elite triathletes under their suits + wetsuits to get further compression. Sounds unappealing to me.

What I use it for depends on what hurts...some examples--
* shin splints: I put it length-wise from about my ankle up both the inside and outside of my leg, using whole strips

* ankle: kind of make it into a wrap. I usually will use a mixture of 1/2 and whole strips.

This stuff is amazing, the instructions that come with it show how you can use it nearly anywhere on your body! They're active on Facebook, they'll answer any questions pretty quickly. Plus the tape stays on through a shower or pool workout. I found the best for me is to shave where I plan to put it ahead of time, prevents some pain in taking it off later.

I agree it isn't performance-enhancing. If anything, it would probably create more drag.

The Fortress
January 2nd, 2011, 01:36 PM
What I use it for depends on what hurts...some examples--
* shin splints: I put it length-wise from about my ankle up both the inside and outside of my leg, using whole strips

* ankle: kind of make it into a wrap. I usually will use a mixture of 1/2 and whole strips.

This stuff is amazing, the instructions that come with it show how you can use it nearly anywhere on your body! They're active on Facebook, they'll answer any questions pretty quickly. Plus the tape stays on through a shower or pool workout. I found the best for me is to shave where I plan to put it ahead of time, prevents some pain in taking it off later.

I agree it isn't performance-enhancing. If anything, it would probably create more drag.

Thanks Tim. I've used it before for my shoulders and back, but never the legs. I may try to use it on my calves, as they take a lot of abuse during my workouts.

smontanaro
January 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM
Can someone explain how KT tape works? How can placing tape on the skin do much, if anything, to aid (possibly injured) muscles in recovery? Sounds like an excellent example of the placebo effect to me.

swimshark
January 2nd, 2011, 03:43 PM
At first glance on this topic, I thought this was quite silly to micro-manage. I have KT tape, and it is fantastic, especially to help with recovery after a long run (really helps push offs on my turns when swimming the next day). But after considering this a bit more...if someone is that injured that they need to wear tape, they probably shouldn't be competing in the first place.

So I guess I'm in favor of the rule.

In my case, the tape enabled me to keep competing but I wasn't doing any more damage by doing so. Without it, the tendons moved too much and it hurt more.

debaru
January 2nd, 2011, 06:56 PM
Can someone explain how KT tape works? How can placing tape on the skin do much, if anything, to aid (possibly injured) muscles in recovery? Sounds like an excellent example of the placebo effect to me.

After checking out the KT website, and watching a video for the type of pain I tend to experience, I definitely would give this stuff a try. Here's a link to how it works (scroll down near the bottom of the page):
http://www.kttape.com/what-is-kt-tape/

aztimm
January 2nd, 2011, 11:30 PM
After checking out the KT website, and watching a video for the type of pain I tend to experience, I definitely would give this stuff a try.

If you get it, Amazon has pretty good prices :)

orca1946
January 2nd, 2011, 11:56 PM
Will we now have suit inspectors looking for hidden tape ?:badday:

analazy
January 3rd, 2011, 04:03 AM
Duct tape was forbidden by FINA because of the substances used under…
anything that prevents the feeling of pain while competing is performance enhancing

swimshark
January 3rd, 2011, 07:32 AM
Duct tape was forbidden by FINA because of the substances used under…
anything that prevents the feeling of pain while competing is performance enhancing


The KT tape and horse wrap both let me swim without feeling pain, when I have it. But I've been allowed to swim in USMS and USA-S meets with it on.

aztimm
January 3rd, 2011, 11:45 AM
Duct tape was forbidden by FINA because of the substances used under…
anything that prevents the feeling of pain while competing is performance enhancing


What about a band-aid? I've seen some of those that are 6" long...maybe they can also be performance enhancing? A strip of KT tape isn't much longer.

debaru
January 3rd, 2011, 02:53 PM
If you get it, Amazon has pretty good prices :)

Thanks for the tip. I checked for local resellers and just about all of the major sporting good stores (i.e., Big 5, Sports Chalet, Dick's, Sports Authority) sell the stuff. Unless I can get free shipping from Amazon, I usually find it's cheaper to just get it locally as the cost of shipping negates the savings. But, I will compare prices. :agree: