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tjrpatt
July 29th, 2012, 08:03 PM
He might want to wear it again in the medley relay. After that he might be more amenable to an offer. What do you want it for?

I don't wear used suits. However, I guess that that style is only for their paid-spokes swimmers. I can't find it online anywhere.

That Guy
July 29th, 2012, 08:19 PM
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philoswimmer
July 29th, 2012, 09:59 PM
Dana Vollmer!!!:banana:

gdanner
July 29th, 2012, 10:37 PM
If Ryan couldn't bring his 400 IM home faster than a 16 year old girl, why would we want him anchoring our relay?

orca1946
July 29th, 2012, 10:50 PM
A least they can't blame Phelps for this one. Lochte gave his best - the french were just better in the end. Viva la france !

orca1946
July 29th, 2012, 10:54 PM
a great race for Hansen, that should get the " scream" out of his head!

Peter Cruise
July 29th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Relays are a combination of ability and team voodoo. Always have been, Lezaks leg 4 years ago was an outstanding example, but you see at every level from local to international- magic happens. Stories on the sports websites suggest that Lochte swimming his 200 meter semi before meant that he was tired and that coaches perhaps made a bad decision, but hey- Agnel was in the 200 free semi after Lochte and we know what happened- his coaches showed genius? No, they made their decision based upon their best judgement, just as the American coaches did. A great, entertaining race ensued- nuff said.

orca1946
July 29th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Phelps looked O K with the results. It will bring phelps up & Lochte down a bit , so look for them to have good results from here on out

rxleakem
July 29th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Relays are a combination of ability and team voodoo. Always have been, Lezaks leg 4 years ago was an outstanding example, but you see at every level from local to international- magic happens. Stories on the sports websites suggest that Lochte swimming his 200 meter semi before meant that he was tired and that coaches perhaps made a bad decision, but hey- Agnel was in the 200 free semi after Lochte and we know what happened- his coaches showed genius? No, they made their decision based upon their best judgement, just as the American coaches did. A great, entertaining race ensued- nuff said.

+1

knelson
July 30th, 2012, 02:04 AM
Phelps looked O K with the results. It will bring phelps up & Lochte down a bit , so look for them to have good results from here on out

I don't know. After getting spanked by Agnel in the relay I don't see how Lochte beats him in the 200 free. I would be shocked to see Lochte win the 200 free and he might have trouble even making the podium. Park and Sun are both going to be difficult to beat.

Maui Mike
July 30th, 2012, 05:03 AM
Relays often don't follow form.

When Bill Russell was asked how his Celtics kept beating the Lakers even though they didn't match up well, Russell spoke for all athletes with his reply ---"I guess that's why they keep score."

mikeh
July 30th, 2012, 06:40 AM
http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/World/31447.asp



Grevers was faster than that in the morning, compared to Lochte's, um, has Ryan Lochte ever done a 100 freestyle before?

I'm a bit emotional right now, having just watched the 4x100 relay, so forgive me. That was a disaster. At least when Bernard gave away the lead in 2008, it was to the fastest split in world history. The Frenchman swam great, but there is no excuse for putting a middle distance swimmer like Lochte on as the anchor leg of a 4x100. He's the hot swimmer right now and is on every magazine, but the coaches have to be more clear-headed than that. Matt Grevers should have been on that relay, with Phelps as the anchor leg.

I know this is not fair of me, as hindsight is 20/20. This wasn't as bad a decision as leaving Gary Hall Jr off the relay in 2004 in favor of Ian Crocker. But this was pretty bad. Lochte's leg was probably the slowest, if you factor in the relay start. He's our best male swimmer right now, but he's middle distance, not sprint. The coaches need to do some serious soul searching right now.

mctrusty
July 30th, 2012, 08:44 AM
Grevers swam the 100 backstroke much closer to the relay, so he wasn't exactly fresh either. He went 47.54 in the morning and Lochte went 47.74 in finals. The US lost by 0.45 seconds.

I'm not buying that Grevers, who had raced much more recently, would have improved the result.

scyfreestyler
July 30th, 2012, 10:08 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--usa-s-risky-men-s-freestyle-relay-plan-backfires-in-an-ironic-twist-.html


Lochte did, in fact, die. He had no energy to bring the race home. This was a tactical failure on his part, but it was brought on by the larger failure of his coach, Gregg Troy, who is also the head American men's coach.
Lochte was too amped for his anchor leg, taking it out too quickly. An explosive underwater start sapped his energy. His turnover was too fast. Not a natural sprinter, he immediately engaged in a dead sprint.
"I overswam the first 50," he said, "which hurt me in the last 50."
Said Troy: "I knew on the first 25 he was in trouble."

This was trouble of Troy's making. Lochte was a bit of a surprise inclusion on the relay, since he rarely swims the 100 free. And he was definitely a surprise choice to anchor -- he'd never anchored a 400 freestyle relay in a major national or international event.
"Kind of a coaching error," Troy acknowledged. But later, when I asked if in hindsight he would have taken Lochte out of the anchor role, he said, "No, I think we probably would've swam the same relay."
Another ancient Greek concept comes to mind here: hubris.
Troy surprisingly put Lochte in a high-risk, high-reward position that was never a natural fit. That excessive pride in his personal star swimmer gave Lochte a chance to play the hero -- but also the chance to be the guy who blew the race.
In reality, the race was taken from Lochte more than he gave it away, but the fact remains that he had a significant lead in the final leg and got smoked. With a different anchor -- a more seasoned 100-meter swimmer -- the result may have been a rousing triumph.
"He didn't have much experience there," Troy said. "I just wish he could have swam a little bit smarter race."

art_z
July 30th, 2012, 10:13 AM
The 200 Free final tonight is going to be insane. Some many different ways this thing can go.

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Dana Vollmer!!!:banana:
Vollmer! http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/swimming/story/_/id/8212621/2012-london-olympic-games-vollmer-redeems-self-world-record

ande
July 30th, 2012, 10:17 AM
2012 Olympic: Swimming

2012 Olympic Swimming begins on Sat July 28th in London with:

Prelims at 10 am
5:00 am Eastern
4:00 am Central
3:00 am Mountain
2:00 am Pacific


Heat Sheets (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/index.html)


Day 1 Sat Jul 28 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=28-july/all-day.html)
Men's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054900/index.html)
Women's 100m Butterfly (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/phase=sww021900/index.html)
Men's 400m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-freestyle/phase=swm014900/index.html)
Women's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054900/index.html)
Men's 100m Breaststroke (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-breaststroke/phase=swm031900/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 2 Sun Jul 29 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=29-july/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay


Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley


Day 4 Tue Jul 31 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay


Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay


Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke


Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 1500m Freestyle
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay


Day 8 Sat Aug 04 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=4-august/all-day.html)
Olympic Pool Swimming ends


Thu Aug 09th Womens' 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-marathon-10km/index.html)


Fri Aug 10th Men's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-marathon-10km/index.html)



2012 Olympics website (http://www.london2012.com/)


2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/index.html)

Schedule & Results (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/)

Swimming Schedule and Ticket Info (http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-gb/img/sys/tournament/london2012/oly-swimming.pdf)


Tickets (http://www.tickets.london2012.com/?camefrom=CFC_UK_LONDON2012_L2012_SIGNUPSPLASH)


Aquatics Centre (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/aquatics-centre.php)

NBC OLYMPICS (http://www.nbcolympics.com/)

NBC OLYMPICS SWIMMING (http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/index.html)

Wonder who will be wearing what suit?
Legally approved suits


NEWS


Swimming World's 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://tv.swimmingworldmagazine.com/events/2012-olympic-games)

Sports Illustrated 2012 Olympics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/)

SI 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/swimming/)

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/)



2012 USA Olympic Trials USMS forum site

knelson
July 30th, 2012, 10:29 AM
Anyone else catch the interview Bob Costas did with Bela Karolyi after favorite Jordyn Wieber failed to qualify for the all-around competition? Only two gymnasts from each country are allowed in the all-around. Costas made a comparison to NCAA basketball. He said something like "it would be like if in the NCAA tournament only two teams from the Big Ten or the ACC were allowed into the tourney."

An equally fitting analogy would be that it's exactly like swimming at the Olympics.

rxleakem
July 30th, 2012, 10:37 AM
@swimswamnews: FINA Breaks It's Own Rules at the London Aquatic Center (http://swimswam.com/2012/07/fina-breaks-its-own-rules-at-the-london-aquatic-center/)

Interesting note from the S-squared folks. The swims themselves are not affected, but will there be an issue with record keeping? Do we need to put an "*" on these games?

Then again, I am sure this has happened before at some point. :bump:

quicksilver
July 30th, 2012, 10:41 AM
Whomever the anchor was slated to be (on the mens 4 x 100), they were either destined for greatness or a lesson in humility.

Phelps would have suffered another blow to his ego if went last and the same thing happened to him as did Lochte. As it is, he's shown that he's human and he's got people gunning for him in both the 100 and 200 flys. The coach perhaps wanted to save him from being in that position of bearing the burden of defeat.

Hooray for Brendan Hansen by the way. Walks away from his career with a medal and a victory over his old nemesis! I liked it when he said it'll be the shiniest bronze medal you've ever seen.

Chris Stevenson
July 30th, 2012, 10:49 AM
I'm a bit emotional right now, having just watched the 4x100 relay, so forgive me. That was a disaster. At least when Bernard gave away the lead in 2008, it was to the fastest split in world history. The Frenchman swam great, but there is no excuse for putting a middle distance swimmer like Lochte on as the anchor leg of a 4x100. He's the hot swimmer right now and is on every magazine, but the coaches have to be more clear-headed than that. Matt Grevers should have been on that relay, with Phelps as the anchor leg.

Phelps as anchor? Going into the relay, all you knew is that he died in the 400 IM and swam slower than he did at Trials, and you're going to have him anchor? I'm glad Phelps split well, but that's pure hindsight.

Don't sell Agnel's split too short, a 46.7 in jammers isn't all that much slower than Lezak's split in a full-body cheating suit.

It was a risky move that backfired, complicated by the fact that Troy is the head US coach. Hindsight is wonderful, but everyone here acting like they know so much more than some of the best coaches in the world is just plain ridiculous, and a little sad. All we need is some belching and beer to complete the picture.

Having Grevers on the relay would almost certainly not made any difference. On paper the Australians should have crushed everybody, but relays have their own magic. Sheesh, the French swam a great relay -- and so did the US by the way -- time to give them credit rather than just bash a coaching decision.

thewookiee
July 30th, 2012, 10:53 AM
Phelps as anchor? Going into the relay, all you knew is that he died in the 400 IM and swam slower than he did at Trials, and you're going to have him anchor? I'm glad Phelps split well, but that's pure hindsight.

Don't sell Agnel's split too short, a 46.9 in jammers isn't all that much slower than Lezak's split in a full-body cheating suit.

It was a risky move that backfired, complicated by the fact that Troy is the head US coach. Hindsight is wonderful, but everyone here acting like they know so much more than some of the best coaches in the world is just plain ridiculous, and a little sad. All we need is some belching and beer to complete the picture.

Having Grevers on the relay would almost certainly not made any difference. On paper the Australians should have crushed everybody, but relays have their own magic. Sheesh, the French swam a great relay -- and so did the US by the way -- time to give them credit rather than just bash a coaching decision.

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

JimRude
July 30th, 2012, 11:01 AM
Phelps as anchor? Going into the relay, all you knew is that he died in the 400 IM and swam slower than he did at Trials, and you're going to have him anchor? I'm glad Phelps split well, but that's pure hindsight.

Don't sell Agnel's split too short, a 46.9 in jammers isn't all that much slower than Lezak's split in a full-body cheating suit.

It was a risky move that backfired, complicated by the fact that Troy is the head US coach. Hindsight is wonderful, but everyone here acting like they know so much more than some of the best coaches in the world is just plain ridiculous, and a little sad. All we need is some belching and beer to complete the picture.

Having Grevers on the relay would almost certainly not made any difference. On paper the Australians should have crushed everybody, but relays have their own magic. Sheesh, the French swam a great relay -- and so did the US by the way -- time to give them credit rather than just bash a coaching decision.

+1

smontanaro
July 30th, 2012, 11:03 AM
Hooray for Brendan Hansen by the way. Walks away from his career with a medal and a victory over his old nemesis! I liked it when he said it'll be the shiniest bronze medal you've ever seen.

I'm as happy for Brendan Hansen as the next guy, but I think Cameron van der Burgh's backstory is at least as compelling. I gather he was a close friend and training partner of Alexander Dale Oen's (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ipr01KJcz49W5sGLDR05DR_FRBIg?docId=CNG.5b337 accf137be91c03e1875b5bd615d.381). Would have been nice if NBC had at least mentioned that.

Yet another criticism of NBC's "coverage" of the Olympics.

Skip

Indianaman79
July 30th, 2012, 11:07 AM
does anyone else feel like these olympics - mens swimming mostly - is a bit "empty"? I just don't feel the excitement like i did in 2008. there is no visible celebrating, visible teammies cheering, teammies hugging, etc. it just seems like a big let down. no - i'm not ripping on our guys because i know i can't do better, i'm just saying it doesn't seem as energetic as the last one. aside from lochte and most likely greevers tonight getting golds, it seems like we are the bronze medal team to beat (wish i could win one).

ALM
July 30th, 2012, 11:16 AM
Cute parody of the USA team's music video:

"Call Me Maybe" Phelps Lochte Music Parody - Invade London - YouTube

selkie
July 30th, 2012, 11:28 AM
I'm also mad at NBC for no mention of Alexander Dale Oen on their prime time show.

justforfun
July 30th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Very entertaining 4x100 Men's Relay. It's easy to second guess the decision to go with Lochte over Grevers. I don't know exactly how much time Grevers would have had between his 100 back semi and the relay (the coaches certainly knew). I would say, though, that Grevers has been on fire and he was 3rd at O Trials in the 100 free. How many times in the past has the 3rd guy not made it on the final relay even after posting the fastest prelim split? I think he earned a spot on the finals relay. I sure would have liked to see him on the anchor, if for no other reason than a little intimidation factor. The guy is a beast!

Kudo's to the decision of leading with Adrian and Phelps. I loved getting them out to a big lead like that!

arthur
July 30th, 2012, 12:37 PM
... I don't know exactly how much time Grevers would have had between his 100 back semi and the relay (the coaches certainly knew)....
The first 100 backstroke semifinal was scheduled to start at 20:28 and the 4x100m free relay was scheduled for 21:00. Grevers was in the second semifinal so he would have had less than 30 minutes to recover.

ourswimmer
July 30th, 2012, 12:45 PM
I'm also mad at NBC for no mention of Alexander Dale Oen on their prime time show.

Agreed. You would think Kitajima/Hansen was the only story ever in the men's 100BR.

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 12:55 PM
I'm also mad at NBC for no mention of Alexander Dale Oen on their prime time show.

I watched the live stream of those finals, which included commentary from two non-NBC folks. I don't know who they were, but they were pretty good. They talked about Alexander Dale Oen quite a bit. I thought that was cool.

Warren
July 30th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Phelps as anchor? Going into the relay, all you knew is that he died in the 400 IM and swam slower than he did at Trials, and you're going to have him anchor? I'm glad Phelps split well, but that's pure hindsight.

Don't sell Agnel's split too short, a 46.7 in jammers isn't all that much slower than Lezak's split in a full-body cheating suit.

It was a risky move that backfired, complicated by the fact that Troy is the head US coach. Hindsight is wonderful, but everyone here acting like they know so much more than some of the best coaches in the world is just plain ridiculous, and a little sad. All we need is some belching and beer to complete the picture.

Having Grevers on the relay would almost certainly not made any difference. On paper the Australians should have crushed everybody, but relays have their own magic. Sheesh, the French swam a great relay -- and so did the US by the way -- time to give them credit rather than just bash a coaching decision.


You can’t say that Greevers wouldn’t have made a difference. It’s not like Agnel was going to split a 46.74 automatically no matter what the situation was. France’s 3rd leg was closing on Jones in the end and Angel knew he was faster than Lochte so he had to be very confident going in. Before the relay I thought that Greevers should have replaced Cullen Jones and I still think that we would have had a better shot at winning even though Cullen split a 47.60. Greevers could have gone faster in the finals with a more aggressive relay exchange than prelims and the adrenaline of finals. If Lochte had a bigger lead going in then maybe Agnel takes his first 50 out too fast and doesn’t have enough to close in the end. Lochte knew he was 2nd and drifted into the wall a little so he was actually a little faster than 47.74. The outcome depends on the situation. You can’t tell me that the rest of Australia’s relay wasn’t affected mentally by Magnussen’s led off. They must have been shocked and I believe it affected everyone’s swims on that team after seeing that which is why they missed the podium completely.

It’s wrong to say the coaches made a mistake but it’s also wrong to say that Greevers wouldn’t have made a difference. You have to admit, this relay team might not have been the best 4. But you can’t criticize the coaches decision because the fact is, we will never know what could have been. It could have been better. It could have been worse. Who knows? Would Jason Lezak have split a 46.06 in Beijing if the French weren’t talking trash and Phelps wasn’t going for 8 golds? Probably not. Like I said before, it’s all situational. I agree with Chris though, the French out raced the US and you have to give them credit. They deserve it.

gdanner
July 30th, 2012, 01:18 PM
The first 100 backstroke semifinal was scheduled to start at 20:28 and the 4x100m free relay was scheduled for 21:00. Grevers was in the second semifinal so he would have had less than 30 minutes to recover.

It should be noted that Grevers only had about 40 minutes in between his prelim swims, so it's not like this is out of the blue. It's also likely he was not going all out in the prelims or semis of the back, but I guess we'll find out soon enough! Oh and .2 turns into .3 or .4 because he wouldn't have had a safe start at night.

More importantly, Lochte simply didn't earn the spot based on any 100 free he has done in the last year.

knelson
July 30th, 2012, 01:35 PM
More importantly, Lochte simply didn't earn the spot based on any 100 free he has done in the last year.

To me this is the crux of the matter. Grevers earned a spot at night by swimming fast in the morning. Lochte swam a 58.91 in semis at Trials and then scratched finals. Five swimmers at Trials were faster: Adrian, Jones, Feigen, Berens and Lezak (a sixth, Scot Robison tied Lochte). Yes, we all knew Lochte would be faster than that, but how much? The great thing about swimming is the clock is the final arbiter. Ultimately the coaching staff has to decide who the fastest four swimmers are, but it sure makes it difficult when guys don't swim the event (or scratch finals) at Trials.

Charge
July 30th, 2012, 01:54 PM
Agree that Lochte didn't earn the spot for any reason other than his name. Hasn't proven to be an elite sprinter.

In hindsight I would have swum Adrian, jones/ grevers and phelps.

Probably about the same lead but with phelps totally rested and with something to prove.

Agree that Australia was done the second they saw magnussen wasn't doing his thing. Been in that spot before and panic sets in.

ElaineK
July 30th, 2012, 02:02 PM
Hooray for Brendan Hansen by the way. Walks away from his career with a medal and a victory over his old nemesis! I liked it when he said it'll be the shiniest bronze medal you've ever seen.

That was awesome! :applaud: :cheerleader: What a great guy, too.

Allen Stark
July 30th, 2012, 02:16 PM
Before the relay it looked like the Aussies were the team to beat.Put Grevers on the relay and you are assured of a 47.5,a safe call,but it wouldn't beat what the Aussies "should" have done.Put Lochte in and it is a roll of the dice.I expected him to swim faster,everyone expected him to swim faster.It was a gamble that didn't pay off,but our guys swam great,the French swam better,and wouldn't you hate to be the Aussies?

ande
July 30th, 2012, 02:27 PM
Cute parody of the USA team's music video:
"Call Me Maybe" Phelps Lochte Music Parody - Invade London - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZYJa1RowwU)

very cute
well written

ElaineK
July 30th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Hey, did anybody notice how well Cullen Jones did in the free relay? I just looked at his split- awesome! :applaud: Yeah, I know they didn't get the gold, but he sure pulled his weight with a fantastic swim! :cheerleader:

TRYM_Swimmer
July 30th, 2012, 02:48 PM
very cute
well written

+1

ande
July 30th, 2012, 02:48 PM
what a shock in the Men's 4 x 100 relay?
Australia looked great coming in.
Brazil didn't swim Cielo in the morning and missed finals, ouch

Are there any websites out there doing the math and breaking down the splits?

ie when you go to:
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)
It just shows:

1 06 France 3:09.93 - -
LEVEAUX Amaury Reaction Time 0.73 50 m 23.43 6
100 m 48.13 3
GILOT Fabien Split Time Rank
150 m 1:10.66 3
200 m 1:35.80 2
LEFERT Clement Split Time Rank
250 m 1:57.89 2
300 m 2:23.19 2
AGNEL Yannick Split Time Rank
350 m 2:45.33 2
Finish 3:09.93 1

2 05 United States 3:10.38 +0.45 -
ADRIAN Nathan Reaction Time 0.65
50 m 22.76 1
100 m 47.89 1
PHELPS Michael Split Time Rank
150 m 1:10.52 1
200 m 1:35.04 1
JONES Cullen Split Time Rank
250 m 1:57.11 1
300 m 2:22.64 1
LOCHTE Ryan Split Time Rank
350 m 2:45.03 1
Finish 3:10.38 2

~ ~ ~ ~
I'd really like to see the splits and not have to calculate them.
I'd also like to see exchange data on relays.

Yannick 22.14 24.60
Lochte 22.39 25.35

Midas
July 30th, 2012, 02:55 PM
I'm in the "Lochte didn't earn the anchor spot in the finals" camp, but if Grevers or Lezak swam in his stead and we still lost, how many people would have been posting "If only they put Lochte in that relay, the USA would have won for sures!"

I would have liked then to have gone with Lezak. He's obviously proven he knows how to come through in exactly this situation and having that experience might have been a difference-maker.

GregJS
July 30th, 2012, 02:58 PM
I suspect that a big factor in having Lochte anchor the relay was that overall sense of Destiny - the "this is Lochte's time" vibe - pervading the atmosphere; the sense is that he is especially keyed up to win, that has has worked superhumanly hard leading up to this, and that he will make some sort of magic during these Olympics. Since it didn't happen in the relay, it may sound silly looking back; but I'm not saying that it's necessarily wrong for coaches to get caught up in that. It's not all about who's best on paper, who had the best splits, and pure rational calculation like that. Sometimes, it might be right to go with that kind of vibe, even when the "real world" evidence suggests otherwise. Who knows - the other three on the relay may also have been feeling that Lochte-destiny-vibe and may have taken some kind of strength and inspiration from knowing he was anchoring them - and so they may have swam better than they would have otherwise as a result. Who's to say? We'll probably never know exactly how and why the decision was made - the coaches themselves might not fully know. But in some way, going with Lochte made "sense."

From the other side of things, Agnel must feel !great! knowing that he entered the water trailing "the best swimmer in the world" and came out ahead to win it for his team. Not quite a Lezak moment, but still, quite a moment indeed.

smontanaro
July 30th, 2012, 03:00 PM
Maybe we should have made France use five swimmers. :bolt:

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 03:02 PM
:cheerleader:WAY TO GO MISSY!:cheerleader:
I was worried when I saw that she barely made it through the 200 free semis, but I guess she was saving energy for the 100 back final.

P.S. Tyler Durden is the narrator's imaginary friend.

ande
July 30th, 2012, 03:05 PM
2012 Olympic: Swimming

2012 Olympic Swimming Day 3 Monday July 30th,
Finals & Semis Began at 7:00 pm London Time
2:00 pm Eastern
1:00 pm Central
Noon am Mountain
11:00 am Pacific

Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley

Women's 200m Freestyle Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Men's 200m Butterfly Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
Women's 200m Individual Medley Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
Men's 200m Freestyle Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Men's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Women's 100m Breaststroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)



Heat Sheets (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/index.html)


Day 1 Sat Jul 28 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=28-july/all-day.html)
Men's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054900/index.html)
Women's 100m Butterfly (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/phase=sww021900/index.html)
Men's 400m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-freestyle/phase=swm014900/index.html)
Women's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054900/index.html)
Men's 100m Breaststroke (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-breaststroke/phase=swm031900/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 2 Sun Jul 29 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=29-july/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay


Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley

Women's 200m Freestyle Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Men's 200m Butterfly Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
Women's 200m Individual Medley Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
Men's 200m Freestyle Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Men's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Women's 100m Breaststroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)


Day 4 Tue Jul 31 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay


Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay


Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke


Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 1500m Freestyle
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay


Day 8 Sat Aug 04 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=4-august/all-day.html)
Olympic Pool Swimming ends


Thu Aug 09th Womens' 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-marathon-10km/index.html)


Fri Aug 10th Men's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-marathon-10km/index.html)



2012 Olympics website (http://www.london2012.com/)


2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/index.html)

Schedule & Results (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/)

Swimming Schedule and Ticket Info (http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-gb/img/sys/tournament/london2012/oly-swimming.pdf)


Tickets (http://www.tickets.london2012.com/?camefrom=CFC_UK_LONDON2012_L2012_SIGNUPSPLASH)


Aquatics Centre (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/aquatics-centre.php)

NBC OLYMPICS (http://www.nbcolympics.com/)

NBC OLYMPICS SWIMMING (http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/index.html)

Wonder who will be wearing what suit?
Legally approved suits


NEWS


Swimming World's 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://tv.swimmingworldmagazine.com/events/2012-olympic-games)

Sports Illustrated 2012 Olympics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/)

SI 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/swimming/)

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/)



2012 USA Olympic Trials USMS forum site

ande
July 30th, 2012, 03:10 PM
:cheerleader:WAY TO GO MISSY!:cheerleader:
I was worried when I saw that she barely made it through the 200 free semis, but I guess she was saving energy for the 100 back final.

Wow that's huge
guess she was swimming fast enough to advance
Great swim

she also swam the 2 Free semis before and cut it super close qualifying 8th

Ht1

1 02 BARRATT Bronte 1:56.08 - +
50 m 27.63 5 27.63 100 m 56.80 4 29.17 150 m 1:26.34 3 29.54 Finish 1:56.08 1 29.74

2 04 SCHMITT Allison 1:56.15 +0.07 +
50 m 27.39 2 27.39 100 m 56.39 2 29.00 150 m 1:26.26 2 29.87 Finish 1:56.15 2 29.89

Heats 5 1:57.33 1 -

3 07 MUFFAT Camille 1:56.18 +0.10 +
50 m 27.08 1 27.08 100 m 56.19 1 29.11 150 m 1:25.72 1 29.53 Finish 1:56.18 3 30.46

4 05 POPOVA Veronika 1:56.84 +0.76 +
50 m 27.48 3 27.48 100 m 56.77 3 29.29 150 m 1:26.81 4 30.04 Finish 1:56.84 4 30.03


Heat 2

1 04 PELLEGRINI Federica 1:56.67 - +
50 m 27.97 4 27.97 100 m 57.63 3 29.66 150 m 1:27.64 2 30.01 Finish 1:56.67 1 29.03

2 06 McCLATCHEY Caitlin 1:57.33 +0.66 +
50 m 27.96 3 27.96 100 m 57.52 2 29.56 150 m 1:27.43 1 29.91 Finish 1:57.33 2 29.90

3 07 PALMER Kylie 1:57.44 +0.77 +
50 m 28.14 8 28.14 100 m 57.86 4 29.72 150 m 1:27.85 4 29.99 Finish 1:57.44 3 29.59

4 05 FRANKLIN Missy 1:57.57 +0.90 +
50 m 28.08 7 28.08 100 m 57.96 6 29.88 150 m 1:27.98 5 30.02 Finish 1:57.57 4 29.59

5 03 COSTA SCHMID Melania 1:57.76 +1.09 +
50 m 28.00 5 28.00 100 m 57.88 5 29.88 150 m 1:28.21 6 30.33 Finish 1:57.76 5 29.55

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Wow that's huge

guess she was swimming fast enough to advance

EVEN HUGER: Grevers and Thoman. WOW.

P.S. The Wizard of Oz is just a man behind a curtain.

Allen Stark
July 30th, 2012, 03:50 PM
I think Lochte's time from trials would have gotten 2nd.I wonder if he couldn't shake off last nights relay

Chris Stevenson
July 30th, 2012, 03:59 PM
EVEN HUGER: Grevers and Thoman. WOW.

Given the thread we had about it, I laughed when the streaming commentators credited the college "racing season" for teaching the Americans the technical skills that helped them win (both swimmers had great turns/underwaters).

It's time for the NCAA to switch to LCM; a Manifesto - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums

philoswimmer
July 30th, 2012, 04:28 PM
does anyone else feel like these olympics - mens swimming mostly - is a bit "empty"? I just don't feel the excitement like i did in 2008. there is no visible celebrating, visible teammies cheering, teammies hugging, etc. it just seems like a big let down. no - i'm not ripping on our guys because i know i can't do better, i'm just saying it doesn't seem as energetic as the last one. aside from lochte and most likely greevers tonight getting golds, it seems like we are the bronze medal team to beat (wish i could win one).

Too bad more people can't get as excited about women's swimming as they do about men's. Just look about how much of this thread has been about the men as compared to the women...

Personally, I am totally stoked about Dana Vollmer and Missy Franklin!! (and yes, Greevers and Lochte too! Woo hoo!)

:bliss::cheerleader::bow:

Rob Copeland
July 30th, 2012, 04:47 PM
P.S. Tyler Durden is the narrator's imaginary friend.After the beating Tyler gives the narrator, you call that a friend?

And by the way Dr. Malcolm Crowe is dead.

P.S. 42

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Too bad more people can't get as excited about women's swimming as they do about men's. Just look about how much of this thread has been about the men as compared to the women...

Personally, I am totally stoked about Dana Vollmer and Missy Franklin!! (and yes, Greevers and Lochte too! Woo hoo!)

:bliss::cheerleader::bow:

Missy Franklin will be in lane 8 for tomorrow's 200 free final. It's clear - we need font size 8 for this.

P.S. Verbal Kint is Keyser Soze.

Rob Copeland
July 30th, 2012, 05:18 PM
Why can’t all athletes be like swimmers?

Photo from Olympic Fencing

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 07:20 PM
P.S. 42 Spoiler space, man! :shakeshead:

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
Do not shower with your Olympic medal. No good will come of it.
http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/judo/brazilian-breaks-medal-in-shower.html

__steve__
July 30th, 2012, 08:00 PM
"After a few hasty phone calls and apologies, Olympic officials agreed to supply a replacement for the 23-year-old." nbcolympics

Replacements are marked "Replica". It should have withstood the impact however, made in China? :bolt:

mikeh
July 30th, 2012, 08:40 PM
Phelps as anchor? Going into the relay, all you knew is that he died in the 400 IM and swam slower than he did at Trials, and you're going to have him anchor? I'm glad Phelps split well, but that's pure hindsight.

Don't sell Agnel's split too short, a 46.7 in jammers isn't all that much slower than Lezak's split in a full-body cheating suit.

It was a risky move that backfired, complicated by the fact that Troy is the head US coach. Hindsight is wonderful, but everyone here acting like they know so much more than some of the best coaches in the world is just plain ridiculous, and a little sad. All we need is some belching and beer to complete the picture.

Having Grevers on the relay would almost certainly not made any difference. On paper the Australians should have crushed everybody, but relays have their own magic. Sheesh, the French swam a great relay -- and so did the US by the way -- time to give them credit rather than just bash a coaching decision.

The French swam great, and Lochte did his very best, and everyone should respect him for that. But Lochte should never have been put in that position. He was the slowest person on that relay, once you back out the start, which tells you all you need to know about the coach's decision, given he was in the anchor position. Lochte is a brilliant swimmer and has earned every bit of success he has, but he rarely swims the 100 and did not know how to pace it. His coach should have known that, recognizing Lochte's fantastic 400 IM did not mean he was ready to swim a fast 100.

Phelps's slow 400 IM merely proved he is not prepared to swim 400s; it did not prove he is generally unfit. A conversation with Bob Bowman could have confirmed this. Phelps should have been in the anchor position.

mikeh
July 30th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Brendan Hansen gets sportsman of the year, at least in my book. He learned what most athletes never do: that the joy is in the journey, and every day he gets to swim so masterfully is a blessing.

slknight
July 30th, 2012, 09:45 PM
WTF! I knew who won the 100 back but my husband was not "spoiled" and was waiting to watch it. NBC just spoiled it in a Today Show ad for tomorrow. Way to go, NBC. :bitching::bitching::bitching:

Chris Stevenson
July 30th, 2012, 10:05 PM
WTF! I knew who won the 100 back but my husband was not "spoiled" and was waiting to watch it. NBC just spoiled it in a Today Show ad for tomorrow. Way to go, NBC. :bitching::bitching::bitching:

I saw that, I couldn't believe they did it. And in the commercial break right before the race.

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 10:43 PM
I saw that, I couldn't believe they did it. And in the commercial break right before the race.
That's not the first time they've done that sort of thing. The other night they advertised the next night's 100 breast final featuring Brendan Hansen, when they hadn't shown the semifinals yet. Now imagine if you were a Shanteau fan and you didn't know the outcome yet...

That Guy
July 30th, 2012, 11:45 PM
Franklin http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/swimming/story/_/id/8216151/2012-olympics-missy-franklin-blossoms-olympic-champion



Never did they think the Aquatics Centre would be set up in such a way that it would be a seven-minute walk to the warm-down pool and USA Swimming would have to ask for special permission for Franklin to do her warm-down swim in the diving well, smack in front of some 17,000 gawking spectators.


Yet that's exactly what happened. After conserving her legs and qualifying eighth in the 200 free, Franklin climbed out of the competition pool, walked to the diving well, and began swimming back and forth for all to see. She stopped only for a quick drink of water.


After about 10 minutes, she climbed out of the pool and headed straight to the ready room where her rested competitors waited. In the end, her usual 1,200-meter cooldown, designed to lower her heart rate and remove the lactic acid from her muscles, was reduced to 375 meters. In other words, her recovery was nearly 75 percent incomplete.

:bow:

jaadams1
July 30th, 2012, 11:48 PM
:bow:


In the end, her usual 1,200-meter cooldown, designed to lower her heart rate and remove the lactic acid from her muscles, was reduced to 375 meters. In other words, her recovery was nearly 75 percent incomplete

So my little to none warmup isn't ideal? Now you tell me! :bouncing:

ourswimmer
July 31st, 2012, 12:29 AM
What is going on with that leg (http://files.2012.nbcolympics.com/mm/photo/sport/general/46/84/62/468462_m21.jpg)?

Fresnoid
July 31st, 2012, 12:32 AM
What is going on with that leg (http://files.2012.nbcolympics.com/mm/photo/sport/general/46/84/62/468462_m21.jpg)?

Its breaststroke, they're all mutants.

ourswimmer
July 31st, 2012, 12:34 AM
I watched the live stream of those finals, which included commentary from two non-NBC folks. I don't know who they were, but they were pretty good.

The replay I watched this evening of today's prelims had commentary by two people (Australians?) who were pretty well informed and observant. Then I watched the replay of tonight's finals with no commentary, but with live audio. Fun to hear the athletes talking to one another after the races.

jaadams1
July 31st, 2012, 12:58 AM
That was a great turnaround for Missy Franklin tonight with the 200 Free semi into the 100 Back final. Good for her!! :applaud:

knelson
July 31st, 2012, 01:09 AM
That was a great turnaround for Missy Franklin tonight with the 200 Free semi into the 100 Back final. Good for her!! :applaud:

She's awesome. As my wife commented it seems like there have been a few rather cocky athletes at these Olympics (not to say they've all been). Missy comes off like a breath of fresh air. She's one grounded individual.

orca1946
July 31st, 2012, 01:19 AM
How cool is Missy ?? !! She is so much fun to watch & be around.:banana:

Lochte looked really dejected. :badday:

Phelps looks revived & a little coy in his response of how he will do in the remaining races.:):anim_coffee:

orca1946
July 31st, 2012, 01:22 AM
WOW did the usa gymnastic team really fall :badday:apart & good for G B to earn a team silver medal !:applaud:

REALLY the japanese get a instant replay & the judges change the medal award ????????

ElaineK
July 31st, 2012, 09:07 AM
She's awesome. As my wife commented it seems like there have been a few rather cocky athletes at these Olympics (not to say they've all been). Missy comes off like a breath of fresh air. She's one grounded individual.


She is amazing! At (barely) 17, she appears to be more mentally together, more emotionally mature, more grounded, more articulate, and more intelligent than some of her teammates who have +/- 10 years on her. Watching her win the gold after that short rest was fabulous! :applaud: :cheerleader:

Grevers and Thoman: AWESOME :applaud:

gdanner
July 31st, 2012, 10:14 AM
So my little to none warmup isn't ideal? Now you tell me! :bouncing:

Haha. Seriously. Is 1,200 warmdown after an event common? I don't think I'm warmed down more than 400 ever, except maybe after a mile.

fmracing
July 31st, 2012, 11:02 AM
Haha. Seriously. Is 1,200 warmdown after an event common? I don't think I'm warmed down more than 400 ever, except maybe after a mile.

In college it was suggested we warm down 1000y at a minimum after a 50 or 100 swim especially if we had further races the same day. Given the order of magnitude scale higher that olympians are on versus lowly normal college swimmers... 1200 seems low to me.

ande
July 31st, 2012, 11:20 AM
Will Dwyer or Vanderkaay swim with Phelps, Lochte, & Berens?

1 04 United States 7:06.75

HOUCHIN Charlie
52.29 1 1:48.22

McLEAN Matthew
2:40.30 2 3:34.90 1:46.68

TARWATER Davis
4:26.39 5:21.23 1:46.33

DWYER Conor
6:12.20 7:06.75 1:45.52


Heat 1

1 04 France 7:09.18 - -
STRAVIUS Jeremy Reaction Time 0.74
51.68 1:47.42
MALLET Gregory
2:40.01 3:34.98 1:47.56
LEVEAUX Amaury
4:27.91 5:22.85 1:47.87
LEFERT Clement
6:14.47 7:09.18 1:46.22

knelson
July 31st, 2012, 11:31 AM
Will Dwyer or Vanderkaay swim with Phelps, Lochte, & Berens?

Another tough call. Vanderkaay has the experience and swam well in the 400, but that's a great split by Dwyer. VDK split a 1:46.0 last year in Shanghai. For comparison his 400 times between London and Shanghai were within a couple tenths. I think I'd go with Dwyer. You've got to inject some new blood in there sometime!

needs a sixbeat
July 31st, 2012, 11:38 AM
I missed the men's 400m free and cannot find a video. I searched through NBC's swimming videos but couldn't find it. Does anyone know a link? Thank you!:)

knelson
July 31st, 2012, 11:55 AM
Has anyone at all been wearing a Speedo Fastskin 3? You notice swimmers wearing the Arena suits and even the new TYRs, but seems to me most Speedo suited swimmers are using the LZR. Epic fail for sure by Speedo...

Luca
July 31st, 2012, 11:56 AM
I missed the men's 400m free and cannot find a video. I searched through NBC's swimming videos but couldn't find it. Does anyone know a link? Thank you!:)
https://www.youswim.com.br/watch_video.php?v=X9HBRWYA7M3N

Rob Copeland
July 31st, 2012, 12:12 PM
Another tough call. Vanderkaay has the experience and swam well in the 400, but that's a great split by Dwyer. VDK split a 1:46.0 last year in Shanghai. For comparison his 400 times between London and Shanghai were within a couple tenths. I think I'd go with Dwyer. You've got to inject some new blood in there sometime!You could also throw Grevers into the mix. However in my humble opinion, Dwyer and his 1:45.52 earned a spot in the finals.

knelson
July 31st, 2012, 12:27 PM
Just looking at the discussion at collegeswimming.com and someone suggested dropping Berens in favor of Vanderkaay. To me this makes more sense than putting Vanderkaay on instead of Dwyer. We shall see...

Indianaman79
July 31st, 2012, 12:38 PM
Just looking at the discussion at collegeswimming.com and someone suggested dropping Berens in favor of Vanderkaay. To me this makes more sense than putting Vanderkaay on instead of Dwyer. We shall see...

this!

berens really sucked in 400 free relay. i'd drop him and put P V in there w/ dwyer

ande
July 31st, 2012, 12:48 PM
Has anyone at all been wearing a Speedo Fastskin 3? You notice swimmers wearing the Arena suits and even the new TYRs, but seems to me most Speedo suited swimmers are using the LZR. Epic fail for sure by Speedo...

not sure, I have noticed more male swimmers are wearing high waisted suits, but many aren't.

smontanaro
July 31st, 2012, 12:54 PM
How cool is Missy ?? !! She is so much fun to watch & be around.:banana:

Don't forget Elizabeth Biesel!

smontanaro
July 31st, 2012, 12:56 PM
not sure, I have noticed more male swimmers are wearing high waisted suits, but many aren't.

Speaking of which, WTF is with the mail divers' suits? Is there some sort of fabric shortage in that sport??? Have they never heard of jammers?

ourswimmer
July 31st, 2012, 01:03 PM
Why can’t all athletes be like swimmers?

Photo from Olympic Fencing

Did you read the story (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/korean-fencer-forced-remain-piste-while-waiting-incredibly-191228265--oly.html) behind those pictures? I would have cried too.

jaadams1
July 31st, 2012, 01:10 PM
In college it was suggested we warm down 1000y at a minimum after a 50 or 100 swim especially if we had further races the same day. Given the order of magnitude scale higher that olympians are on versus lowly normal college swimmers... 1200 seems low to me.

Where are you supposed to warm down at a college meet? Most of the places don't have the facilities available to have multiple pool space, and the 5 minute breaks here and there aren't enough.

mattson
July 31st, 2012, 01:37 PM
does anyone else feel like these olympics - mens swimming mostly - is a bit "empty"? I just don't feel the excitement like i did in 2008.
I can't speak for anyone else, but in 2008 (and 2004) the LC Nationals were going on at the same time as Olympic swimming. Nothing like being around a group of swim fanatics to add to the excitement.

knelson
July 31st, 2012, 01:50 PM
Speaking of which, WTF is with the mail divers' suits? Is there some sort of fabric shortage in that sport??? Have they never heard of jammers?

Why in the world would a diver wear a jammer? To me that would look ridiculous. Swimmers only wear jammers due to speed. I'll bet you virtually none of the male swimmers at the Olympics would be caught dead in a jammer during a training session. Divers, OTOH, aren't concerned about speed and they certainly don't want to wear something that's going to inhibit their flexibility in any way.

ourswimmer
July 31st, 2012, 01:57 PM
Its breaststroke, they're all mutants.

In the picture, Miutatyte appears to be achieving a 90 degree "external" rotation of her left foot by rotating her left leg internally 270 degrees. Not that I could do it anyway, but is she really doing that? Should she be?

Interesting that neither she nor Soni seem to have their thighs perpendicular to the bottom of the pool.

Allen Stark
July 31st, 2012, 01:59 PM
In the picture, Miutatyte appears to be achieving a 90 degree "external" rotation of her right foot by rotating her right leg internally 270 degrees. Not that I could do it anyway, but is she really doing that? Should she be?

Interesting that neither she nor Soni seem to have their thighs perpendicular to the bottom of the pool.
It is clearly taken with a "fisheye" lens leading to distortion.

smontanaro
July 31st, 2012, 02:07 PM
Why in the world would a diver wear a jammer? To me that would look ridiculous. Swimmers only wear jammers due to speed. I'll bet you virtually none of the male swimmers at the Olympics would be caught dead in a jammer during a training session. Divers, OTOH, aren't concerned about speed and they certainly don't want to wear something that's going to inhibit their flexibility in any way.

Well, perhaps not jammers, but I didn't tune into the broadcast to look at plumbers' cracks. And, if jammers help swimmers get through the water more efficiently, I suspect they might help divers enter with less splash as well.

Skip

ande
July 31st, 2012, 02:28 PM
Day 4 Tuesday July 31st, 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Finals & Semis Began at 7:00 pm London Time
2:00 pm Eastern
1:00 pm Central
Noon am Mountain
11:00 am Pacific

19:30 Men's 100m Freestyle Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:41 Women's 200m Freestyle Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Butterfly Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
19:57 Women's 200m Butterfly Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 200m Breaststroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:43 Women's 200m Individual Medley Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:51 Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)



Day 1 Sat Jul 28 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=28-july/all-day.html)
Men's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054900/index.html)
Women's 100m Butterfly (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/phase=sww021900/index.html)
Men's 400m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-freestyle/phase=swm014900/index.html)
Women's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054900/index.html)
Men's 100m Breaststroke (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-breaststroke/phase=swm031900/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 2 Sun Jul 29 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=29-july/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay


Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley

Women's 200m Freestyle Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Men's 200m Butterfly Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
Women's 200m Individual Medley Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
Men's 200m Freestyle Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Men's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Women's 100m Breaststroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)


Day 4 Tue Jul 31 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 100m Freestyle Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:41 Women's 200m Freestyle Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Butterfly Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
19:57 Women's 200m Butterfly Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 200m Breaststroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:43 Women's 200m Individual Medley Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:51 Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)



Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay


Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke


Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 1500m Freestyle
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay


Day 8 Sat Aug 04 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=4-august/all-day.html)
Olympic Pool Swimming ends


Thu Aug 09th Womens' 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-marathon-10km/index.html)


Fri Aug 10th Men's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-marathon-10km/index.html)



2012 Olympics website (http://www.london2012.com/)


2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/index.html)

Schedule & Results (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/)

Swimming Schedule and Ticket Info (http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-gb/img/sys/tournament/london2012/oly-swimming.pdf)


Tickets (http://www.tickets.london2012.com/?camefrom=CFC_UK_LONDON2012_L2012_SIGNUPSPLASH)


Aquatics Centre (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/aquatics-centre.php)

NBC OLYMPICS (http://www.nbcolympics.com/)

NBC OLYMPICS SWIMMING (http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/index.html)

Wonder who will be wearing what suit?
Legally approved suits



NEWS

Swimming World's 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://tv.swimmingworldmagazine.com/events/2012-olympic-games)

Sports Illustrated 2012 Olympics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/)

SI 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/swimming/)

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/)



2012 USA Olympic Trials USMS forum site

SwimStud
July 31st, 2012, 02:41 PM
WOW did the usa gymnastic team really fall :badday:apart & good for G B to earn a team silver medal !:applaud:

REALLY the japanese get a instant replay & the judges change the medal award ????????

Don't get me started on that replay decision. So in slow motion he appears to go into a handstand and gets credit for the move yet in full speed he clearly flies off the apparatus after losing control. The irony was the Japan team coming out for the medal ceremony waving and smiling like the crowd appreciated it...I guess the crowd let them know their opinion when they got announced. Can't let that taint a super result for GB regardless. 4th would have been incredible based on history.
Heart went out to the US guys...especially the kid from the Bronx...he looked distraught.

Couroboros
July 31st, 2012, 03:04 PM
I don't think Phelps is gonna retire now.

Oh, sure, he may take a year off, may even tell himself he's retiring, but he won't be. He'll be back.

That Guy
July 31st, 2012, 03:17 PM
Total domination by Allison Schmitt! :applaud:

P.S. the planet of the apes was earth all along

ande
July 31st, 2012, 03:47 PM
Total domination by Allison Schmitt! :applaud:
P.S. the planet of the apes was earth all along

Schmitt rocked & she's been seriously undercovered by NBCs Missy Ryan & Mikey show

Hersey swam a great 2 fly & is sitting pretty for finals

too bad for phelps in the 2 fly, so close,
he's a remarkable swimmer, when he took a break, some swimmers were training hard to catch him

Rob Copeland
July 31st, 2012, 03:53 PM
P.S. the planet of the apes was earth all alongI hope you are keeping track, so we can have a match the spoiler to the movie, once Olympics swimming is over.

That Guy
July 31st, 2012, 04:17 PM
Excellent work by our 4x200 relay, both in prelims and finals. Ricky "Haters Gonna Hate" Berens split 1:45.27.

In the 200 breast semis, I was worried about Weltz at the 150 mark, but then he passed 3 guys on the last 50 to make the final. So, uh, good job, and nice contrails.

P.S. the village is part of a modern nature reserve

That Guy
July 31st, 2012, 05:13 PM
More illegal dolphin kicking in breaststroke

http://swimswam.com/2012/07/illegal-triple-dolphin-kicks-seen-in-world-record-breaststroke-swim/

:shakeshead:

quicksilver
July 31st, 2012, 05:55 PM
I kept looking on the left side of the screen before realizing that both lanes in the camera view are doing it!

Sheesh.

Chris Stevenson
July 31st, 2012, 06:20 PM
too bad for phelps in the 2 fly, so close,
he's a remarkable swimmer, when he took a break, some swimmers were training hard to catch him

I think that's right. People might say it is because he isn't in as good as shape as before because his times are slower. While that is probably true in the 400 IM, in the 200 fly if you compare his time today in jammers to his previous times in leggings or full body suit, I'm not convinced he is really any slower.

But everyone else kept getting better -- they had someone to chase -- while Phelps didn't.

Still it was a heartbreaking swim, he had it won (until he didn't).

Has anyone noticed how many Olympic champions and WR-holders are competing in all the events? In virtually all cases they are not competing for gold and usually not even for podium spots. Once you reach the top, most lose a little of the drive that got them there.

So in that respect, Phelps is doing pretty darn well to still be in contention in his events.

Glenn
July 31st, 2012, 07:35 PM
All of the stars were in line for Phelps in Bejing. He could just as easily gotten silver in the 100 fly as gold. And if it weren't for the incredible swim by Jason Lezak, he would have had silver in the 400 free relay.

He was so pumped for Bejing!! After those Games, what else did he have to prove? Motivation is a big thing for him. After he reached all of the lofty goals he set, what else was there for him to do?

I think his competitive desire is still burning but ONLY at 1500 degrees rather than 2000 degrees that it burned in Bejing.

I had the opportunity to briefly talk with Michael at the Golden Goggles awards when they were in Los Angeles in '09. I said to him "When you are done with all this, there is always Masters Swimming".

He looked me straight in the eye and said, "When I'm done, I'm done."

What he has done to elevate our sport is worth all of the gold medals he has won.

Thank you Michael Phelps for what you have done and will continue to do for swimming!!!!!!

Lui
July 31st, 2012, 07:48 PM
I had the opportunity to briefly talk with Michael at the Golden Goggles awards when they were in Los Angeles in '09. I said to him "When you are done with all this, there is always Masters Swimming".

He looked me straight in the eye and said, "When I'm done, I'm done."

Having said that, I wonder how many ex-Olympic swimmers move on to Masters Swimming.


Thank you Michael Phelps for what you have done and will continue to do for swimming!!!!!!

:)

rxleakem
July 31st, 2012, 09:10 PM
Ande, swimswam has a nice recap of splits in pdf. It takes a while to post and you might have to hunt for it. Check this out (http://swimswam.com/2012/07/adrians-confidence-shows-in-100-free-prelims-swim-recap/).

TG: I never watched Lost. Any tips you can give?

marlenb
July 31st, 2012, 09:16 PM
Schmitt rocked & she's been seriously undercovered by NBCs Missy Ryan & Mikey show

I hate how my news ticker on my phone told me first that Franklin got fourth and then that Schmitt had won. This just seems backwards to me. I know we Americans love to celebrate a loveable hero, but Schmitt deserves her due! She's been amazing thus far!

That Guy
July 31st, 2012, 09:36 PM
TG: I never watched Lost. Any tips you can give?
The series is available on DVD.

rxleakem
July 31st, 2012, 10:23 PM
The series is available on DVD.

Worth a shot ... (http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/eduwonkette/upload/2008/06/holding_a_mirror_up_to_the_edu_1/missed-the-boat.jpg)

orca1946
July 31st, 2012, 10:27 PM
Nothing electronic till I turn on the tv & dvr . It just kills the excitement !!

rxleakem
July 31st, 2012, 10:30 PM
Nothing electronic till I turn on the tv & dvr . It just kills the excitement !!

Even radio! I gave up on the first day of finals when the AP hourly news report at work announced winners. Oh well :bump:

Glenn
July 31st, 2012, 10:31 PM
Marlenb,

I agree with you. But the media are not swimmers. They don't know Schmitt from Adam... All they know is Phelps.

I love that Brendan Hansen got third and beat Kitajima. And Grevers and Thoman went 1 - 2. And Nathan Adrian qualified 2nd in the 100 free.

But you know, my take on it is if swimming is in the news, that is a good thing!

ALM
July 31st, 2012, 10:43 PM
Having said that, I wonder how many ex-Olympic swimmers move on to Masters Swimming.


Check out our Olympians list (http://www.usms.org/hist/oly/). This is a list of all USMS members who are Olympians. There are over 300 names on the list.

That Guy
July 31st, 2012, 11:25 PM
Berens http://swimswam.com/2012/07/two-time-gold-medalist-ricky-berens-retiring-at-age-24/

jaadams1
July 31st, 2012, 11:28 PM
"I blame you, James!" - knelson

:banana:

rxleakem
July 31st, 2012, 11:44 PM
:lolup:
I was thinking the same thing! :cheerleader:

orca1946
August 1st, 2012, 12:14 AM
How cool that the 4 x 200 relay let/made Phelps the anchor :bolt:- gave him a BIG lead & they come home in 1st place !!!:applaud::banana:
He goes 1:44 mid !!:D

knelson
August 1st, 2012, 10:31 AM
Did anyone else enter the picks contest on swimswam.com? I sure wish they'd update the results! They got the first day's results up right away but haven't updated it since and now I forget who I chose in everything.

ande
August 1st, 2012, 10:52 AM
How cool that the 4 x 200 relay let/made Phelps the anchor :bolt:- gave him a BIG lead & they come home in 1st place !!!:applaud::banana:
He goes 1:44 mid !!:D

1 04 United States 6:59.70 - -
LOCHTE Ryan Reaction Time 0.67
51.17 1
1:45.15 1 53.98
DWYER Conor
2:36.05 1 50.90
3:30.38 1 54.63 1:45.53
BERENS Ricky
4:21.81 1 51.43
5:15.65 1 53.84 1:45.27
PHELPS Michael
6:06.49 1 50.84
6:59.70 1 53.21 1:44.05

2 05 France 7:02.77 +3.07 +
LEVEAUX Amaury Reaction Time 0.77
52.06 4
1:46.70 4
MALLET Gregory
2:37.70 3
3:33.53 4
LEFERT Clement
4:24.78 4
300 m 5:19.53 2
AGNEL Yannick
6:09.33 2 49.80
7:02.77 2 53.44 1:43.24

3 07 China 7:06.30 +6.60 +
HAO Yun Reaction Time 0.67
52.12 5
1:47.12 7
LI Yunqi
2:38.81 6
3:33.58 5
JIANG Haiqi
4:25.07 5
5:20.75 5
SUN Yang
6:11.04 3 50.29
7:06.30 3 55.26 1:45.55

ande
August 1st, 2012, 11:00 AM
Womens 400 IM Split comparison

1 05 YE Shiwen 4:28.43 WR VS 2 04 BEISEL Elizabeth 4:31.27 +2.84 -

050 m 0:28.85 4 28.85 - - - - - - - 050 m 0:29.52 6 29.52
100 m 1:02.19 5 33.34 - - - - - - - 100 m 1:03.10 8 33.58
150 m 1:37.53 3 35.34 - - - - - - - 150 m 1:37.62 4 34.52
200 m 2:11.73 3 34.20 - - - - - - - 200 m 2:11.28 2 33.66
250 m 2:50.53 3 38.80 - - - - - - - 250 m 2:49.74 1 38.46
300 m 3:29.75 2 39.22 - - - - - - - 300 m 3:28.94 1 39.20
350 m 3:59.50 1 29.75 - - - - - - - 350 m 4:00.46 2 31.52
Finish 4:28.43 1 28.93 - - - - - - - .Finish 4:31.27 2 30.81

vndad
August 1st, 2012, 11:15 AM
ande, I think splits are mistakenly posted as 4x100 in #368

gdanner
August 1st, 2012, 11:24 AM
Former NFL player's opinion of swimming:

http://deadspin.com/5930525/id-rather-go-through-nfl-two+a+days-or-make-myself-puke-in-the-pool-than-do-what-michael-phelps-does

knelson
August 1st, 2012, 11:36 AM
Former NFL player's opinion of swimming

"Swim practice is all inner monologue"

That was actually really good!

I bet he was a sprinter. :bolt:

ande
August 1st, 2012, 11:39 AM
ILLEGAL TRIPLE-DOLPHIN KICKS SEEN IN WORLD RECORD BREASTSTROKE SWIM
http://swimswam.com/2012/07/illegal-triple-dolphin-kicks-seen-in-world-record-breaststroke-swim/

http://vimeo.com/m/46681477

Chris Stevenson
August 1st, 2012, 11:39 AM
Former NFL player's opinion of swimming:

http://deadspin.com/5930525/id-rather-go-through-nfl-two+a+days-or-make-myself-puke-in-the-pool-than-do-what-michael-phelps-does

Great article. Growing up in San Jose (and swimming at SJA for a couple years), I remember the foggy/steamy mornings at Gunderson HS very well. And Cabana League swimming!

Fresnoid
August 1st, 2012, 11:49 AM
Great article. Growing up in San Jose (and swimming at SJA for a couple years), I remember the foggy/steamy mornings at Gunderson HS very well. And Cabana League swimming!

I remember when Gunderson first opened, thinking it looked like a prison, but how cool for a HS to have a 50 meter pool.

mctrusty
August 1st, 2012, 11:51 AM
"Swim practice is all inner monologue"

That was actually really good!

I bet he was a sprinter. :bolt:

Nate Jackson is on local radio here in Denver metro from time to time. He's usually pretty articulate and entertaining.

jaadams1
August 1st, 2012, 11:54 AM
ILLEGAL TRIPLE-DOLPHIN KICKS SEEN IN WORLD RECORD BREASTSTROKE SWIM
http://swimswam.com/2012/07/illegal-triple-dolphin-kicks-seen-in-world-record-breaststroke-swim/

http://vimeo.com/m/46681477

Breaststrokers are cheaters, this shows it. Not only one guy, but a few of them doing the same thing.

GregJS
August 1st, 2012, 12:06 PM
Blatant cheating! They should be DQ'd, no question about it.

ande
August 1st, 2012, 02:47 PM
mens 200 BR final

1 05 GYURTA Daniel 2:07.28 WR - -
50 m 29.19 2 29.19
100 m 1:01.56 2 32.37
150 m 1:34.16 1 32.60
Finish 2:07.28 WR 1 33.12


2 04 JAMIESON Michael 2:07.43 +0.15 + incredible effort
50 m 29.20 3 29.20
100 m 1:01.92 4 32.72
150 m 1:34.81 3 32.89
Finish 2:07.43 2 32.62 amazing last 50, might be the fastest ever

3 01 TATEISHI Ryo 2:08.29 +1.01 +
50 m 29.25 5 29.25
100 m 1:02.27 6 33.02
150 m 1:34.81 3 32.54
Finish 2:08.29 3 33.48


4 02 KITAJIMA Kosuke 2:08.35 +1.07 +
50 m 28.64 1 28.64
100 m 1:01.40 1 32.76
150 m 1:34.47 2 33.07
Finish 2:08.35 4 33.88


5 06 WELTZ Scott 2:09.02 +1.74 +
50 m 29.65 8 29.65
100 m 1:03.16 8 33.51
150 m 1:35.86 8 32.70
Finish 2:09.02 5 33.16


6 07 BURCKLE Clark 2:09.25 +1.97 +
50 m 29.55 7 29.55
100 m 1:02.43 7 32.88
150 m 1:35.60 7 33.17
Finish 2:09.25 6 33.65


7 08 RICKARD Brenton 2:09.28 +2.00 +
50 m 29.26 6 29.26
100 m 1:02.12 5 32.86
150 m 1:35.53 6 33.41
Finish 2:09.28 7 33.75

8 03 WILLIS Andrew 2:09.44 +2.16 +
50 m 29.21 4 29.21
100 m 1:01.82 3 32.61
150 m 1:35.03 5 33.21
Finish 2:09.44 8 34.41

Rob Copeland
August 1st, 2012, 03:04 PM
It’s somewhat surprising that Kitajima not only didn’t 3-peat, but he didn’t even medal in the 100 or 200 Breast. He has an outside shot of picking one up in the Medley relay.

SwimStud
August 1st, 2012, 03:14 PM
mens 200 BR final

1 05 GYURTA Daniel 2:07.28 WR - -

2 04 JAMIESON Michael 2:07.43 +0.15 + incredible effort

3 01 TATEISHI Ryo 2:08.29 +1.01 +

4 02 KITAJIMA Kosuke 2:08.35 +1.07 +

5 06 WELTZ Scott 2:09.02 +1.74 +

6 07 BURCKLE Clark 2:09.25 +1.97 +

7 08 RICKARD Brenton 2:09.28 +2.00 +

8 03 WILLIS Andrew 2:09.44 +2.16 +


All obscenely fast...

__steve__
August 1st, 2012, 03:22 PM
The greatest race of the olympics is going now (100free) and all I see is soccer

ande
August 1st, 2012, 03:27 PM
Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Finals & Semis Began at 7:30 pm London Time
2:30 pm Eastern
1:30 pm Central
12:30 Mountain
11:30 am Pacific

19:30 Men's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:38 Women's 100m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Backstroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
20:12 Women's 200m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 100m Freestyle – Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:27 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:41 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
21:04 Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)



Day 1 Sat Jul 28 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=28-july/all-day.html)
Men's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054900/index.html)
Women's 100m Butterfly (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/phase=sww021900/index.html)
Men's 400m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-freestyle/phase=swm014900/index.html)
Women's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054900/index.html)
Men's 100m Breaststroke (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-breaststroke/phase=swm031900/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 2 Sun Jul 29 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=29-july/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay


Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley

Women's 200m Freestyle Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Men's 200m Butterfly Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
Women's 200m Individual Medley Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
Men's 200m Freestyle Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Men's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Women's 100m Breaststroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)


Day 4 Tue Jul 31 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 100m Freestyle Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:41 Women's 200m Freestyle Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Butterfly Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
19:57 Women's 200m Butterfly Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 200m Breaststroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:43 Women's 200m Individual Medley Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:51 Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)



Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:38 Women's 100m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Backstroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
20:12 Women's 200m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 100m Freestyle – Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:27 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:41 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
21:04 Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke

19:30 Men's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals
19:40 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Final
19:48 Men's 200m Backstroke - Final
19:56 Women's 200m Backstroke - Semifinals
20:19 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Final
20:37 Women's 100m Freestyle - Final
20:54 Men's 100m Butterfly - Semifinals



Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 1500m Freestyle
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay

19:30 Women's 200m Backstroke - Final
19:38 Men's 100m Butterfly - Final
19:45 Women's 800m Freestyle - Final
20:09 Men's 50m Freestyle – Final
20:25 Women's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals



Day 8 Sat Aug 04 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=4-august/all-day.html)
Olympic Pool Swimming ends

NO PRELIMS

19:30 Women's 50m Freestyle - Final
19:36 Men's 1500m Freestyle - Final
20:07 Women's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final
20:27 Men's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final



Thu Aug 09th Womens' 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-marathon-10km/index.html)


Fri Aug 10th Men's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-marathon-10km/index.html)



2012 Olympics website (http://www.london2012.com/)


2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/index.html)

Schedule & Results (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/)

Swimming Schedule and Ticket Info (http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-gb/img/sys/tournament/london2012/oly-swimming.pdf)


Tickets (http://www.tickets.london2012.com/?camefrom=CFC_UK_LONDON2012_L2012_SIGNUPSPLASH)


Aquatics Centre (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/aquatics-centre.php)

NBC OLYMPICS (http://www.nbcolympics.com/)

NBC OLYMPICS SWIMMING (http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/index.html)

Wonder who will be wearing what suit?
Legally approved suits



NEWS

Swimming World's 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://tv.swimmingworldmagazine.com/events/2012-olympic-games)

Sports Illustrated 2012 Olympics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/)

SI 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/swimming/)

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/)



2012 USA Olympic Trials USMS forum site

ande
August 1st, 2012, 03:29 PM
Adrian Wins 47.52!!!

MAGNUSSEN James 47.53 2nd

HAYDEN Brent 47.80 3rd

AGNEL Yannick 47.84 4th

Chris Stevenson
August 1st, 2012, 03:29 PM
Adrian Wins 47.52!!!

MAGNUSSEN James 47.53 2nd

What a clutch swim!!!!!! Amazing, gutsy last 25 meters.

Couroboros
August 1st, 2012, 03:31 PM
OMG OMG OMG

I think that was my favorite swim of the Olympics so far.

Warren
August 1st, 2012, 03:32 PM
Way to go Nathan Adrian!!!!

That Guy
August 1st, 2012, 03:34 PM
Cielo was 1st at the turn and finished 6th. Too much chest-slapping?

Fantastic job by Nathan Adrian!

P.S. Kristin shot J.R.

Charge
August 1st, 2012, 03:39 PM
Can't wait to hear the call by rowdy

Lui
August 1st, 2012, 03:42 PM
Cielo was 1st at the turn and finished 6th. Too much chest-slapping?


I was wondering about this chest slapping. The other day a swimmer had a red chest. First I thought he had a bad breast shave and then I realized he kept slapping his chest.

Couroboros
August 1st, 2012, 03:43 PM
Soni just set the WR in a semi-final!

ande
August 1st, 2012, 03:45 PM
Soni just set the WR in a semi-final!

2:20.00
50 m 32.39 1 32.39
100 m 1:07.82 1 35.43
150 m 1:43.83 1 36.01
Finish 2:20.00 WR 1 36.17


LONG COURSE FINA WORLD RECORD
2:20.12 Annamay PIERSE CAN 30.07.2009 Rome, ITA

LONG COURSE FINA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS RECORD
2:20.12 Annamay PIERSE CAN 30.07.2009 Rome, ITA

LONG COURSE OLYMPIC RECORD
2:20.22 Rebecca SONI USA 15.08.2008 Beijing, CHN

That Guy
August 1st, 2012, 03:47 PM
2:20.00

LONG COURSE FINA WORLD RECORD
2:20.12 Annamay PIERSE CAN 30.07.2009 Rome, ITA

LONG COURSE FINA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS RECORD
2:20.12 Annamay PIERSE CAN 30.07.2009 Rome, ITA

LONG COURSE OLYMPIC RECORD
2:20.22 Rebecca SONI USA 15.08.2008 Beijing, CHN

After she smoked a 2:21 in prelims, I thought this might happen in the semi. Excellent work by Soni, now go get that gold medal!

P.S. Maggie Simpson shot Mr. Burns.

That Guy
August 1st, 2012, 04:21 PM
Great swims by our 4x200 women. Gold medal and Olympic record! :applaud:

P.S. Norman Bates' mother is dead. He dresses up as her and commits murders.

Rob Copeland
August 1st, 2012, 04:47 PM
By my tally 15 Americans have won swimming gold so far. Does anyone know what our greatest haul has been in the past?

:applaud:Nathan Adrian, Alyssa Anderson, Ricky Berens, Conor Dwyer, Missy Franklin(2), Matthew Grevers, Charlie Houchin, Ryan Lochte(2), Matthew McLean, Lauren Perdue, Michael Phelps, Allison Schmitt (2), Davis Tarwater, Dana Vollmer (2), Shannon Vreeland:applaud:

P.S. Will we ever find out if Rocky won?

That Guy
August 1st, 2012, 05:00 PM
P.S. Will we ever find out if Rocky won? Rocky defeated Bullwinkle in the All-Valley Karate Tournament, and then took a cruise on the S.S. Minnow. You can watch his ensuing adventures on BBC America.

ande
August 1st, 2012, 05:17 PM
Are the Chinese cheating in the Olympics?
http://www2.tricities.com/sports/2012/aug/01/are-chinese-cheating-olympics-ar-2100857/

Allen Stark
August 1st, 2012, 05:22 PM
I can't see the swims until tonight so I am following the results on line.The women's 4X200 must have been a great race,go USA!!!!

__steve__
August 1st, 2012, 05:38 PM
Nathan Adrian should medal in the 100, eh
I meant, "Ay!"

:bow::cheerleader:NATHAN ADRIAN:cheerleader::bow::carolers:

You are the fastest swimmer in the galaxy!

Wish he was doing the Top Fuel-50, maybe Tony or Cullen can fill his shoes

philoswimmer
August 1st, 2012, 05:38 PM
Great swims by our 4x200 women. Gold medal and Olympic record! :applaud:


Woo hoo!!!!!!! :cheerleader::cheerleader::cheerleader:

philoswimmer
August 1st, 2012, 05:40 PM
By my tally 15 Americans have won swimming gold so far. Does anyone know what our greatest haul has been in the past?

:applaud:Nathan Adrian, Alyssa Anderson, Ricky Berens, Conor Dwyer, Missy Franklin(2), Matthew Grevers, Charlie Houchin, Ryan Lochte(2), Matthew McLean, Lauren Perdue, Michael Phelps, Allison Schmitt (2), Davis Tarwater, Dana Vollmer (2), Shannon Vreeland:applaud:


That's one of the things I am excited about -- so many different people winning golds!!! It's fantastic to see such a strong team!!

Who shot J.R.? I never can remember, probably because I never cared in the first place.

predrag
August 1st, 2012, 05:43 PM
I think that's right. People might say it is because he isn't in as good as shape as before because his times are slower. While that is probably true in the 400 IM, in the 200 fly if you compare his time today in jammers to his previous times in leggings or full body suit, I'm not convinced he is really any slower.

But everyone else kept getting better -- they had someone to chase -- while Phelps didn't.

Still it was a heartbreaking swim, he had it won (until he didn't).

Has anyone noticed how many Olympic champions and WR-holders are competing in all the events? In virtually all cases they are not competing for gold and usually not even for podium spots. Once you reach the top, most lose a little of the drive that got them there.

So in that respect, Phelps is doing pretty darn well to still be in contention in his events.

Well, timing in butterfly (and probably breaststroke) is quite flawed because of specific velocity patterns. Phelps had all the possible luck against Milorad Cavic in Beijing in 2008 and won the race when he was obviously behind. 4 years later, luck was not on his side and he lost the race where he was obviously the fastest. I put some more thoughts on my blog at http://blog.grkovic.com/?p=397
Any comments are highly appreciated. Thanks.

ALM
August 1st, 2012, 06:02 PM
I was not aware of this rule:

Phelps Complains About Swim Cap Regulations (http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/phelps-complains-swim-cap-regulations-16812004#.UBmm7qMhsmY)

That Guy
August 1st, 2012, 06:05 PM
That's one of the things I am excited about -- so many different people winning golds!!! It's fantastic to see such a strong team!!

Who shot J.R.? I never can remember, probably because I never cared in the first place.

U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums - View Single Post - 2012 Olympics: Swimming

That Guy
August 1st, 2012, 06:08 PM
It's Lauren Perdue, by the way. I'm now a big fan. :banana:

http://now.msn.com/lebron-shot-down-by-olympic-swimmer

That Guy
August 1st, 2012, 06:11 PM
I was not aware of this rule:

Phelps Complains About Swim Cap Regulations (http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/phelps-complains-swim-cap-regulations-16812004#.UBmm7qMhsmY)

I was wondering why half of the athletes seemed to be wearing blank caps instead of national team caps... what a dumb rule.

orca1946
August 1st, 2012, 11:24 PM
Way to go SONI :applaud: world record in the semi:bow:

orca1946
August 2nd, 2012, 12:23 AM
What a very cool 4 x 200 free women's relay 1st place with an Olympic record !! Congrats ladies !!:applaud::applaud:

Charge
August 2nd, 2012, 07:47 AM
Ziegler swam an 8:37 today After going 8:21 in Omaha. Is she sick?

selkie
August 2nd, 2012, 09:00 AM
http://www.usaswimming.org/ViewNewsArticle.aspx?TabId=0&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en-US&ItemId=4636&mid=12660


"I did a lot of sleeping, and I was in the water each day, but had to cut back on what we did,” Ziegler said. “I had the flu. I woke up the next day (after the Opening Ceremonies) not feeling well, and wanted to continue everything. Then two nights ago I slept 12 or 13 hours and took two-and-a-half hour naps in the day. It's a bummer. I came into this race thinking I was going to fight and do the best I could, and that's what I did. That's all you can ask for."

philoswimmer
August 2nd, 2012, 09:22 AM
http://www.usaswimming.org/ViewNewsArticle.aspx?TabId=0&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en-US&ItemId=4636&mid=12660

Very interesting summary of statistics so far, plus a good preview for today. Thanks for posting!

knelson
August 2nd, 2012, 09:53 AM
http://now.msn.com/lebron-shot-down-by-olympic-swimmer

She's obviously a Cavaliers fan.

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 10:12 AM
U.S. swimming director steps up Chinese doping allegations (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--u-s--swimming-director-steps-up-chinese-doping-allegations.html)
By Pat Forde Yahoo! Sports – 12 hours ago

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 10:31 AM
Australia gloom after Olympic swimming 'gold hush' (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/australia-gloom-olympic-swimming-gold-hush-105317399--oly.html)

Olympic swimmer Missy Franklin inspires tragedy-hit Colorado (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-01/news/sns-rt-us-oly-swim-franklin-coloradobre87106a-20120801_1_missy-franklin-movie-theater-swimmer)Chicago Tribune


Frustration Growing Over Ticket Sales, Empty Seats and Venue Planning at London Aquatic Center (http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/World/31488.asp?q=Frustration%20Growing%20Over%20Ticket% 20Sales,%20Empty%20Seats%20and%20Venue%20Planning% 20at%20London%20Aquatic%20Center)
-- July 31, 2012


2012 London Olympics: IOC Defends Ye Shiwen (http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/World/31489.asp?q=2012%20London%20Olympics:%20IOC%20Defe nds%20Ye%20Shiwen) --
July 31, 2012


Why Michael Phelps has a Slow Start (http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/World/31487.asp?q=Why%20Michael%20Phelps%20has%20a%20Slo w%20Start)
-- July 31, 2012

Torture or training? Inside the brutal Chinese gymnasium where the country's future Olympic stars are beaten into shape (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182127/How-China-trains-children-win-gold--standing-girls-legs-young-boys-hang-bars.html?ICO=most_read_module)

vndad
August 2nd, 2012, 10:44 AM
U.S. swimming director steps up Chinese doping allegations (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--u-s--swimming-director-steps-up-chinese-doping-allegations.html)
By Pat Forde Yahoo! Sports – 12 hours ago

Isn't this the same John Leonard who is implicated in shady "non-profit" business and who is accused of harboring coaches molesting young swimmers?

http://scaq.blogspot.com/2011/05/john-leonard-of-asca-enters-scaq-blog.html

http://www.swimbrief.net/2012/07/john-leonard-cowardly-lion.html

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 11:36 AM
Now for the "Important" Olympic Swimming News


My son only has time for one-night stands': Ryan Lochte's MOTHER spills on Olympic heartthrob's bachelor lifestyle. The 27-year-old Olympian himself also revealed he prefers his women wearing his own 'long-sleeve button-down shirts and that's all' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2182157/Olympic-heartthrob-Ryan-Lochte-spills-bachelor-lifestyle.html)
By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 11:37 EST, 1 August 2012 | UPDATED: 13:17 EST, 1 August 2012


Ryan Lochte girlfriend rumors surround single athlete during 2012 Olympics (http://www.examiner.com/article/ryan-lochte-girlfriend-rumors-surround-single-athlete-during-2012-olympics)
August 1, 2012

5 Juicy Questions for Olympian Ryan Lochte
The Olympic swimmer dishes on his life (http://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/ryan-lochte)
By Kristen Dold,

Ryan Lochte special Olympic grill costs $25000 for his jeweled smile (http://www.examiner.com/article/ryan-lochte-special-olympic-grill-costs-25-000-for-his-jeweled-smile)

Lochte favors partying, hookups at Games (http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-news/2012/08/02/lochte-favors-partying-hookups-at-games/)
by Nicole Auerbach on Aug. 02, 2012, under USA TODAY News
“My last Olympics, I had a girlfriend — big mistake,”
Lochte said before the Games started.
“Now I’m single, so London should be really good. I’m excited.”


Fifty Shades of Gold: How the Australian women's swimming team are using the popular erotic novel as a relaxation tool (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2182533/Fifty-Shades-Gold-How-Australian-womens-swimming-team-using-popular-erotic-novel-relaxation-tool.html)


Always in the pool, Olympic swimmer Natalie Coughlin finds dryness a problem (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/always-in-the-pool-olympic-swimmer-natalie-coughlin-finds-dryness-a-problem/2012/08/01/gJQAtIc2OX_story.html)


LeBron James Asked An Olympic Swimmer to Dinner Last Week and Got Turned Down (http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/08/lebron-james-asked-an-olympic-swimmer-to-dinner-last-week-and-got-turned-down)
By Chris Yuscavage | Aug 1, 2012
Lauren Perdue


25 Hottest Athletes on the 2012 US Olympic Team (http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/07/the-25-hottest-athletes-on-the-2012-us-olympic-team/)


Underwater Photography at the 2012 London Games (http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/2012/08/underwater-with-michael-phelps-missy-franklin-nathan-adrian-and-more-at-the-2012-olympics/)


Bills would make Olympic medals tax-exempt (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/bills-would-make-olympic-medals-tax-exempt/2012/08/01/gJQA1uF8PX_blog.html)
Posted at 06:00 AM ET, 08/02/2012 The Washington Post

And the 2012 USA Olympic Swim Team's
"Call Me Maybe" YouTube video
has now had over 4,200,000 views
Call Me Maybe - 2012 USA Olympic Swimming Team - YouTube

tjrpatt
August 2nd, 2012, 11:40 AM
She's obviously a Cavaliers fan.

She did the non-Kristen Stewart-Jolie-Leann Rimes thing. :applaud: It looks like this year's USA swim team has morals. I guess that James forgot about his 3 kids and fiance.

Aquaholic
August 2nd, 2012, 12:20 PM
She did the non-Kristen Stewart-Jolie-Leann Rimes thing. :applaud: It looks like this year's USA swim team has morals. I guess that James forgot about his 3 kids and fiance.

Rumour is, in 2008 at Bejing, James might have been friendly with a certain swimmer who might have been a few years older than him. This swimmers' room mate might have caught them sharing an intimate moment.

tjrpatt
August 2nd, 2012, 12:55 PM
Rumour is, in 2008 at Bejing, James might have been friendly with a certain swimmer who might have been a few years older than him. This swimmers' room mate might have caught them sharing an intimate moment.

That was the 2008 team. I have an idea who might be but, I don't want to say.

tjrpatt
August 2nd, 2012, 12:58 PM
Is it me or Chad Ld Clos and Thiago Pereira look somewhat alike.

Chad should have manned up and done the 200 IM even if he isn't a medal contender. His idol, Phelps, wouldn't have scratched an event at the Olympics. He will have plenty of time to recover for the 100 fly. He is 20 for Pete's sake.

scyfreestyler
August 2nd, 2012, 01:56 PM
Now for the "Important" Olympic Swimming News


My son only has time for one-night stands': Ryan Lochte's MOTHER spills on Olympic heartthrob's bachelor lifestyle. The 27-year-old Olympian himself also revealed he prefers his women wearing his own 'long-sleeve button-down shirts and that's all' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2182157/Olympic-heartthrob-Ryan-Lochte-spills-bachelor-lifestyle.html)
By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 11:37 EST, 1 August 2012 | UPDATED: 13:17 EST, 1 August 2012



Seems an odd thing for a mother to be commenting about.

__steve__
August 2nd, 2012, 02:15 PM
Perhaps strange families make the best athletes?

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 02:41 PM
Today is a difficult day for Lochte & Franklin. Both have doubles and their efforts in their 1st race is likely to affect their ability in their 2nd race.

Thu Aug 02

M 50 FR Prelims
W 800 FR Prelims
M 100 FL Prelims Phelps
W 200 BK Prelims FRANKLIN

7:30 PM M 50 FR Semis

7:40 PM W 200 BR Final

7:48 PM M 200 BK Final Lochte

7:56 PM W 200 BK Semis FRANKLIN

8:19 PM M 200 IM Final Phelps Lochte
This is might be THE most exciting race of the swimming program. It's Lochte's difficult double. He swims the 200 BK final around 7:48 then 8:19 he races Phelps in 200 IM final. The 2 IM is Phelps first race of the night, giving him a big advantage. In the 200 BK, If Lochte is way in the lead at some point, I wonder if he'll swim his best effort for a best time or shut it down to rest up for the 2 IM?


8:37 PM W 100 FR Final FRANKLIN
this might prove to be Missy's most difficult race. At 7:56 she swims the 200 BK semi final. She can cruise it & comfortably make top 8, but it still might her 100 free a little.

8:54 PM M 100 FL Semis Phelps
This is a double for Phelps but he should be able to cruise into top 8, it's not before a final race, & resting from 8:22?? to 8:54 should be plenty.

Times will tell.

Tomorrows 100 fly final is not a given gold for phelps,
he has to hit the wall first.

Here's this mornings prelims top 8,
probably none of those swims are a best effort.

51.54 le CLOS Chad
51.72 PHELPS Michael
51.85 CZERNIAK Konrad
51.84 KOROTYSHKIN Evgeny
51.90 CAVIC Milorad
51.92 DEIBLER Steffen
51.95 McGILL Tyler
52.06 ZHOU Jiawei

Will Phelps be good enough if a few things go wrong in his race?


100 METRES BUTTERFLY MALE LC world Rankings 1/1/11 - 8/2/12

01 50.71 Phelps, Michael USA OQT 2011 FINA World Championships Shanghai CHN 24/07/2011
02 51.15 Czerniak, Konrad POL OQT 2011 FINA World Championships Shanghai CHN 24/07/2011
03 51.26 McGill, Tyler USA OQT 2011 FINA World Championships Shanghai CHN 24/07/2011
04 51.31 Sukhorukov, Alexander RUS Russian National Swimming 17/04/2012 Championships OQT Moscow RUS
05 51.45 Cavic, Milorad SRB OQT European Swimming Championships Debrecen HUN 21/05/2012
06 51.54 Le Clos, Chad RSA OQT Summer Olympic Games London 2012 London GBR 28/07/2012
07 51.59 Dunford, Jason KEN OQT 2011 FINA World Championships Shanghai CHN 24/07/2011
08 51.65 Starke, Benjamin GER OQT German Championships Berlin GER 01/06/2011
08 51.65 Lochte, Ryan USA OQT USA Olympic Team Trials Omaha USA 25/06/2012
10 51.67 Wright, Chris AUS OQT 2012 EnergyAustralia Swimming Adelaide AUS 15/03/2012
11 51.69 Phillips, Tim USA 2011 Conoco Phillips National 02/08/2011 Championships OQT Palo Alto USA
11 51.69 Fujii, Takuro JPN OQT 2011 FINA World Championships Shanghai CHN 24/07/2011
13 51.77 Cseh, Laszlo HUN OQT European Swimming Championships Debrecen HUN 21/05/2012
13 51.77 Korotyshkin, Evgeny RUS OQT 2011 FINA World Championships Shanghai CHN 24/07/2011
15 51.83 Huegill, Geoff AUS OQT 2011 FINA World Championships Shanghai CHN 24/07/2011
16 51.85 Verlinden, Joeri NED OQT Dutch Open Swim Cup Eindhoven NED 07/04/2011
17 51.86 Shields, Tom USA OQT USA Olympic Team Trials Omaha USA 5/06/2012
18 51.92 Deibler, Steffen GER OQT Summer Olympic Games London 2012 London GBR 28/07/2012
19 51.94 Tarwater, Davis USA 2011 Conoco Phillips National 02/08/2011 Championships OQT Palo Alto USA
20 51.99 Konovalov, Nikita RUS Russian National Swimming 17/04/2012 Championships OQT Moscow RUS
21 52.02 Rock, Michael GBR OQT British Gas Swimming Champs 2012 London GBR 03/03/2012
22 52.06 Zhou, Jiawei CHN OQT Summer Olympic Games London 2012 London GBR 28/07/2012
23 52.08 Skvortsov, Nikolay RUS Russian National Swimming 17/04/2012 Championships OQT Moscow RUS
24 52.09 Hadler, Jayden AUS OQT 2012 EnergyAustralia Swimming Adelaide AUS 15/03/2012
25 52.11 Almeida, Kaio BRA OQT 2011 Maria Lenk Trophy Rio De Janeiro BRA 03/05/2011

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 02:45 PM
Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)


Finals & Semis Begin at 7:30 pm London Time
2:30 pm Eastern
1:30 pm Central
12:30 Mountain
11:30 am Pacific


Prelims

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke


Finals & Semis

19:30 Men's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-50m-freestyle/index.html)

19:40 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)

19:48 Men's 200m Backstroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)

19:56 Women's 200m Backstroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-backstroke/)

20:19 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)

20:37 Women's 100m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)

20:54 Men's 100m Butterfly - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-butterfly)


~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~


Day 1 Sat Jul 28 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=28-july/all-day.html)
Men's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054900/index.html)
Women's 100m Butterfly (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/phase=sww021900/index.html)
Men's 400m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-freestyle/phase=swm014900/index.html)
Women's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054900/index.html)
Men's 100m Breaststroke (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-breaststroke/phase=swm031900/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 2 Sun Jul 29 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=29-july/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay


Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley

Women's 200m Freestyle Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Men's 200m Butterfly Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
Women's 200m Individual Medley Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
Men's 200m Freestyle Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Men's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Women's 100m Breaststroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)


Day 4 Tue Jul 31 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 100m Freestyle Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:41 Women's 200m Freestyle Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Butterfly Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
19:57 Women's 200m Butterfly Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 200m Breaststroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:43 Women's 200m Individual Medley Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:51 Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:38 Women's 100m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Backstroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
20:12 Women's 200m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 100m Freestyle – Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:27 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:41 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
21:04 Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke

19:30 Men's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-50m-freestyle/index.html)
19:40 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:48 Men's 200m Backstroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
19:56 Women's 200m Backstroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-backstroke/)
20:19 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:37 Women's 100m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:54 Men's 100m Butterfly - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-butterfly)


Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 1500m Freestyle
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay

19:30 Women's 200m Backstroke - Final
19:38 Men's 100m Butterfly - Final
19:45 Women's 800m Freestyle - Final
20:09 Men's 50m Freestyle – Final
20:25 Women's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals


Day 8 Sat Aug 04 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=4-august/all-day.html)
Olympic Pool Swimming ends

NO PRELIMS

19:30 Women's 50m Freestyle - Final
19:36 Men's 1500m Freestyle - Final
20:07 Women's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final
20:27 Men's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final



Thu Aug 09th Women's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-marathon-10km/index.html)


Fri Aug 10th Men's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-marathon-10km/index.html)


2012 Olympics website (http://www.london2012.com/)


2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/index.html)

Schedule & Results (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/)

Swimming Schedule and Ticket Info (http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-gb/img/sys/tournament/london2012/oly-swimming.pdf)


Tickets (http://www.tickets.london2012.com/?camefrom=CFC_UK_LONDON2012_L2012_SIGNUPSPLASH)


Aquatics Centre (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/aquatics-centre.php)

NBC OLYMPICS (http://www.nbcolympics.com/)

NBC OLYMPICS SWIMMING (http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/index.html)

Wonder who will be wearing what suit?
Legally approved suits



NEWS

Swimming World's 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://tv.swimmingworldmagazine.com/events/2012-olympic-games)

Sports Illustrated 2012 Olympics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/)

SI 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/swimming/)

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/)


2012 USA Olympic Trials USMS forum site

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 02:55 PM
50 Semi Results

JONES Cullen 21.54
CIELO Cesar 21.54
ERVIN Anthony 21.62
FRATUS Bruno 21.63
BOVELL George Richard 21.77
MANAUDOU Florent 21.80
SCHOEMAN Roland 21.88
SULLIVAN Eamon 21.88
interesting 1 & 2nd & 7th & 8th tied


W 200 BR FINAL

1 04 SONI Rebecca 2:19.59 WR - -
Time Rank Split
50 m 32.49 2 32.49
100 m 1:08.10 1 35.61
150 m 1:43.95 1 35.85
Finish 2:19.59 WR 1 35.64
-

2 03 SUZUKI Satomi 2:20.72 =AS +1.13 -
Time Rank Split
50 m 32.53 3 32.53
100 m 1:08.64 3 36.11
150 m 1:44.67 2 36.03
Finish 2:20.72 2 36.05


3 06 EFIMOVA Iuliia 2:20.92 EU +1.33 -
Time Rank Split
50 m 33.43 7 33.43
100 m 1:09.61 7 36.18
150 m 1:45.43 5 35.82
Finish 2:20.92 3 35.49


4 05 PEDERSEN Rikke 2:21.65 +2.06 +
Time Rank Split
50 m 32.91 5 32.91
100 m 1:09.26 5 36.35
150 m 1:45.19 3 35.93
Finish 2:21.65 4 36.46



5 01 McCABE Martha 2:23.16 +3.57 +
Time Rank Split
50 m 33.01 6 33.01
100 m 1:09.55 6 36.54
150 m 1:46.21 7 36.66
Finish 2:23.16 5 36.95


6 07 LAWRENCE Micah 2:23.27 +3.68 -
50 m 32.65 4 32.65
100 m 1:09.04 4 36.39
150 m 1:46.08 6 37.04
Finish 2:23.27 6 37.19

That Guy
August 2nd, 2012, 02:57 PM
Way to go Rebecca Soni! :cheerleader:

P.S. The Titanic hits an iceberg and then sinks.

Rob Copeland
August 2nd, 2012, 02:58 PM
Lochte… backed off or died???

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 03:01 PM
200 BK final
Lochte shocked me
Great for Clary

1 04 USA CLARY T 1:53.41
56.01 (3) 1:24.93 (2) 1:53.41 +1 OR
killer 3rd & 4th 50's 28.92 28.48
has anyone ever swum a faster laster 50 in the 200 bk

2 06 JPN IRIE R 1:53.78
55.85 (2) 1:25.04 (3) 1:53.78
(0.37) +1

3 05 USA LOCHTE R 1:53.94
55.63 (1) 1:24.81 (1) 1:53.94

That Guy
August 2nd, 2012, 03:02 PM
Lochte… backed off or died???
The splits don't tell either of those tales. EXCELLENT SWIM BY TYLER CLARY! :applaud:

P.S. Clark Kent is Superman.

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 03:02 PM
Lochte… backed off or died???
not sure
he might be in trouble in the 200 IM

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 03:14 PM
Franklin won 2nd heat of Semifinals 2 2:06.84 1 2nd to
Elizabeth BEISEL 2:06.18
sitting pretty for the 2bk tomorrow now missy has 1 fr final

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 03:16 PM
The splits don't tell either of those tales. EXCELLENT SWIM BY TYLER CLARY! :applaud:
P.S. Clark Kent is Superman.

Headlines for the 200 bk will read:
Clary Bouyant gets Gold, Lochte Shocked Me
Lochte settles for Bronze minutes before his historic show down with Michael Phelps in the 200 IM

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 03:29 PM
03 PHELPS Michael
Final 1 1:54.27 1 -
Semifinals 1 1:57.11 2 0.98
Heats 4 1:58.24 2 0.02


04 LOCHTE Ryan
Final 1 1:54.90 2 0.63
Semifinals 1 1:56.13 1 -
Heats 5 1:58.03 1

CSEH Laszlo
Final 1 1:56.22

PEREIRA Thiago
Final 1 1:56.74 4 2.47

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 03:39 PM
Why are our sweats Gray, Black, & Lime Green?
What's wrong with Red White & Blue?

Couroboros
August 2nd, 2012, 03:40 PM
It's ridiculous. They look like Soviet anti-radiation suits or something.

That Guy
August 2nd, 2012, 03:43 PM
03 PHELPS Michael
Final 1 1:54.27 1 -
Semifinals 1 1:57.11 2 0.98
Heats 4 1:58.24 2 0.02


04 LOCHTE Ryan
Final 1 1:54.90 2 0.63
Semifinals 1 1:56.13 1 -
Heats 5 1:58.03 1

CSEH Laszlo
Final 1 1:56.22

PEREIRA Thiago
Final 1 1:56.74 4 2.47

Gold-Silver sweep for USA! :banana:

Great job by both swimmers. Other people can debate legacies and all that garbage.

P.S. Bruno is a really terrible movie. Don't see it. Ever.

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 03:45 PM
200 IM Splits

1 03 PHELPS Michael 1:54.27 Vs 2 04 LOCHTE Ryan 1:54.90 +0.63 +
050 m 24.63 1 24.63 .......................... 50 m 24.79 2 24.79
100 m 53.26 1 28.63 .......................... 100 m 53.89 3 29.10
150 m 1:26.59 1 33.33 .......................... 150 m 1:27.37 3 33.48
Finish 1:54.27 1 27.68 .......................... Finish 1:54.90 2 27.53
MP nipped RL in fly then buried him in back,
nipped him in BR, then held up in Free.


3 05 CSEH Laszlo 1:56.22 +1.95 +
50 m 25.03 3 25.03
100 m 54.85 5 29.82
150 m 1:27.96 4 33.11
Finish 1:56.22 3 28.26

4 06 PEREIRA Thiago 1:56.74 +2.47 +
50 m 25.20 6 25.20
100 m 53.59 2 28.39
150 m 1:27.29 2 33.70
Finish 1:56.74 4 29.45

5 02 HAGINO Kosuke 1:57.35 +3.08 +
50 m 25.83 8 25.83
100 m 54.96 6 29.13
150 m 1:29.28 6 34.32
Finish 1:57.35 5 28.07

6 07 TAKAKUWA Ken 1:58.53 +4.26 +
50 m 25.49 7 25.49
100 m 55.33 7 29.84
150 m 1:29.80 8 34.47
Finish 1:58.53 6 28.73

7 01 GODDARD James 1:59.05 +4.78 +
50 m 25.16 5 25.16
100 m 54.23 4 29.07
150 m 1:29.03 5 34.80
Finish 1:59.05 7 30.02


8 08 DEIBLER Markus 1:59.10 +4.83 +
50 m 25.03 3 25.03
100 m 55.93 8 30.90
150 m 1:29.55 7 33.62
Finish 1:59.10 8 29.55

needs a sixbeat
August 2nd, 2012, 03:56 PM
https://www.youswim.com.br/watch_video.php?v=X9HBRWYA7M3N

Thank you!!

TRYM_Swimmer
August 2nd, 2012, 04:06 PM
Excellent article:

http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/swimming/story/_/id/8222675/michael-phelps-slower-better-icon

gobears
August 2nd, 2012, 04:17 PM
Excellent article:

http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/swimming/story/_/id/8222675/michael-phelps-slower-better-icon

That was excellent. Thanks for posting!

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 04:27 PM
Anyone notice that the head shot photos american swimmers on London2012.com were poor to terrible.

Take a look at:

Lochte & Phelps (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)

Franklin (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)

Beisel (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/index.html)

Vollmer (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/index.html)

Soni (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)

Lauren Perdue (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/perdue-lauren-1131782/)

Hersey (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/hersey-kathleen-1134754/)

Adams (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/adams-cammile-1131846/)

At least Allison Schmitt's (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/schmitt-allison-1133648/) is one of the better ones &
her warmth comes across.


My guess is these pics were used on their Athlete IDs. They look like the subjects were given little warning, shot by an ameteur early in the morning before practice, then thrown together in a hurry at the last second.

No Make Up.
No Pro photog
Poor Lighting
No Photo Shop
Blank expressions most with little emotion from the subjects
They also lack uniformity on how much of the swimmers face is featured. Some are up close, some are futher back.


Now on the other hand
Aliaksandra HERASIMENIA (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html) who got 2nd in the 100 free, her pic looks model gorgeous. Is she Katherine McPhee's (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=katharine+mcphee&gbv=2&gs_l=hp.1.0.0i10j0l9.1979.4846.0.7246.13.12.1.0.0. 0.125.1248.4j8.12.0...0.0...1c.Sqw-DCN1AIk&sa=X&oi=image_result_group) long lost sister?

Which leads me to believe USA Olympic Swimming shot ours and turned them in as opposed to all athletes being processed in their first day at the Olympics like students getting their Student IDs.

Rob Copeland
August 2nd, 2012, 04:48 PM
By my tally 15 Americans have won swimming gold so far. Does anyone know what our greatest haul has been in the past?

:applaud:Nathan Adrian, Alyssa Anderson, Ricky Berens, Conor Dwyer, Missy Franklin(2), Matthew Grevers, Charlie Houchin, Ryan Lochte(2), Matthew McLean, Lauren Perdue, Michael Phelps, Allison Schmitt (2), Davis Tarwater, Dana Vollmer (2), Shannon Vreeland:applaud:Now 17 Americans have won swimming gold so far and there is a very good chance to add at least 5 more (men’s 400 MR) and maybe 4 more in the women’s relay.

Nathan Adrian, Alyssa Anderson, Ricky Berens, Tyler Clary, Conor Dwyer, Missy Franklin(2), Matthew Grevers, Charlie Houchin, Ryan Lochte(2), Matthew McLean, Lauren Perdue, Michael Phelps (2), Allison Schmitt (2), Rebecca Soni, Davis Tarwater, Dana Vollmer (2), Shannon Vreeland

SwimStud
August 2nd, 2012, 05:16 PM
Aliaksandra HERASIMENIA (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html) who got 2nd in the 100 free, her pic looks model gorgeous. Is she Katherine McPhee's (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=katharine+mcphee&gbv=2&gs_l=hp.1.0.0i10j0l9.1979.4846.0.7246.13.12.1.0.0. 0.125.1248.4j8.12.0...0.0...1c.Sqw-DCN1AIk&sa=X&oi=image_result_group) long lost sister?

I think you're getting a little excited there Ande...

The Fortress
August 2nd, 2012, 05:19 PM
Headlines for the 200 bk will read:
Clary Bouyant gets Gold, Lochte Shocked Me
Lochte settles for Bronze minutes before his historic show down with Michael Phelps in the 200 IM

Lochte hasn't been the same swimmer since they had him anchor the 400 FR. :(

selkie
August 2nd, 2012, 05:33 PM
Phelps has said his Olympic photo was taken about 30 seconds after Bob Bowman woke him up from a nap when NBAC was at a Colorado training camp.

It's actually kind of impressive how bad Lauren Perdue's picture is because she has such a gorgeous face.

SwimStud
August 2nd, 2012, 05:35 PM
Lochte hasn't been the same swimmer since they had him anchor the 400 FR. :(
Yeah he looked Fochte after that race...
:D

Frank Thompson
August 2nd, 2012, 05:40 PM
Now 17 Americans have won swimming gold so far and there is a very good chance to add at least 5 more (men’s 400 MR) and maybe 4 more in the women’s relay.

Nathan Adrian, Alyssa Anderson, Ricky Berens, Tyler Clary, Conor Dwyer, Missy Franklin(2), Matthew Grevers, Charlie Houchin, Ryan Lochte(2), Matthew McLean, Lauren Perdue, Michael Phelps (2), Allison Schmitt (2), Rebecca Soni, Davis Tarwater, Dana Vollmer (2), Shannon Vreeland

This is interesting and always brings up debate because old timers didn't have as many events and they did not get credit for prelim swimmers swimming in relays. The 1948 Men's Olympic team won every gold medal in the Men's events. The problem is there were only 6 Men's events.

The Men's 1976 Olympic team won every event except the 200 Breast and won both Men's Relays but again they had one less relay (400 Free Relay) and they had one less event (200 IM) plus there swimmers did not get credit for swimming the prelims in the relay and that would be many swimmers since the USA won the both Men's relays and the Women won the only event of those Olympics in the 400 Free Relay and had one swimmer in the prelims that did not swim in the finals. Both the Men's 400 Medley and 800 Free Relays had 5 swimmers that did not get gold medals in other events and swam prelims only in the relay and were not awarded medals.

The awarding of medals for prelim swimmers in relays started in 1984, so that should be the starting point of comparison today. That was a boycotted Olympics so the USA would have more medals than other Olympics for that reason. They did not have a 50 Free event for both Men & Women and there was no Women's 800 Free relay. With that being said that team had 31 total swimmers receive 49 Gold Medals.

The breakdown for the 1984 team is 13 Women winning 23 Gold medals and 18 Men winning 26 Gold Medals for the total of 49. That team won all 5 relays that were offered at that time and no swimmer won more than 3 gold medals and there were 6 swimmers that accomplished that.

The only other Olympic team that comes close to the 1984 Olympic team in the 1996 team that competed in Atlanta. Both of those teams were at home and that has to be some advantage. The 1996 team was in a non boycott Olympics but compared to 1984 had one extra event (50 Free) and had the Women's 800 Free Relay which was making its first appearance at an Olympics. This was the only Olympics where the USA team won all 6 relays and that has not been done since. With that being said, that is going to help the gold medal total because of all those relays.

The 1996 team had 31 swimmers win 45 gold medals. The breakdown for the 1996 team is 15 Women winning 23 Gold medals and 16 Men winning 22 Gold Medals for the total of 45. Amy Van Dyken won 4 Gold Medals and Jenny Thompson and Josh Davis won 3 Gold Medals and both swimmers received them in all 3 relays.

So the 2012 team has its work cut out for them to get to 31 swimmers and between 45 and 49 Gold Medals.

tjrpatt
August 2nd, 2012, 07:23 PM
Lochte hasn't been the same swimmer since they had him anchor the 400 FR. :(

This didn't happen right? I am stunned by the 200 back results. Phelps had the right amount of rest to win the 200 IM. Lochte struggled for that silver. Poor guy. At least, Lazlo fought for bronze after a disappointing 400 IM and 200 fly. I think that Phelps will win the 100 fly. He looked great tonight. I want to see 2 US medals in the 50 free and 100 fly.

After what I saw in the 100 free, have Alison Schmitt anchor the medley relays, please!

How about the Russian woman who for bronze in the 200 breast! :applaud::applaud::applaud:

That Guy
August 2nd, 2012, 07:48 PM
This didn't happen right? I am stunned by the 200 back results. Phelps had the right amount of rest to win the 200 IM. Lochte struggled for that silver. Poor guy. We got two swimmers on the podium in each of those events. I'm not complaining one bit. And I guess the 2IM puts Phelps in the 3peat club along with Dawn Fraser and Krisztina Egerszegi.

P.S. Dil is a man

Maui Mike
August 2nd, 2012, 09:18 PM
Relays don't count towards a "three peat?"

tjrpatt
August 2nd, 2012, 09:25 PM
Relays don't count towards a "three peat?"

Lochte and Phelps were both on the last 3 Olympic 4 x 200 relays. I guess not because no one in the press brought that up.

swimcat
August 2nd, 2012, 10:35 PM
Ande,
I think these are the athlete ID pix. When I worked at the Torino Winter Games, they shoved me up against a white wall and took my picture after jet lag and a 10 hour flight. Yikes i thought mine was bad. Ouch:)
Wow look like mug shots








Take a look at:

Lochte & Phelps (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)

Franklin (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)

Beisel (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/index.html)

Vollmer (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/index.html)

Soni (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)

Lauren Perdue (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/perdue-lauren-1131782/)

Hersey (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/hersey-kathleen-1134754/)

Adams (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/adams-cammile-1131846/)

At least Allison Schmitt's (http://www.london2012.com/athlete/schmitt-allison-1133648/) is one of the better ones &
her warmth comes across.


My guess is these pics were used on their Athlete IDs. They look like the subjects were given little warning, shot by an ameteur early in the morning before practice, then thrown together in a hurry at the last second.

No Make Up.
No Pro photog
Poor Lighting
No Photo Shop
Blank expressions most with little emotion from the subjects
They also lack uniformity on how much of the swimmers face is featured. Some are up close, some are futher back.


Now on the other hand
Aliaksandra HERASIMENIA (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html) who got 2nd in the 100 free, her pic looks model gorgeous. Is she Katherine McPhee's (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=katharine+mcphee&gbv=2&gs_l=hp.1.0.0i10j0l9.1979.4846.0.7246.13.12.1.0.0. 0.125.1248.4j8.12.0...0.0...1c.Sqw-DCN1AIk&sa=X&oi=image_result_group) long lost sister?

Which leads me to believe USA Olympic Swimming shot ours and turned them in as opposed to all athletes being processed in their first day at the Olympics like students getting their Student IDs.[/QUOTE]

swimcat
August 2nd, 2012, 10:38 PM
Take a lookat Li X in the picture next to Beisel. Looks like she has an adam's apple.

swimcat
August 2nd, 2012, 10:41 PM
Lochte hasn't been the same swimmer since they had him anchor the 400 FR. :(

He looks like he either missed his taper or is in shock. Too bad. Nice guy.:sad::shakeshead::shakeshead:

orca1946
August 2nd, 2012, 11:34 PM
Phelps was ahead in all 4 strokes !!!!!

That Guy
August 2nd, 2012, 11:36 PM
Swimming versus Gymnastics: The Last Final Battle of Finalness Concluded

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8225426/dr-jack-breakdown-swimming-vs-gymnastics

orca1946
August 2nd, 2012, 11:40 PM
Gabby wins all around GOLD :applaud:
Good for her & U S A :cheerleader:

jaadams1
August 2nd, 2012, 11:41 PM
How about the Men's 50 Free semis? Elaine, I didn't see any posting by you about Cullen Jones yet. :kiss1:

:bolt:


Both he and Ervin did well in the top 3 seeded for finals. :applaud:

ande
August 2nd, 2012, 11:56 PM
Originally Posted by The Fortress
Lochte hasn't been the same swimmer since they had him anchor the 400 FR.
Yeah he looked Fochte after that race...

Lochte had the toughest schedule,
He's tired.
I'd like him to race a 200 IM against Phelps in a time trial, on Tue or Wed when both are rested relaxed & fresh

TRYM_Swimmer
August 2nd, 2012, 11:57 PM
How about the Men's 50 Free semis?

It's great to see a Masters National Champion in the Olympic Finals! I guess we know which medal he covets more! It was a great treat to see the big three with their coach in Greensboro.

Go Cullen!!!!!!!

jaadams1
August 3rd, 2012, 12:35 AM
OK NBC!!????? :bitching:

Quote (at least pretty close) from the broadcast on TV prior to commercial:

"Rebecca Soni, New Jersey native, training in California, has achieved Gold in her 200 Meter Breaststroke Final. And coming up after this, we'll show it to you."

WTF?????

Especially for those who don't want to know ahead of time before viewing it on tv at night??

Grrrrrrrr!!!!!! :bitching:

knelson
August 3rd, 2012, 02:18 AM
He looks like he either missed his taper or is in shock. Too bad. Nice guy.:sad::shakeshead::shakeshead:

Hate to say it and I guess it's schadenfreude, but I think Lochte deserved to get knocked down a peg or two. He came into these Games with just a little too much bluster.

tjrpatt
August 3rd, 2012, 08:18 AM
Hate to say it and I guess it's schadenfreude, but I think Lochte deserved to get knocked down a peg or two. He came into these Games with just a little too much bluster.

Overall, it was a touch schedule to pull off successfully. Well, at least, he got 2 more golds. I don't think that he needed to be knocked down. In swimming, sometimes it is not about who put the more work in. It just might be more about who is the freshest to put in the best performance. If he trains for Rio, he will have to tweak some things in his training. He could be too bulked up for swimming. Also, he have to drop an event or two. Or, Florida might to tweak their program.

Frank Thompson
August 3rd, 2012, 09:43 AM
Overall, it was a touch schedule to pull off successfully. Well, at least, he got 2 more golds. I don't think that he needed to be knocked down. In swimming, sometimes it is not about who put the more work in. It just might be more about who is the freshest to put in the best performance. If he trains for Rio, he will have to tweak some things in his training. He could be too bulked up for swimming. Also, he have to drop an event or two. Or, Florida might to tweak their program.

According to the latest reports, Lochte is going to move to Los Angeles after the Olympics so Florida will not have to do anything. That means he will swim for maybe Salo or Fullerton, if they still have a group. Tyler Clary is leaving that area and moving back to Michigan to train in Ann Arbor and finish his college degree at Univ. of Michigan.

Both of Lochte and Clary were on the Today Show this morning and Ryan was questioned about how successful he felt he did at these Olympics. He said he was proud of his 5 medals and he worked real hard the last 4 years and said he though it was hard on him he plans on doing it again in preparation for Rio.

Ryan was reminded that he told Matt Lauer that he said he wanted the headlines to read he took over the Olympics back 4 weeks ago after trials and Matt asked him if he think he accomplished that? He said he will let the press decide and did not answer the queston.

When Tyler Clary was interviewed, he was just boasting with confidence. He said he will swim the next 4 years and has plans to swim in Rio and that this gold medal that he won is the answer to all of the hard work that he has put in the last 4 years and that can never be taken away from him. Nothing was asked or said about comments about Michael Phelps work ethic and I think that has now died.

With Michael Phelps retiring you might think it would be easier for Ryan in the future but it will not be with the presence of Tyler Clary and that is the next big rivalry in swimming. They cross in 2 events (200 Back and 400 IM) and might cross in two others (200 IM and 200 Fly) but its highly unlikely in the 200 Fly because Lochte has not swam that event much but maybe the 200 IM but Clary has stayed away from that event and if that is on the Olympic program as a final on the same day, then he will not do the 200 IM.

This kind of reminds me of when Ryan Lochte beat Aaron Peirsol in the 200 Back in 2007 and again in 2008 and this maybe a changing of the guard in this event. We will have to wait and see.

knelson
August 3rd, 2012, 09:46 AM
He could be too bulked up for swimming.

I don't think he looks bulky. He's comparable to lots of the other guys if you throw out people like Irie!

That Guy
August 3rd, 2012, 09:50 AM
Now for the "Important" Olympic Swimming News


My son only has time for one-night stands': Ryan Lochte's MOTHER spills on Olympic heartthrob's bachelor lifestyle. The 27-year-old Olympian himself also revealed he prefers his women wearing his own 'long-sleeve button-down shirts and that's all' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2182157/Olympic-heartthrob-Ryan-Lochte-spills-bachelor-lifestyle.html)
By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 11:37 EST, 1 August 2012 | UPDATED: 13:17 EST, 1 August 2012



http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/olympics/article/dr_ruth_is_also_creeped_out_by_ryan_lochtes_mom_an d_her_sons_one_night_stands/11364910

:lmao:

Celestial
August 3rd, 2012, 09:51 AM
I think Troy has been a great coach for Ryan for several years now, but mixing it up & going to California just might be what he needs. A fresh perspective & different training regimen might be just what the doctor ordered - after all at the next Olympics he will be what? almost 32 years old? I know how hard it is for me to race people who are 10 years younger - at that level, it's got to be just as hard. The older we get, the more "little things" can interfere with your training & racing performance. My heart just goes out to him on that 200 backstroke. I think he did extremely well on the 2 IM, all considering - and he's certainly beat Phelps in major competitions in that event in the past. Yesterday just wasn't his day. :(

Chris Stevenson
August 3rd, 2012, 09:51 AM
Overall, it was a touch schedule to pull off successfully. Well, at least, he got 2 more golds. I don't think that he needed to be knocked down. In swimming, sometimes it is not about who put the more work in. It just might be more about who is the freshest to put in the best performance. If he trains for Rio, he will have to tweak some things in his training. He could be too bulked up for swimming. Also, he have to drop an event or two. Or, Florida might to tweak their program.

Possibly he just missed his taper, tho that doesn't explain his very good 400 IM. Maybe losing at the end of the relay just rattled his confidence enough to slow him down a little.

Other than the 400 IM, he was faster a year ago at Wolds, right? (I don't remember if he did 200 back, but he was def faster in the 200 IM and free.)

knelson
August 3rd, 2012, 10:02 AM
Possibly he just missed his taper, tho that doesn't explain his very good 400 IM.

But even in that event he tightened up at the end. Of course let's keep in mind this was hardly a disaster for Lochte. Obviously it wasn't the meet he hoped to have, but he did medal in all his events except the 200 free. He was just a tad off.

Last year at Worlds he was 1:52.96 in the 200 back and 1:54.00 in the IM. This year 1:53.94 and 1:54.90, but those two events were not on the same night last year. Also keep in mind the stroke 50s are contested at Worlds, so that makes the finals sessions slightly longer.

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 10:08 AM
Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

Finals & Semis Begin at 7:30 pm London Time
2:30 pm Eastern
1:30 pm Central
12:30 Mountain
11:30 am Pacific


PRELIMS

Women's 50m Freestyle

Men's 1500m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-1500m-freestyle/index.html)

Women's 4x100m Medley Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-medley-relay/index.html)

Men's 4x100m Medley Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x100m-medley-relay/index.html)

FINALS & SEMIS

19:30 Women's 200m Backstroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-backstroke/)

19:38 Men's 100m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-butterfly)

19:45 Women's 800m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-800m-freestyle/index.html)

20:09 Men's 50m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-50m-freestyle/index.html)

20:25 Women's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-50m-freestyle/index.html)



~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~


Day 1 Sat Jul 28 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=28-july/all-day.html)
Men's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054900/index.html)
Women's 100m Butterfly (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/phase=sww021900/index.html)
Men's 400m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-freestyle/phase=swm014900/index.html)
Women's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054900/index.html)
Men's 100m Breaststroke (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-breaststroke/phase=swm031900/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 2 Sun Jul 29 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=29-july/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay


Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley

Women's 200m Freestyle Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Men's 200m Butterfly Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
Women's 200m Individual Medley Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
Men's 200m Freestyle Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Men's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Women's 100m Breaststroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)


Day 4 Tue Jul 31 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 100m Freestyle Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:41 Women's 200m Freestyle Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Butterfly Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
19:57 Women's 200m Butterfly Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 200m Breaststroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:43 Women's 200m Individual Medley Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:51 Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:38 Women's 100m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Backstroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
20:12 Women's 200m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 100m Freestyle – Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:27 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:41 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
21:04 Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke

19:30 Men's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-50m-freestyle/index.html)
19:40 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:48 Men's 200m Backstroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
19:56 Women's 200m Backstroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-backstroke/)
20:19 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:37 Women's 100m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:54 Men's 100m Butterfly - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-butterfly)


Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 1500m Freestyle
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay

19:30 Women's 200m Backstroke - Final
19:38 Men's 100m Butterfly - Final
19:45 Women's 800m Freestyle - Final
20:09 Men's 50m Freestyle – Final
20:25 Women's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals


Day 8 Sat Aug 04 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=4-august/all-day.html)
Olympic Pool Swimming ends

NO PRELIMS

19:30 Women's 50m Freestyle - Final
19:36 Men's 1500m Freestyle - Final
20:07 Women's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final
20:27 Men's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final



Thu Aug 09th Women's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-marathon-10km/index.html)


Fri Aug 10th Men's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-marathon-10km/index.html)


2012 Olympics website (http://www.london2012.com/)


2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/index.html)

Schedule & Results (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/)

Swimming Schedule and Ticket Info (http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-gb/img/sys/tournament/london2012/oly-swimming.pdf)


Tickets (http://www.tickets.london2012.com/?camefrom=CFC_UK_LONDON2012_L2012_SIGNUPSPLASH)


Aquatics Centre (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/aquatics-centre.php)

NBC OLYMPICS (http://www.nbcolympics.com/)

NBC OLYMPICS SWIMMING (http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/index.html)

Wonder who will be wearing what suit?
Legally approved suits



NEWS

Swimming World's 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://tv.swimmingworldmagazine.com/events/2012-olympic-games)

Sports Illustrated 2012 Olympics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/)

SI 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/swimming/)

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/)


2012 USA Olympic Trials USMS forum site

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 10:14 AM
Here was the line up for the womens 4 x 100 Medley Prelims

4 04 United States 3:58.88 +3.46 -
BOOTSMA Rachel Reaction Time 0.60
Split Time Rank
50 m 28.78 2
100 m 59.70 3
LARSON Breeja Split Time Rank
150 m 1:31.07 3
200 m 2:06.36 3
DONAHUE Claire Split Time Rank
250 m 2:32.91 3
300 m 3:04.41 4
HARDY Jessica Split Time Rank
350 m 3:30.25 3
Finish 3:58.88 4

Since Missy Franklin made the 100 bk & 100 fr & USA is likely to put her in back on the relay.
it opens up another slot.

Wonder if Allison Schmitt will anchor tonight or if Hardy will?
100 Free Results from 2012 OTs (http://www.omegatiming.com/File/Download?id=00010C010201001502FFFFFFFFFFFF02)

tjrpatt
August 3rd, 2012, 10:14 AM
Possibly he just missed his taper, tho that doesn't explain his very good 400 IM. Maybe losing at the end of the relay just rattled his confidence enough to slow him down a little.

Other than the 400 IM, he was faster a year ago at Wolds, right? (I don't remember if he did 200 back, but he was def faster in the 200 IM and free.)

He was 1:44.44 at Worlds in the 200 free and he still has the world record in the 200 IM after last night. However, he was at world record pace for the for first 300 of the 400 IM. Although it was a personal best for him, maybe he did miss his taper. 5 Medals is still pretty impressive. 6 Top 4 paces.

That Guy
August 3rd, 2012, 10:19 AM
The men's 400 medley relay prelims played out very similarly to how they did in Shanghai last year, except that the logjam number was 3:34 today rather than 3:36 then.

2011: http://www.omegatiming.com/File/Download?id=00010B0D0067000000FFFFFFFFFFFF01

2012: http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x100m-medley-relay/phase=swm451900/doc=summary.html

Amazingly, the list of countries that just missed the top 8 is exactly the same as last year! Hungary jumped way up to take Poland's spot in the top 8, and Poland dropped down. Other than that, 2012 is basically a faster repeat of 2011.

P.S. That Guy keeps typing spoilers.

knelson
August 3rd, 2012, 11:21 AM
P.S. That Guy keeps typing spoilers.

The 'girl' in the Crying Game is really a guy (but not That Guy)!!

Sojerz
August 3rd, 2012, 11:29 AM
Comparing finishing 2nd (Lochte in the 4x100) or 3rd (Hansen in the 100 br). That is the question? see link to NPR:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetorch/2012/08/03/157835076/would-you-rather-win-silver-or-bronze-be-careful-what-you-wish-for

Warren
August 3rd, 2012, 11:52 AM
The US women have a chance at the medley relay wr

The current wr is
3:52.19
(58.98)
(1:04.12)
(56.28)
(52.81)

If everyone swims well, they have a shot.
Franklin- 58.3
Soni- 1:05.0
Volmer- 55.5
Schmitt- 53.2
=3:52.00

I think Soni and Volmer have a little more to give than their individual performances. Australia will be challenging the US for gold and hopefully that pushes the US to break the world record. It would be a fantastic way to end the meet.

Karl_S
August 3rd, 2012, 11:55 AM
Comparing finishing 2nd (Lochte in the 4x100) or 3rd (Hansen in the 100 br). That is the question? see link to NPR:...
I would expect that 20 years later, the silver medalists are quite happy with the performance, but those that finished 4th are still really really annoyed. -just a thought.

Frank Thompson
August 3rd, 2012, 12:19 PM
[QUOTE=Sojerz;272575]Comparing finishing 2nd (Lochte in the 4x100) or 3rd (Hansen in the 100 br). That is the question? see link to NPR:

I think you have to look at the athletes situation and how he is performing at the time of competition. Brenden Hansen should be really happy winning the bronze medal because a lot of people counted him out to get to the podium and he beat that man that has given him nightmares in the last 2 Olympics. To compare this same bronze medal to the bronze medal that Brenden Hansen won in the 200 Breast at 2004 Olympics and its different. He was not happy losing to Kitajimi and Gyurta because he was the Number 1 swimmer in the World and the World Record holder before the final started.

In contrast, Ryan Lochte was in first place in the 400 Free Relay and because he was caught he felt he let his teammates down. If he would have been behind, maybe, just maybe he wouldn't be so disappointed.

Now there is not a swimmer on earth with his skills and abilities that would not be disappointed in getting a bronze in the 200 Back especially with his history in this event in the last 6 years. The 200 IM is hard to figure because he didn't have time to analyze what went wrong if anything and he had to get himself up to swim Phelps.

Phelps was under pressure to win his first individual gold and be the first male to 3 peat. This was his third opportunity to do this and he didn't want this to slip away. I honestly don't think Ryan was as disappointed in this effort as he was in the 200 Back and I don't think it was because he got a higher medal (silver). I think he would have been disappointed in a silver also in the 200 Back. He let an opportunity slip away to defend his Olympic Championship and now he has to deal with Clary and Irie in future to get back on top in this event.

philoswimmer
August 3rd, 2012, 12:24 PM
Comparing finishing 2nd (Lochte in the 4x100) or 3rd (Hansen in the 100 br). That is the question? see link to NPR:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetorch/2012/08/03/157835076/would-you-rather-win-silver-or-bronze-be-careful-what-you-wish-for

Or 5th in the 200 breaststroke (Scott Weltz) when your college swimming program has been cancelled (UC Davis) and no one thought you'd make the Olympics at all? It's too easy to lose sight of how amazing all of these swimmers are!

That Guy
August 3rd, 2012, 01:47 PM
The 'girl' in the Crying Game is really a guy (but not That Guy)!!

Thank you for that clarification to yesterday's spoiler :D

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 01:48 PM
Lochte's Moving to LA (http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/USA/31401.asp)

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 02:34 PM
Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html) Finals & Semis are about to begin.

Finals & Semis Begin at 7:30 pm London Time
2:30 pm Eastern
1:30 pm Central
12:30 Mountain
11:30 am Pacific


PRELIMS

Women's 50m Freestyle

Men's 1500m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-1500m-freestyle/index.html)

Women's 4x100m Medley Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-medley-relay/index.html)

Men's 4x100m Medley Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x100m-medley-relay/index.html)

FINALS & SEMIS

19:30 Women's 200m Backstroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-backstroke/)

19:38 Men's 100m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-butterfly)

19:45 Women's 800m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-800m-freestyle/index.html)

20:09 Men's 50m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-50m-freestyle/index.html)

20:25 Women's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-50m-freestyle/index.html)



~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~


Day 1 Sat Jul 28 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=28-july/all-day.html)
Men's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054900/index.html)
Women's 100m Butterfly (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-butterfly/phase=sww021900/index.html)
Men's 400m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-freestyle/phase=swm014900/index.html)
Women's 400m Individual Medley (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054900/index.html)
Men's 100m Breaststroke (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-breaststroke/phase=swm031900/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Freestyle Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 2 Sun Jul 29 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=29-july/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle Relay


Day 3 Mon Jul 30 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=30-july/all-day.html)

Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 200m Individual Medley

Women's 200m Freestyle Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Men's 200m Butterfly Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
Women's 200m Individual Medley Semis (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
Men's 200m Freestyle Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Men's 100m Backstroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-backstroke/index.html)
Women's 100m Breaststroke Finals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-breaststroke/index.html)


Day 4 Tue Jul 31 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=31-july/all-day.html)

Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 100m Freestyle Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:41 Women's 200m Freestyle Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Butterfly Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-butterfly/index.html)
19:57 Women's 200m Butterfly Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 200m Breaststroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:43 Women's 200m Individual Medley Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:51 Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 5 Wed Aug 01 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=1-august/all-day.html)

Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay

19:30 Men's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:38 Women's 100m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
19:49 Men's 200m Backstroke Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
20:12 Women's 200m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-butterfly/index.html)
20:20 Men's 100m Freestyle – Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:27 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
20:41 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
21:04 Women's 4x200m Freestyle Relay - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x200m-freestyle-relay/index.html)


Day 6 Thu Aug 02 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=2-august/all-day.html)

Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 200m Backstroke

19:30 Men's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-50m-freestyle/index.html)
19:40 Women's 200m Breaststroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-breaststroke/index.html)
19:48 Men's 200m Backstroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-backstroke/index.html)
19:56 Women's 200m Backstroke - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-backstroke/)
20:19 Men's 200m Individual Medley - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-200m-individual-medley/index.html)
20:37 Women's 100m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-100m-freestyle/index.html)
20:54 Men's 100m Butterfly - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-butterfly)


Day 7 Fri Aug 03 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=3-august/all-day.html)

PRELIMS

Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 1500m Freestyle (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-1500m-freestyle/index.html)
Women's 4x100m Medley Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-4x100m-medley-relay/index.html)
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-4x100m-medley-relay/index.html)

FINALS & SEMIS

19:30 Women's 200m Backstroke - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-200m-backstroke/)
19:38 Men's 100m Butterfly - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-100m-butterfly)
19:45 Women's 800m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-800m-freestyle/index.html)
20:09 Men's 50m Freestyle - Final (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-50m-freestyle/index.html)
20:25 Women's 50m Freestyle - Semifinals (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-50m-freestyle/index.html)



Day 8 Sat Aug 04 (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/day=4-august/all-day.html)
Olympic Pool Swimming ends

NO PRELIMS

19:30 Women's 50m Freestyle - Final
19:36 Men's 1500m Freestyle - Final
20:07 Women's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final
20:27 Men's 4x100m Medley Relay - Final


Thu Aug 09th Women's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-marathon-10km/index.html)


Fri Aug 10th Men's 10k (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-marathon-10km/index.html)


2012 Olympics website (http://www.london2012.com/)


2012 Olympic Swimming (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/index.html)

Schedule & Results (http://www.london2012.com/swimming/schedule-and-results/)

Swimming Schedule and Ticket Info (http://media.ticketmaster.com/en-gb/img/sys/tournament/london2012/oly-swimming.pdf)


Tickets (http://www.tickets.london2012.com/?camefrom=CFC_UK_LONDON2012_L2012_SIGNUPSPLASH)


Aquatics Centre (http://www.london2012.com/games/venues/aquatics-centre.php)

NBC OLYMPICS (http://www.nbcolympics.com/)

NBC OLYMPICS SWIMMING (http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/index.html)

Wonder who will be wearing what suit?
Legally approved suits



NEWS

Swimming World's 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://tv.swimmingworldmagazine.com/events/2012-olympic-games)

Sports Illustrated 2012 Olympics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/)

SI 2012 Olympic Swimming (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2012/swimming/)

ESPN (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/)

2012 USA Olympic Trials USMS forum site

That Guy
August 3rd, 2012, 02:44 PM
:bow: AWESOME SWIM MISSY FRANKLIN :bow:
P.S. "Rhett Butler doesn't give a damn." - Jim Matysek

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 02:50 PM
Womens 2 BK FINAL

1 05 FRANKLIN Missy 2:04.06 WR
Time Rank Split
50 m 29.53 1 29.53
100 m 1:00.50 1 30.97
150 m 1:32.16 1 31.66
Finish 2:04.06 WR 1 31.90

2 06 ZUEVA Anastasia 2:05.92 +1.86 +
Time Rank Split
50 m 29.93 4 29.93
100 m 1:01.89 3 31.96
150 m 1:34.21 2 32.32
Finish 2:05.92 2 31.71

3 04 BEISEL Elizabeth 2:06.55 +2.49 +
Time Rank Split
50 m 30.12 6 30.12
100 m 1:02.04 4 31.92
150 m 1:34.40 4 32.36
Finish 2:06.55 3 32.15

4 01 SIMMONDS Elizabeth 2:07.26 +3.20 +
Time Rank Split
50 m 29.74 2 29.74
100 m 1:01.77 2 32.03
150 m 1:34.34 3 32.57
Finish 2:07.26 4 32.92

5 03 NAY Meagen 2:07.43 +3.37 +
Time Rank Split
50 m 30.23 8 30.23
100 m 1:02.45 6 32.22
150 m 1:34.93 5 32.48
Finish 2:07.43 5 32.50

6 07 COVENTRY Kirsty 2:08.18 +4.12 +
Time Rank Split
50 m 30.06 5 30.06
100 m 1:02.16 5 32.10
150 m 1:34.99 6 32.83
Finish 2:08.18 6 33.19

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 02:59 PM
right now the Medal counts for Swimming are:

PL G + S + B = T
1. 13 07 06 26 United States of America
2. 04 02 03 09 People's Republic of China
3. 03 02 01 06 France

That Guy
August 3rd, 2012, 03:00 PM
:banana:KATIE LEDECKY, I AM RUNNING OUT OF STUFF TO PUT IN HUGE TEXT :banana:
Gold medal and American record! Amazing!

P.S. Marty McFly is the main character in Back To The Future

Chris Stevenson
August 3rd, 2012, 03:00 PM
NBC would be crazy not to show that whole 800 free. What a great swim, SO CLOSE to the WR.

Frank Thompson
August 3rd, 2012, 03:02 PM
If NBC does not show the whole 800 Free tonight they are insane. They should be able to show swimming for 9 to 10 minutes without interruption.

ourswimmer
August 3rd, 2012, 03:03 PM
NBC would be crazy not to show that whole 800 free. What a great swim, SO CLOSE to the WR.

And a great race overall. (Also, for those interested in technique, a nice opportunity to compare kicking strategies: one strict two-beat, one strict six-beat, one 3/1.)

ScienceGeek
August 3rd, 2012, 03:06 PM
I'm really hoping that Cullen Jones wins the 50 free so the US can make a clean sweep today in swimming gold medals!:banana:

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 03:07 PM
1 03 LEDECKY Katie 8:14.63 AM - -

050 m 0:28.39 1 28.39
100 m 0:58.81 2 30.42
150 m 1:29.01 1 30.20
200 m 1:59.95 1 30.94

250 m 2:30.82 1 30.87
300 m 3:02.10 1 31.28
350 m 3:33.02 1 30.92
400 m 4:04.34 1 31.32

450 m 4:35.55 1 31.21
500 m 5:07.11 1 31.56
550 m 5:38.39 1 31.28
600 m 6:10.02 1 31.63

650 m 6:41.38 1 31.36
700 m 7:12.81 1 31.43
750 m 7:44.13 1 31.32
800 m 8:14.63 1 30.50

Chris Stevenson
August 3rd, 2012, 03:08 PM
They didn't do it on the first day for some reason, but on every day since then NBC has been posting the full video from finals (link on "full replay"):

http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/results-schedules/index.html

No commentators, which can be a good or a bad thing. In past days when I couldn't watch streaming I would watch these, they were usually posted before the primetime broadcast.

Frank Thompson
August 3rd, 2012, 03:09 PM
I'm really hoping that Cullen Jones wins the 50 free so the US can make a clean sweep today in swimming gold medals!:banana:

I fine with either Cullen or Anthony. Will Cesar be able to repeat?

Frank Thompson
August 3rd, 2012, 03:12 PM
1 03 LEDECKY Katie 8:14.63 AM - -

050 m 0:28.39 1 28.39
100 m 0:58.81 2 30.42
150 m 1:29.01 1 30.20
200 m 1:59.95 1 30.94

250 m 2:30.82 1 30.87
300 m 3:02.10 1 31.28
350 m 3:33.02 1 30.92
400 m 4:04.34 1 31.32

450 m 4:35.55 1 31.21
500 m 5:07.11 1 31.56
550 m 5:38.39 1 31.28
600 m 6:10.02 1 31.63

650 m 6:41.38 1 31.36
700 m 7:12.81 1 31.43
750 m 7:44.13 1 31.32
800 m 8:14.63 1 30.50

Wow! That means Janet Evans is now off the American Record books. This was the last to go down of those great records.

That Guy
August 3rd, 2012, 03:18 PM
OK, anybody who says they saw that coming is probably lying! Manaudou made the French team as a dark horse and now won the gold medal as a dark horse out of lane 7. But 21.34 is a great time, no doubt about that.

Silver medal for Cullen Jones! :applaud:

P.S. McDonald's is a large chain of restaurants.

Rob Copeland
August 3rd, 2012, 03:19 PM
I fine with either Cullen or Anthony. Will Cesar be able to repeat?I don't think so.

ScienceGeek
August 3rd, 2012, 03:20 PM
OK, anybody who says they saw that coming is probably lying! Manaudou made the French team as a dark horse and now won the gold medal as a dark horse out of lane 7. But 21.34 is a great time, no doubt about that.

Silver medal for Cullen Jones! :applaud:
Grr. I missed the race because of stupid Firefox/NBC/internet fails. :bitching:
So happy for Cullen Jones though!

rxleakem
August 3rd, 2012, 03:23 PM
Silver medal for Cullen Jones! :applaud:

:woot:

__steve__
August 3rd, 2012, 03:29 PM
I fine with either Cullen or Anthony. Will Cesar be able to repeat?
Same here. It's hard to tell however if Cesar is truly in a funk, or just taking his steps to something very spectacular. He cut things a little close for the latter, but from what I viewed of his start in slow motion, his form is as flawless as ever

edited, for below
I should have purchased a television for the Olympics

ande
August 3rd, 2012, 03:31 PM
M 50 FR

1 07 MANAUDOU Florent 21.34 - +

2 05 JONES Cullen 21.54 +0.20 +

3 04 CIELO Cesar 21.59 +0.25 +

4 06 FRATUS Bruno 21.61 +0.27 +

5 03 ERVIN Anthony 21.78 +0.44 +

6 08 SCHOEMAN Roland 21.80 +0.46 +

7 02 BOVELL George Richard 21.82 +0.48 +

8 01 SULLIVAN Eamon 21.98 +0.64 +

rxleakem
August 3rd, 2012, 03:54 PM
edited, for below
I should have purchased a television for the Olympics

No TV here, either. Following online updates and I'll catch the swimming later. :banana:
A TV would be nice, though. :hug: