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Karlene
February 17th, 2011, 05:03 PM
Been racing in a B70 NeroTX. Six meets and twelve competition days. On the second day of the meet at Auburn, it started to show those white frayed thinning areas in the chest, crotch and back seam. So it's obviously on its way out.

I have taken good care of it. Always rinsing in clear water after each day, not taking it on and off too much, always hanging immediately to dry, never leaving wadded up in my swim bag.

Now that we've been racing in the new generation of suits since July, I was curious about other's experience with their suits. What brand are you wearing and how has it held up? Is my suit life typical or have your suits lasted longer?

Dolphin 2
February 17th, 2011, 06:42 PM
Tech suits are to make more $$$ for the suit companies and it's a typical case of planned obsolecence.
The faster they wear out, the more money they make. :bump:
D2

Karlene
February 17th, 2011, 08:13 PM
Unlike D2, can anyone provide a USEFUL response?

Chris Stevenson
February 17th, 2011, 08:22 PM
You'll probably find responses from females more useful, but I find my Tyr Tracer Light jammers pretty durable. I use them for 4-5 meets before I replace them, and they would probably last longer. I don't take care of them as well as I should.

I've also tried a pair of FINIS jammers (the HydroSpeed 2). I like the fit and comfort (and price) quite a bit, but I don't think they are as durable as the Tyr and they don't give as much compression either.

Good luck.

tjrpatt
February 17th, 2011, 09:23 PM
I found that I could get Spring yards meets and summer LCM meets with one tyr Tracer Light. Of course, I don't use them for every meet. For inseason meets, I just use practice suits.

As much I like the Tracer Light, I am curious about getting an Arena suit. I use the 34 Tracer Light and it fits perfectly. The Speedo fastskin of the same size is a little loose on the thighs

swimshark
February 18th, 2011, 08:00 AM
Tom, I don't know about the new Area suits but a friend has an older one and he really liked it. He wore it for several meets before it became stretched a bit.

chowmi
February 18th, 2011, 10:35 AM
This is such a qualitative discussion - how long a suit "lasts" depends on what you think that means - until it rips, starts to ripple from material stretch, see-throughness, etc.....

The main issue I see with attempting to give you ONE answer to your question is that there is VARIANCE among suits, even same brand same model. It is the luck of the draw if you blow out the seam on the first wearing, or if it lasts you as much as you have worn yours and beyond.

I currently have 5 kneeskins, Speedo FS Pro (1), Speedo LZR Elite (3), and 1 BS (latest model). They have ranged from 3 meets & a tear to a full season and going strong (albeit somewhat stretched out), and one with tags just ready to be worn!!!

My recommendation is to get multiple suits and rotate them. You don't wear the same pair of shoes everyday, right? So rotate at least 2 suits at a time.

I personally wear the "lastest" suits at every sanctioned meet. I see no reason to signal that I am not ready or waiting to wear a "faster" suit. You wait for the laundry spin cycle and checks to clear, but not for opportunities to swim fast at any meet! If you wait until you're ready, you'll never be ready.

And i'd like to head Dophin 2 off right now. I am a bit tired of hearing ad nauseum (sp) his well-known dislike of tech suits and the $$$ involved. The $$$ is unambiguous, you just have to budget your $$, and suits are something I think are worthwhile TO ME to spend lots of $$$ on.

knelson
February 18th, 2011, 10:56 AM
The main issue I see with attempting to give you ONE answer to your question is that there is VARIANCE among suits, even same brand same model. It is the luck of the draw if you blow out the seam on the first wearing, or if it lasts you as much as you have worn yours and beyond

This is interesting because I've never blown out a seam on a racing suit. Seam blowouts are always death knell for my training suits, but not the ones I race in. I guess I retire them before they get to that point. Also I suppose women's suits have a little bit more seam to blow out than men's do. I'm also in the camp that only wears expensive suits at taper meets.

The Fortress
February 18th, 2011, 11:25 AM
This is such a qualitative discussion - how long a suit "lasts" depends on what you think that means - until it rips, starts to ripple from material stretch, see-throughness, etc.....

The main issue I see with attempting to give you ONE answer to your question is that there is VARIANCE among suits, even same brand same model. It is the luck of the draw if you blow out the seam on the first wearing, or if it lasts you as much as you have worn yours and beyond.

I currently have 5 kneeskins, Speedo FS Pro (1), Speedo LZR Elite (3), and 1 BS (latest model). They have ranged from 3 meets & a tear to a full season and going strong (albeit somewhat stretched out), and one with tags just ready to be worn!!!

My recommendation is to get multiple suits and rotate them. You don't wear the same pair of shoes everyday, right? So rotate at least 2 suits at a time.

I personally wear the "lastest" suits at every sanctioned meet. I see no reason to signal that I am not ready or waiting to wear a "faster" suit. You wait for the laundry spin cycle and checks to clear, but not for opportunities to swim fast at any meet! If you wait until you're ready, you'll never be ready.

And i'd like to head Dophin 2 off right now. I am a bit tired of hearing ad nauseum (sp) his well-known dislike of tech suits and the $$$ involved. The $$$ is unambiguous, you just have to budget your $$, and suits are something I think are worthwhile TO ME to spend lots of $$$ on.

I've had pretty much the same experience and definitely use the same approach -- I only wear "tech" suits at meets and rotate them.

Karlene, I don't think I'd expect these suits to last much more than 6 meets. As Chowmi points out, they may not be falling apart, but they will get very stretched out, especially if you're in them all day. I've got a LZR Elite (my preferred suit) that's lasted many meets, but I've also had a rip or tear on nails/pull buoy, etc. on day 1. Interestingly, and unlike the real tech suits, I've never had a total blowout in the kneeskins.

swimshark
February 18th, 2011, 12:30 PM
I personally wear the "lastest" suits at every sanctioned meet. I see no reason to signal that I am not ready or waiting to wear a "faster" suit. You wait for the laundry spin cycle and checks to clear, but not for opportunities to swim fast at any meet! If you wait until you're ready, you'll never be ready.


I agree. I wear a tech suit at all meets. Why just wait for the "right" meet. It might pass you by while you are waiting. Of course, my tech suit is a TYR Aquapel that I've been wearing since Nationals lat May. It's stretched out but since I'm still getting PB's in it, why bother hanging it up now?!

gdanner
February 18th, 2011, 01:50 PM
This is such a qualitative discussion - how long a suit "lasts" depends on what you think that means - until it rips, starts to ripple from material stretch, see-throughness, etc.....


I agree. Additionally, what was the "in water" time versus sitting on deck? I don't write it down, but I keep track of my suits by total number of minutes that I've worn them in the water. Most of the suits are treated with a water repellent chemical that goes away far before the suit falls apart. When the water stops beading off the suit, I relegate it to smaller meets/open water/postal events.

I rarely warm up using a tech suit to save on its race time.

knelson
February 18th, 2011, 02:23 PM
I agree. I wear a tech suit at all meets. Why just wait for the "right" meet. It might pass you by while you are waiting.

I know from experience I'm just not going to swim close to best times unless I'm shaved and tapered. I applaud those who can swim best times in season, but I'm definitely not one of them. The rubber suits were a different story. With those I could just get in and swim fast any time. Not so with textile jammers.

Jazz Hands
February 18th, 2011, 02:44 PM
You'll probably find responses from females more useful, but I find my Tyr Tracer Light jammers pretty durable. I use them for 4-5 meets before I replace them, and they would probably last longer. I don't take care of them as well as I should.

I've used my Tracer Light jammer at a ton of meets and it hasn't gotten stretched or worn out at all. I ripped a little hole in a seam during the first meet, but the stitching is good and the hole hasn't gotten bigger.

That Guy
February 18th, 2011, 03:22 PM
I've used my Tracer Light jammer at a ton of meets and it hasn't gotten stretched or worn out at all. I ripped a little hole in a seam during the first meet, but the stitching is good and the hole hasn't gotten bigger.

Ditto, without the tear. My Tyr Tracer Light jammer is holding up very well after 6 meets. My old Tyr Tracer Light leggings are in good shape too; although I don't know what I'll ever use them for, I haven't thrown them away.

Amy T
February 18th, 2011, 04:14 PM
All of these posts seem to be talking about one or two suits. Yeah, the LZR or tracer are really good, but what about others?

The one I really want to know about is the yingfa sharkskin. Do they last for a few meets? Are they worth the $30? I don't have the budget for a suit much more expensive, but if it'll be useless after one swim, it's not worth the difference in price when I race perfectly well in a tight practice suit.

Karlene
February 18th, 2011, 04:19 PM
I know from experience I'm just not going to swim close to best times unless I'm shaved and tapered. I applaud those who can swim best times in season, but I'm definitely not one of them.

Kirk, agree with you here. I will wear a tech suit if I'm in a larger meet at a fast pool like Auburn but still don't anticipate swimming close to my shaved and tapered times.


Karlene, I don't think I'd expect these suits to last much more than 6 meets. As Chowmi points out, they may not be falling apart, but they will get very stretched out, especially if you're in them all day.

I was suspecting that six meets may be about the limit. My suit is still plenty snug but it was uncomfortably tight when I first wore it back in May.


And i'd like to head Dophin 2 off right now. I am a bit tired of hearing ad nauseum (sp) his well-known dislike of tech suits and the $$$ involved. The $$$ is unambiguous, you just have to budget your $$, and suits are something I think are worthwhile TO ME to spend lots of $$$ on.

Amen, Michelle! I had already purchased a second kneeskin a month ago in anticipation of my current one wearing out. I figure I can get one or two more local meets out of the disintigrating suit. I'll be purchasing yet another tech suit so that I always have two in good condition on hand. Compared to other sports, a few tech suits per year is a minor investment. It's my money and my choice to maximize my training efforts with a decent suit.

Chris Stevenson
February 18th, 2011, 04:25 PM
I've never used the Yingfa but Patrick Brundage has:

http://forums.usms.org/blog.php?b=13499

Unfortunately he didn't know about durability, which is your main question. I don't know if he has been following this thread but maybe he can chime in (or you can PM him and report back to us). I know he has a meet this weekend.

What I will say, is that I will take a durable but more expensive suit over a cheap piece of junk any day b/c it will be cheaper (and more convenient) in the long run. The ones you want to avoid, obviously, are those expensive pieces of fluff that last only a meet or two.

Fit/comfort are perhaps just as important to me as durability and price. If the thing doesn't fit well, or is painful to wear, I don't want it. I don't like distractions come race time.

jaadams1
February 18th, 2011, 05:05 PM
I've never used the Yingfa but Patrick Brundage has:

http://forums.usms.org/blog.php?b=13499

Unfortunately he didn't know about durability, which is your main question. I don't know if he has been following this thread but maybe he can chime in (or you can PM him and report back to us). I know he has a meet this weekend.

What I will say, is that I will take a durable but more expensive suit over a cheap piece of junk any day b/c it will be cheaper (and more convenient) in the long run. The ones you want to avoid, obviously, are those expensive pieces of fluff that last only a meet or two.

Fit/comfort are perhaps just as important to me as durability and price. If the thing doesn't fit well, or is painful to wear, I don't want it. I don't like distractions come race time.

I got a Yingfa suit also, and have used it for my past 2 meets, and it seems to be doing just fine. I like the feel of it in the water, my times were fast, but that's not only the suit. Lots of hard work has gone into training this swimming machine. :bow: I'll be using it again on Sunday. Heck...for $33, it's great!!! I'd rather pay that for a suit than spend hundreds on another suit that will last just the same amount of time and/or give the same effect in the water. I'm not shooting for any National records/Olympics/etc., so a $33 suit that holds up well and feels fast works for me. :applaud:

jaadams1
February 18th, 2011, 05:07 PM
I know from experience I'm just not going to swim close to best times unless I'm shaved and tapered. I applaud those who can swim best times in season, but I'm definitely not one of them. The rubber suits were a different story. With those I could just get in and swim fast any time. Not so with textile jammers.

BTW...You gonna be "shaved and tapered" for Sunday...???? Hmmmmm.... :bliss:

If not...that's okay too. :applaud:

orca1946
February 18th, 2011, 05:35 PM
I will look into Yingfa for my size - a 38 in speedo. Would that be a xxl or xxxl?

arthur
February 18th, 2011, 05:56 PM
All of these posts seem to be talking about one or two suits. Yeah, the LZR or tracer are really good, but what about others?

The one I really want to know about is the yingfa sharkskin. Do they last for a few meets? Are they worth the $30? I don't have the budget for a suit much more expensive, but if it'll be useless after one swim, it's not worth the difference in price when I race perfectly well in a tight practice suit.
I have a a Yingfa Jammer. I have worn it at 5 meets, 8 total days going back to April last year. I don't think it has noticeably deteriorated. It is probably slightly stretched but it has held up well. I haven't worn any other tech suits so I can't compare it to anything. As it was cheaper than my training suit I have no complaints!

Amy T
February 19th, 2011, 07:23 AM
I had a friend's yingfa kneeskin rip this first time she put it on, but it was a seam rip, so could be easily repaired. Other than that, it sounds like they're good suits. Thanks, guys, I think I'll invest the $30-ish. At that price, I don't think I'll be super disappointed if it fails. I just don't have the money for much more.

want2beafish
February 19th, 2011, 09:26 AM
I rotate between the B70 Nero TX and the Speedo LZR Elite. The first time I wore both suits was last summer at LCM Nats. I've worn each for four meets, about an equal amount of swim each; I have worn the Speedo for the 800/mile as it is slightly more comfortable for me than the B70. I like both suits, but I have noticed that the B70 is somewhat more durable in terms of keeping its shape than the Speedo. The B70 still has a couple of meets left in it, but I'm just about ready to retire the Speedo to secondary meets. Six meets of many swims for the B70 actually seems pretty reasonable to me. I'm not sure the LZR would have lasted that long. When they were both brand new, I liked the Speedo a little bit better than the B70.

I'm curious to try or hear feedback regarding the Tracer B series.

couldbebetterfly
February 19th, 2011, 12:45 PM
I had a friend's yingfa kneeskin rip this first time she put it on, but it was a seam rip, so could be easily repaired. Other than that, it sounds like they're good suits. Thanks, guys, I think I'll invest the $30-ish. At that price, I don't think I'll be super disappointed if it fails. I just don't have the money for much more.

Let us know what you think. I could do with a second racing suit, right now I have a TYR kneeskin, which is fine, but I find Speedo in general is a better fit than TYR on me. However I can't justify the Speedo $$ just yet. I'm interested to know if these fit more like a Speedo, as they use them as a comparison size, but am a litte put off by the sizings of say "26-28" and "28-30" - which to get if you want a 28 yk?

jaadams1
February 19th, 2011, 02:09 PM
Let us know what you think. I could do with a second racing suit, right now I have a TYR kneeskin, which is fine, but I find Speedo in general is a better fit than TYR on me. However I can't justify the Speedo $$ just yet. I'm interested to know if these fit more like a Speedo, as they use them as a comparison size, but am a litte put off by the sizings of say "26-28" and "28-30" - which to get if you want a 28 yk?

FYI:
For the Yingfa suits (at least the male version), I ordered a Large size, which says 28-30, and it fits pretty good. In other Speedo/TYR brand suits I've been using a 30.

couldbebetterfly
February 19th, 2011, 06:01 PM
FYI:
For the Yingfa suits (at least the male version), I ordered a Large size, which says 28-30, and it fits pretty good. In other Speedo/TYR brand suits I've been using a 30.

Thanks - it might be slightly different for us girlies though - see my TYR is a 30 and very easy to get on, so I if I were to get another one I would definitely go to a 28. However I still have an old size 30 Speedo with zipper back that is a really snug fit - this one might be a kids size :laugh2:. Also my TYR endurance is bigger on my shoulders than my Speedo endurance and they're both supposedly 34! I'll see what Amy reports, or maybe buy one in each size & return one.:dunno: