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ddskier63
October 25th, 2011, 04:09 PM
Anyone planning to attend Nationals in Omaha? If it wasn't for the venue, I would swim at SCY Nationals. You got to admit, competing in the Olympic Trials pool merely a few hours after Ryan Lochte and Michael Phelps made a splash is awesome!

That Guy
October 25th, 2011, 04:12 PM
I'm planning to be there.

Allen Stark
October 25th, 2011, 05:14 PM
Weird things happen,so no guarantees,but I already have my hotel room.I wouldn't be surprised if this was the biggest LCM Nats ever.

The Fortress
October 25th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Weird things happen,so no guarantees,but I already have my hotel room.I wouldn't be surprised if this was the biggest LCM Nats ever.

Likewise on the hotel. But I'm not sure it will be the biggest ever. Early July is not an ideal date. Not much time for long course training and smack in the middle of the summer swim season if you have kids. Also, for people with families, adding in trials is way too many days away. On the other hand, it is in the center of the country.

ande
March 28th, 2012, 10:27 AM
I hope to go
haven't entered yet

2012 Marriott Summer Nationals (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/)
Omaha, Nebraska
Thu Jul 5 - Sun 8, 2012

Meet Flyer (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/flyer.pdf)

Meet Information (http://www.usms.org/content/lcnats12meetinfo)

Order of Events (http://www.usms.org/comp/meetevents.php?MeetID=20120705LCNATSL)

Online Entry (https://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/onlineentry.php)
Online registration will close at midnight CDT on May 31, 2012.
The meet surcharge increases from $50 to $60 on May 9

Entry Form (PDF) (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/meetsheet.pdf)

Qualifying Times (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/nqt.pdf)

Travel Information (http://www.usms.org/content/lcnats12travel)

JimRude
March 28th, 2012, 01:26 PM
it is in the center of the country.

A euphemism for a "fly-over" state...

poolraat
March 28th, 2012, 01:48 PM
I've booked a hotel room but haven't yet booked flights or done my meet entry. But I am definitely going. My 19 year old son will also be going with me so I'm really looking forward to this meet. We had a lot of fun together in Mesa last year.

Rob Butcher
March 28th, 2012, 02:39 PM
If you are on the fence about attending the Summer Nationals... we will have autographed memorabilia from the Olympic team that will be given away during the Summer Nationals. If you are legal age, adult beverages will be available at the concession stands.

If come out for the Trials, stop by and visit our USMS exhibit in the AquaZone. While we won't have the biggest or most expensive exhibit, we will have the most fun exhibit with our USMS backstroke flags set up for "goggle toss" to win prizes.

... Rob

knelson
March 28th, 2012, 04:17 PM
we will have the most fun exhibit with our USMS backstroke flags set up for "goggle toss" to win prizes.

That's awesome, Rob. People are going to love that!

Calvin S
March 28th, 2012, 05:02 PM
My only issue is getting a decently priced flight (which was difficult when I was trying 6 months ago and earlier). Not only are the Olympic Trials going on during that time, but its the 4th weekend and the College World Series too.

Still on the fence myself.

jaadams1
March 28th, 2012, 06:41 PM
If you are legal age, adult beverages will be available at the concession stands.


New bonus event should be added to the lineup...6 pack 50 Free. :afraid:
Gather all competitors into a single room from which they cannot leave. Approximately 1 hour before the start of the race, hand out six :chug: to everyone, which must be completed prior to the race. Then after everything settles into place. Line 'em up, and watch 'em go!! :applaud:

sickfish
March 29th, 2012, 10:09 AM
New bonus event should be added to the lineup...6 pack 50 Free.

If this is the final event, sign me up!

knelson
March 29th, 2012, 10:22 AM
Gather all competitors into a single room from which they cannot leave. Approximately 1 hour before the start of the race, hand out six :chug: to everyone, which must be completed prior to the race. Then after everything settles into place. Line 'em up, and watch 'em go!! :applaud:

Drinkers could easily do a 50 free with no visible difference after drinking a six pack. A better event would be something like a 200 free where you have to guzzle a beer at each wall before continuing. Now that would separate the men from the boys! Somehow I doubt USMS would officially endorse either event, though.

couldbebetterfly
March 29th, 2012, 03:00 PM
Drinkers could easily do a 50 free with no visible difference after drinking a six pack. A better event would be something like a 200 free where you have to guzzle a beer at each wall before continuing. Now that would separate the men from the boys! Somehow I doubt USMS would officially endorse either event, though.

Or perhaps 200 back, where not only do you have to drink the beer, but then must balance the empty can on your forehead for the next length?

Donna
March 31st, 2012, 08:58 PM
Reservations made, entry in. Aging up is great! Watch out 50+ I am ready to join you!

ande
May 30th, 2012, 10:56 AM
Who alls going to LCM Nats?
I entered & plan on going.

Is there going to be a meet social?
It would probably be Saturday night

Let's do a Forum Dinner at Nationals
Would y'all prefer Thu, Fri, or Sun night?
We'll pick a close spot, walking distance from the pool.
Set the time for 6:30 or 7:00 or after relays are done if we pick a relay day
What do y'all think?
Who's in?



2012 Marriott Summer Nationals (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/)
Omaha, Nebraska
Thu Jul 5 - Sun 8, 2012

Meet Flyer (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/flyer.pdf)

Meet Information (http://www.usms.org/content/lcnats12meetinfo)

Order of Events (http://www.usms.org/comp/meetevents.php?MeetID=20120705LCNATSL)

Online Entry (https://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/onlineentry.php)
Online registration will close at midnight CDT on May 31, 2012.
The meet surcharge increases from $50 to $60 on May 9

Entry Form (PDF) (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/meetsheet.pdf)

Qualifying Times (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/nqt.pdf)

Travel Information (http://www.usms.org/content/lcnats12travel)

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

USA Swimming Olympic Trials* June 25 - July 2, 2012

Swim Clinic with Olympians Rowdy Gaines and Misty Hyman July 4, 2012

Myrtha Pools tour and warm up July 4, 2012

Pre-meet warm-up availalbe July 4, 2012

Marriott USMS Summer Nationals July 5 - 8, 2012

ElaineK
May 30th, 2012, 12:08 PM
:cry:I'll be missing out on all the fun. I'll have to settle for Dixie Zone Championships, instead...

jroddin
May 30th, 2012, 01:11 PM
Is there going to be a meet social?
It would probably be Saturday night


The social is planned for Friday night at the Mattress Factory (right across the street). They have pulled pork and brisket, potatoes, cole slaw, corn, salad, rolls etc. type fare and will have a live band. And beer of course! Tickets will be sold at meet registration.

Details will be emailed out as part of the pre-meet email newsletters (sent to those who entered the meet).

Jeff

ande
May 30th, 2012, 02:44 PM
The social is planned for Friday night at the Mattress Factory (right across the street). They have pulled pork and brisket, potatoes, cole slaw, corn, salad, rolls etc. type fare and will have a live band. And beer of course! Tickets will be sold at meet registration.
Details will be emailed out as part of the pre-meet email newsletters (sent to those who entered the meet).
Jeff

Thanks Jeff!

So if the meet social is Friday Night
Let's do the forum dinner Saturday Night

poolraat
May 30th, 2012, 04:29 PM
So if the meet social is Friday Night
Let's do the forum dinner Saturday Night

I'm in!

The Fortress
May 30th, 2012, 05:42 PM
So if the meet social is Friday Night
Let's do the forum dinner Saturday Night

Me too! Sounds great, Ande!

ALM
May 30th, 2012, 09:45 PM
So if the meet social is Friday Night
Let's do the forum dinner Saturday Night

I'm in! :chug:

pwb
May 30th, 2012, 09:50 PM
I'm in! :chug:Ditto me, albeit minus the:chug:

aquajock
May 30th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Drinkers could easily do a 50 free with no visible difference after drinking a six pack. A better event would be something like a 200 free where you have to guzzle a beer at each wall before continuing. Now that would separate the men from the boys! Somehow I doubt USMS would officially endorse either event, though.

I would sincerely hope not...Not a very healthy way to direct the competitive spirit...

Michael Blatt
May 31st, 2012, 01:29 PM
Drinkers could easily do a 50 free with no visible difference after drinking a six pack. A better event would be something like a 200 free where you have to guzzle a beer at each wall before continuing. Now that would separate the men from the boys! Somehow I doubt USMS would officially endorse either event, though.

I recall a few SCY nationals in the early 80's that included an unofficial beer relay (4 x 50, stop at 25 & drink a can). It seemed to disappear after nationals were at the Y in Brown Deer, WI, where they frowned on adult beverages in the building. A root beer relay was held that year, except for one team that brought their own, already opened cans of "root beer" to the lane.

jroddin
May 31st, 2012, 01:55 PM
Good news - the CenturyLink Center has an alcohol permit and beer and wine will be for sale during Summer Nationals.

I don't think you want me on your beer relay. My open turns are lousy...

matysekj
June 2nd, 2012, 11:48 PM
The meet roster for summer nationals is posted at http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/roster.php. There are 1,257 swimmers entered in the meet. If you think you entered the meet, please check to verify that you are on the roster. Issues can be reported to Tracy Grilli by email at NationalsEntries -AT- usms -DOT- org.

The psych sheets will be posted once the sixth event decision has been made.

goinglong
June 3rd, 2012, 06:44 AM
So if the meet social is Friday Night
Let's do the forum dinner Saturday Night

Saturday works nice for me! My events will be done by that evening. This is my first Nationals so I'm wondering how many people usually make the forum dinner.

pwb
June 3rd, 2012, 12:05 PM
The meet roster for summer nationals is posted at http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/roster.php. There are 1,256 swimmers entered in the meet. I have to have won the closest guess with my 1,234 attendance guess.

ElaineK
June 4th, 2012, 05:22 AM
I have to have won the closest guess with my 1,234 attendance guess.

Way to go, Patrick; you did it again!

:chug:

Donna
June 4th, 2012, 12:18 PM
I'm guessing with that number the sixth event will be history.

pwb
June 4th, 2012, 01:20 PM
Way to go, Patrick; you did it again!

:chug:
Though I'm sure it violates some forum policing, we gotta start laying $$ out on these wagers.
:bolt:

pwb
June 4th, 2012, 01:37 PM
Way to go, Patrick; you did it again!

:chug:
Though I'm sure it violates some forum policing, we gotta start laying $$ out on these wagers.
:bolt:

orca1946
June 4th, 2012, 10:53 PM
Will the 6th event be dropped??

joy
June 5th, 2012, 12:21 PM
I read that it states they will know by June 15th.

ElaineK
June 5th, 2012, 04:37 PM
Though I'm sure it violates some forum policing, we gotta start laying $$ out on these wagers.
:bolt:

Well, I do still owe you a :chug:, but would be happy to make it a juice, instead. :D Unfortunately, you won't be able to collect until next year, since I won't be going to Omaha. :cry:

pwb
June 5th, 2012, 06:38 PM
Well, I do still owe you a :chug:, but would be happy to make it a juice, instead. :D Unfortunately, you won't be able to collect until next year, since I won't be going to Omaha. :cry:See you in Indy, then, and I'll do my best to make it a three-peat on guessing attendance. I just gotta figure out a way to work these relatively random guesses into my sales pitches to my clients to help them with their sales forecasts!

ElaineK
June 5th, 2012, 08:43 PM
See you in Indy, then, and I'll do my best to make it a three-peat on guessing attendance. I just gotta figure out a way to work these relatively random guesses into my sales pitches to my clients to help them with their sales forecasts!

If I can't fit it into the budget to go to Indy, I will definitely be in Mission Viejo! I grew up in Long Beach and lived most of my life in San Diego. I can't wait to see my friends and family! :bliss:

As for a three-peat, I don't doubt for a second that you will do it! :cheerleader:

That Guy
June 7th, 2012, 06:08 PM
psssst...

http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/ (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/)

jaadams1
June 7th, 2012, 07:27 PM
psssst...

http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/ (http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/)

Good luck. It looks like you picked a good year to attend Nationals. No one in your age group is attending this year! ;)

That Guy
June 7th, 2012, 08:02 PM
It looks like you picked a good year to attend Nationals. No one in your age group is attending this year! ;)
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000830649/polls_no_idea_3423_445222_answer_4_xlarge.jpeg

jroddin
June 7th, 2012, 08:39 PM
The meet roster for summer nationals is posted at http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/roster.php. There are 1,257 swimmers entered in the meet. If you think you entered the meet, please check to verify that you are on the roster. Issues can be reported to Tracy Grilli by email at NationalsEntries -AT- usms -DOT- org.

The psych sheets will be posted once the sixth event decision has been made.

I am happy to announce the sixth event will NOT be dropped for this meet. Swimmers who entered six events will be able to swim all six. The psych sheets are available here:
http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/

Due to the size of the meet (the second largest Summer Nationals in the 40+ year history of USMS) we will be deck seeding all events 200 and greater. Furthermore, all of these deck seeded events will be seeded by time (instead of by age group). The 50s and 100s will be preseeded by age group and then time (men and women separate). The 200s and 400s will be seeded by time (men and women separate) while the two distance events (800 and 1500) will be seeded by time with men and women combined (just like Greensboro). While it may be unpopular to seed the 200s by time at Nationals, this scenario creates a shorter timeline than dropping the sixth event on three of the four days.

Please send scratches and/or entry errors to championship@usms.org by June 15.

Thanks,
Jeff Roddin
USMS Championship Committee

Donna
June 7th, 2012, 08:48 PM
I am pleasantly in shock about being able to swim 6 events! Yeah!

jaadams1
June 7th, 2012, 10:32 PM
Due to the size of the meet (the second largest Summer Nationals in the 40+ year history of USMS) we will be deck seeding all events 200 and greater. Furthermore, all of these deck seeded events will be seeded by time (instead of by age group). The 50s and 100s will be preseeded by age group and then time (men and women separate). The 200s and 400s will be seeded by time (men and women separate) while the two distance events (800 and 1500) will be seeded by time with men and women combined (just like Greensboro). While it may be unpopular to seed the 200s by time at Nationals, this scenario creates a shorter timeline than dropping the sixth event on three of the four days.



While I'm not going to LCM Nationals, I would love to have this at other National meets in the future. I know I may be in the small minority with this opinion, but I like it for a pure racing standpoint. By seeding all the 200s and longer purely by time alone, it can bring even greater chances to have your entire heat in competition with each other, rather than having "2 or 3" standouts in a heat, with the rest a little behind.
The Canadian Nationals were seeded this way (yes the meet was smaller), but it ended up having some great races amongst all ages in the longer races.

pwb
June 8th, 2012, 12:56 AM
I am happy to announce the sixth event will NOT be dropped for this meet. Swimmers who entered six events will be able to swim all six. The psych sheets are available here:
http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/

Due to the size of the meet (the second largest Summer Nationals in the 40+ year history of USMS) we will be deck seeding all events 200 and greater. Furthermore, all of these deck seeded events will be seeded by time (instead of by age group). The 50s and 100s will be preseeded by age group and then time (men and women separate). The 200s and 400s will be seeded by time (men and women separate) while the two distance events (800 and 1500) will be seeded by time with men and women combined (just like Greensboro). While it may be unpopular to seed the 200s by time at Nationals, this scenario creates a shorter timeline than dropping the sixth event on three of the four days.

Please send scratches and/or entry errors to championship@usms.org by June 15.

Thanks,
Jeff Roddin
USMS Championship Committee
Awesome decision. Awesome work by the National Championship Committee in adapting to the surge of support for what should be an awesome event. THANKS!:applaud:

Rob Copeland
June 8th, 2012, 10:27 AM
...we will be deck seeding all events 200 and greater...:dunno:

Jeff which events are greater (longer?) than the 200 fly?

LCM events in order of greatness to crapness
1500 Free, 800 Free 200 Fly, beer relay, everything else, followed by 50 Free, and finally 200 Breast

Jeff, seriously, thanks to you and your committee for all you do to make this happen.

ElaineK
June 8th, 2012, 03:24 PM
:dunno:

LCM events in order of greatness to crapness
1500 Free, 800 Free 200 Fly, beer relay, everything else, followed by 50 Free, and finally 200 Breast



Hey King Frog! Are you going to let Rob get away with this ? :nono: I'm counting on you to croak out a great comeback! :banana:

krocquaman
June 8th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Ande, I'm going and vote for the Sat night idea! :agree:

That Guy
June 8th, 2012, 03:39 PM
Hey King Frog! Are you going to let Rob get away with this ? :nono: I'm counting on you to croak out a great comeback! :banana:
With his faster seed time, it looks like Allen will be several heats after me in the 200 breast.

I can neither confirm nor deny that Rob told Allen to go play in traffic.

Fresnoid
June 9th, 2012, 02:50 PM
Hey King Frog! Are you going to let Rob get away with this ? :nono: I'm counting on you to croak out a great comeback! :banana:

Kinda tough to have a comeback vs. the pure truth that Rob posted.

ElaineK
June 9th, 2012, 04:30 PM
Kinda tough to have a comeback vs. the pure truth that Rob posted.

No, it's not tough at all. Here's mine: :thhbbb: :mooning:

To my fellow frogs: See you out on the lily pad! :cheerleader: :chug:

Allen Stark
June 9th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Good luck. It looks like you picked a good year to attend Nationals. No one in your age group is attending this year! ;)

More that he picked a good year not to age up.
This is going to be a very fast Nats in terms of times.In my 3 BR events one could conceivable break the WR and be 3rd,maybe even 4th.

Allen Stark
June 9th, 2012, 04:47 PM
:dunno:

Jeff which events are greater (longer?) than the 200 fly?

LCM events in order of greatness to crapness
1500 Free, 800 Free 200 Fly, beer relay, everything else, followed by 50 Free, and finally 200 Breast

Jeff, seriously, thanks to you and your committee for all you do to make this happen.
Sticks and stones may break my bones,but a knife or a gun can do some real damage.

Allen Stark
June 9th, 2012, 04:51 PM
I am happy to announce the sixth event will NOT be dropped for this meet. Swimmers who entered six events will be able to swim all six. The psych sheets are available here:
http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/

Due to the size of the meet (the second largest Summer Nationals in the 40+ year history of USMS) we will be deck seeding all events 200 and greater. Furthermore, all of these deck seeded events will be seeded by time (instead of by age group). The 50s and 100s will be preseeded by age group and then time (men and women separate). The 200s and 400s will be seeded by time (men and women separate) while the two distance events (800 and 1500) will be seeded by time with men and women combined (just like Greensboro). While it may be unpopular to seed the 200s by time at Nationals, this scenario creates a shorter timeline than dropping the sixth event on three of the four days.

Please send scratches and/or entry errors to championship@usms.org by June 15.

Thanks,
Jeff Roddin
USMS Championship Committee

Ordinarily I wouldn't like this as I prefer to swim against my age group competitors ,but this time I am all for it as it prevents me from getting potentially lapped by Rick Colella in Rob Copeland's favorite event.

aquajock
June 10th, 2012, 01:03 PM
Ordinarily I wouldn't like this as I prefer to swim against my age group competitors ,but this time I am all for it as it prevents me from getting potentially lapped by Rick Colella in Rob Copeland's favorite event.

So does this mean we will have to check in somewhere the day of the event and we won't know who we will be racing until just before the race?

That Guy
June 10th, 2012, 01:07 PM
So does this mean we will have to check in somewhere the day of the event and we won't know who we will be racing until just before the race?
You can check in as early as July 3rd for your events:

http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/swimmerdetails.php?s=8495

But yes, you won't know your heat or lane assignments for your 200's until the heat sheets are posted for the events, probably shortly before heat 1.

barryf
June 10th, 2012, 01:27 PM
You can make a good estimated of who is likely to be in your heat. Go to
http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/ and then select Psych Sheet, select the 200 event you want, then click on Display Psych Sheet without age groupings. For the 200 Breaststroke, look at the 11 swimmers before you and after you. We are swimming 10 lanes per heat and the scratch rate should be less than 10%.

15 Ksiazek, Kendra 31 SDSM 3:06.01
16 Carlson, Jennifer M 33 RMST 3:07.19
17 Lambert, Megan 20 CTSM 3:07.94
18 Kelsall, Rosemary 50 MSBC 3:08.00
19 Good, Tricia 41 CMS 3:08.93
20 Connolly, Molly E 30 NEBR 3:09.00
21 Iseppi, Esther 54 AMT 3:09.00
22 Estel, Beth A 56 NEM 3:09.50
23 Dodd, Kara 20 BRS 3:09.56
24 Bennett, Ellen K 49 SYSM 3:10.70
25 Wilber, Dara 52 SMRT 3:11.34
26 Dawson-Cook, Susan E 49 ARIZ 3:11.36
27 Kaseman, Ann E 40 NEBR 3:12.14
28 Phelps, Melissa S 22 CMS 3:13.00
29 Massey, Melissa K 31 RAY 3:13.97
30 Simmons, Cheryl A 45 ROSE 3:14.30
31 Framke, Erin C 39 CMS 3:14.61
32 Burke, Colleen R 27 LVM 3:15.73
33 Stiles, Jasmine 46 SDSM 3:15.80
34 Bowen, Kris 50 INDY 3:15.80
35 Froehlich, Kathryn 50 IM 3:16.89
36 Walker, Sarah E 28 CMS 3:17.23
37 Mann, Melinda J 56 WMAC 3:17.56

sunruh
June 11th, 2012, 11:54 AM
I have to have won the closest guess with my 1,234 attendance guess.

Take that number
Double it
Thats how many were in just the 100 free of mens today here italy!

Or

Take that number 8x for this meet

While this may be the 3rd largest lcm masters meet it is not even in the realm of stupidity that is worlds. 60. That is sixty in my age group alone did not swim as fast as the entry qual time!


6pm and the last heat of 100 free finished just now
Up next
116 heats of the 100 breast

ElaineK
June 11th, 2012, 01:36 PM
Take that number
Double it
Thats how many were in just the 100 free of mens today here italy!

Or

Take that number 8x for this meet

While this may be the 3rd largest lcm masters meet it is not even in the realm of stupidity that is worlds. 60. That is sixty in my age group alone did not swim as fast as the entry qual time!


6pm and the last heat of 100 free finished just now
Up next
116 heats of the 100 breast

I sure hope Chris is right and it's not that way in Montreal! :afraid:My husband already dreads the waiting that happens at local meets that take too long (especially if they are in hot/humid indoor pools). I can already hear him :bitching: at Montreal, even though that pool will be outdoors.

As for me, I can't even imagine what the warm-up lanes must be like. :censor:

sunruh
June 11th, 2012, 02:39 PM
I sure hope Chris is right and it's not that way in Montreal! :afraid:My husband already dreads the waiting that happens at local meets that take too long (especially if they are in hot/humid indoor pools). I can already hear him :bitching: at Montreal, even though that pool will be outdoors.

As for me, I can't even imagine what the warm-up lanes must be like. :censor:

As i post this heat 68 of mens just finished

Just 58 more

Its 8:39 pm

ElaineK
June 11th, 2012, 04:01 PM
As i post this heat 68 of mens just finished

Just 58 more

Its 8:39 pm

:bed:

Jeff Commings
June 12th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Hey, Jeff, I'm soooooo happy the 200s will be seeded by time and not age. Finally, I'll get to swim an event at nationals against the fastest people in the meet, many of which are not just my age group. My only 200 of the meet is the 200 IM (top seed??!!?), but I'm excited to step up and race people from all age groups.

Now, what will it take to convince you to seed the 100 breast by time?

jroddin
June 14th, 2012, 11:23 AM
Hey, Jeff, I'm soooooo happy the 200s will be seeded by time and not age. Finally, I'll get to swim an event at nationals against the fastest people in the meet, many of which are not just my age group. My only 200 of the meet is the 200 IM (top seed??!!?), but I'm excited to step up and race people from all age groups.

Now, what will it take to convince you to seed the 100 breast by time?

Jeff,

We've arranged for a practice meet to be held in the pool just prior to USMS Summer Nationals. On Monday, June 25, there will be a 100 breast seeded by time. The good news is you are entered in that event, so you will indeed be able to race swimmers regardless of age in the 100 breast. :)

Jeff

Jeff Commings
June 14th, 2012, 11:45 AM
Oh, I wasn't aware of that meet, Jeff! I'm glad you told me now, so I can adjust my taper to be ready to race June 25!

:woot:

Jeff Commings
June 14th, 2012, 11:46 AM
Oh, I wasn't aware of that meet, Jeff! I'm glad you told me now, so I can adjust my taper to be ready to race June 25!

:woot:

Seriously, though, I wanted to be able to race Steve West in the 100, and we will be in different heats at Trials. Oh well.

jroddin
June 14th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Oh, I wasn't aware of that meet, Jeff! I'm glad you told me now, so I can adjust my taper to be ready to race June 25!


And as a matter of fact, the reason that meet is called "Trials" is because USA-S is trying out the pool to make sure it will be ok for us! :banana:



Seriously, though, I wanted to be able to race Steve West in the 100, and we will be in different heats at Trials. Oh well.

Sure you will. If both of you make semi's there is a 50/50 chance you'll be in the same heat. And if both of you make finals, there is a 100% chance you'll be in the same heat!:bouncing:

matysekj
June 19th, 2012, 05:04 PM
The heat sheets for the 50's and 100's have been added at http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/heats/, and an estimated time line for the meet is also available at http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/timeline.pdf.

That Guy
June 25th, 2012, 05:45 PM
People who fret about tiny details of the competition pool, you can't say I never did nothin for ya :D:

http://swimswam.com/2012/06/no-outside-laneropes-in-prelims-of-the-olympic-trials/

I think this is actually a good thing since we have to exit out the sides of the pool. Comments section indicates that it wasn't a problem at Swimvitational.

osterber
June 27th, 2012, 12:22 AM
Interestingly, in both the USA Swimming and USMS rule books, outside lanes lines are not required for national championship meets. They're only recommended.

-Rick

james lucas
June 28th, 2012, 02:34 PM
Will the facility in Omaha have warm up pools, apart from the main pool?

That Guy
June 28th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Will the facility in Omaha have warm up pools, apart from the main pool?

http://usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=2135&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en

orca1946
June 28th, 2012, 04:44 PM
WOW! I wish everything was normal" with me ---- :cane:hip,leg,foot & shoulder.
I would have been in the top 10 in 7 events! Maybe next year - ok I sound like a Cubs fan!:D

orca1946
July 4th, 2012, 12:54 AM
I'm rooting for a lady that is doing the 100 & 200 fly at 66 years of age ,that will be on our team next year. I'll tell her name after the results are in.

JohnnyBSurfing
July 4th, 2012, 08:45 AM
Our Gulf Coast Swim Team Mate Ginger Tompkins is in the 1500M and the 200M Back and I am looking for where we can see a webcast of the event ?
If anyone has been able to find it please let me know.
Thanks and Good Luck !
John

Allen Stark
July 4th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Thanks Jeff!

So if the meet social is Friday Night
Let's do the forum dinner Saturday Night

I'm at the airport waiting for the plane wondering where and when the Forumite dinner will be? It should be the highlite of the meet.

ElaineK
July 4th, 2012, 02:43 PM
I'm at the airport waiting for the plane wondering where and when the Forumite dinner will be? It should be the highlite of the meet.

Have a safe flight! And, good luck in Omaha! :cheerleader: More importantly, have fun! :D

The Fortress
July 4th, 2012, 03:18 PM
I'm at the airport waiting for the plane wondering where and when the Forumite dinner will be? It should be the highlite of the meet.

Me too! I know Patrick and I still have it penciled in!

FWIW, here's what Paul Wolf reported on restaurants from Trials:
"If anyone says to go to Anthony's steakhouse, don't. Go to the Longhorn on Dodge just past 72nd."

Anyone who's been there for Trials have restaurant recommendations?

ElaineK
July 4th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Good luck to you and Patrick, too, Fort! I wish I could be there, too!

Goooo Forumites! :cheerleader:

tlshaheen
July 4th, 2012, 07:32 PM
Our Gulf Coast Swim Team Mate Ginger Tompkins is in the 1500M and the 200M Back and I am looking for where we can see a webcast of the event ?
If anyone has been able to find it please let me know.
Thanks and Good Luck !
John

You'll be able to watch the live stream of the event here: http://www.usms.org/comp/lcnats12/stream.php

chowsh
July 4th, 2012, 10:12 PM
i liked Vivace (upscale italian) and Blue Fin Sushi (or something like that), both in Old Market area. the sushi place has great happy hr deal on sushi! 12th St and Harvey?Howard?:anim_coffee:

jaadams1
July 5th, 2012, 04:00 PM
4 Guy, That 39 PNA 18:59.99 19:06.19
r:+0.73 33.46 1:10.19 (36.73)
1:47.84 (37.65) 2:25.62 (37.78)
3:04.06 (38.44) 3:41.78 (37.72)
4:19.87 (38.09) 4:57.86 (37.99)
5:36.56 (38.70) 6:14.91 (38.35)
6:54.09 (39.18) 7:32.66 (38.57)
8:12.28 (39.62) 8:51.26 (38.98)
9:30.33 (39.07) 10:09.21 (38.88)
10:48.56 (39.35) 11:27.43 (38.87)
12:06.64 (39.21) 12:45.30 (38.66)
13:24.78 (39.48) 14:03.45 (38.67)
14:42.69 (39.24) 15:21.06 (38.37)
15:59.54 (38.48) 16:38.06 (38.52)
17:16.12 (38.06) 17:53.01 (36.89)
18:30.69 (37.68) 19:06.19 (35.50)

Nice job. Looks like you had some energy left at the end of it...and possibly left it wide open for someone to sneak in on Sunday. ;)

orca1946
July 6th, 2012, 01:26 PM
And it starts !!! :applaud::banana::bolt:
Good luck to all!:bolt:

ElaineK
July 6th, 2012, 02:08 PM
4 Guy, That 39 PNA 18:59.99 19:06.19
r:+0.73 33.46 1:10.19 (36.73)
1:47.84 (37.65) 2:25.62 (37.78)
3:04.06 (38.44) 3:41.78 (37.72)
4:19.87 (38.09) 4:57.86 (37.99)
5:36.56 (38.70) 6:14.91 (38.35)
6:54.09 (39.18) 7:32.66 (38.57)
8:12.28 (39.62) 8:51.26 (38.98)
9:30.33 (39.07) 10:09.21 (38.88)
10:48.56 (39.35) 11:27.43 (38.87)
12:06.64 (39.21) 12:45.30 (38.66)
13:24.78 (39.48) 14:03.45 (38.67)
14:42.69 (39.24) 15:21.06 (38.37)
15:59.54 (38.48) 16:38.06 (38.52)
17:16.12 (38.06) 17:53.01 (36.89)
18:30.69 (37.68) 19:06.19 (35.50)

Nice job. Looks like you had some energy left at the end of it...and possibly left it wide open for someone to sneak in on Sunday. ;)

Great 400 IM swim, "Guy, That" (:lmao:), too! :cheerleader:

And, he took 3+ seconds off his seed time on 200 backstroke! Way to go, That Guy!

ElaineK
July 6th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Congratulations to SealGirl, aka Mrs. Frog, aka Carol Stark for taking 10 seconds off her seed time in her 200 backstroke! :applaud: :cheerleader:

ElaineK
July 6th, 2012, 03:37 PM
Hey, did anybody just see that bird drinking water out of the pool? The livestreaming camera zoomed in on this cute little bird standing at the edge of the pool, dipping his head in for some sips of water, before flying off. I hope the chlorine doesn't kill him! And, I hope he finds his way out ok... :agree:


Edit: I also hope Mr. Oster, who got rescued during his 200 backstroke race, is ok. :bighug:

That Guy
July 7th, 2012, 08:53 AM
Great 400 IM swim, "Guy, That" (:lmao:), too! :cheerleader:

And, he took 3+ seconds off his seed time on 200 backstroke! Way to go, That Guy!
Thanks Elaine! Today is the 2breast, 50 back, and 2fly. Anything could happen!*

*except any sort of record in the 2breast. I think we're all unanimous that I won't be doing that. Wait... Is there a record for highest stroke count? :rolleyes:

goinglong
July 7th, 2012, 10:06 AM
Me too! I know Patrick and I still have it penciled in!

FWIW, here's what Paul Wolf reported on restaurants from Trials:
"If anyone says to go to Anthony's steakhouse, don't. Go to the Longhorn on Dodge just past 72nd."

Anyone who's been there for Trials have restaurant recommendations?


i liked Vivace (upscale italian) and Blue Fin Sushi (or something like that), both in Old Market area. the sushi place has great happy hr deal on sushi! 12th St and Harvey?Howard?:anim_coffee:
I still have it penciled in, also. I'd love to meet up with a few of you guys because it is my first Nationals and I leave for home tomorrow morning.

I went to a steak and chops place last night called Spencer's. It is located right near the arena (Dodge and 10th). Pretty nice place and not too crowded for a Friday night.

If there are people who don't want to have steaks, I'm happy to go to sushi or Italian or whatever!

ElaineK
July 7th, 2012, 03:00 PM
Thanks Elaine! Today is the 2breast, 50 back, and 2fly. Anything could happen!*

*except any sort of record in the 2breast. I think we're all unanimous that I won't be doing that. Wait... Is there a record for highest stroke count? :rolleyes:

Great job on the 200, That Guy! Seed: 3:03.36, Final: 3:02.43. I tried to count your strokes, but the camera kept zooming in on the leader and cutting you out. :bitching: From what I could tell, your second 50 was 22 strokes and your third was 23 strokes. I could be way off; your turnover picked up as you approached the walls and it was hard to keep track when the camera didn't show you! But, if my stroke count was correct, you won't be breaking any records there for highest stroke count, because that's good! And, your pullout looked very strong and long. Way to go! :applaud:

ElaineK
July 7th, 2012, 03:33 PM
Congratulations, Fort, on beating your own world record in the 50 backstroke! :applaud: :cheerleader:

ElaineK
July 7th, 2012, 04:16 PM
Other Forumite news:

Congratulations to Ande for winning his age group and shaving .13 off his seed time. :applaud:

And, to That Guy for shaving .61 off his seed time and placing 3rd. :applaud:

M.I.A.: Wookiee was supposed to go up against That Guy. :badday: Wookiee, where were you?
Congratulations to King Frog, aka Allen Stark, for taking almost two seconds off his seed time in the 200 butterfly. :applaud:

Allen Stark
July 7th, 2012, 09:59 PM
This is an amazing facility and the warmup/warmdown pool exceeded my expectations.For those of you who couldn't come ,it is ,I think ,8 50M lanes and 6 25M lanes.2 of the 25M lanes are permanent designated sprint lanes with the blocks with the"fins" so your back leg can push off on track starts.
I hate to complain about anything,but the Concession stand warrants complaint.Gold Medal Sponsorship was $175 which seemed a little steep to me so I skipped it.I don't know what food that got you,but at those prices it should be lots of Omaha steaks.I figured the concessions here would be expensive,but that we'd have good choices.What we got was a hotdog stand.After complaints they added yogurt and fruit and they already had nachos and a cheese bowl,but for the lactose intolerant among us(90% of the worlds population) our total choice of entree's was hotdogs.

jaadams1
July 7th, 2012, 11:17 PM
our total choice of entree's was hotdogs.

Sounds good to me. :D Now I'm hungry...thanks Allen! ;)

That Guy
July 8th, 2012, 05:58 AM
Great job on the 200, That Guy! Seed: 3:03.36, Final: 3:02.43. I tried to count your strokes, but the camera kept zooming in on the leader and cutting you out. :bitching: From what I could tell, your second 50 was 22 strokes and your third was 23 strokes. I could be way off; your turnover picked up as you approached the walls and it was hard to keep track when the camera didn't show you! But, if my stroke count was correct, you won't be breaking any records there for highest stroke count, because that's good! And, your pullout looked very strong and long. Way to go! :applaud:

Thanks Elaine! I had a good race against the guy in the lane next to me so it was a fun 200 breast.

That Guy
July 8th, 2012, 06:02 AM
Other Forumite news:

Congratulations to Ande for winning his age group and shaving .13 off his seed time. :applaud:

And, to That Guy for shaving .61 off his seed time and placing 3rd. :applaud:

M.I.A.: Wookiee was supposed to go up against That Guy. :badday: Wookiee, where were you?
Congratulations to King Frog, aka Allen Stark, for taking almost two seconds off his seed time in the 200 butterfly. :applaud:
Thanks! I don't think Wookiee was at the meet. Don't know the story there.

ElaineK
July 8th, 2012, 09:18 AM
This is an amazing facility and the warmup/warmdown pool exceeded my expectations.For those of you who couldn't come ,it is ,I think ,8 50M lanes and 6 25M lanes.2 of the 25M lanes are permanent designated sprint lanes with the blocks with the"fins" so your back leg can push off on track starts.
I hate to complain about anything,but the Concession stand warrants complaint.Gold Medal Sponsorship was $175 which seemed a little steep to me so I skipped it.I don't know what food that got you,but at those prices it should be lots of Omaha steaks.I figured the concessions here would be expensive,but that we'd have good choices.What we got was a hotdog stand.After complaints they added yogurt and fruit and they already had nachos and a cheese bowl,but for the lactose intolerant among us(90% of the worlds population) our total choice of entree's was hotdogs.

From what I can tell from the highlight videos, the warm-up pool looks fabulous! And, the competition pool is amazing. :agree:

I hope Nationals returns to Omaha in 2016, along with Olympic Trials, so I have another chance at going! :banana:

That Guy
July 8th, 2012, 09:26 AM
From what I can tell from the highlight videos, the warm-up pool looks fabulous! And, the competition pool is amazing. :agree:

I hope Nationals returns to Omaha in 2016, along with Olympic Trials, so I have another chance at going! :banana: the pools are both fantastic. The clockwise current may debunk the claim of "world's fastest pool" but my enjoyment of it was not diminished. :banana:

ElaineK
July 8th, 2012, 01:30 PM
Hey, Jeff, I'm soooooo happy the 200s will be seeded by time and not age. Finally, I'll get to swim an event at nationals against the fastest people in the meet, many of which are not just my age group. My only 200 of the meet is the 200 IM (top seed??!!?), but I'm excited to step up and race people from all age groups.

Now, what will it take to convince you to seed the 100 breast by time?

Jeff, I've been watching your races on livestreaming and you are having an awesome meet! Congratulations!!:applaud: It was so great to see you do so well at Olympic Trials and continue that success at Nationals. :cheerleader: After reading about your past Olympic Trials frustrations in your book, I was really pulling for you this time around. Seeing the joy on your face (the livestreaming camera zoomed in on you and Ponce) after your mixed relay won was priceless! Congratulations on your team's WORLD RECORD!

Keep having fun, Jeff! You had a great 50 breaststroke and look like you are really enjoying the experience.

Update: Way to go breaking a minute in your 100 back! I know you missed the record, but, WOW!

Cheers!
:chug:

Allen Stark
July 8th, 2012, 07:31 PM
I want to thank all the people who worked to get this meet at this facility and all those who helped make it run so smoothly and successfully :applaud::bow::applaud: .

mlabresh
July 8th, 2012, 08:44 PM
Hey, did anybody just see that bird drinking water out of the pool? The livestreaming camera zoomed in on this cute little bird standing at the edge of the pool, dipping his head in for some sips of water, before flying off. I hope the chlorine doesn't kill him! And, I hope he finds his way out ok... :agree:




My husband and kids saw the bird too. I saw it flying around up in the stands but I think I was warming up when it was helping itself to a drink. :D

breastroker
July 8th, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jeff impressed me with his fastest in the meet 50 breast. Fast reaction time although he was 0.02 faster in his hundred breast start.

Timothy Shead has amazing fast start times, as fast as some of the sprinters.

I am wondering is anyone is using the grab start now??? With that track assist bar it is a no brainer to go track start.

I wonder if there have been any studies on using your strong side leg versus weak leg back? It might be an advantage using the strongest leg on the front of the platform.

jaadams1
July 8th, 2012, 10:18 PM
I wonder if there have been any studies on using your strong side leg versus weak leg back? It might be an advantage using the strongest leg on the front of the platform.

I myself am right handed, right footed, and do my track start with my right foot back (so my strong leg is back). I haven't tried it the other way, but I've done this so long that it's normal for me. I'm not sure if the other way is faster/slower/whatever, but the way I do it I was getting off the blocks consistently between 0.66 and 0.69 in all six events at the Canadian Masters Nats a month ago.

That Guy
July 8th, 2012, 10:20 PM
I want to thank all the people who worked to get this meet at this facility and all those who helped make it run so smoothly and successfully :applaud::bow::applaud: .
Good call Allen! Excellent work by our esteemed hosts, the Nebraska Masters. Fingers crossed for a repeat in 2016!

jaadams1
July 8th, 2012, 10:29 PM
Good call Allen! Excellent work by our esteemed hosts, the Nebraska Masters. Fingers crossed for a repeat in 2016!

Maybe you should just start your next taper with plans for 2016! And call it "Here I Come Again Omaha/Confessions of an Idiot?" :bolt:

That Guy
July 8th, 2012, 10:45 PM
Maybe you should just start your next taper with plans for 2016! And call it "Here I Come Again Omaha/Confessions of an Idiot?" :bolt:
Excellent idea, I'll get started right away! :banana: If you see anything that doesn't match up with that on my blokg in the meantime, don't worry, it's just a typo.

Jeff Commings
July 9th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Thanks, Elaine! It was a lot of fun.

I had no designs on getting close to Mike Ross' 100 back world record, because that was a tough time to reach. I just wanted to get under 1:00 one more time. I'm not sure how many 59-second 100 backstrokes I have left in me, but we will see...

I'm happy with all of my swims this past weekend. I swam my fastest time ever in textile in the 50 breast, a lifetime best in the 100 free and right on my Trials time in the 100 breast. I do wish I had been able to swim with Steve West and Gary Marshall in the sprint breaststrokes, but I'm beating a dead horse on that topic.

ElaineK
July 9th, 2012, 05:21 PM
I'm happy with all of my swims this past weekend. I swam my fastest time ever in textile in the 50 breast, a lifetime best in the 100 free and right on my Trials time in the 100 breast.

:applaud: Fantastic! Those are some amazing swims coming right off of Olympic Trials. And, to go under 1:00 in the 100 backstroke on top of it, :bow:!

I hope you stick around USMS; it's great having you! I look forward to seeing you at future Nationals! :agree:

Jeff Commings
July 9th, 2012, 06:09 PM
:applaud: Fantastic! Those are some amazing swims coming right off of Olympic Trials. And, to go under 1:00 in the 100 backstroke on top of it, :bow:!

I hope you stick around USMS; it's great having you! I look forward to seeing you at future Nationals! :agree:

Steve West, David Guthrie, Tim Shead and Bob Strand gave me plenty of incentive to stick around, though I have so much fun swimming Masters that I had no plans on leaving anyway!

Chris Stevenson
July 9th, 2012, 08:27 PM
I do wish I had been able to swim with Steve West and Gary Marshall in the sprint breaststrokes, but I'm beating a dead horse on that topic.

All you had to do was swim races 200m or longer to get true time-seeded heats!

orca1946
July 13th, 2012, 12:58 AM
Wow ! Great time & you had fun. Want to join our team for next season ??

orca1946
July 20th, 2012, 01:24 AM
My lady friend did well in 4 events -----
but alas was DQ'ed in the 200 fly:badday:

secondheart
December 8th, 2012, 09:44 PM
Steve West, David Guthrie, Tim Shead and Bob Strand gave me plenty of incentive to stick around, though I have so much fun swimming Masters that I had no plans on leaving anyway!

You forgot Rick Colella whose 200 WR was the most impressive breast stroke swim