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ande
November 7th, 2011, 09:03 AM
Info
http://usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=2216&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en

Roster
http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/7c452312-459e-4719-b9a0-a17b9a1123d5/2011-12%20Duel%20in%20Pool_11.3.pdf

ElaineK
November 7th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Will this be televised? My budget doesn't allow for tickets, but I would sure like to see this on TV or online! :agree:

hnatkin
November 7th, 2011, 08:13 PM
Elaine - I bet you could volunteer and get a front row seat!

IntlSwmr
November 8th, 2011, 12:55 PM
Will this be televised? My budget doesn't allow for tickets, but I would sure like to see this on TV or online! :agree:


It'll be on TV - live broadcast!
Universal Sports on Friday the 16th @ 7-9 p.m. (ET)
NBC on Saturday the 17th @ 2:30 to 4:30 p.m. (ET)

http://www.usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=2022&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en

aquageek
November 8th, 2011, 02:02 PM
Too bad they don't have a Masters division so I could beat the tar out of that toothless yeti wookiee on TV.

More info - http://www.swimmaccarolina.org/component/content/article/81-front-page-articles/2231-marsh-tabbed-as-mens-coach-for-2011-duel-in-the-pool.html

ElaineK
November 8th, 2011, 02:29 PM
It'll be on TV - Universal Sports on the 16th, and NBC on the 17th:

http://www.usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=2022&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en

:bliss:THANKS!!!

orca1946
November 9th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Thanx for the time & channel.

moodyrichardson
November 10th, 2011, 05:00 PM
My husband got me tickets for Christmas!! I'll try to take a sign to say hello to the USMS formites, if I get a camera pan!!

Hiro11
December 6th, 2011, 11:15 AM
Roster thoughts:
1. The women's team looks fully loaded. Not really much to say there. Maybe missing Kukors.
2. No Adrian or Phelps on the men's side? Uh-oh.
3. It will be good to see Grevers and Hansen back competing internationally for the US. I really want to see Hansen break a minute in the hundred. Gangloff's relay split in Shanghai was weak (1:01, I think?), we need help badly. Grevers sub 53 would be nice as well, if possible.
4. I'll be interested to see where Conor Dwyer and Jimmy Feigen are at this time of the year. Dwyer in particular has not been showing what he's capable of internationally yet.

General thoughts:
1. This meet is going to be much more competitive than last year's meet. The E-star line-up is pretty solid.
2. The last DitP was extremely fast for a December meet (eight SCM world records, last chance in the suits). I think this year will be slower for a variety of reasons.

IntlSwmr
December 6th, 2011, 05:40 PM
The E-star line-up is pretty solid
I've been looking everywhere but as of this point in time, haven't seen any official roster released for the E-star contingent, just that for Team USA...care to share? ;)

Lump
December 6th, 2011, 05:59 PM
I'll probably be there.

IntlSwmr
December 7th, 2011, 01:14 PM
All right, the Euro squad has been announced, and a pretty strong one at that which will give the Americans quite a challenge - especially on the women's side:

http://theswimmerscircle.com/blog/impressive-european-duel-in-the-pool-roster-released/

Hiro11
December 7th, 2011, 03:47 PM
I've been looking everywhere but as of this point in time, haven't seen any official roster released for the E-star contingent, just that for Team USA...care to share? ;)I noticed after I posted that the list I was looking at on another blog was a rumoured list, my mistake.

Regarding the E-Stars (dumb name) line up: it cracks me up to see Torrance High grad Vlad Morozov swimming for Europe. He did move here at age 14, but he's definitely "made in the USA". Reminds me a bit of Sharapova playing tennis as a "Russian" even though she's lived and trained in Florida since she was 7 and sounds like a typical American 23 year old. There's a lot of that going around these days in sports, particularly swimming. More power to him, I just think it's a bit funny.

ande
December 12th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Mutual of Omaha Duel in the Pool (http://usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=2216&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en)

Georgia Tech Aquatic Center (http://www.ramblinwreck.com/genrel/032102aae.html)

Fri, Dec. 16 @ 7:00 pm

Sat, Dec. 17 @ 2:30 pm

Watch on TV
Dec. 16, 7:00-9:00 p.m. ET on Universal Sports
Dec. 17, 2:00-4:00 p.m. ET on NBC


U.S. Duel in the Pool Roster (http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/7c452312-459e-4719-b9a0-a17b9a1123d5/2011-12%20Duel%20in%20Pool_11.3.pdf)

European All-Star Team Roster (http://usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/e10287b3-ec32-4e73-85c9-f9f0bc04c465/Duel%20in%20the%20Pool%20European%20All.pdf)

Purchase Tickets (http://www.ferstcenter.gatech.edu/plugins/content/index.php?id=121)

Seating Chart (http://usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/e49a1f19-3b93-48ad-a6ea-49baad192d1e/Mutual%20of%20Omaha%20Duel%20in%20the%20Pool%20Sea ting%20Chart.pdf)

Mutual of Omaha duel site (http://www.mutualofomaha.com/usa-swimming/duel-in-the-pool/)

Prior Duels (http://www.mutualofomaha.com/usa-swimming/race-clips/)

Lump
December 12th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Confirmed, I will be there....probably with my brother.

Rob Copeland
December 13th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Confirmed, I will be there....probably with my brother.And for those of you on the fence about attending…
All ticket prices have been reduced to $25! And there are some great seats available!

Check out http://www.ferstcenter.gatech.edu/plugins/content/index.php?id=121 for details!

Please Note: There will be NO on site ticket sales. All tickets must be purchased in advance by Thursday, December 15.

ande
December 16th, 2011, 11:50 AM
Mutual of Omaha's 2011 Duel in the Pool SCM (http://usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=2216&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en)
BEGINS TODAY

Georgia Tech Aquatic Center (http://www.ramblinwreck.com/genrel/032102aae.html)

Fri Dec. 16 @ 6:30 pm

Sat Dec. 17 @ 2:00 pm

RESULTS (http://www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/Index_by_events.htm)


Watch on TV
Dec. 16, 7:00-9:00 p.m. ET on Universal Sports
Dec. 17, 2:00-4:00 p.m. ET on NBC


U.S. Duel in the Pool Roster (http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/7c452312-459e-4719-b9a0-a17b9a1123d5/2011-12%20Duel%20in%20Pool_11.3.pdf)

European All-Star Team Roster (http://usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/e10287b3-ec32-4e73-85c9-f9f0bc04c465/Duel%20in%20the%20Pool%20European%20All.pdf)

Purchase Tickets (http://www.ferstcenter.gatech.edu/plugins/content/index.php?id=121)

Seating Chart (http://usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/e49a1f19-3b93-48ad-a6ea-49baad192d1e/Mutual%20of%20Omaha%20Duel%20in%20the%20Pool%20Sea ting%20Chart.pdf)

Mutual of Omaha duel site (http://www.mutualofomaha.com/usa-swimming/duel-in-the-pool/)

Prior Duels (http://www.mutualofomaha.com/usa-swimming/race-clips/)


Fri Dec 16, 2011 (http://www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/index_d1.htm)

Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay
Women's 400m Individual Medley
Men's 400m Individual Medley
Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Backstroke
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Women's 100m Butterfly
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 400m Freestyle


Sat Dec 17, 2011 (http://www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/index_d2.htm)

Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 800m Freestyle
Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Breaststroke
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 200m Individual Medley
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x100m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle

Rob Copeland
December 16th, 2011, 04:16 PM
I just got my tickets...

I'll be sitting in the pool bleachers:bliss:

Text me if you see me on TV :cheerleader:

ande
December 16th, 2011, 07:27 PM
New wr
http://www.omegatiming.com/swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/C73B1_Results%20(One%20Heat%20-%20Relay)_101_Heat1_Women_4x100_Medley.pdf

Live timing
http://www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/index_d1.htm

Sojerz
December 16th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Soem good swims by Coughlin, Soni and Beard, Brendan Hansen, and other the US swimmers. Can feel the suspense buidling for this summer.

Chris Stevenson
December 17th, 2011, 10:56 AM
Wow, check out the top 3 in the women's 100 fly:

http://www.omegatiming.com/swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/C73A1_Results%20(One%20Heat%20-%20Individual)_111_Heat1_Women_100_Fly.pdf

What I find interesting is that *in the water* Coughlin was the slowest and Vollmer was the fastest. But Coughlin winning the race off the blocks was the deciding factor.

pwb
December 17th, 2011, 02:44 PM
12.5 meters of coverage for both the men's and women's 800??? Shame on you, NBC. Is it really too much to ask for 10 minutes of coverage for each of these events? What does that equate to -- one crummy 1st round game of Wimbledon? An inning from one of the godawful number of pro baseball games?

ande
December 17th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Mutual of Omaha's 2011 Duel in the Pool SCM (http://usaswimming.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabId=2216&Alias=Rainbow&Lang=en)
Is on NBC right now

Georgia Tech Aquatic Center (http://www.ramblinwreck.com/genrel/032102aae.html)

Fri Dec. 16 @ 6:30 pm

Sat Dec. 17 @ 2:00 pm

RESULTS (http://www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/Index_by_events.htm)


Watch on TV
Dec. 16, 7:00-9:00 p.m. ET on Universal Sports
Dec. 17, 2:00-4:00 p.m. ET on NBC


U.S. Duel in the Pool Roster (http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/7c452312-459e-4719-b9a0-a17b9a1123d5/2011-12%20Duel%20in%20Pool_11.3.pdf)

European All-Star Team Roster (http://usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/e10287b3-ec32-4e73-85c9-f9f0bc04c465/Duel%20in%20the%20Pool%20European%20All.pdf)

Purchase Tickets (http://www.ferstcenter.gatech.edu/plugins/content/index.php?id=121)

Seating Chart (http://usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/e49a1f19-3b93-48ad-a6ea-49baad192d1e/Mutual%20of%20Omaha%20Duel%20in%20the%20Pool%20Sea ting%20Chart.pdf)

Mutual of Omaha duel site (http://www.mutualofomaha.com/usa-swimming/duel-in-the-pool/)

Prior Duels (http://www.mutualofomaha.com/usa-swimming/race-clips/)


Fri Dec 16, 2011 (http://www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/index_d1.htm)

Women's 4x100m Medley Relay
Men's 4x100m Medley Relay
Women's 400m Individual Medley
Men's 400m Individual Medley
Women's 100m Freestyle
Men's 100m Freestyle
Women's 200m Backstroke
Men's 200m Backstroke
Women's 200m Breaststroke
Men's 200m Breaststroke
Women's 100m Butterfly
Men's 100m Butterfly
Women's 400m Freestyle
Men's 400m Freestyle


Sat Dec 17, 2011 (http://www.omegatiming.com/index_home.htm#swimming/racearchives/2011/Duel/index_d2.htm)

Women's 800m Freestyle
Men's 800m Freestyle
Women's 200m Freestyle
Men's 200m Freestyle
Women's 100m Backstroke
Men's 100m Backstroke
Women's 100m Breaststroke
Men's 100m Breaststroke
Women's 200m Butterfly
Men's 200m Butterfly
Women's 50m Freestyle
Men's 50m Freestyle
Women's 200m Individual Medley
Men's 200m Individual Medley
Women's 4x100m Freestyle
Men's 4x100m Freestyle

aquageek
December 17th, 2011, 04:32 PM
12.5 meters of coverage for both the men's and women's 800??? Shame on you, NBC. Is it really too much to ask for 10 minutes of coverage for each of these events? What does that equate to -- one crummy 1st round game of Wimbledon? An inning from one of the godawful number of pro baseball games?

Boy, you got that right. Universals coverage was so much better. Why didnt Biederman swim?

havepoolwillswim
December 18th, 2011, 12:00 AM
Davis Tarwater breaks the AR in the 200 fly! 1:51.9

Phelps held the old record at 1:52.2

That Guy
December 18th, 2011, 01:59 AM
Bog, you got that right. New log entry: pwb nickname "Bog", origin unknown.

Hey, somebody has to keep track of this stuff

swimshark
December 18th, 2011, 06:24 AM
I've been watching it the last 2 nights and one thing that amazes me is how different the pool looks from Nationals. Even my coach commented about how they changed it from his days swimming there and when he went last year for an interview.

Lump
December 18th, 2011, 11:15 AM
I've been watching it the last 2 nights and one thing that amazes me is how different the pool looks from Nationals. Even my coach commented about how they changed it from his days swimming there and when he went last year for an interview.

They definitely spent some $$$ to dress that place up (back drop over diving well, stands over one end of 50m pool, lane covers on end lanes, lighting. Big production.

Hiro11
December 19th, 2011, 09:06 AM
Since this seems to be about the only place on the internet where it's acceptable to be a swimming fan, my thoughts on this meet:

1. What exactly is wrong with the Europeans? They probably were a weaker team but they were clearly capable of more then they produced. Almost universally they swam slower than the did at Euro SC just a couple of weeks ago. Friis, Joensen, the women's 4x100 team and Simmons showed up to race, the rest mostly seemed like they hardly could be bothered. Get the Germans, French, Italians and Russians to commit in force, get them excited and lets make this a real competition.
2. I'm so glad to see Ricky Berens show up at a big meet. His anchor 100 was a thing of beauty. That may have been the best relay start I've ever seen.
3. Grevers is awesome.
4. Caitlin Leverenz in the 200 IM was probably the swim of the meet for me. Her breaststroke leg was just sick. She needs to work on her free and I could easily see a medal for her in London.
5. Missy Franklin made a lot of mistakes and still rocked. Two 51.3 splits in one meet. What's scary is that she still has so much upside potential with her starts and turns. I could see her easily cracking 53 individually next year if she can get some good long course training in.
6. Otteson's interview cracked me up, finally a European with some fire. Simmons seemed pretty cool as well.
7. The US needs help in the 200 fly, 2 American records was a huge surprise to me.
8. Cseh has the weirdest fly in the world. That should not work. Those bug-eyed goggles and perma-shaved head add to his alien vibe. Just a strange dude in the water.
9. Bence Biczo is the most fun name to say in the world, but it needs to be said is a really bad Italian accent for some reason (I know he's Hungarian).
10. I hope to God Clary's OK.

smontanaro
December 19th, 2011, 09:11 AM
2. I'm so glad to see Ricky Berens show up at a big meet. His anchor 100 was a thing of beauty. That may have been the best relay start I've ever seen.

I saw very little of the meet, but I did see the 4x100 free relay at the end. I thought his last turn was amazing.

Skip

Sojerz
December 19th, 2011, 09:23 AM
Since this seems to be about the only place on the internet where it's acceptable to be a swimming fan, my thoughts on this meet:


2. I'm so glad to see Ricky Berens show up at a big meet. His anchor 100 was a thing of beauty. That may have been the best relay start I've ever seen.


I also loved his third turn and would like to see what was going on from underwater. Seemd like half a pool length on TV, and then he was up with 1/2 body length lead.:bolt:

ande
December 19th, 2011, 11:35 AM
12.5 meters of coverage for both the men's and women's 800??? Shame on you, NBC. Is it really too much to ask for 10 minutes of coverage for each of these events? What does that equate to -- one crummy 1st round game of Wimbledon? An inning from one of the godawful number of pro baseball games?

Shame on NBC? Kudos, it kept viewers from turning the channel

ande
December 19th, 2011, 11:48 AM
Anyone notice on the underwater footage of the 2011 D I T P relays the water looked cloudy?

I encountered the same problem at that pool on relays at 2009 SC Nats
The tiny bubbles from fierce swimming and kicking seem to linger longer than in any pool I've ever encountered, making the water milky which made it hard for me to see the walls and gauge my turns.

Rob Copeland
December 19th, 2011, 11:50 AM
Shame on NBC? Kudos, it kept viewers from turning the channel
I don’t know… Cheering on Lotte Friis as she flirted with the world record in the 800 was one of the more exciting and impressive swims at the meet Saturday. But that’s from a swimmer’s perspective; the general public may get bored with such things.



They definitely spent some $$$ to dress that place up (back drop over diving well, stands over one end of 50m pool, lane covers on end lanes, lighting. Big production. Also, the 2 new scoreboards built for the event and the new starting block tops with the track wedge. They also reversed the lanes, putting lane 1 on the left instead of the right (another concession to the TV crowd).

Allen Stark
December 19th, 2011, 04:09 PM
I just saw some of the swims and I was really impressed by Hansen.He looks more muscular than before.Swimming down Gyurta in the 200 was really impressive.Gyurta did the same to him at the 2004 Olympics and is really known for his finish so that must have been sweet.

Hiro11
December 19th, 2011, 05:05 PM
I just saw some of the swims and I was really impressed by Hansen.He looks more muscular than before.Swimming down Gyurta in the 200 was really impressive.Gyurta did the same to him at the 2004 Olympics and is really known for his finish so that must have been sweet.I think Hansen probably realized that the timing couldn't be better for him.

IMO, if the US gets a guy who can do a sub-59 breast leg in the medley, I think the relay is sewn up. The US surely needs it, if not for the magic of Phelps, it would have been lights out in Shanghai.

One other thing: Shanteau hasn't looked good a while now. I'm a little concerned.

hnatkin
December 19th, 2011, 07:41 PM
Great pool but not great pool maintenance. At GA Tech, temps vary wildly, as does clarity and chemical concentration. I don't remember specific cloudiness at Nats but it's not an uncommon occurrance from what I hear from folks who swim there more regularly.


Anyone notice on the underwater footage of the 2011 D I T P relays the water looked cloudy?

I encountered the same problem at that pool on relays at 2009 SC Nats
The tiny bubbles from fierce swimming and kicking seem to linger longer than in any pool I've ever encountered, making the water milky which made it hard for me to see the walls and gauge my turns.