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nhc
November 10th, 2011, 12:51 PM
The anti-fog coating of goggles seems to work only for a few weeks. Even if you are careful not to scratch it off, it seems to attract dirt and make the lens "foggy" anyway. So, soon you better end up scratch off all the coatings. I just wonder if it makes much sense to get anti-fog goggles unless it's just for a short period of time? I use soapy water to rinse goggles before putting on, and it has worked better without a single fail instance. I'm debating to myself whether to scratch off the coating of my new goggles which have already become "foggy" because I can't touch the lens to clean the dirt that's been attracted by the coating.

pwb
November 10th, 2011, 01:00 PM
I find that soaking in soapy water (baby shampoo & water) along with some gentle applications of saliva from time-to-time can 'regenerate' even dirty, old, anti-fog goggles.

fmracing
November 10th, 2011, 02:34 PM
always amused me when people are so concerned about fog free swimming. Lick your goggles between intervals and go.

nhc
November 10th, 2011, 03:24 PM
You don't need to lick it, let alone between intervals. One single quick rinse with a little soapy water before putting it on, and no worry again during your whole swim session.

What I want to decide is, should I simply scratch off the anti-fog coating from relatively new goggles so don't have to worry about avoiding touching the lens in order to clean it, since sooner or later that'll be the case. Since it's a thin coating, it's never going to work for long anyway. Seems the whole thing about it makes little sense.

lefty
November 10th, 2011, 05:56 PM
always amused me when people are so concerned about fog free swimming. Lick your goggles between intervals and go.

Must be nice to only swim in 100 or 200 yard intervals...

swimslick
November 10th, 2011, 06:49 PM
I kinda agree with fmracing. :agree: Fog is just something that comes with the sport! Or its that nothing ever works/lasts, so why bother and just deal lol. I would NEVER lick my goggles however.....I dip em in the water instead ;-) Heck, I don't even mind if my goggles are little leaky, as a few droplets provide a fog-free environment.

I say stop babying your goggles. Clean em when you feel like it. I doubt gently cleaning them will noticeably affect the longevity of the anti-fog properties, which doesn't last anyway. This is coming from someone who wears $5 goggles though :) :2cents:

nhc
November 10th, 2011, 07:58 PM
Well, so I just went ahead and gave the lens a thorough cleaning with my hand in soapy water. The anti-fog coating must have been gone since I wiped out all the smears. Now it's nice and clear. :)

rtodd
November 10th, 2011, 08:59 PM
With a bit of work I've taken the coating out with alcohol and then I sray with a baby shampoo/water mix just before swimming. stays crystal for the whole workout.

Ex-distance guy
November 10th, 2011, 09:19 PM
With a bit of work I've taken the coating out with alcohol and then I sray with a baby shampoo/water mix just before swimming. stays crystal for the whole workout.

I mean i know its baby shampoo, but that doesn't bother your eyes eventually? Heck I still wear the old $4 sweedish clear goggles that fog like crazy. Do you really need to see whats underwater in hi-def anyway? (avoid perverted comments here). If your clock is so far away you can't see it with some fog, move it closer. I slightly break the goggles seal off my face and dunk my head between sets, (or intervals if they are long enough, like sprints/Vo2max type thing.) and is plenty.

I kind-of find goggle fog to be nice. It helps cut down on visual distractions, like.... and keeps my focus on my feel of the water and stroke/kick/breathing cycles. I would swim with my eyes closed most of the time(LCM especially!) if I could. When I get my own lane I sometimes try and close my eyes a stroke cycle after breakout for the next 3 cycles, focusing on balance/feel; but it feels a little unnatural to swim blind 80% of the lap. Maybe i'm just crazy wasting time, but I still enjoy trying it

rxleakem
November 10th, 2011, 10:11 PM
It is annoying that the coating gives out, only to distort vision more. I buy the optical goggles since my eye sight is so bad, and the anti-fog only lasts a few weeks, especially if I go from pool to open water. I tried the solution you can buy, but no luck. Think I'll try the soap trick.

jaadams1
November 10th, 2011, 10:53 PM
I've been using the same pair of cheapo swedes for so many years dating back to sometime after college (with a little layoff in between starting Masters swimming). Yeah, they're scratched, but they don't fog up or give me many problems.

Ex-distance guy
November 10th, 2011, 11:26 PM
I've been using the same pair of cheapo swedes for so many years dating back to sometime after college (with a little layoff in between starting Masters swimming). Yeah, they're scratched, but they don't fog up or give me many problems.
My favorite goggle in the world: supreme customization of fit, practically indestructible, cost shy of $4 bucks. Only thing that ever needs replacing is the headstrap. IMO, the white standard headstrap that comes with it is the best fitting, but the knots and creases tend rot and weaken quick if you use them daily for a season or so. I used to keep a pair fit just for racing/meets. They fit tighter, were trimmed down and so rarely used they felt special. I like having a set of meet goggles.

nhc
November 10th, 2011, 11:36 PM
Do you really need to see whats underwater in hi-def anyway?

What about backstroke? Don't you need some peripheral vision to swim straight?

Ex-distance guy
November 10th, 2011, 11:39 PM
What about backstroke? Don't you need some peripheral vision to swim straight?
I believe you shouldn't :)
but some goggle fog shouldn't totally blind you.

nhc
November 10th, 2011, 11:55 PM
I believe you shouldn't :)
but some goggle fog shouldn't totally blind you.

Hmmm, then maybe we are also supposed to be able to walk blind :D

jaadams1
November 11th, 2011, 12:31 AM
What about backstroke? Don't you need some peripheral vision to swim straight?


What the heck is backstroke???!?!??!??!! And don't even mention trying to do it outside, and then in the sun even worse!!

jaadams1
November 11th, 2011, 12:32 AM
My favorite goggle in the world: supreme customization of fit, practically indestructible, cost shy of $4 bucks. Only thing that ever needs replacing is the headstrap. IMO, the white standard headstrap that comes with it is the best fitting, but the knots and creases tend rot and weaken quick if you use them daily for a season or so. I used to keep a pair fit just for racing/meets. They fit tighter, were trimmed down and so rarely used they felt special. I like having a set of meet goggles.

I've "upgraded" the rubber strap for a new and improved bungie cord type strap. Doesn't melt either at hot outdoor meets, or in your car all day long at work. :)

Debugger
November 11th, 2011, 05:51 AM
I'm using Arena anti-fog for my Arena swedish goggles. I spread 1 drop per goggle surface and let it dry. It lasts for 1 week.
Once per 3-4 weeks when they get dirty I gently clean them with cotton-wool and alcohol and wash with water afterward then - again anti-fog. The picture is perfect like through the new goggles. :)

For events I'm using Arena Tracks Mirror (used them only twice). Now they are fine but in future not sure if alcohol is a good idea to clean them I'm afraid it will remove mirror coat. :help: Anyone had experience in cleaning mirror coated goggles?

orca1946
November 11th, 2011, 11:37 AM
Our pool water is foggy all by itself!

fmracing
November 11th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Must be nice to only swim in 100 or 200 yard intervals...

I swim 500's, 800, 1000's like this too on intervals, without ANY fog issues... ?

I'd say the only time fog has even come in play is on 75's or any other odd numbered swim to see the clock at the far end. A quick lick, and its just fine again. If it still doesn't work, leave a few drops of water in your goggles after you dunk them and shake your head whenever they fog.

knelson
November 11th, 2011, 01:06 PM
If your clock is so far away you can't see it with some fog, move it closer.

How often is this practical? I'd say in the vast majority of pools the clocks are permanently mounted--or at least effectively so. Not being able to see the clock clearly is the thing that bugs me about foggy goggles. It's only in rare cases that my goggles fog so badly I have difficulty judging turns.

jaadams1
November 11th, 2011, 02:00 PM
It's only in rare cases that my goggles fog so badly I have difficulty judging turns.

Let's hope for a foggy 1500 then. :bolt:

swimshark
November 11th, 2011, 02:27 PM
I have a pair of Vanquishers that are about 3 months old. They fog, I lick and wipe. Today I decided to see if I could find a better pair in my bag. I found 2 brand new ones but was extremely disappointed that they both fogged up after a 50. Brand new Speedos and can't even last a 50. We were doing 200s and by the end of the 200, I couldn't even see the wall to turn. Grrr.

rxleakem
November 11th, 2011, 02:42 PM
Of course, anti-fog is a nice property for open water swims. My goggles started to fog up about 1/3 into the 10k I swam this year, and it was miserable the rest of the way. Even with a kayak escort, it is nice to be able to sight the course as you go.

That Guy
November 11th, 2011, 03:28 PM
Let's hope for a foggy 1500 then. :bolt:

well if you hear me yelling "Wall! Wall!" during your race then you know why.

.........I will try not to do that when you guys are in the middle of the pool, but no promises :lmao:

Ex-distance guy
November 11th, 2011, 04:03 PM
I've "upgraded" the rubber strap for a new and improved bungie cord type strap. Doesn't melt either at hot outdoor meets, or in your car all day long at work. :)

I have tired these too. Indeed they are durable and last forever, makes for a great daily training strap. But they are so bulky! In practice without a cap it isnt bad, but trying to fit all that mass plus the big plastic adjuster clip under a racecap? ouch

drumtolive
November 12th, 2011, 07:20 PM
I went with the toothpaste method. Cheaper than antifog and gets a multi use for taking space up in my gym bag.

I looked up all over the internet for ways to solve the problem and it seems as thoough it is just as simple as surface tension. (ie water 'or fog' beading up on your goggles)

guess some things we just gotta live with

Lump
November 13th, 2011, 10:22 PM
Been using Speedo Anti-fog for the last few years. Follow directions. Works great. Never have to touch my goggles during workouts.

swimmasterusa
November 14th, 2011, 05:12 PM
I tried the soap method today, and it really does work. I just used the soap that is at the swimming facility and it didnt fog up. And I like that it is free as well.

EJB190
November 14th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Who uses goggles? There used to be this regular lady at my pool who would swim with no goggles and with her hair braided. She would cruise too. She must have had eyes of steal to survive the chlorine.

jaadams1
November 15th, 2011, 12:36 AM
I have tired these too. Indeed they are durable and last forever, makes for a great daily training strap. But they are so bulky! In practice without a cap it isnt bad, but trying to fit all that mass plus the big plastic adjuster clip under a racecap? ouch

I just put it on traditional style. Cap first, then goggles. As long as you know how to dive and streamline right it shouldn't be an issue. I've rarely ever had any issues.

swimshark
November 15th, 2011, 07:34 AM
Who uses goggles? There used to be this regular lady at my pool who would swim with no goggles and with her hair braided. She would cruise too. She must have had eyes of steal to survive the chlorine.

Growing up, I practiced with goggles but didn't compete with them. Now my eyes have adjusted to the lack of chlorine and wouldn't be happy if I didn't wear them.