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Fresnoid
January 11th, 2012, 10:24 PM
I was looking at Go The Distance and there are people who have swum 50-60 miles in the first 11 days of the year. I'm curious what they are doing.

rxleakem
January 11th, 2012, 11:04 PM
The easy answer is not yet.
U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums - View Single Post - Are FLOGS viewable?

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ggridley
January 12th, 2012, 10:11 AM
I'm not Don Tatzin, but I'm putting in some serious work. The details of my work are found on my personal site: http://gordsswimlog.blogspot.com/

debaru
January 12th, 2012, 12:47 PM
When you visit your FLOG, there is a Preferences link in the "In This Section" box located at the upper left of the page. When clicking the link, you are provided several options, two of which are:


Allow anyone to view my workout logs
Allow anyone to view my fitness measurements (e.g. my weight log)


Are they not working?

knelson
January 12th, 2012, 01:23 PM
The details of my work are found on my personal site: http://gordsswimlog.blogspot.com/

Very impressive, Gordon! I was interested to see your praise for the Swimsense. I've seen ads for it, but until now haven't heard any first hand reviews.

matysekj
January 12th, 2012, 01:41 PM
When you visit your FLOG, there is a Preferences link in the "In This Section" box located at the upper left of the page. When clicking the link, you are provided several options, two of which are:


Allow anyone to view my workout logs
Allow anyone to view my fitness measurements (e.g. my weight log)


Are they not working?

That's right - you can make these settings on your flog for future use, but you can't yet view other's flogs if they are set to let you view them. When that capability is released, your settings will apply.

mcnair
January 12th, 2012, 02:28 PM
I was looking at Go The Distance and there are people who have swum 50-60 miles in the first 11 days of the year. I'm curious what they are doing.
I guess 8K a day keeps the doctor away; I can't keep up with that, but I imagine it's doable if you put in doubles and swim 4-5000 yards per workout.

knelson
January 12th, 2012, 03:27 PM
I imagine it's doable if you put in doubles and swim 4-5000 yards per workout.

If my goal was purely distance I think I'd choose to do one really long workout rather than doubles. 8K per workout is doable if you're doing primarily long, easy distance. You can do 4,000 yards in an hour if you hold an average pace of 1:30 per hundred. Probably not real exciting, but doable!

slow
January 12th, 2012, 09:58 PM
I assumed most high mileage people were open water specialists, particularly someone training for a big one (like ggridley's program).

On the other hand, Rowdy Gaines trains 8000 yards a day which would take him to ~1650 miles/year.

http://www.rowdygaines.com/fitness/

He states that his yardage is 20% warmup, 20% kicking, 20% sprint sets, and the remainder on interval training.

__steve__
January 12th, 2012, 10:42 PM
He states that his yardage is 20% warmup, 20% kicking, 20% sprint sets, and the remainder on interval training.Thats interesting, I thought the sprinter's scheme was more like 30% smacking oneself, 30% adjusting goggles, 30% resting, and another 30% trying to do math

Fresnoid
January 12th, 2012, 11:12 PM
Thats interesting, I thought the sprinter's scheme was more like 30% smacking oneself, 30% adjusting goggles, 30% resting, and another 30% trying to do math


You forgot the 30% talking about how intense 12.5's on 3 minutes can be.

jaadams1
January 13th, 2012, 01:41 AM
You forgot the 30% talking about how intense 12.5's on 3 minutes can be.

forgot about 100% whining all the time too.:bolt:

The Fortress
January 13th, 2012, 10:04 AM
Thats interesting, I thought the sprinter's scheme was more like 30% smacking oneself, 30% adjusting goggles, 30% resting, and another 30% trying to do math

Absolutely right. We give it 120%!

8,000 daily is a lot of yardage for someone only swimming the 50-100-200 free. Has he always trained like that?

SwimStud
January 13th, 2012, 11:09 AM
That's right - you can make these settings on your flog for future use, but you can't yet view other's flogs if they are set to let you view them. When that capability is released, your settings will apply.

What's the big hold up? I pay my USMS fees! I want to flog-snoop!:bump:

Fresnoid
January 13th, 2012, 12:17 PM
Absolutely right. We give it 120%!

8,000 daily is a lot of yardage for someone only swimming the 50-100-200 free. Has he always trained like that?

I think so. I remember Gaines doing a 500 out of the blue in college and knocking out a 4:18. If you look at the USMS records, he did a 4:07 400 LCM and an 8:38 800 LCM as a 35-39.

SwimStud
January 13th, 2012, 12:26 PM
Thats interesting, I thought the sprinter's scheme was more like 30% smacking oneself, 30% adjusting goggles, 30% resting, and another 30% trying to do math


You forgot the 30% talking about how intense 12.5's on 3 minutes can be.


forgot about 100% whining all the time too.:bolt:

Man the haters are out in force today. It's simple distance or sprinters all have their strengths and places in the pool.
Think of it this way: Sprinters are just Distance swimmers with personalities. We just work harder for less time so we can enjoy the social aspect...:D

Chris Stevenson
January 13th, 2012, 12:42 PM
Man the haters are out in force today.

Sprinter are notoriously high-strung and unable to take a joke. For the life of me, I can't understand why round-the-clock kidding about their inability or unwillingness to work hard could possibly get old.

It won't stop me from contributing to the noise, of course. I figure that by getting a sprinter's blood boiling, I'm actually helping them with their racing. What can I say, I'm a giver.

And let's face it: sprinters just don't spend enough pool time with an elevated HR, so we have to work on it in the forum too.

Chris Stevenson
January 13th, 2012, 12:46 PM
8,000 daily is a lot of yardage for someone only swimming the 50-100-200 free.

Or for any masters swimmer, regardless of event...I was kind of shocked too.

__steve__
January 13th, 2012, 12:46 PM
Man the haters are out in force today.
my contribution was with sarcasm, not hatred, for I would enter a 25 as a target event. Funny thing is my 1.5 year spell of no improvement was just change with PB at practice yesterday. My GTD for Jan is 12 miles, where last year it would be less than half that

Rob Copeland
January 13th, 2012, 01:16 PM
Man the haters are out in force today.
When arenít they? Saint Swithun Day?

Think of it this way: Sprinters are just Distance swimmers with personalities. We just work harder for less time so we can enjoy the social aspect...:DI think us distance folks are just more frugal. For my $4 event entry fee at nationals I can swim my 1650 Free which works out to $13.20/hour, while your 50 Free works out to around $120/hour.

__steve__
January 13th, 2012, 01:26 PM
For my $4 event entry fee at nationals I can swim my 1650 Free which works out to $13.20/hour, while your 50 Free works out to around $120/hour.You get what you pay for

ElaineK
January 13th, 2012, 01:50 PM
I think us distance folks are just more frugal. For my $4 event entry fee at nationals I can swim my 1650 Free which works out to $13.20/hour, while your 50 Free works out to around $120/hour.

It figures (no pun intended) a banker would come up with a rationale like that... :rolleyes:

That Guy
January 13th, 2012, 01:50 PM
flog-snoop!

I will attempt to work this term into a conversation today. If the results are particularly noteworthy then I will update this thread

SwimStud
January 13th, 2012, 01:52 PM
When aren’t they? Saint Swithun Day?
I think us distance folks are just more frugal. For my $4 event entry fee at nationals I can swim my 1650 Free which works out to $13.20/hour, while your 50 Free works out to around $120/hour.

I look at it as a VAS (Value Added Swim). If it were tradeable, the average 50 From a good sprinter would be worth the $120...whereas $4 to watch people plod up and down the pool for an extended period is priced that way because of market saturation.
:bump:





NB Steve I am playing along, it's all for fun ;)

slow
January 13th, 2012, 02:47 PM
Absolutely right. We give it 120%!

8,000 daily is a lot of yardage for someone only swimming the 50-100-200 free. Has he always trained like that?

I am not a Rowdy Gaines fanatic or whatever, but he states that he went 20000 yards/day when he was preparing for Olympics. So I guess to him 8000 would be considered a scaled back effort.

orca1946
January 14th, 2012, 02:29 PM
My shoulders hurt just reading about that yardage!!!!!!:cane:

knelson
January 14th, 2012, 03:57 PM
I've been thinking about Rowdy's yardage and my conclusion is he can handle 8,000 yards better than the rest of us can. Have you ever been to a lap swim and seen that guy who thrashes his way down the pool and has to stop after every lap to rest? You know swimming like that he's never going to be able to swim for long. Similarly, I think Rowdy's stroke is so efficient that him swimming 8,000 per workout may well be like a typical masters swimmer swimming 5,000 or something. He's just that good.