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swimthegoodfight
February 20th, 2012, 12:06 PM
your three favorite open water swims... and why?

by all means, feel free to include personal experiences, e.g. your english channel swim, but try to note three race events that we might register for in 2012.

my three to be elaborated on later are;

Donner Lake Swim, Truckee, CA
Highland Lakes Challenge, Austin, TX
Pennock Island Challenge, Ketchikan, AK

Honorable mentions;

Low Country Splash, Charleston, SC
San Francisco Swims
New York City Swims - NYCSwim & CIBBOWS

geog
February 20th, 2012, 05:59 PM
I'm curious if there are any racers that factor in drafting (positively or negatively) when thinking of their 3 favorite, or if 'lots of body-contact' is a plus. Maybe drafting is a subject for another thread, but how/when did drafting become acceptable? drafting was forbidden as late as 1987, even in triathlons, even in bicycling, even at pro/world class competitions.

evidence: youtube.com/watch?v=sFkAhs4vAsk

as much as one may seek to equate 'open water swims' with 'races', races are first and foremost just that, races. ditto if 'races' is replaced with 'events'. ever the more so when organizers permit/promote drafting, rough-and-tumble, wetsuits, etc, ... not that there is anything wrong with adulterations, i like my eggnog spiked too. but i'm not speaking metaphorically. when it comes to swimming, i'll take mine straight up: my 3 favorite involved solitude and wilderness.

pwb
February 20th, 2012, 07:21 PM
1) La Jolla Rough Water Swim -- I love the all ages atmosphere and watching the Garibadli fish as I race

2) Polson Bay Water Daze (Montana) -- a collander of fresh cherries for the winner, a great BBQ @ the finish and the chance to swim in the most beautiful lake, Flathead Lake, and hang out in my favorite summer part of the world

A tough call for #3 ... Not sure I can pick another above the rest

chaos
February 20th, 2012, 07:32 PM
Well as varied as the OW is, its impossible to narrow it down to 3 favorites without imposing some restrictions or categorization.... so....

Top 3 Events >5k unescorted:
Little Red Lighthouse
Golden Gate to Bay Bridge
Chesapeake Bay

Top 3 Events up to 5k:
Big Shoulders
Coney Island Aquarium 5k
Governor's Island


Top 3 Multi-stage Events
8 Bridges Hudson River Swim
Highland Lakes Challenge
Lake Quassapaug Open Water Swimming Festival

Top 3, 10 mile or less escorted:
Boston Lighthouse
Maui Channel
Kingdom

There are many other "local" swims that have been perennial favorites of mine as part of a full OW season. I think the ones I've listed are worth traveling for

ViveBene
February 20th, 2012, 08:08 PM
2) Polson Bay Water Daze (Montana) -- a collander of fresh cherries for the winner, a great BBQ @ the finish and the chance to swim in the most beautiful lake, Flathead Lake, and hang out in my favorite summer part of the world


This is the 1-miler, on same Sat. as the Long Bridge Swim in Sandpoint?
Flathead is indeed a lovely lake to swim in, from my limited experience at a camping ground on the W side. (It was near a cherry stand!)

My favorites require no driving, and no registration. :)
But that is a different thread.

Hard to improve on Chaos's list. Evmo? Many swims on W Coast, and in Pacific Northwest. Pennock Island Challenge sounds like a hoot, with a blossoming Sitka Sound swim as chaser.

Chicken of the Sea
February 20th, 2012, 08:13 PM
Cool and interesting swim category (not in order and not related to distance)

-Little Red Lighthouse
-Lee Swim
-Nubble Light

evmo
February 20th, 2012, 11:07 PM
The best swims are those that emerge from the human imagination... those that occur when a person decides, "I want to swim from X to Y (and perhaps back to X again) because it would be crazy/fun/cool thing to do."

Among organized races, my favorite (non-marathon distance) is the Cascade Lakes Festival in Elk Lake, Oregon. It's actually 5 races - a whole weekend of open-water fun! My favorite marathon swim is MIMS - truly an unforgettable experience.

Swims highest on my bucket list? Short/mid distance: La Jolla & Waikiki Roughwater Swims, Tiburon Mile, Point to LaPointe, Horsetooth 10K. Marathon swims: Pennock Island, Boston Light, Capri-Napoli, Rottnest Channel, Faros Maratón.

And there are a few percolating in my imagination...

geog
February 20th, 2012, 11:56 PM
The best swims are those that emerge from the human imagination... those that occur when a person decides, "I want to swim from X to Y (and perhaps back to X again) because it would be crazy/fun/cool thing to do."

+1

orca1946
February 21st, 2012, 01:11 PM
Chicago - Big Shoulders cuz it's close
Nobilsville 5K cuz it's warmer water than Lake Mich. in chicago.
Fox lake open water swim cuz I like the taste of gas/oil ??

pwb
February 21st, 2012, 04:16 PM
I've definitely got a lot of swims to add to my open water swim bucket list -- http://forums.usms.org/blog.php?b=20619. Thanks for all the ideas, folks.

aquageek
February 21st, 2012, 05:51 PM
It's not even fair when Chaos chimes in.

Years ago there was The Dammed Catawba River Challenge here in the Charlotte metro area. This was a Summer long series that featured races in the three large local lakes fed by the Catawba River (Norman, Mtn. Island, and Wylie). It was well run and the prizes were good.

A great newer race is the annual race at Lake Lure, which is the home of the USMS One Mile Open Water Championship in 2012. It is beautiful up at Lake Lure. I highly encourage attendance.

chaos
February 22nd, 2012, 05:12 PM
It's not even fair when Chaos chimes in.


You'll need to cross the mason-dixon to fill out your list a bit more...
but the red carpet awaits.

aquageek
February 22nd, 2012, 05:18 PM
You'll need to cross the mason-dixon to fill out your list a bit more...
The water is too cold up there.

chaos
February 22nd, 2012, 06:07 PM
The water is too cold up there.

2 words; SUM MER

Chicken of the Sea
February 22nd, 2012, 06:23 PM
has anyone lurking here done any OW in Australia? it's ridiculous that I didn't take up swimming as sport until moving here and haven't done a single event back home! There seem to be quite a lot going on and my nephews swim OW but of course i only seem to get there in summer (Oz winter) so end up doing DIY events

ALM
February 22nd, 2012, 07:32 PM
The 1999 USMS Long Course Nationals were held in Minneapolis. Paul Windrath, the meet director, offered an open water swim on the last day of the meet. About 60 of us boarded a bus in the pool parking lot and rode about an hour to Stockholm, Wisconsin. We jumped into the Mississippi River and swam across the river to Lake City, Minnesota.

Here is a map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.464416,-92.254601&spn=0.071792,0.151062&t=m&z=13

geochuck
February 22nd, 2012, 07:47 PM
Would it be OK to post my three most hated open water swims??

geog
February 22nd, 2012, 08:07 PM
About 60 of us boarded a bus in the pool parking lot and rode about an hour to Stockholm, Wisconsin. We jumped into the Mississippi River and swam across the river to Lake City, Minnesota.

neat! 60 is quite a troop. did everyone make it (at those temperatures)?

here is a maplink for your swim that makes it easy to measure distances.

Menu -> Make a map
click on map to trace out a route
distance is displayed in the lower right

http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=44.463,-92.267&t=h&z=14

geog
February 22nd, 2012, 08:10 PM
Would it be OK to post my three most hated open water swims??

can't wait to read about them! of course the most hated can also be the best :) unless one is talking about endless laps at La Tuque :)

geochuck
February 22nd, 2012, 08:35 PM
The La Tuque Quebec race in Lac St Louis. I would go to look at the lake and would start barfing.

Next was Narraganset to Blocke Island the - I called it "Was I Shark Bait Race".

Cross Lake Ontario race 32 miles - Water temp started at 72 degrees no finishers temperature dropped to 38 degrees 2 miles from the finish.


can't wait to read about them! of course the most hated can also be the best :) unless one is talking about endless laps at La Tuque :)

geog
February 22nd, 2012, 08:52 PM
The La Tuque Quebec race in Lac St Louis. I would go to look at the lake and would start barfing.

i was not a swimmer when I lived in Quebec :(, or maybe thats :). it took quite a bit of, errrrh, gumption to get in the Serpentine, but even being a foreigner (topside microbes) and spending a couple hours in it total, I didn't suffer in anyway. Plus the Serps is an awesome venue. Definitely worth it.


Next was Narraganset to Blocke Island the - I called it "Was I Shark Bait Race".

before swimming, i was into scuba diving (but still 21st century). we'd go to extremes to _see_ sharks. what year was your RI swim and do you think that the reportedly huge decline in sharks over the intervening years would change that by now?


Cross Lake Ontario race 32 miles - Water temp started at 72 degrees no finishers temperature dropped to 38 degrees 2 miles from the finish.

after 30 miles, that must of stung in more ways than one! it's supposedly one of the most difficult swims for that reason. there is a book titled Marilyn Bell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Bell

.
you've probably met her?

geochuck
February 22nd, 2012, 09:19 PM
A few years ago Marilyn emailed me in 2007 we have had a good gab in 2008 also. The email is below

I know you won't remember my married name, but perhaps you'll remember me from our aquatic days...a voice from the past...It's Marilyn Bell here.
Bryan Findlay sent me your website. It was fun reading your bio and remembering all the good times I experienced at Hamilton Aquatic Club. I also have vivid memories of my trip to Hamilton after I crossed Lake Ontario. In fact somewhere in a box I have a photo of you and I taken on the steps of Hamilton City Hall. You looking splendid in your uniform, me looking shell shocked over all the hoopla.

Fresnoid
February 22nd, 2012, 09:35 PM
The 1999 USMS Long Course Nationals were held in Minneapolis. Paul Windrath, the meet director, offered an open water swim on the last day of the meet. About 60 of us boarded a bus in the pool parking lot and rode about an hour to Stockholm, Wisconsin. We jumped into the Mississippi River and swam across the river to Lake City, Minnesota.

Here is a map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.464416,-92.254601&spn=0.071792,0.151062&t=m&z=13

& remember, the day after 2009 USMS Short Course Nationals in Clovis was the USMS One Mile Championship at Millerton Lake.

http://www.usms.org/longdist/ldnats09/1miresults.pdf

Fresnoid
February 22nd, 2012, 09:46 PM
& remember, the day after 2009 USMS Short Course Nationals in Clovis was the USMS One Mile Championship at Millerton Lake.

http://www.usms.org/longdist/ldnats09/1miresults.pdf

Interesting. I just looked at the times from several other 1 mile championships 2008,10,11 and they were in general substantially slower than the one in Fresno. However, in some cases it was the same people, so it's not like a bunch of ringers skewed the Millerton results. If these are lake swims, why would people swim 3-6 minutes slower for a mile? Sorry if I seem ignorant, but I've only done two open water swims, both only a mile.

geochuck
February 22nd, 2012, 10:15 PM
Could be wind direction and there are currents in lakes. You may be swimming with currents or against currents. I have done a half mile in one direction 7 minutes turned around swam back in the opposite direction in 13.5 minutes


Interesting. I just looked at the times from several other 1 mile championships 2008,10,11 and they were in general substantially slower than the one in Fresno. However, in some cases it was the same people, so it's not like a bunch of ringers skewed the Millerton results. If these are lake swims, why would people swim 3-6 minutes slower for a mile? Sorry if I seem ignorant, but I've only done two open water swims, both only a mile.

geog
February 22nd, 2012, 10:33 PM
i agree, amount of surface chop too. If the draw for the weekend was swimming laps in a 25 yard long pool, then an OW swim is a whole different sport. I'd add year-to-year differences in a participants' motivation, training/peaking for 25yd pool events, psychological factors such as water temperature, different drafting opportunities or rules, illness, true distance. i haven't looked at the venues or the results, so all that's from the hip. Speculation aside, you could email the swimmers directly.

George, think Marilyn Bell would be open to autographing my copy of the book?

matysekj
February 22nd, 2012, 10:40 PM
Interesting. I just looked at the times from several other 1 mile championships 2008,10,11 and they were in general substantially slower than the one in Fresno. However, in some cases it was the same people, so it's not like a bunch of ringers skewed the Millerton results. If these are lake swims, why would people swim 3-6 minutes slower for a mile? Sorry if I seem ignorant, but I've only done two open water swims, both only a mile.

I think course measurement is a big factor. Maybe other courses were a little short or this one a little long? I know, everyone says they use GPS to set their course. They aren't perfect either.

geochuck
February 22nd, 2012, 10:41 PM
I will see if I have her email address saved.
i agree, amount of surface chop too. If the draw for the weekend was swimming laps in a 25 yard long pool, then an OW swim is a whole different sport. I'd add year-to-year differences in a participants' motivation, training/peaking for 25yd pool events, psychological factors such as water temperature, different drafting opportunities or rules, illness, true distance. i haven't looked at the venues or the results, so all that's from the hip. Speculation aside, you could email the swimmers directly.

George, think Marilyn Bell would be open to autographing my copy of the book?

geog
February 22nd, 2012, 10:47 PM
thanks! PM me for spam and privacy issues

ALM
February 23rd, 2012, 09:09 AM
neat! 60 is quite a troop. did everyone make it (at those temperatures)?

here is a maplink for your swim that makes it easy to measure distances.

Menu -> Make a map
click on map to trace out a route
distance is displayed in the lower right

http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=44.463,-92.267&t=h&z=14

Yes, everyone made it. Paul made sure to emphasize, "This isn't a race. It's for fun." The water temperature was in the mid 70s. It was the muddiest water I've ever swum in.

Google Maps has a built-in measurement tool that I frequently use. You can read about it here:
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/09/measuring-distances-in-google-maps.html

geog
February 23rd, 2012, 03:12 PM
sweet, thanks for pointing that out, and it works even when one is not logged in to their google account. from the "Maps Labs" link at the bottom of the sidebar, enable "Distance Measuring Tool", exit back to the map. then click the tiny icon on the map's lower left that looks like a ruler.

swimmer25k
February 24th, 2012, 11:28 AM
Lac St. Jean 32K: Because it's cold and there's nothing like swimming into the harbor at Roberval to 5000+ cheering people.

Atlantic City 37K: The toughest race on the planet. The first marathon I finished

Tampa Bay 42K: The longest honest race in the U.S.

Honorable Mentions:

English Channel (don't let politics and other nonsense distract you. Go into it with a definitive plan and stick with it. Don't be swayed into breaking your routine.)

Key West 20K: Too hot

Lake Travis 20K: Well run. A very tactical course

Seal Beach 10 miler: Simple course with nice conditions.

geochuck
February 24th, 2012, 01:41 PM
Lac St Jean the worst thing that happened to me was my boat rower broke the oars during a storm. I found myself in the middle of the lake lost. I could see smoke on the horizon and started heading for that. That was the day a plane that found me crashed, all died except a baby who was rescued by a swimmer.

geog
February 24th, 2012, 02:05 PM
i'm stunned. 100% miracle, 100% tradgedy. i see the Ottawa Citizen published a news article on it on 1966/08/06 (google)

ALM
February 24th, 2012, 02:50 PM
i'm stunned. 100% miracle, 100% tradgedy. i see the Ottawa Citizen published a news article on it on 1966/08/06 (google)

Please provide the link...

geog
February 24th, 2012, 06:06 PM
newspapers often get things wrong, so i left it off so that he could provide the best links. but since you asked, i'm happy to provide ....

here is the google search

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22lac+st+jean%22+swim+crashed

and here's the news article. Jane Fonda seems to have been in the news that day too :blush:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=U7wyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xuwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1109%2C1624301

geochuck
February 24th, 2012, 06:44 PM
Gille Potvin was in that race but had been pulled out of the race early. He was on the dock when the plane crashed. He dove in and swam out to the plane and tried to rescue the people. He is also in the swimmers hall of fame as a long distance swim coach year 2006. You will also find my brother Tom Park 1968 and my sister Margaret Park Wisnieski 2000 there also.
http://www.internationalmarathonswimminghalloffame.com/honourees-by-year.html

Fresnoid
February 24th, 2012, 09:52 PM
newspapers often get things wrong, so i left it off so that he could provide the best links. but since you asked, i'm happy to provide ....

here is the google search

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22lac+st+jean%22+swim+crashed

and here's the news article. Jane Fonda seems to have been in the news that day too :blush:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=U7wyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xuwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1109%2C1624301

Wait, there were 20,000 people watching a lake swim??

geochuck
February 24th, 2012, 10:17 PM
Population of Roberval was about 11,000, The people would flock to these towns of 10,000 to 20,000 residents to watch the marathon races. I have seen crowds of up to 50,000 at some of these races. The streets were filled with people partying. There were tables, were they would sit eating Pork and beans and sugar pie. There would be 10,000 at Peribonka to watch the start of the Traverse Lac St jean race. Peribonka was a little bush town of about 500 residents. http://www.city-data.com/canada/P-ribonka-Municipalit-.html

Robervalle is a bush town.

Fresnoid
February 24th, 2012, 10:26 PM
Population of Roberval was about 11,000, The people would flock to these towns of 10,000 to 20,000 residents to watch the marathon races. I have seen crowds of up to 50,000 at some of these races. The streets were filled with people partying. There were tables, were they would sit eating Pork and beans and sugar pie. There would be 10,000 at Peribonka to watch the start of the Traverse Lac St jean race. Peribonka was a little bush town of about 500 residents. http://www.city-data.com/canada/P-ribonka-Municipalit-.html

Wow, that must have been a fun atmosphere.

I wonder how such enthusiasm can be re-created.

When was the last time an open water race had any spectators other than family?

geochuck
February 24th, 2012, 10:40 PM
Here is something about the Chicotimi to Bagotville race, up to 30,000 watched the finish of this race every year. Population Bagotville about 13,000 to 14,000 http://books.google.ca/books?id=CtF0DgKT_GcC&pg=PA305&lpg=PA305&dq=marathon+swimming+chicoutimi+to+bagotville&source=bl&ots=42WyGxR5j_&sig=_ynPqDiqpZL7H9NIeGBU_0rgu3g&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zlZIT9e9M-HiiAKPzonbDQ&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=marathon%20swimming%20chicoutimi%20to%20bagotvil le&f=false

dc_in_sf
February 27th, 2012, 12:56 PM
has anyone lurking here done any OW in Australia? it's ridiculous that I didn't take up swimming as sport until moving here and haven't done a single event back home! There seem to be quite a lot going on and my nephews swim OW but of course i only seem to get there in summer (Oz winter) so end up doing DIY events

I'm also an expat Aussie who took up swimming after leaving Oz, but I'm using OWS events as a good excuse for trips home :)

I did the Rottnest Channel swim as a relay last year (http://rottnestchannelswim.com.au/) which an awesome event - 800 teams, solos and duos make for an incredible flotilla of support boats on the water. The water is clear enough to see the ocean floor for pretty much the whole swim, and with plastic Aussie money you can slip a 50 in your suit and walk straight into the pub for a beer or two after crossing the finish.

I'm heading back in May for my first solo distance swim (a 10K) with http://southheadroughwater.com/ very much looking forward to that.

mjtyson
February 28th, 2012, 06:42 AM
My three favorites (out of a whopping six I've done so far):

1) Dart 10K in Dartmouth, UK. First 10K, non-competitive, with a wonderful current to push you along. Although I didn't partake, I think it funny that the Brits had two feeding stations (rubber boats in the water at 4K and 8K) where they served crumpets and tea.
2) Christiansborg Round, Copenhagen, Denmark. Easy 2K around the parliament building. Cold water (14-15C) and friendly people.
3) Cyprus 5K. Despite some peculiarities for me (see my personal non-USMS blog for info), still a wonderful experience. Can you beat swimming in the Med?

My bucket list, in no particular order:

1) Donner Lake. Don't know why, just think it would be neat to swim at that elevation and location;
2) Salt Lake marathon, for historical reasons (see Gord's blog);
3) Swim the Suck (which I'll be doing in October);
4) Pennock in AK. Because I miss Alaska;
5) Highland Lakes Challenge, for the 5 in a row;
6) Loch Ness OW swim, because Scotland is wonderful and the Scots are awesome, and their beer ain't half-bad either;
7) 3 10Ks in 3 seas of Israel. History, again.

I could go on...and on...

Chicken of the Sea
February 28th, 2012, 10:53 AM
I'm also an expat Aussie who took up swimming after leaving Oz, but I'm using OWS events as a good excuse for trips home :)

I did the Rottnest Channel swim as a relay last year (http://rottnestchannelswim.com.au/) which an awesome event - 800 teams, solos and duos make for an incredible flotilla of support boats on the water. The water is clear enough to see the ocean floor for pretty much the whole swim, and with plastic Aussie money you can slip a 50 in your suit and walk straight into the pub for a beer or two after crossing the finish.

I'm heading back in May for my first solo distance swim (a 10K) with http://southheadroughwater.com/ very much looking forward to that.

Nice!!!!!! shouldn't be a problem getting a beer in Watson's Bay after the swim either! The shark nets go all the way around, right? :) I'm gonna have to find a way to sneak back for a swim while the kids are in school....

geochuck
February 28th, 2012, 10:58 AM
In 1956 I had a couple of beers at a bar in Sydney Australia. It was known as the longest stand up bar in the British Empire. I cannot recall what it was called, but it was pretty famous at that time.

Chicken of the Sea
February 28th, 2012, 04:30 PM
In 1956 I had a couple of beers at a bar in Sydney Australia. It was known as the longest stand up bar in the British Empire. I cannot recall what it was called, but it was pretty famous at that time.

haha do you remember what part of town it was?

geochuck
February 28th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Right across the street from Bondi Beach. They also had a great lemon crush with whisky.


haha do you remember what part of town it was?

geog
February 28th, 2012, 05:07 PM
From reading his autobiography, Des Renford likely frequented the establishment. When I think Aussie OW, I think of his 19 EC crossings in 19 attempts (while residing in Australia, no less). The other thing Sydney brings to mind is the easy and cheap access to the uber-beautiful waters a short flight away in New Caledonia, which offers the 22 mile diameter coral atoll of Ouvea, the 9 mile width of Lifou's Baie du Santal, the 28 mile channel between the two, and the 28 between Lifou and Mare.

Kevin in MD
March 1st, 2012, 12:02 PM
Chesapeake Bay Swim - where I got my start
Kingdom Swim
the swim in Sandpoint, ID, very nice location and super clear water.

I don't know that I have done any I DISliked, but those three are my favorites.

Chicken of the Sea
March 1st, 2012, 10:12 PM
I think the only one I ever disliked was the one in Miami. Having said that I'm thinking of doing it this year because there's not much else on in April

Ken Classen
March 2nd, 2012, 11:49 AM
On the pure open water swims not necessarily connected to races I loved adventure swimming on the North Shore of Oahu. Watching the sea life, following turtles, climbing up on out cropping and diving/jumping back in, is just priceless.

I've swam the La Jolla Roughwater swim six times. La Jolla is an awesome extended weekend get-away and yea and they have this big race :-) Plus I just like swimming there even when no racing is involved, it's beautiful and again abundant sea life to keep the swim interesting.

The http://www.horsetoothswim.com/ in Colorado, nothing like swimming a mile high right up against the foothills of the Rocky Mountains.

Honarable mentions:

Aquatic Park, San Francisco - Just love getting in cold water swims here and then hanging out in the Sauna of one of swim clubs. I'm always a bit envious of the folks who live there and get to do it all the time. Speaking of the Bay, like the Alcatraz Challenge race, kinda short but I won in it in 09 and although they may get tired of me telling the story ;-) It's fun to say you swam from Alcatraz and won it as well.

Home training area Chatfield State Park, southwest of the Denver metropolitan area. Another lake tucked up against' the foothills, it's getting crowded with all the interest in OW these days but in that golden evening sun, swimming with your best swim pals, it's always nice.

beireland
March 3rd, 2012, 09:30 AM
Interesting question. I am going to exclude relays because its just a different event swimming with friends--otherwise Trans Tahoe and Maui would be first--or maybe just behind the Fiji 18k relay.

But for open water races, in no particular order, my favorites are the Waikiki Roughwater, and the Bondi to Bronte Race--I've only done the latter once but its a great event. Superbly run, great and interesting course. It takes some strategy and skill to do well. Same for Waikiki except that I have done it more times.

For a 3rd, its a hard choice--it might be the Liberty Island Swim. Well run, very interesting course doing a tight circumnavigation of Liberty Island. Worth a trip to NYC.

Having said that, St. Croix, the La Jolla Roughwater(with all its quirks and complications), Around the Rock(Alcatraz), Corona Del Mar in Orange County, the Santa Barbara 6-mile, the Elk Lake swims in Bend, Oregon, the Bermuda swims, the New York Aquarium 5, Big Shoulders(on a nice day) and the Fiji solo swim are all close behind those 3.

E=H2O
March 7th, 2012, 11:50 AM
1) San Francisco Golden Gate to Bay Bridge 10K
2) Seal Beach 3 mile (back when there was an oil platform that you swam straight out to & turned around)
3) Santa Barbara Semana Nautica 5K

My favorite marathon swim: Catalina Channel
My favorite fresh water swim: Cascade Lakes Series, Oregon

Honorable Mention: Alcatraz Touch & Go (double). There is something special about doing a swim in SF Bay without using a boat.

geog
March 14th, 2012, 08:05 PM
My bucket list

i'm adding this one, to be built after the economy recovers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_torus


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Internal_view_of_the_Stanford_torus.jpg/640px-Internal_view_of_the_Stanford_torus.jpg

mjtyson
March 15th, 2012, 07:15 AM
i'm adding this one, to be built after the economy recovers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_torus



I've been waiting for that my whole life, since first finding one of those Space Colonies at the Legrange Points books in my library when I was 10. Here we are 35 years later and all we've got is a retired space truck and sorta space station.

jgale
March 22nd, 2012, 10:48 PM
Favorite races:
Nubble Light Challenge in York, ME
Rockland Breakwater 3.2 mile in Rockland, ME
North Shore Challenge Ehukai to Waimea on the North shore of Oahu
Chesapeake Bay Challenge 4.4 Annapolis, MD

Favorite adventure/training swims

Swim around Peaks Island, ME
Pine Point to the Pier, Old Orchard Beach, ME
Ferry Beach around Black Point to the Black Point Beach Club, Scarborough, ME
Swim across Kidney Pond in Baxter State Park, Millinocket, ME