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BrandonNE
June 24th, 2012, 05:58 PM
I know its not until next year but does anyone know what the Qualifying time will be??

ALM
June 24th, 2012, 08:07 PM
There will be no qualifying times for the 2013 Pan American Masters meet.

The only Masters meet that I know of that has qualifying times for all events is the World Masters Championships, which is held every two years.

Our Nationals have qualifying times, but only if you want to swim more than three events. Anyone can swim in three events without meeting any qualifying times.

Karl_S
July 1st, 2012, 08:08 AM
There will be no qualifying times for the 2013 Pan American Masters meet.
Does this mean it will be a zoo? Any guesses on how many swimmers will be there? What is the pool complex like? Can it handle a crowd?

ElaineK
July 1st, 2012, 10:53 AM
Does this mean it will be a zoo? Any guesses on how many swimmers will be there? What is the pool complex like? Can it handle a crowd?

All I know is it's an outdoor pool... in Florida... and it will be hot and humid. And, because of that (and my medical issues with heat and humidity), I won't be able to attend. :badday:

Now, I just have to hope Mission Viejo doesn't have a heat wave during Summer Nationals! :agree:

Regarding your question about crowds, YES, it will be a zoo!

ALM
July 16th, 2012, 10:34 PM
Does this mean it will be a zoo? Any guesses on how many swimmers will be there? What is the pool complex like? Can it handle a crowd?

No, it won't be a "zoo." For one thing, it's going to be an eight-day pool meet, so there will be no more than three events each day. The ninth day of competition will be the open water swim (about a 15-minute drive from the pool).

The pool complex routinely hosts age group meets of up to 1,200 swimmers. There is a large field adjacent to the pool, which will become a "tent city" like there was at the Mesa nationals.

You can see an aerial photograph of part of the pool complex at the top of the Pan American 2013 web site (http://www.panamericanmasters2013.org/).

ElaineK
July 17th, 2012, 05:49 PM
No, it won't be a "zoo." For one thing, it's going to be an eight-day pool meet, so there will be no more than three events each day. The ninth day of competition will be the open water swim (about a 15-minute drive from the pool).

The pool complex routinely hosts age group meets of up to 1,200 swimmers. There is a large field adjacent to the pool, which will become a "tent city" like there was at the Mesa nationals.

You can see an aerial photograph of part of the pool complex at the top of the Pan American 2013 web site (http://www.panamericanmasters2013.org/).

Eight days? :afraid:Hotel room $ x 8, hot and humid weather x 8; count me out. :badday: I initially wanted to go (very much!) until I heard it would be outdoors, in the heat and humidity. Now, the thought of 8 days of expenses AND the weather counts me out. I'll save my $ for Mission Viejo and Montreal, instead...

jaadams1
July 17th, 2012, 08:42 PM
Eight days? :afraid:Hotel room $ x 8, hot and humid weather x 8; count me out. :badday: I initially wanted to go (very much!) until I heard it would be outdoors, in the heat and humidity. Now, the thought of 8 days of expenses AND the weather counts me out. I'll save my $ for Mission Viejo and Montreal, instead...

Montreal will be about the same in terms of the amount of days for the meet. You don't have to be there for all 8 days either. Even if it means only swimming one or two of your "favorite" events, and then swimming a couple of other 2nd choice type events. A good 2 or 3 days, and you can get a full schedule of racing in. Since it'll have 300 heats (not really) per event you'll have plenty of rest time between races.

That Guy
July 17th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Eight days? :afraid:Hotel room $ x 8, hot and humid weather x 8; count me out. :badday: I initially wanted to go (very much!) until I heard it would be outdoors, in the heat and humidity. Now, the thought of 8 days of expenses AND the weather counts me out. I'll save my $ for Mission Viejo and Montreal, instead...
Mission Viejo and Montreal will both be outdoors, and in the month of August...

ElaineK
July 17th, 2012, 11:10 PM
Montreal will be about the same in terms of the amount of days for the meet. You don't have to be there for all 8 days either. Even if it means only swimming one or two of your "favorite" events, and then swimming a couple of other 2nd choice type events. A good 2 or 3 days, and you can get a full schedule of racing in. Since it'll have 300 heats (not really) per event you'll have plenty of rest time between races.

Ahhh, but you miss the point, my friend. :agree: (Of course, I didn't make my point exactly clear about Montreal now, did ? :D ) Montreal and Quebec City are on my bucket list; I have been wanting to travel there, even before I knew about Worlds. We plan on spending two weeks up there, traveling around after Worlds.

Florida, in summertime, doesn't rock my boat. The rest time between races is precisely why it will be a BAD situation for me; too much waiting around in the heat. In April, I raced in 4 individual events and 2 relays in a very short time; I'm getting used to that. And, I prefer it. It's the waiting in the heat that killed me in Mesa, at Nationals! So, I want to avoid that scenario again. In Montreal, the average temps. are definitely much cooler...

ElaineK
July 17th, 2012, 11:12 PM
Mission Viejo and Montreal will both be outdoors, and in the month of August...

Mission Viejo and Montreal are also cooler and less humid than Florida! :agree: Besides, I am from Long Beach; I'll be going back to see family and friends. And, as I said to James, Montreal and Quebec City have been on my travel bucket list. :canada:

rodent
July 18th, 2012, 12:15 AM
I was there for the Bumpy Jones meet which was held from June 8th to the 10th, which is the same time of year that the Pan Am games will be held. It was pretty hot but not unbearable at least if you were sensible and stayed in the shade. I also think that motels in Sarasota that time if year are less expensive than Montreal. I want to swim both meets though.

knelson
July 18th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Hey Elaine, maybe you ought to step back and read your posts. Yeah, I know you're talking about your personal reasons for not wanting to attend, but do you really need about five posts discussing how horrible a meet Pan Ams is going to be? How about a little respect for the meet organizers who are working hard to make this a successful meet!

tjrpatt
July 18th, 2012, 11:40 AM
I am stoked about having a Pam Am Masters in the USA. Now, I just hope that I can get the time off or the "fundage" to do. Then again, I think that it is more about time off than fundage since it is in FL. I can get a roommate and split rental cars fees. Plus, you can't go wrong with an OW event at the last day. It will probably only being crowded when the sprint events are going down.

ElaineK
July 18th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Hey Elaine, maybe you ought to step back and read your posts. Yeah, I know you're talking about your personal reasons for not wanting to attend, but do you really need about five posts discussing how horrible a meet Pan Ams is going to be? How about a little respect for the meet organizers who are working hard to make this a successful meet!

OK, cool; I hear ya. But, as you say, they were personal reasons and I was just explaining to James and That Guy why their suggestions wouldn't work for me. ;)

I never said the Pan Ams meet would be "horrible" for anybody else; most people function perfectly fine in those weather conditions. I know it's going to be a great meet and I am sure it will be a successful one. I will be bummed not to be there; especially since many of my teammates are going. :bouncing:

For those who choose to go, I am sure it will be a great opportunity and a memorable event; especially getting to meet so many people from other countries.

Chris Stevenson
July 20th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Florida, in summertime, doesn't rock my boat.

But you live in Georgia? I lived in Florida for five years -- and in college I spent two other summers lifeguarding in Tampa -- and I didn't find the summers any worse than most other places on the east coast, it just starts earlier and lasts longer. The most miserable summer (weather- and traffic-wise) I ever spent was in DC, not Florida.

I like Sarasota, and there are a heck of a lot worse places to be in June. Some of my first and still-favorite masters meets were outdoors in nearby St Pete; in fact, I met my wife at one of those meets. I don't know if I can spend a whole week next year on Pan Ams after doing so this summer for Words, but the weather is certainly not going to keep me away.

ElaineK
July 20th, 2012, 01:23 PM
But you live in Georgia? I lived in Florida for five years -- and in college I spent two other summers lifeguarding in Tampa -- and I didn't find the summers any worse than most other places on the east coast, it just starts earlier and lasts longer. The most miserable summer (weather- and traffic-wise) I ever spent was in DC, not Florida.

I like Sarasota, and there are a heck of a lot worse places to be in June. Some of my first and still-favorite masters meets were outdoors in nearby St Pete; in fact, I met my wife at one of those meets. I don't know if I can spend a whole week next year on Pan Ams after doing so this summer for Words, but the weather is certainly not going to keep me away.

Hey, it beats San Antonio; the first place we moved to when my husband retired! We were there for 41/2 years and the 8 months of relentless heat got to me- and, where I realized my body had heat intolerance problems. It got serious; my body was a mess.

The summers are shorter in Georgia- and, rather than being housebound during the hot months, I have a beautiful recreation center to go to in our adult community, one mile away. The best part is the indoor 25 yard pool, where I do most of my training. That's the key; training indoors in an airconditioned environment. I even got them to reduce the temp. during the summer, so it has hovered around 81; better than the 86 it used to be!:bliss:

So, during the hot months, I have to spend very little time outdoors. I'm afraid the heat and humidity will get to me at the meet. At Mesa, it was a dry heat, but I still got so messed up from it I had to scratch my 200 breaststroke race on Sunday. I didn't even warm up, it was that bad... (You KNOW it's bad if I don't even want to get in the pool; I usually hate getting out!)

Donna
July 21st, 2012, 04:56 PM
Mission Viejo and Montreal are also cooler and less humid than Florida! :agree: Besides, I am from Long Beach; I'll be going back to see family and friends. And, as I said to James, Montreal and Quebec City have been on my travel bucket list. :canada:

I'll be taking the kids with me to Mission Viejo and we will go out early to play at Disney and tour some before the meet as well as at night. Already starting to check out what things/places I want to see.

I may pick your brain for ideas and recommendations.

ElaineK
July 21st, 2012, 05:24 PM
I'll be taking the kids with me to Mission Viejo and we will go out early to play at Disney and tour some before the meet as well as at night. Already starting to check out what things/places I want to see.

I may pick your brain for ideas and recommendations.

Great! All we need now is two gals and a couple of guys from GAJA to join us and we have ourselves some relay teams to swim on! :banana: I'm guessing Malena will go; she goes to everything!

Send me an e-mail or PM; I would be happy to have my brain picked. :agree:
I already have my hotel booked. How's that for planning ahead? :D The guy who took my reservation couldn't believe it. He kept asking, "August, 2013???"

Celestial
July 27th, 2012, 09:28 AM
Eight days? :afraid:Hotel room $ x 8, hot and humid weather x 8; count me out. :badday: I initially wanted to go (very much!) until I heard it would be outdoors, in the heat and humidity. Now, the thought of 8 days of expenses AND the weather counts me out. I'll save my $ for Mission Viejo and Montreal, instead...

Elaine!! Come with me & we can split the hotel room! This facility is awesome! They also have covered bleachers, so you don't need your own tent. It is on the coast, so the breezes are wonderful. The beaches & cute little downtown shops are adorable too. I am definitely going. I might not stay for 8 days, but I am going.

ElaineK
July 27th, 2012, 01:16 PM
Elaine!! Come with me & we can split the hotel room! This facility is awesome! They also have covered bleachers, so you don't need your own tent. It is on the coast, so the breezes are wonderful. The beaches & cute little downtown shops are adorable too. I am definitely going. I might not stay for 8 days, but I am going.

Thanks for the offer, Celeste! Uggghhh! I want to go; my mind is willing but my body? Ohhhh, I just don't know! We were invited to an outdoor concert on Wednesday and I am paying physically for the time spent in the heat and humidity- and, that was in the evening, in the shade, when it wasn't as hot as it will probably be in Florida. Even though I was well-hydrated, I almost passed out. I had to grab blue ice from the cooler and put it on my neck to get my body cooled back down. Huey Lewis sure put on a great show, though! :D

Celestial
July 27th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Totally understand - but we'll miss you! Have you tried those funny little neck wraps (they're filled with some kind of absorbent material) - you get them wet & hang them around your neck - they keep you cool for HOURS! And pretty cheap - I think they run about $10-15 each & come in cute fabrics too.

orca1946
August 2nd, 2012, 11:43 PM
Chicago is as hot , if not hotter this summer than texas or fla !!!!!!

Calvin S
December 7th, 2012, 12:43 PM
Haven't seen anything about registration for Pan Ams. It said the registration would be open 11/6/12, but haven't found any online registration. Am I missing something, or has it just not been posted yet?

matysekj
December 7th, 2012, 02:19 PM
The 2013 Pan-American Masters Championship online entry is open as of this morning at https://www.usms.org/comp/onlineentry.php?MeetID=20130605panjunL. We haven't yet updated the Pan-Ams site to show this, but that update will be done today.

Calvin S
December 7th, 2012, 04:54 PM
The 2013 Pan-American Masters Championship online entry is open as of this morning at https://www.usms.org/comp/onlineentry.php?MeetID=20130605panjunL. We haven't yet updated the Pan-Ams site to show this, but that update will be done today.

Thanks for the update!

secondheart
December 7th, 2012, 11:12 PM
I have never swum in an Inter-national meet. Do they do drug testing? because the meds I take might show up.

aguins
December 16th, 2012, 11:40 AM
I haven't heard of any testing of masters at any swim event.

secondheart
December 19th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Thanks - I figured it would be a long shot just covering all bases

Fresnoid
December 19th, 2012, 11:23 PM
I have never swum in an Inter-national meet. Do they do drug testing? because the meds I take might show up.

As long they don't test for pizza and beer I'm good.

Karen Duggan
January 16th, 2013, 12:38 PM
Knott's Berry Farm is awesome. Cheaper than Disneyland and just as much fun (as far as rides go)- of course there isn't a famous mouse!
I took my son there during the 2006 Nationals in MViejo. It was about 30 min up the freeway from the pool. I recommend it.

Chris Stevenson
January 16th, 2013, 04:44 PM
Thanks - I figured it would be a long shot just covering all bases

They do test for beer, and if you didn't have any the night before they don't let you swim. :bolt:

Britt03
January 16th, 2013, 08:32 PM
They do test for beer, and if you didn't have any the night before they don't let you swim. :bolt:

And if you had more than 3 beer they start reimbursing you for parts of your entry fee :banana: :bolt:

secondheart
January 16th, 2013, 09:13 PM
They do test for beer, and if you didn't have any the night before they don't let you swim. :bolt:
A shot of blackberry brandy is equivalent to how many ounces of beer?:)

aguins
January 16th, 2013, 09:53 PM
Sarasota is a beer drinkin' place. And wine. I'm definitely going....love that pool and swam my best masters time ever there in the 100 back.

pdjang
January 26th, 2013, 07:50 PM
Hey Everybody: I need some help with the Pan Am games. One of my friends would like to register by paper. Can someone help me?

Trondi
January 27th, 2013, 06:04 PM
Very jealous! My most favourite overseas training venue! Wish I could be with you all, however works calls in the UK.

Have a great time - I'm sure you all will! Visitors and residents alike.

Regards

Dave
(the Volcanic Ash refugee!)

Rob Copeland
January 28th, 2013, 09:03 AM
Hey Everybody: I need some help with the Pan Am games. One of my friends would like to register by paper. Can someone help me?Canít you help your friend? Let the friend borrow your computer to enter.

joel schmaltz
February 27th, 2013, 01:20 PM
I just finished my entry.Early entry ends tomorrow (2-28) for those intersted. It will save ya $20.
I know it is on the DZ meet calander.

http://www.dixiezone.org/Meets.htm

swimcat
March 4th, 2013, 03:33 PM
anybody swimming open water at Pan Ams?
Celeste- contemplating going. unsure at this point. i have to get thru YNats first

ALM
March 5th, 2013, 11:23 AM
Hey Everybody: I need some help with the Pan Am games. One of my friends would like to register by paper. Can someone help me?

Paper entries are not being accepted for the Pan American championships. As Rob suggested, perhaps your friend can find someone with a computer to do the entry for him.

Another suggestion, for those who don't like to use their credit cards online, is to purchase a Visa gift card and then use that to pay online.

ALM
March 19th, 2013, 11:27 PM
Here are a few photos of the facility (click any photo to enlarge).

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Bobinator
March 21st, 2013, 02:54 PM
Hey Elaine, maybe you ought to step back and read your posts. Yeah, I know you're talking about your personal reasons for not wanting to attend, but do you really need about five posts discussing how horrible a meet Pan Ams is going to be? How about a little respect for the meet organizers who are working hard to make this a successful meet!

I totally agree with you knelson!!!! I'm very excited about this meet! I have a daughter who is doing her clinicals @ Sarasota hospital and I plan to stay with her and swim the meet!!! Some people on this forum tend to forget that other people have opinions and needs. I'm glad there are different strokes for different folks!

ElaineK
March 21st, 2013, 03:18 PM
I totally agree with you knelson!!!! I'm very excited about this meet! I have a daughter who is doing her clinicals @ Sarasota hospital and I plan to stay with her and swim the meet!!! Some people on this forum tend to forget that other people have opinions and needs. I'm glad there are different strokes for different folks!

Nothing like dredging up a post from July of last year and commenting on it 8 months later! :rolleyes: If you read my reply, it was a point well taken; knelson was right.

mpmartin
April 6th, 2013, 11:33 PM
Does anyone know how many people have already entered the meet so far?

That Guy
April 6th, 2013, 11:40 PM
Does anyone know how many people have already entered the meet so far?
Yes, someone knows.

Fresnoid
April 6th, 2013, 11:50 PM
Yes, someone knows.

Good thing we have you monitoring the situation.

joseferraz
May 5th, 2013, 10:47 AM
Friends,
From organizers e-mail - registration closed for the pan-american with nearly 1700 participants (swimming, synchr, and open water).
It is going to be a really big event...

tpost2
May 5th, 2013, 06:01 PM
Friends,
From organizers e-mail - registration closed for the pan-american with nearly 1700 participants (swimming, synchr, and open water).
It is going to be a really big event...

Isn't that about the same number of participants as 2011 Pan Ams in Rio?