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needer
July 8th, 2012, 12:19 AM
I still have difficulty to get out of water to fly position and therefore I cannot bring my arms forward effortlessly. what should I do to fly easily and prevent fatige. I come out almost up to sholders and with greate ffort.

here is my swimming:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1BrOnP7WzA_U040WXB2eGMxQmc/edit (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1BrOnP7WzA_U040WXB2eGMxQmc/edit)

funkyfish
July 9th, 2012, 07:29 PM
Greetings. To me, it looks like your timing is a bit off regarding when you kick and when you stroke. My daughter had this issue when she was learning fly. One thing I noticed that seemed to really help was when her coach had their team drill with one-arm fly. First they'd do lengths using just one arm, then the other. Then they would do 3 strokes with one arm, 3 strokes with the other, then 3 full strokes, and do repeats of 25yds. It seemed to really help her get the timing/rhythm down. She can now do 50m in a long-course pool without stopping. It took her about 2 months to learn the stroke correctly, and about a month of conditioning/building up strength to get down the 50m pool.

Below is a link to an article I've been looking at in possible preparation for a 200 fly. Good luck and keep at it.
http://www.h2oustonswims.org/articles/vive_le_papillon.html
:banana:

ElaineK
July 9th, 2012, 08:19 PM
Below is a link to an article I've been looking at in possible preparation for a 200 fly. Good luck and keep at it.
http://www.h2oustonswims.org/articles/vive_le_papillon.html
:banana:

Uhhhh-ohhhhh! Wait until That Guy gets ahold of this! :popcorn:

That Guy
July 9th, 2012, 09:52 PM
Greetings. To me, it looks like your timing is a bit off regarding when you kick and when you stroke. My daughter had this issue when she was learning fly. One thing I noticed that seemed to really help was when her coach had their team drill with one-arm fly. First they'd do lengths using just one arm, then the other. Then they would do 3 strokes with one arm, 3 strokes with the other, then 3 full strokes, and do repeats of 25yds. It seemed to really help her get the timing/rhythm down. She can now do 50m in a long-course pool without stopping. It took her about 2 months to learn the stroke correctly, and about a month of conditioning/building up strength to get down the 50m pool.

Below is a link to an article I've been looking at in possible preparation for a 200 fly. Good luck and keep at it.
http://www.h2oustonswims.org/articles/vive_le_papillon.html
:banana: That Guy likes this.

jaadams1
July 10th, 2012, 12:21 AM
That Guy likes this.

Just wait for LCM season to end...then my 200 Fly will return to its true form. :)

orca1946
July 10th, 2012, 08:53 AM
Turns are my friends !!!:D

__steve__
July 10th, 2012, 09:42 AM
Thanks for posting the article by Emmett Hines, just what I needed. One symptom I get, which I believe is from over aching my back to get the shoulders up, is soreness right in the middle of my back over the spine. My quadriceps are also the first to fatigue. This probably means I'm just muscling my way through to compensate for lack of propulsive efficiency, which Hines describes as SAP in the article.

I'll definitely give this a try

markmodjeska
April 9th, 2013, 07:20 PM
Emmett Hines' article on SAP is profound.