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Chris Stevenson
July 16th, 2012, 07:22 AM
The preliminary top ten listings for the 2012 SCY season are now available:

http://www.usms.org/~rectabs/PRELIM_SCY12.pdf
http://www.usms.org/comp/tt/

Please send corrections to Mary Beth at topten AT usms DOT org by July 30. You can also PM me with any questions or concerns.

Note that there are some measurement questions about some meets that have been included in the preliminary list, so some times that are currently in the preliminary listing may be pulled. (And don't ask me which meets, because I don't know.)

TRYM_Swimmer
July 16th, 2012, 11:53 AM
Fingers crossed for my first SCY Top Ten since 1977! (Individual, that is)

orca1946
July 16th, 2012, 12:48 PM
OK I'm not on that list. I must get older or swim FASTER !!!!

Chris Stevenson
July 16th, 2012, 07:53 PM
So someone sent me a PM that brought this issue up: splits appearing in the Top 10. Normally for a split to be submitted for Top 10 consideration, you have to submit a split request (http://www.usms.org/admin/lmschb/gto_rectab_split_request.pdf) by the end of the meet (except for backstroke splits and relay leadoffs, which you have to request before the swim).

But most nationals are different: someone submits split requests for ALL non-backstroke splits (including relays) on behalf of everyone, and these swims get submitted for Top 10 consideration. If you want a backstroke split submitted, you have to manually request it before the swim so that the S&T judge can verify you do a legal finish.

As a FYI, there is a lot going on behind the scenes to make this happen (eg, Walt Reid had to write software to get all the splits in a format to submit for TT consideration; a meet ref has to be on the lookout for fishy splits as races are happening, meet officials have to take special care for relays so that leadoffs can count) so it cannot happen easily at every meet.

Another complication: only relay leadoffs get added to the USMS results database and appear in Current Event rankings (which pulls from the national DB) or your personal results. However, if you ever want a specific split to appear explicitly in the results DB than please let me know. It makes no difference in terms of Top 10 listings, but it does appear in your personal results and some people like that.

If you want to know what I mean by "personal results," I am talking about this form, which queries the USMS results DB:

http://www.usms.org/comp/meets/resultstrack.php

It's a great way to collect and track how you do over the years; it should become more and more useful as we get closer to 100% compliance with uploading meet results into the national DB.

Anyway, just an FYI...many times a year I get emails or PMs relating to this issue so I thought I would explain it here.

Spock
July 16th, 2012, 10:36 PM
So someone sent me a PM that brought this issue up: splits appearing in the Top 10. Normally for a split to be submitted for Top 10 consideration, you have to submit a split request (http://www.usms.org/admin/lmschb/gto_rectab_split_request.pdf) by the end of the meet (except for backstroke splits and relay leadoffs, which you have to request before the swim).

But most nationals are different: someone submits split requests for ALL non-backstroke splits (including relays) on behalf of everyone, and these swims get submitted for Top 10 consideration. If you want a backstroke split submitted, you have to manually request it before the swim so that the S&T judge can verify you do a legal finish.

As a FYI, there is a lot going on behind the scenes to make this happen (eg, Walt Reid had to write software to get all the splits in a format to submit for TT consideration; a meet ref has to be on the lookout for fishy splits as races are happening, meet officials have to take special care for relays so that leadoffs can count) so it cannot happen easily at every meet.

Another complication: only relay leadoffs get added to the USMS results database and appear in Current Event rankings (which pulls from the national DB) or your personal results. However, if you ever want a specific split to appear explicitly in the results DB than please let me know. It makes no difference in terms of Top 10 listings, but it does appear in your personal results and some people like that.

If you want to know what I mean by "personal results," I am talking about this form, which queries the USMS results DB:

http://www.usms.org/comp/meets/resultstrack.php

It's a great way to collect and track how you do over the years; it should become more and more useful as we get closer to 100% compliance with uploading meet results into the national DB.

Anyway, just an FYI...many times a year I get emails or PMs relating to this issue so I thought I would explain it here.

Thanks, Chris. As someone who often goes for split times, this is very helpful.

swimshark
July 17th, 2012, 07:23 AM
Wow, I made it in a relay (so far).

chowmi
July 17th, 2012, 10:11 AM
A big shout out to my friend and former college suite-mate (I borrowed her belts all the time!), Stephanie Stone, for making 12 top tens, 6 in each age group (she turned 45 before nationals). Anyone else? Now is your time to brag if you were lucky enough to age up and make the opportunity to double dip age groups!!!! Let's see a comparison of your times!

Chris Stevenson
July 17th, 2012, 10:17 AM
A big shout out to my friend and former college suite-mate (I borrowed her belts all the time!), Stephanie Stone, for making 12 top tens, 6 in each age group (she turned 45 before nationals). Anyone else? Now is your time to brag if you were lucky enough to age up and make the opportunity to double dip age groups!!!! Let's see a comparison of your times!

Well, there is Erika Braun of course. In the 35-39 age group she had the following:

2 50 Free Erika L Braun 39 NCMS North Carolina 23.53
1 100 Free Erika L Braun 39 NCMS North Carolina 51.58
1 50 Back Erika L Braun 39 NCMS North Carolina 27.52
3 50 Breast Erika L Braun 39 NCMS North Carolina 30.70
1 50 Fly Erika L Braun 39 NCMS North Carolina 25.88
1 100 IM Erika L Braun 39 NCMS North Carolina 59.13

She was 40 by nationals:

1 50 Free Erika L Braun 40 NCMS North Carolina 23.54
1 100 Free Erika L Braun 40 NCMS North Carolina 50.59
1 50 Back Erika L Braun 40 NCMS North Carolina 27.34
1 50 Breast Erika L Braun 40 NCMS North Carolina 30.19
1 50 Fly Erika L Braun 40 NCMS North Carolina 25.24
1 100 Fly Erika L Braun 40 NCMS North Carolina 57.03
1 100 IM Erika L Braun 40 NCMS North Carolina 57.95

That's 7 #1 rankings from one meet in a competitive age group (one swim was a relay leadoff) to go with her 4 #1 rankings in the previous age group. Um, pretty impressive.

ElaineK
July 17th, 2012, 05:55 PM
Wow, I made it in a relay (so far).

:applaud: Congratulations, 'shark!

swimshark
July 18th, 2012, 09:43 AM
:applaud: Congratulations, 'shark!

Thanks. Now to make it in LCM and SCM for the 2012 trifecta!

Chris Stevenson
August 19th, 2012, 08:43 PM
SCY 2012 Top Ten lists have been finalized.

http://www.usms.org/comp/tt/

Congrats to everyone in it. I updated the All American list to include the SCY12 season.

I also scored a "Mythical Championship (http://www.vaswim.org/mythical-champs/)" based on the TT times which is slightly less dependent on the location of the actual meet. Bragging rights belong to:

Zone: Dixie
LMSC: Pacific
Club: NCMS (regional), VMST (local)

Chris Stevenson
August 20th, 2012, 03:49 PM
PS: You can download (http://www.usms.org/comp/tt/pubs/2012_t10_scy.pdf) a nicely-formatted version of the Top Ten lists; you can also order a printed booklet (http://www.usms.org/content/top10print). Swimmers who made the list are eligible for Top Ten patches (http://www.usms.org/content/tt_patches).