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renie
July 21st, 2013, 05:56 PM
:bitching: Ok, tell me please if I'm being petty here. Every summer, I swim outside in the community pool which has 2 lap lanes available in the morning and evenings. HOwever, while swimming, I often have to wait for non swimmers who enter the lap lane and go under the ropes to cross over to the open area, because they are too lazy to use the other two entrances to the pool ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE, about a whole 15 feet away! Today, I ended up in a confrontation with a woman, (sorry, but why is it always the women????) who said she didn't want to walk around to the other side. When I told her that the lap lanes were put in for lap swimming and that crossing while people are swimming is not safe, she laughed at me. Of course, the 3 lifeguards sat and watched in their usual stupor. Do you deal with this in your general outdoor pools? I am throwing in the towel and giving up since the guards will not monitor the lanes and frankly, fighting when swimming is making me very unhappy. :badday:

Chris Stevenson
July 21st, 2013, 07:35 PM
Swim right over them, preferably doing butterfly.

fdtotten
July 21st, 2013, 10:50 PM
Swim right over them, preferably doing butterfly.

Yes - that I would imagine doing that too. I can understand that kind of frustration. When living in Shanghai, I swim at the 50 Meter pool in the Jingan Centre. There were no lane lines during lap/recreational swim, which made the experience similar to OW swimming and it was so crowded with people swimming and standing by the wall at the shallow end. It took careful sighting when swimming laps, following the black lines on the pool bottom, and to do flip turns. On top of all that there would always be few swimmers who randomly would swim ACROSS the pool while no one looked or tried to avoid you and the lifeguards did nothing. So needless to say, eventually my wife and I found a another safer less crowded pool to swim in.

Fresnoid
July 21st, 2013, 11:52 PM
:bitching: Ok, tell me please if I'm being petty here. Every summer, I swim outside in the community pool which has 2 lap lanes available in the morning and evenings. HOwever, while swimming, I often have to wait for non swimmers who enter the lap lane and go under the ropes to cross over to the open area, because they are too lazy to use the other two entrances to the pool ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE, about a whole 15 feet away! Today, I ended up in a confrontation with a woman, (sorry, but why is it always the women????) who said she didn't want to walk around to the other side. When I told her that the lap lanes were put in for lap swimming and that crossing while people are swimming is not safe, she laughed at me. Of course, the 3 lifeguards sat and watched in their usual stupor. Do you deal with this in your general outdoor pools? I am throwing in the towel and giving up since the guards will not monitor the lanes and frankly, fighting when swimming is making me very unhappy. :badday:


What Chris said.

Just keep swimming. Don't stop. If you run into someone who was crossing against traffic, do so vigorously.

BrendaL
July 22nd, 2013, 12:32 AM
I think no good ever comes from people telling other people the "rules" - be it hikers telling mountain bikers to stay off single-track trails (when it's forbidden) or yelling at someone entering the pool in the wrong place. The best you can do is talk to the pool manager and let them know the problem, as them to ask the lifeguards to enforce the rules/policies (if they are, indeed, rules/policies of the pool.) If they're not going to make it an enjoyable place to lap swim, then find another pool.

sunruh
July 22nd, 2013, 08:18 AM
put on your paddles!

Bill Sive
July 22nd, 2013, 08:56 AM
I must be very fortunate. When I swim in seasonal pools the Lifeguards watch me and make sure no one enters the lanes for lap swimming. They have often stated to me they wish there were more lap swimmers. The Lifeguards do their best to keep the lap lanes free of recreational swimmers.

renie
July 22nd, 2013, 10:42 AM
Bill, you are very fortunate.

Brenda, It seems that this pool company feels that lap swimming is a PIA (poor guards have to remove and install lane lines every day!), and therefore, despite the homeowners' management company's instructions that guards should keep the non-swimmers out of the lap lanes, the pool company is disregarding those instructions and guards sit there and stare straight ahead, pretending not to see the rule breakers. We are second class citizens.

Fresnoid, Chris, and Sunruh, I did that in the past, and a woman who refused to get out of the lap lane (so she could do some semblance of water exercises against the wall) claimed I hit her, while I was doing backstroke. She then got out of the pool and called the police! At that time, the guards were very supportive, and told the police that she refused to get out of the lap lane. It's a very stressful experience sometimes. Other times, it is a very lovely experience, depending on whether or not a random cretin shows up at the pool on any given day.

knelson
July 22nd, 2013, 12:37 PM
I did that in the past, and a woman who refused to get out of the lap lane (so she could do some semblance of water exercises against the wall) claimed I hit her, while I was doing backstroke. She then got out of the pool and called the police!

Wow, sounds like quite the group you've got there.

I'm sure the police were really excited to respond to this BS call. File under "first world problems."

arthur
July 22nd, 2013, 01:39 PM
Wow, sounds like quite the group you've got there.

I'm sure the police were really excited to respond to this BS call. File under "first world problems."
There is a guy on my swim team who was lap swimming one day and somehow upset a woman so she splashed him. He splashed her back and continued swimming. She called the police and said he hit her. The police officer looked at him, ~220 lb body builder body, looked at her (no injury whatsoever), laughed and left.

Redbird Alum
July 22nd, 2013, 02:23 PM
If you want a dedicated lap lane, build your own pool. Otherwise, understand that public pools are open to the (gasp) public, and there will be lane crossers, bobbers, floaters and more or less experienced swimmers than yourself in the space from time to time.

renie
July 22nd, 2013, 04:55 PM
Redbird, this isn't really a public pool. It is part of a homeowner's association community. ONly fellow neighbors (in a rather large community of townhomes, single family homes, condos) can use the pool. So these idiots could very well live on my street, yet they act like self-indulgent children. If I could, I would have built my own pool, but that isn't in my future.

chowmi
July 22nd, 2013, 05:29 PM
There is a guy on my swim team who was lap swimming one day and somehow upset a woman so she splashed him. He splashed her back and continued swimming. She called the police and said he hit her. The police officer looked at him, ~220 lb body builder body, looked at her (no injury whatsoever), laughed and left.

If you watch the Police Women of Broward County, then you would know that 90% of the time the person who initiates the call to the police is the one handcuffed and taken away. I would think most calls about someone hitting someone at a pool and then seeing two adults it's pretty obvious what happenned - which is absolutely nothing.

Since the lifegaurds offer you no help, I suggest investing in 2 saftey cones and put them by your lane with a stay out sign. If the lifegaurds say something when you put them up, then kindly ask them to enforce the no-walk zone, because it is not safe for you, the right of way swimmer, who might turn and hurt yourself on a foreign object that is crossing inappropriatetely across your lane. They may then decide it's worth a whistle blow instead of a crazy person with 2 saftey cones in his swim bag. I say this as a joke to lighten the thread, but it might also be a good idea to try! Plus, now you have 2 all-purpose saftey cones for all sorts of non pool use as well!! tee hee!

chowmi
July 22nd, 2013, 05:38 PM
Bill, you are very fortunate.

Brenda, It seems that this pool company feels that lap swimming is a PIA (poor guards have to remove and install lane lines every day!), and therefore, despite the homeowners' management company's instructions that guards should keep the non-swimmers out of the lap lanes, the pool company is disregarding those instructions and guards sit there and stare straight ahead, pretending not to see the rule breakers. We are second class citizens.

Fresnoid, Chris, and Sunruh, I did that in the past, and a woman who refused to get out of the lap lane (so she could do some semblance of water exercises against the wall) claimed I hit her, while I was doing backstroke. She then got out of the pool and called the police! At that time, the guards were very supportive, and told the police that she refused to get out of the lap lane. It's a very stressful experience sometimes. Other times, it is a very lovely experience, depending on whether or not a random cretin shows up at the pool on any given day.

Which begs the question - if the lifeguards saw this all happen, why didn't they blow the whistle and tell her to get out of the lane to begin with. The problem seems a non-enforcement of lap lane swimming by the lifeguards.

renie
July 23rd, 2013, 11:16 AM
Because they sit there in a stupor pretending not to see anything so they don't have to do anything. We have the absolute laziest guards in the state. IMO, it's the fault of the pool company, who do not instruct or ensure that the guards keep people out of the lap lanes that are not lap swimming. My post really was asking if my expectation is unreasonable. It seems like I'm in the minority in this residential community.

Chris Stevenson
July 23rd, 2013, 11:21 AM
My post really was asking if my expectation is unreasonable. It seems like I'm in the minority in this residential community.

No, I don't think it is unreasonable to expect guards to enforce pool rules. At our neighborhood pool the guards will keep ppl out of the lap lanes if they aren't swimming laps.

Calvin S
July 23rd, 2013, 04:03 PM
You need some guards who are also swimmers who care about that sort of thing! I was very strict with this sort of thing back when I lifeguarded/managed pools in high school and college. It isn't unreasonable to expect lap lanes to remain clear of of people not swimming laps!

Martel
July 23rd, 2013, 09:18 PM
We usually have this type of problem with teenagers in the area. Be careful though, if you do get on to them they'll remember you and have all of their buddies do the same thing whenever you swim. Have you talked to the manager about this behavior? Maybe they can have a word with the lifeguards who are supposed to be doing their job.

knelson
July 24th, 2013, 12:34 AM
In defense of the lifeguards keep in mind they are young and may not be comfortable confronting adults like this. It's just too bad the swimmers can't follow the rules. You'd think at the very least they could cross the lanes when you were out of the way!

Bill Sive
July 25th, 2013, 08:38 AM
Went swimming last evening at one of my semi-regular pools. I usually do not swim at this pool during summer, because, like many pools, they accommodate recreation swimmers during the summer months and scale back lap swim time. However, this pool does have posted lap swimming hours during the summer months. I arrived at the correct time and the pool staff cleared away the recreational swimmers, put in lane lines, and made sure I had a lane to swim in.

I believed I thanked the pool staff at least 10 times during the evening for going to the extra effort for me. They had a challening time keeping my lane free of other pool attendees, as they usually do not see lap swimmers during summer. There are lap swimmers all winter. Its a year round pool.

renie
July 25th, 2013, 10:39 AM
Bill, I would thank them if they actually monitored the lanes, but they don't. I bring donuts, buy them ice cream, treat them to lunch the summers that some of the guards actually do their job. This summer has been the worst - the only time they say anything is if a child gets in the lap lane. They refuse to deal with anyone over the age of 14.