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joellasterjr
January 9th, 2014, 07:54 AM
I am 34 years old and love to sprint. The free is my favorite even though I have some growth to do. I practice almost daily, with no formal club, on my own, and try to improve with videos from speedo and advice I find on here. My issue is I have a hard time getting in distance. I see where people swim thousands of yards, like in the challenge. I struggle so hard with this. To swim a 3,000 makes me hate swimming. I also try to judge when I have swam to a point where I am loosing technique as I don't want to practice bad technique at the sake of distance. Are there any other sprinters out there who struggle with this? Will I eventually one day move more towards distance as I age, is it possible now? Is this common. Sometimes I feel bad for only being in the pool for 30 minutes even though I may have swam a 1000 in that time. What gives? I am looking at starting a masters group at my Y very soon, hope this helps. Am I being to critical?

robertsrobson
January 9th, 2014, 08:03 AM
Am I being to critical? Yes.


I am 34 years old and love to sprint. Your opening statement is a good starting point!

One thing I would suggest - as you get older some kind of resistance / strength training will become more important if you want to keep sprinting.

Cokie
January 9th, 2014, 10:01 AM
Would love to help! Email me and we can set up a phone call. Too much to say to type out here! Cokie@usms.org

Allen Stark
January 9th, 2014, 12:08 PM
I you are a sprinter,forget yardage.Long slow swims and maximizing distance per workout are not your friend.Work toward doing some of Leslie's and now Andrew's workouts http://forums.usms.org/forumdisplay.php?115-High-Intensity-Training-by-Andrew-LeVasseur .

Average John Smith
January 13th, 2014, 02:22 PM
Your issue/concern is common. Although people come at the problem from a different past and history of course. I myself struggle to keep my face in the water for an hour (3,000) at a time. However, that is more from my background as a middle distance swimmer and years of staring at the black line. I have no brain cells left. I stand on the side of the pool forever trying to get in. Sprints (50 and 100) are more fun to train for in my opinion and don't monopolize as much personal/family time to prepare for. Although it's fine line to do what is minimal and still retain enough yardage (base) in your trianing season to formulate a small but effective taper for your goal meet. There's a bit of a trick to it. Sometimes just doing 2,500 - 3,000 a workout just doesn't allow you enough to come down very far in order to rest and shave. Intensity of workouts will certainly govern your results though. Make sure you are going something hard every day with an anaerobic mind set to it. I like to do a half dozen 25s nuclear hard with lots of rest... 2min. or so. I agree with you .... I see many masters swimmers do 4,000-5,000/workout, but personally feel it is just practicing swimming slow and buring calories. Race pace is more important and hand speed and timing can sometimes take weeks to get comfortable with before your big race. I'm not fan of the latest high intensity philosophy (mostly due to the lack of career long "base" it can create), but Masters is a different animal than the "real thing" i.e. USA Swimming. Who cares in the end .... have fun.... get in shape.... race a litle ... laugh at yourself as you get slower over the decades and drink a beer with your friends at Masters Nationals.

knelson
January 13th, 2014, 02:28 PM
Sometimes just doing 2,500 - 3,000 a workout just doesn't allow you enough to come down very far in order to rest and shave. Intensity of workouts will certainly govern your results though.

I agree with the second sentence and I think if you are swimming that 2,500-3,000 very intensely then you will have something to 'come down' from. You may not even need to drop the total yardage--just drop the intensity.

__steve__
January 13th, 2014, 06:07 PM
Your issue/concern is common. Although people come at the problem from a different past and history of course. I myself struggle to keep my face in the water for an hour (3,000) at a time. However, that is more from my background as a middle distance swimmer and years of staring at the black line. I have no brain cells left. I stand on the side of the pool forever trying to get in. Sprints (50 and 100) are more fun to train for in my opinion and don't monopolize as much personal/family time to prepare for. Although it's fine line to do what is minimal and still retain enough yardage (base) in your trianing season to formulate a small but effective taper for your goal meet. There's a bit of a trick to it. Sometimes just doing 2,500 - 3,000 a workout just doesn't allow you enough to come down very far in order to rest and shave. Intensity of workouts will certainly govern your results though. Make sure you are going something hard every day with an anaerobic mind set to it. I like to do a half dozen 25s nuclear hard with lots of rest... 2min. or so. I agree with you .... I see many masters swimmers do 4,000-5,000/workout, but personally feel it is just practicing swimming slow and buring calories. Race pace is more important and hand speed and timing can sometimes take weeks to get comfortable with before your big race. I'm not fan of the latest high intensity philosophy (mostly due to the lack of career long "base" it can create), but Masters is a different animal than the "real thing" i.e. USA Swimming. Who cares in the end .... have fun.... get in shape.... race a litle ... laugh at yourself as you get slower over the decades and drink a beer with your friends at Masters Nationals.:bow:

Jazz Hands
January 15th, 2014, 07:30 AM
In swimming, we compete in time to the wall, not practice yards covered. If you want to be a good sprinter, you need to practice sprinting and stop counting distance.

Boomerang
January 15th, 2014, 11:42 AM
COKIE - You are always so helpful, woman!! So nice!!

joellasterjr
January 16th, 2014, 07:50 AM
In swimming, we compete in time to the wall, not practice yards covered. If you want to be a good sprinter, you need to practice sprinting and stop counting distance.

That is so nice to hear! Lord knows at the looks you get sometimes when you have swam 700 yards and get out, only those others don't realize how taxing it was to 50's in 25 seconds.

Jazz Hands
January 16th, 2014, 08:36 AM
That is so nice to hear! Lord knows at the looks you get sometimes when you have swam 700 yards and get out, only those others don't realize how taxing it was to 50's in 25 seconds.

Yeah, exactly. You are basing your training on your goals and your current abilities. I know when I'm doing sprints in a public pool, I'm the only person resting for multiple minutes between repeats. But that shouldn't affect me.

fmracing
January 16th, 2014, 09:44 AM
I agree with the second sentence and I think if you are swimming that 2,500-3,000 very intensely then you will have something to 'come down' from. You may not even need to drop the total yardage--just drop the intensity.
I agree with this. In 2011 I was doing 2000m, 3 times a week and my 100yd "came down" 3 seconds (48.9 ) off my season averaged 100s (51 high) with the shave and rest. I didn't really drop yardage, I just started doing less intensity with more rest, and then focused on the details like crisp turns, starts, and finishes. As they said, don't worry about yards swam if you're working the sprints out.