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Bill Sive
July 12th, 2014, 09:35 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/12/ian-thorpe-gay-parkinson-interview

Did not know this.

orca1946
July 12th, 2014, 11:15 PM
And he is still a very good swimmer in my book.

ElaineK
July 13th, 2014, 05:00 AM
How sad that he felt he had to lie about his sexuality in the past. Unfortunately, much of the world (including most of the U.S.A. and definitely in most of Australia) is still unaccepting of homosexuality. I will never understand why people care so much about the private lives of other people! :shakeshead:

aztimm
July 13th, 2014, 12:48 PM
How sad that he felt he had to lie about his sexuality in the past.:shakeshead:

No one forced him to lie about his sexuality, nor did they force him to date women. He chose to conform to whatever fake standard he chose to. Not only that, but his comments and treatment of the GLBT community in the past were simply horrible.
Greg Lougainis was a successful diver while publicly accepting who he is and embracing the community he is a part of.

It is great that Thorpe is finally able to accept who his is. However, he'll need some major psychological help to move forward.

ElaineK
July 13th, 2014, 02:33 PM
No one forced him to lie about his sexuality, nor did they force him to date women. He chose to conform to whatever fake standard he chose to. Not only that, but his comments and treatment of the GLBT community in the past were simply horrible.
Greg Lougainis was a successful diver while publicly accepting who he is and embracing the community he is a part of.

It is great that Thorpe is finally able to accept who his is. However, he'll need some major psychological help to move forward.

True, no one forced him to lie, but an intolerant society has a great influence on behaviors- good or bad. In this case, evidently, Ian Thorpe's behavior was very bad. I never followed Ian Thorpe and haven't a clue what he had said in the past about the GLBT community. (Admittedly, I didn't even read the entire article Bill posted.) Thanks for filling me in on this, because I find it appalling that he would treat the GLBT community poorly- ESPECIALLY because he is part of that community! It is one thing to deny your sexuality, but quite another to make negative comments and mistreat people in the process.

As for Greg Lougainis, he is one class act! :applaud:

Chris Stevenson
July 13th, 2014, 07:25 PM
I find it appalling that he would treat the GLBT community poorly- ESPECIALLY because he is part of that community! It is one thing to deny your sexuality, but quite another to make negative comments and mistreat people in the process.

Not trying to excuse any such comments or behavior (I am not clued into any specifics), but I don't think that kind of thing is rare. Especially, as you say, in a more intolerant time.

__steve__
July 14th, 2014, 05:06 AM
His negativism maybe part of his denial? I'm just glad his shoulder is healed up and recovered.

thewookiee
July 14th, 2014, 07:04 AM
Nbut his comments and treatment of the GLBT community in the past were simply horrible.
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I have read tons of articles on Thorpe over the years in the Australian papers. In those articles, he has had nothing but praise for the glbt community. What has he done that was so horrible?

Bill Sive
July 14th, 2014, 10:51 AM
I discussed this over the weekend with some friends. We believe Ian's self outing is the beginning of a healing process for himself. If he has angered anyone for his views during this very long denial of himself then those who feel slighted need to begin their process to forgive Ian for any preceived transgression.

Then there is this nice article about Ian I ran across today.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/14/breathe-out-ian-thorpe-and-thank-you

I personally wish the best for him.

aztimm
July 14th, 2014, 10:59 AM
I discussed this over the weekend with some friends. We belive Ian's self outing is the beginning of a healing process for himself.

I'm sure he was about to be outed by someone and did this instead. Usually the way these things work. I'd expect a story in an upcoming issue of Out or The Advocate.

knelson
July 14th, 2014, 12:37 PM
I discussed this over the weekend with some friends. We believe Ian's self outing is the beginning of a healing process for himself.

I really hope so. The guy has had a rough road the last few years.

On a lighter note, Thorpe coming out reminded me of an Onion article. I don't think this is the one I was thinking of, but same idea:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-homosexual-thinks-hes-still-in-the-closet,690/
:)

Bill Sive
July 14th, 2014, 04:15 PM
I really hope so. The guy has had a rough road the last few years.

On a lighter note, Thorpe coming out reminded me of an Onion article. I don't think this is the one I was thinking of, but same idea:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-homosexual-thinks-hes-still-in-the-closet,690/
:)



Hilarious. I need to send that to a couple of people.

On another note.

Gay Athlete "A" to Gay Athlete "B" over the weekend. "Are you going to Gay Games in Cleveland?", "No, that's too Gay for me."

Equally hilarious.

DeniseMW
July 14th, 2014, 06:33 PM
OMG The Onion is hilarious. My favorite articles are "Nation's Dog Owners Demand to Know, Who's a Good Boy" along with "Archaeologists Uncover Ancient Race of Skeleton People." Off topic, I know.

There's lots of reasons people don't come out of the closet, and aztimm may be right that someone was about to out him. But then it's still a well-know secret in the figure skating community that about 80% of the guys are gay and honestly, I don't think anyone really cares what a person is. I care about the closeted lawmakers who push anti-gay legislation.

ElaineK
July 14th, 2014, 10:35 PM
I care about the closeted lawmakers who push anti-gay legislation.

+1! And, how about evangelical preachers who preach what a "sin" it is to be gay but end up being gay themselves? :shakeshead:

DeniseMW
July 15th, 2014, 07:03 AM
+1! And, how about evangelical preachers who preach what a "sin" it is to be gay but end up being gay themselves? :shakeshead:
Yep, and there are a lot of them. But lawmakers have the power to impose their hypocrisy on a wider audience, so they top my list.

tjrpatt
July 15th, 2014, 11:04 AM
I'm sure he was about to be outed by someone and did this instead. Usually the way these things work. I'd expect a story in an upcoming issue of Out or The Advocate.

Oh, I thought that he was outed several years ago.

biestieboy58
July 15th, 2014, 12:18 PM
Good for him for finally summoning the courage. However, even though I am a swimmer myself, swimming has never been seen as an ultra "macho" sport, so I don't think a swimmer coming out while still active in competition would not be greeted with the same degree of shock as say, Michael Sam (football) or Jason Williams (basketball) coming out. It's really a huge non-story, not to mention no big surprise (I heard things).

biestieboy58
July 15th, 2014, 12:20 PM
PS...while he denied who he was, at least he didn't make anti-gay statements.

knelson
July 15th, 2014, 05:16 PM
Thanks for filling me in on this, because I find it appalling that he would treat the GLBT community poorly- ESPECIALLY because he is part of that community! It is one thing to deny your sexuality, but quite another to make negative comments and mistreat people in the process.

When has he done this? Anyone have a reference? I know he's denied being gay in the past, but when has he treated the gay community poorly?

ElaineK
July 15th, 2014, 06:36 PM
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When has he done this? Anyone have a reference? I know he's denied being gay in the past, but when has he treated the gay community poorly?

I have no idea! I was responding to AZTIMM who said he had. I trusted he posted accurate information, so he will have to be the one to provide the reference. I should have said, "...I would find it appalling if he treated the GLBT community poorly..." Sorry I didn't make myself clear. :blush:

thewookiee
July 16th, 2014, 07:40 AM
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When has he done this? Anyone have a reference? I know he's denied being gay in the past, but when has he treated the gay community poorly?

I ask this same question of Tim but he either didn't see the post or ignored it because he didn't have actual results. I have read tons of interviews with Thorpe. In all of those interviews, he was nothing but gracious toward the lgbt community.

knelson
July 16th, 2014, 12:03 PM
Sorry I didn't make myself clear. :blush:

Sorry, I read it as if you were agreeing with aztimm.

ElaineK
July 16th, 2014, 02:06 PM
I ask this same question of Tim but he either didn't see the post or ignored it because he didn't have actual results. I have read tons of interviews with Thorpe. In all of those interviews, he was nothing but gracious toward the lgbt community.


Sorry, I read it as if you were agreeing with aztimm.

Well, then, I take back everything I said until Tim can substantiate what he said with references.