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amhansen317
October 31st, 2014, 08:54 AM
I'm slowly recovering from my second shoulder surgery. I'm eight weeks post-op and can finally get in the water for some kick sets. Anyone have any advice or suggestions to keep things interesting and safe?

Swimspire
October 31st, 2014, 10:51 AM
Sorry to hear about the surgery, but glad you are able to get in the water again on a limited basis.


For now, I would suggest focusing on a variety of different kicking sets that do not require use of the shoulder; for example, kick at side or kicking with hands at side. You can actually take advantage of this recovery period to improve your kick, which in turn will help you take some of the burden off of your arms when you return to normal training.


There are also many drills that only require the use of one arm. You can try single arm drills using the non-injured arm, such as single arm breathing on or breathing away from the stroking side.


Once you've improved significantly, the first thing I would advise is to get your stroke analyzed by a qualified coach. This will allow you to correct any points in your stroke that put undue pressure on the joints. Prevention is key, and swimming with good technique is one way to prevent the injury from returning. I have seen so many swimmers who carry on with continuous nagging shoulder pain and do not make an attempt to change their stroke, or even get it checked out to see if there are any improvements they can make to alleviate the pain. It is worth getting your stroke analyzed!


There are two articles on Swimspire that might be of interest on swimmer's shoulder and why you should get your stroke analyzed: http://www.swimspire.com/swimmers-shoulder/
http://www.swimspire.com/get-stroke-technique-analyzed/


Hope this helps and good luck in your recovery!!

sunruh
October 31st, 2014, 11:03 AM
i should write a book on shoulder recovery from surgery.

first off i need to know what surgery you had. blindly giving advice without knowing is...ummmm...not smart.

Swimspire
October 31st, 2014, 11:46 AM
I'm slowly recovering from my second shoulder surgery. I'm eight weeks post-op and can finally get in the water for some kick sets. Anyone have any advice or suggestions to keep things interesting and safe?

Another note of caution: if you use a board during kicking sets, be particularly aware of how your shoulder is feeling. Although many consider the board to be the usual practice for kicking when you can't use your arms, the board may put pressure on the shoulder joints. Being aware of this is another way to ensure you are staying safe in the water during your recovery process. Good luck!

mmlr38
October 31st, 2014, 01:02 PM
Bummer about the second shoulder surgery. I definitely feel for you. I'm coming off the worst accident/injury of my life that involved shoulder surgery to plate my broken collar bone. I broke my scapula, as well, and 4 ribs. I couldn't move my left arm for about 5 weeks. Then I got back in the water, but I certainly couldn't swim, so I did 3000 yards kicking every day for nearly 6 weeks!

I did pretty much the same set every day -- yes, I'm one of those people who doesn't really get bored or burned out doing the same thing all the time.

I'm not saying this is interesting at all, but here's what I did:
20 x 50 @ 1:00 pickle kick with fins (dolphin kick with arms at your side)
20 x 50 @ :55 free kick with fins (arms at your side)

Take off fins
2 x (
5 x 50 @ 1:10 pickle kick
5 x 50 @ 1:00 free kick
)

To mix it up, sometimes I'd do 75s or 100s.

My core and kick are now stronger than they've ever been!

Good luck with your recovery. Hope you find something that works for you to keep it interesting and to get you on the road to full recovery and swimming again.

poolraat
November 4th, 2014, 11:09 AM
I do all of my (face down) kicking with a snorkel. Some with a board, hands in streamline position on board, some in streamline with no board and some with arms at side. I also do a lot of kicking on my back, both in streamline and with arms at sides. I started using the snorkel because of issues with my neck while looking over a board and I've found that using the snorkel takes a lot of pressure off my neck and shoulders.

Jimbosback
November 4th, 2014, 04:40 PM
I have a repaired shoulder that gets very uncomfortable when kicking with a board. I do my freestyle kicking on my side and all other kicking in streamline. The main challenge is figuring out how to breathe.

poolraat
November 4th, 2014, 04:46 PM
I have a repaired shoulder that gets very uncomfortable when kicking with a board. I do my freestyle kicking on my side and all other kicking in streamline. The main challenge is figuring out how to breathe.

That's why I use a snorkel.

amhansen317
November 5th, 2014, 08:42 AM
Thank you this helps.

amhansen317
November 5th, 2014, 08:44 AM
I'm going to try this. I haven't set out with a workout in mind and just go back and forth until I'm sick of it. Maybe if I have a workout plan to stick to I'll have something to shoot for. Thanks.

Sojerz
November 7th, 2014, 05:06 PM
I haven't set out with a workout in mind and just go back and forth until I'm sick of it.

Ok, that takes care of about 2x50 kick. :D One of Ande's "swim faster" mantras is to kick much more than most of us do - this is your chance!

rs232
December 1st, 2014, 12:16 AM
I'm slowly recovering from my second shoulder surgery. I'm eight weeks post-op and can finally get in the water for some kick sets. Anyone have any advice or suggestions to keep things interesting and safe?

What's your doctor's option?

A while ago I get run over by a car (white Audi A6, felt very heavy) when I fell off my motorcycle and got an AC tear. My doctor said that as long as I don't feel any pain, any activity is fine; that the shoulder joint healed itself even though my healed shoulder is 1" lower than it used to be. During that time, I also researched whether to get surgery and learned a bunch about shoulder.

3 weeks ago, I injured my normal shoulder while playing with my kids. It is pretty serious but I decided not to see any doctors (although I have good insurance) because based on my understanding, I don't think there's much our current medical sciences can do for me. It still hurts, i.e. no full range of motion and the best thing for me is to not do anything. But I decided to go swim anyway. The only stroke that doesn't cause my any pain is the butterfly; so I just swim that. Streamline position causes me pain so I don't do it.

Anyway, this post is turning out to be longer than I anticipated. I probably should have just stated my opinion WRT shoulder: if it doesn't hurt, then it's Ok.

your injury/recovery may be different...and I may even be wrong. But so far so good for me.

ForceDJ
December 3rd, 2014, 10:23 AM
I had rotator cuff surgery acouple years ago (severely torn supraspinatus muscle). Not one to use the kickboard much…afterbeing cleared to swim again by both the surgeon and my PTs, I used the kickboard considerably more than before the operation. I realized that my position in the water while using the kickboard pretty much mimicked a stretching position that my PTs were putting me through. I checked with them and they concurred. In fact…I stacked two kickboards just to get a bit more of a stretch. Worked well! Eventually I gained more range of motion than I had prior to the injury.

Good luck.

Dan