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TRYM_Swimmer
September 12th, 2016, 10:45 AM
Any pre-convention buzz on possible sites for the 2018 Nats?

orca1946
September 12th, 2016, 01:07 PM
Not that I have heard. You do like to plan ahead!

TRYM_Swimmer
September 12th, 2016, 01:30 PM
Next year is out for me, so just checking.

orca1946
September 14th, 2016, 10:58 AM
Why "out?"

tjrpatt
September 16th, 2016, 02:41 PM
all the bids are on the convention site. Orlando is hosting the Pan American Masters Champs in 2018.

mpmartin
September 16th, 2016, 05:54 PM
Where on the convention site? I can't seem to find it.

TRYM_Swimmer
September 17th, 2016, 12:15 PM
Why "out?"

Timing, location, and other travel. Other than that, no excuses. :)

orca1946
September 21st, 2016, 07:00 PM
Well --- is that all. OK that is a list to consider.

ElaineK
September 23rd, 2016, 08:25 PM
Any pre-convention buzz on possible sites for the 2018 Nats?

Now that it has been made "public" at convention, I can say there will be NO 2018 Summer Nationals. Instead, the 2018 Pan Am Games will be taking place in Orlando, July 28 - August 3.

mpmartin
September 23rd, 2016, 09:00 PM
According to the minutes from the Short course nationals will be at Indianapolis, long course nationals have not been picked yet. It appears that the Pan Am Games may be used instead, but from what I read they have until next year's convention to add long course nationals back in. It sounds a little confusing but seems like nothing is written in stone.

orca1946
September 24th, 2016, 06:15 PM
OK yes it is a bit confusing.

ElaineK
September 24th, 2016, 08:50 PM
According to the minutes from the Short course nationals will be at Indianapolis, long course nationals have not been picked yet. It appears that the Pan Am Games may be used instead, but from what I read they have until next year's convention to add long course nationals back in. It sounds a little confusing but seems like nothing is written in stone.

There will not be a long course national meet in 2018. The Pan Am meet will be the USMS sponsored meet instead.

mpmartin
September 24th, 2016, 09:06 PM
This is the section in the minutes concerning The Pan American Games and Summer Nationals: "B. LCM Summer Nationals ** the USMS Board directed Championship Committee to fully support 2018 Pan Ams in Orlando when considering 2018 Summer Nationals bids. C ommittee made the unanimous decision to not award 2018 Summer Nationals at this time , so as not to conflict with Pan Ams (Pan Ams would be within a week of Summer Nationals and both bids received were primarily in same time zone). Additionally, both the Championship Committee and Orlando decided it was not in eitherís best interest to pursue combining 2018 Summer Nationals with 2018 Pan Ams. A concern of the USMS National Office about not awarding the 2018 Summer Nationals was being able to meet USMSís contractual requirements for national sponsors (exposure at two national championships per year). However, Pan Ams has agreed to give USMSís national sponsors that donít conflict with Orlando (host) exposure at 2018 Pan Ams, thereby alleviating those concerns. Additionally, Orlando stated they would permit 18*24 year old swimmers to compete in Pan Ams. They wonít be eligible for Pan Am awards nor be eligible for relays (unless perhaps Exhibition), but their individual times would be USMS sanctioned. The USMS rule book (104.3.6) indicates that Nationals shall be awarded 1*3 years out, so the Championship Committee would still be able to award 2018 Summer Nationals during the next bid cycle, but as of this bid cycle we will not be awarding 2018 Summer Nationals. To be determined is how to address 104.1.2 which states the Championship Committee shall award 2018 Summer Nationals."

knelson
September 25th, 2016, 12:33 AM
Orlando in the summer. Oh joy.

mmlr38
September 25th, 2016, 04:45 PM
Orlando in the summer. Oh joy.
Hah, that was my thought too! I don't particularly like visiting Florida any time of year, but the summer in Florida is about as close to hell on earth as one can get, I think....

jroddin
September 26th, 2016, 09:02 AM
Orlando in the summer. Oh joy.

It was a nice comfortable 99 degrees in Portland last month for Nationals :joker:

pwb
September 27th, 2016, 05:09 PM
Orlando in the summer. Oh joy.
Indoors.

mmlr38
September 27th, 2016, 05:15 PM
It was a nice comfortable 99 degrees in Portland last month for Nationals :joker:
This is true...but as they say: "It's a dry heat!" :agree:


Indoors.
That certainly makes a big difference!

mrubacky
September 28th, 2016, 10:31 AM
Actually, even though it's "indoors" when they have the Rowdy Gains meet, most of the pool is open to the outside. They have several windows that they open and the roof also opens up.

jpetyk
September 28th, 2016, 01:10 PM
I hope I can swing this one! Spring Nats are out for me since son #1 will be graduating HS. I guess it depends on where he decides to go to college if I can make (read: afford) an early August meet!

knelson
September 28th, 2016, 04:54 PM
This is true...but as they say: "It's a dry heat!" :agree:

I was going to say the exact same thing!

pwb
September 30th, 2016, 04:52 PM
OK, for Riverside Nationals, is the Order of Events or most likely Order of Events available yet?

matysekj
September 30th, 2016, 09:31 PM
Order of Events and NQT's will be posted to the nationals area within the next 2 weeks.

jroddin
October 4th, 2016, 08:30 AM
OK, for Riverside Nationals, is the Order of Events or most likely Order of Events available yet?

If you want to be resourceful it is buried in the Championship Committee Minutes from convention:
http://www.usms.org/admin/minutes/champ-2016-9-22-1.pdf

They should be posted more formally on usms.org website by Oct 15.

Jeff

pwb
October 4th, 2016, 09:44 PM
If you want to be resourceful it is buried in the Championship Committee Minutes from convention:
http://www.usms.org/admin/minutes/champ-2016-9-22-1.pdf

They should be posted more formally on usms.org website by Oct 15.

Jeff
Thanks, Jeff. This helps!

orca1946
January 31st, 2017, 11:08 PM
Do we have a date for Spring Nats. ? I am already planing a May vacation just after I swim these.

jroddin
February 1st, 2017, 08:59 AM
Do we have a date for Spring Nats. ? I am already planing a May vacation just after I swim these.

Nationals calendar is on the USMS website:
http://www.usms.org/content/nationals

orca1946
February 1st, 2017, 10:21 AM
OK I found it. SCY OR SCM? I did not know they could change from yards to meters. Who has the final say as to which we swim?