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FlyChoseMe
September 17th, 2016, 10:24 PM
Does anybody know when the dates for the Masters World Championships at Budapest will be announced?

MPohlmann
September 19th, 2016, 02:42 PM
Someone posted: By Erinmoro:

They have been... https://www.fina-budapest2017.com/en/web/guest/schedule

That schedule is not for FINA Masters. It is the elite schedule. Masters will take place after those dates.

FlyChoseMe
September 20th, 2016, 04:43 PM
Those dates have been posted for awhile now. I'm wondering when the Masters dates will be posted or if someone knows when they will be? I know Masters takes place after, just wondering when "after".

Evan Ekman
September 22nd, 2016, 02:51 PM
Can any of the people who have participated in a FINA world championship event give us some input regarding the meet size/ organization/ quality. From what I have been able to gather it sounds like a LOT of people participate. input on warmup space etc... would be great.

ElaineK
September 22nd, 2016, 06:23 PM
Can any of the people who have participated in a FINA world championship event give us some input regarding the meet size/ organization/ quality. From what I have been able to gather it sounds like a LOT of people participate. input on warmup space etc... would be great.

Montreal (in 2014) was a ZOO! :afraid:There were 9,000 +/- participants in swimming, synchronized swimming, diving, water polo, and open water swimming. Since diving was running at the same time as swimming, it was a crowded, crazy mess of people! The warm-up lanes were crazy, the locker room was crazier, and there was very little shade available. Swimmers were crammed under the tent to escape the sun.

Having said all that, I wouldn't have missed that awesome experience of competing at a World Championships! It's what you make of it. It was so much fun meeting people from around the world as well as from USMS. Just today, I ran into the USMS Team Coach, Tim Waud, in the hospitality suite at the convention:
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The facilities and conditions in Budapest may be better or worse. Who know? The past doesn't dictate the future, and each country handles it differently. Just don't count on FINA officials to make themselves useful. The meet was WAY understaffed, probably because the FINA officials were off touring Montreal, and being wined and dined like fat cats. :shakeshead:

Regarding Budapest, I was there in July, and it's a wonderful city. Make sure to walk one of the bridges at night to take in the city lights along the river. Better yet, take an evening cruise on the river to enjoy the city lights. It is GORGEOUS! :applaud:

MPohlmann
September 22nd, 2016, 07:03 PM
Can any of the people who have participated in a FINA world championship event give us some input regarding the meet size/ organization/ quality. From what I have been able to gather it sounds like a LOT of people participate. input on warmup space etc... would be great.

I agree with what ElaineK said about Montreal. There were 6,123 swimmers entered there. I have been to 9 of the last 14 FINA World Championships. The number of participants tends to be overwhelming (especially in Europe). The largest was Riccione, Italy in 2012 with 9,674 swimmers. Kazan, Russia last year was small with 2,640 and very few from USA. The facilities vary greatly depending on the venue. I'm told there will be three pools available in Budapest, with the other aquatic sports not scheduled to conflict with the pool competition.

MPohlmann
November 4th, 2016, 10:08 AM
Qualifying Times (http://www.fina.org/content/17th-fina-world-masters-championships) for FINA Masters 2017 Budapest have been posted, but still no schedule.

MPohlmann
November 11th, 2016, 05:31 PM
Schedule has been posted on FINA website. Totally messes up our travel
Plans. Swimming events August 14-20, 2017.😟

FlyChoseMe
November 11th, 2016, 09:44 PM
Thanks Mary for the update! Now we can start making plans...

MPohlmann
November 11th, 2016, 10:19 PM
Thanks Mary for the update! Now we can start making plans...

Good that you waited. Unfortunately, I have to see if I can change cruise and flight reservations.

smchenry2014
November 15th, 2016, 06:12 PM
This meet happens to line up perfectly with my schedule, so I'm seriously considering going. How much does it typically cost to go to one of these meets? I'm trying to work out the logistics of going.

Xenadiva
May 18th, 2017, 07:38 AM
Is anyone going over from the tri-state area? Other states as well? Looking to sync up with USMS masters swimmers going to Hungary. I know 3 other swimmers so far. It would be nice to meet. :)

SwimDogs
May 18th, 2017, 09:15 AM
Please note the Coaches selected to help with USMS Swimmers:



Head Coach
Richard Garza
Texas Ford Aquatics
Dallas, TX
the.richard.garza@gmail.com


Assistant Coach
Kata Rutherford
Suncoast Swim Fit
Wesley Chapel, FL
katalinrutherford@gmail.com


Assistant Coach
Martin Wagner
Suncoast Swim Fit
Holiday, FL
martinmbls@icloud.com


Assistant Coach
Janelle Higashida
Bozeman Masters
Bozeman, MT
coach@bozemanmasters.org



They may be a good resource.

Xenadiva
May 19th, 2017, 07:47 AM
Please note the Coaches selected to help with USMS Swimmers:



Head Coach
Richard Garza
Texas Ford Aquatics
Dallas, TX
the.richard.garza@gmail.com


Assistant Coach
Kata Rutherford
Suncoast Swim Fit
Wesley Chapel, FL
katalinrutherford@gmail.com


Assistant Coach
Martin Wagner
Suncoast Swim Fit
Holiday, FL
martinmbls@icloud.com


Assistant Coach
Janelle Higashida
Bozeman Masters
Bozeman, MT
coach@bozemanmasters.org



They may be a good resource.


Thank you so much for posting this!!!!!

MPohlmann
May 19th, 2017, 06:14 PM
I understand that the older age groups will compete at the pool on Margaret Island (Alfred Hajos Complex), while the younger age groups will swim at the new Danube Arena facility (Dagaly Swimming Complex). Are there plans for the USMS coaches to be at both locations? I haven't found any confirmation yet of the venue designation on the FINA website, nor what would be considered older age groups versus younger age groups.

SwimDogs
May 20th, 2017, 10:36 AM
If there have been no changes, I received the following message from Katalin Sass, the Competition Director for the FINA World Masters Championship in January:

"There will be two pools in Dagály Aquatics Arena, for 25-54 years old competitors, and will be two pools on Margaret island The Hajós Alfred Complex, for 55-100 years old competitors. So there will be four pools in all for the events. Identical events will be going on in all pools."

The USMS Coaching Staff will be splitting duties, and one representative should be at all facilities at all times throughout the competition. All four coaches should be on-deck during the warm-up periods. Additionally, there should be someone there for the open water competition and the open water technical meetings.

Good luck in Budapest!

Evan Ekman
May 20th, 2017, 04:12 PM
Is anyone going over from the tri-state area? Other states as well? Looking to sync up with USMS masters swimmers going to Hungary. I know 3 other swimmers so far. It would be nice to meet. :)
i'm going. It would be great to have a USA roster. If we wanna get really ambitious, maybe a USA social event of some sort.

Evan Ekman
May 20th, 2017, 04:13 PM
Another thought, does anyone know about relays? Can these be entered as a country? If so, is the coaching staff going to organize this?

MPohlmann
May 20th, 2017, 04:29 PM
Another thought, does anyone know about relays? Can these be entered as a country? If so, is the coaching staff going to organize this?

Relays must be entered and paid for online before the deadline and then verified at the venue before the separate deadline. No, relays cannot be entered as a country. The relay members must all be from the same USMS registered club.

MPohlmann
May 20th, 2017, 04:30 PM
John and Mary Pohlmann from St Louis Area Masters (SLAM) are going to Budapest.

Xenadiva
May 20th, 2017, 04:57 PM
i'm going. It would be great to have a USA roster. If we wanna get really ambitious, maybe a USA social event of some sort.

Hi Evan, can you reach out to me via email? I'm sending out an email to all the swimmers I know are going and the coaches. Trying to get a list coordinated now.

jkyff@optonline.net

Xenadiva
May 20th, 2017, 04:58 PM
Another thought, does anyone know about relays? Can these be entered as a country? If so, is the coaching staff going to organize this?

I pretty sure you have to all be on the same team within a country.

Xenadiva
May 20th, 2017, 05:00 PM
Hi Mary,

Reach out to me at jkyff@optonline.net. I'm assembling a FINA Worlds email in the next day to all the swimmers I know and coaches.

Xenadiva
May 20th, 2017, 05:01 PM
Does anyone know what will happen when we arrive? My first event will be the open water swim and I'm not sure where I'm suppose to go. I'm going to email them in the next day but I was wondering is the new pool home base for the event?

MPohlmann
May 20th, 2017, 05:32 PM
Does anyone know what will happen when we arrive? My first event will be the open water swim and I'm not sure where I'm suppose to go. I'm going to email them in the next day but I was wondering is the new pool home base for the event?

For sure you will have to check-in in order to receive your credentials. I'm betting that will be at the new pool, but I imagine we will hear more from the meet organizers once the entries have closed.

I imagine you know that the open water venue is Lake Balaton in the town of BALATONFÜRED. This is 135 km (1 hour 30 min drive by car), southwest of Budapest.

Xenadiva
May 21st, 2017, 09:11 AM
For sure you will have to check-in in order to receive your credentials. I'm betting that will be at the new pool, but I imagine we will hear more from the meet organizers once the entries have closed.

I imagine you know that the open water venue is Lake Balaton in the town of BALATONFÜRED. This is 135 km (1 hour 30 min drive by car), southwest of Budapest.

Yup, looked at a map awhile ago. Just was curious where I had to go for registration when I arrive, the shuttle for this event etc..... I'll let you know if I find anything out.

Evan Ekman
May 21st, 2017, 10:04 PM
Relays must be entered and paid for online before the deadline and then verified at the venue before the separate deadline. No, relays cannot be entered as a country. The relay members must all be from the same USMS registered club.

bummer. but thanks for the reply

sunruh
May 22nd, 2017, 11:15 AM
I imagine you know that the open water venue is Lake Balaton in the town of BALATONFÜRED. This is 135 km (1 hour 30 min drive by car), southwest of Budapest.

in Ricconni you could use your bus pass to get to the openwater...it was just a few stops down the main road in the adriadic sea

in Montreal it was also a short bus ride to the venue (olympic rowing basin)

for the openwater in Medelin - PanAm's 2015 - it was actually in Guatape and was 2hrs by bus. we had motorcycle police escort us both ways from Medelin to Guatape and back. 1st wave of busses was for 1st wave of swimmers/spectators and 2nd set of busses for 2nd wave of swimmers/spectators. it was actually very well planned out.

i can give lots of tips, but if you want to be in the "medal" wave at worlds...enter with a impossibly fast time. as an example there were 5 in my age group that entered in 30:00 for a 3000m openwater. i entered in a respectible time and didnt make the top 50 wave cut. i tried to appeal being moved to the top50 after placing 3rd in the 800m and was flat out told NO!

like i said, i can give lots of info on what to plan for and what to avoid.
ultimately you have to chose:
1) are you going there to swim fast
or
2) are you going there to have fun
it's an exclusive OR

steve

drip'nwet
May 25th, 2017, 03:59 PM
I am going to Budapest
I am also in the open water and hope there will be transportation there!!!

Xenadiva
May 30th, 2017, 06:39 AM
Just an FYI: Information I received back regarding the OWS:

OPEN WATER SWIM INFO:


When I arrive in Hungary were do I go to pick up my registration materials for the competition?
There will be two accreditation centres, one in Budapest at Danube Arena and one in Balatonfüred. It is suggested that you go to the Danube Arena as you arrive, because from the moment you collect the card, you are able to enjoy the list of advantages the accreditation gives you.

Also, I’m swimming the open water race will there be a shuttle? How will we get to the venue?
If you arrive to Budapest prior the open water swimming events – you will have to collect your accreditation because it will give you the benefit of free use of the return train to the open water swimming venue.

Where will the shuttle be?
This train will take you from Déli Pályaudvar (this is the name of the train station in Budapest) to Balatonfüred and back. Hereunder you can find the link of the location of the station.

https://www.google.hu/maps/place/Budapest-D%C3%A9li/@47.5003112,19.0223902,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4741dc20eecaeeeb:0x66e96 b3418f0661d!8m2!3d47.5003076!4d19.0245789?hl=hu


Is there a schedule for the shuttle?
The schedule is the same for each competition days (10,11,12. August):

Departures (Budapest, Déli-palyaudvar): 7:05am, 9:05am
Arrivals (Balatonfured): 8:55am, 10:55am

Departures (Balatonfured): 6:23pm, 8:23pm
Arrivals (Budapest, Déli-palyaudvar): 8:34pm, 10:29pm

RobH
May 31st, 2017, 02:28 PM
I looked around the FINA website yesterday and tried to find the qualifying times. Does anyone have a link or a schedule of the times needed? Thanks in advance!
Rob

sunruh
May 31st, 2017, 03:19 PM
they are WAY slower than usms nationals.
and nobody in fina cares if you cannot make it either.
in 2012 italy there were 60 guys (thats 6 heats of a 10 lane pool) of my age group alone that did not make the entry time!

took me under 30secs to find

http://www.fina.org/sites/default/files/general/budapest2017_masters_qualtime.pdf

Xenadiva
May 31st, 2017, 03:59 PM
People may not "care" that you make the qualifying times but your times will not be posted after you race if you do not meet them. So while the Qt are lenient there is an incentive for everyone to try to make them. I missed it once in California. Not a great feeling to see NT after your name.

Richard Garza
June 4th, 2017, 08:21 PM
Hey everyone, the conversation about Budapest can continue on a different thread, titled 2017 World Masters Champs in Budapest, info for USMS (http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27725-2017-World-Masters-Champs-in-Budapest-info-for-USMS)

Richard Garza
June 4th, 2017, 08:22 PM
Hey everyone,

There is information about the event posted in this thread
General > Nationals >
2017 World Masters Champs in Budapest, info for USMS (http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27725-2017-World-Masters-Champs-in-Budapest-info-for-USMS)