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sunruh
February 19th, 2018, 11:10 AM
Event 28 Men 100 Yard Breaststroke
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US Open: O 50.04 3/28/2014 Kevin Cordes, Arizona
NCAA: N 50.04 3/28/2014 Kevin Cordes, Arizona
American: M 50.04 3/28/2014 Kevin Cordes, Arizona
SEC Meet: S 51.07 2/17/2018 Caeleb Dressel, Florida
Pool Record: P 50.86 3/27/2009 Damir Dugonjic, CAL
51.74 A
55.39 B
Name Year School Prelims Finals Points
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=== A - Final ===

1 Caeleb Dressel SR Florida 51.07 50.03OA 32
r:+0.66 10.48 23.42 (12.94)
36.67 (13.25) 50.03 (13.36)

sweep them all alway

JPEnge
February 19th, 2018, 11:26 AM
How about the 1:38.1 200 IM too? What a monster.

sunruh
February 19th, 2018, 11:37 AM
yep totally crushed it by 1.2 secs!

Event 10 Men 200 Yard IM
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US Open: O 1:39.38 3/26/2015 David Nolan, Stanford
NCAA: N 1:39.38 3/26/2015 David Nolan, Stanford
American: M 1:39.38 3/26/2015 David Nolan, Stanford
SEC Meet: S 1:40.74 2/15/2018 Caeleb Dressel, Florida
Pool Record: P 1:40.09 3/26/2009 Bradley Ally, UF
1:41.88 A
1:49.09 B
Name Year School Prelims Finals Points
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=== A - Final ===

1 Caeleb Dressel SR Florida 1:40.74 1:38.13OA 32
r:+0.65 21.03 46.04 (25.01)
1:14.41 (28.37) 1:38.13 (23.72)

Allen Stark
February 19th, 2018, 03:43 PM
On the one hand, he only beat the BR record by .01 seconds, on the other hand, he broke the record and he is not known as a breaststroker. WOW!

quicksilver
February 19th, 2018, 03:54 PM
Times are just getting jaw dropping fast.

This could be his year for a sub :40 in the 100 free. ...Last season was less than a finger nail away!

100 Free, Caeleb Dressel, FLO, 40.00, 03/25/17

cinc3100
February 19th, 2018, 08:41 PM
On the one hand, he only beat the BR record by .01 seconds, on the other hand, he broke the record and he is not known as a breaststroker. WOW!

Sprint freesylers are fast and they can translate their speed in other strokes but a 100 yard breast is different than a 50 yard breast which is pure speed.

sunruh
February 20th, 2018, 09:54 AM
On the one hand, he only beat the BR record by .01 seconds, on the other hand, he broke the record and he is not known as a breaststroker. WOW!
he erased a 2 time olympian in breaststroke record.

and

he is the current world champion in the 100 fly

it must really suck to swim 2 off events and go the fastest ever in human history

JPEnge
February 20th, 2018, 10:22 AM
he erased a 2 time olympian in breaststroke record.

and

he is the current world champion in the 100 fly

it must really suck to swim 2 off events and go the fastest ever in human history

Does the man even HAVE off events? Maybe 1650 and 200 back?

Rob Copeland
February 20th, 2018, 01:15 PM
Does the man even HAVE off events? Maybe 1650 and 200 back?I'm sure Dressel's 200 back is solid. And seeing his underwaters I suspect he'd be right at the AR in the 100 back.

JPEnge
February 20th, 2018, 01:31 PM
I'm sure Dressel's 200 back is solid. And seeing his underwaters I suspect he'd be right at the AR in the 100 back.

I don't know, do you think he's a comparable backstroker to Ryan Murphy? The only data point we would have to go on is the 200 IM split - he was 25.0, Nolan's old record was a 24.2 split and Murphy was 24.4 split last year (interesting but completely tangent that Kalisz was 24.5 after only a 23.1 fly split).

I think I'd spitball 44.high/1:41.mid backstrokes. Might be overestimating a little on the 200, it's MUCH less about underwaters than the 100.

Rob Copeland
February 20th, 2018, 03:52 PM
I don't know, do you think he's a comparable backstroker to Ryan Murphy?Okay Murphy's 43.49 is pretty stout. But I'd guess a rested shaved Dressel would be 44 mid or better.

quicksilver
February 20th, 2018, 04:50 PM
Okay Murphy's 43.49 is pretty stout. But I'd guess a rested shaved Dressel would be 44 mid or better.

Just a theory, but maybe he coasted that backstroke leg in order to throw the hammer down the breast-free portions. That's where he left the field in the dust.

I'd venture to say that he's easily capable of getting under :44 for 100 back given how strong his underwater kicks are.
....His coach much just be giddy watching this guy train.

sunruh
February 21st, 2018, 09:04 AM
hmmm lets see here
he owns the:
100yd fly record
100yd breast record
100yd free record
200im record
and of course the 50 free record as well

considering that 60yds of the 100yd back is the same dolphin kick he's already shown to be the worlds best at
i dont think that record is really out of his grasp.
having all 4 stroke 100yd records would be a modern feat unmatched
heck even the 3 he has probably hasnt been done in 50+ years the breast/fly combo is just insane never mind the addition of his free

Windrath
February 21st, 2018, 09:53 AM
I don't know about the 100 back. He has admitted he hates being on his back and dolphin kicking on your back is quite different than on your stomach. I would suspect 45+. I agree with Rob that Murphy's 43.49 is "pretty stout." :)

What I would love to see is a shot at the 200 Free. if he could go 42-46+, it would be equally "stout.".

quicksilver
February 21st, 2018, 11:16 AM
I don't know about the 100 back. He has admitted he hates being on his back and dolphin kicking on your back is quite different than on your stomach. I would suspect 45+. I agree with Rob that Murphy's 43.49 is "pretty stout." :)

What I would love to see is a shot at the 200 Free. if he could go 42-46+, it would be equally "stout.".

Most backstrokers I know - including myself - would say that dolphin kicks on your back are far more effective and natural, than kicking face down.

Anyway ... back to fantasy football talk - yes, a sub 1:30 200 free would indeed be the stoutest swim on record.

JPEnge
February 21st, 2018, 11:28 AM
Most backstrokers I know - including myself - would say that dolphin kicks on your back are far more effective and natural, than kicking face down.

Well of course they are for us backstrokers... that's one of the reasons we are backstrokers :)


Anyway ... back to fantasy football talk - yes, a sub 1:30 200 free would indeed be the stoutest swim on record.

That would be awesome to watch. I bet he'd pull Townley with him under 1:30 too - Haas really seems to race up or down to his competition. Too bad Florida absolutely needs Dressel for the other relays and really shouldn't need him to win the 800 relay considering they already have 3 potential 200 free A finalists on their roster...

__steve__
February 21st, 2018, 12:09 PM
... on the 200, it's MUCH less about underwaters than the 100. Unless it is Chris Stevenson swimming it. I watched his 2:10 200scm bk few yrs back, at least 119 of the 200 meters were solid UW.

But yes, an off event compared to something 100

Doug Martin
February 21st, 2018, 12:24 PM
hmmm lets see here
he owns the:
100yd fly record
100yd breast record
100yd free record
200im record
and of course the 50 free record as well

considering that 60yds of the 100yd back is the same dolphin kick he's already shown to be the worlds best at
i dont think that record is really out of his grasp.
having all 4 stroke 100yd records would be a modern feat unmatched
heck even the 3 he has probably hasnt been done in 50+ years the breast/fly combo is just insane never mind the addition of his free

Bruce Kone just swam his first meet as a 60-64 year old at Auburn, and set national records in the 50 fly (24.36, breaking Rich Abrahams' record) and the 50 breast (28.30, breaking Rick Colella's record). He was .03 off of the 50 back record, going 26.73.

sunruh
February 21st, 2018, 01:37 PM
Bruce Kone just swam his first meet as a 60-64 year old at Auburn, and set national records in the 50 fly (24.36, breaking Rich Abrahams' record) and the 50 breast (28.30, breaking Rick Colella's record). He was .03 off of the 50 back record, going 26.73.
elite doug...ncaa record, us record, american record

Rich Abrahams
February 21st, 2018, 03:00 PM
elite doug...ncaa record, us record, american record

Elite/schmelite. Thatís some amazing versatility and serious quality. Congratulations Bruce!

JPEnge
February 21st, 2018, 03:30 PM
Elite/schmelite. Thatís some amazing versatility and serious quality. Congratulations Bruce!

Yeah, only a couple tenths off of my fly and breast times and he's literally twice my age... no big deal! :applaud::applaud::applaud:

Allen Stark
February 21st, 2018, 10:55 PM
Just watched the 100 BR https://swimswam.com/watch-caeleb-dressel-swims-fastest-100-yard-breast-history/ .Cordes has amazing underwaters, best at 2017 Worlds. Dressel is better. Off the start he STARTED his kick to the surface at the 15M mark. Amazing. would like to see what Peaty could do in 100 SCY. Peaty has relatively mediocre underwaters, so Dressel would start ahead, but would it be far enough ahead?