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Mary R.
January 2nd, 2005, 07:15 PM
In an effort to swim closer to home I started going to a community pool nearby. Just as I was about to get in a lane, the young woman in it stopped at the end, hawked something up, and spit it in the gutter. Then she did it again.

The lifeguard to whom I pointed this out said that the gutters empty into the sewer. I don't think so, and even if the water is sent through the filters, is spitting in the gutter now acceptable?

Wasn't when I swam in college 35 years ago, isn't at the (expensive) club I was trying to substitute for. But is this dirty or am I being foolishly fastidious? Your honest comments please!

centaur532
January 2nd, 2005, 07:47 PM
If I wind up with a mouthful of water, I'm going to spit it out (thank you chlorine), but hocking something up is quite revolting. I hate people spitting period, I think it's a filthy habit, so no, I don't think you're overreacting.

Alicat
January 2nd, 2005, 07:47 PM
Intellectually, I believe that the chlorine kills any bacteria or what nots that come out /off the body. Spitting might be the least concern I would have in a pool...

However, overall, my grown up first impression is that --it is gross. I really didn't care for Amy Van Dyken spitting in her competitors lanes before a race to psych them out, but it is also part of the environment. --Sorry tangent there! Water get reprocessed via the filters and chemicals so I wouldn't worry about contamination.

I feel that I must admit that in my younger days, I was a regular while using the kickboards to be streaming water out of my mouth like some sort of fountain sculpture.

Relax, it’s a pool, only swimmers can appreciate the perfume of ode de chlorine. Unless there is a private pool or you have access to one of those at home current pools for oodles of money, this is what swimmers deal with.

blairbecky
January 2nd, 2005, 08:01 PM
I don't care for spitting in the sense you get a moutful of water and spit it back out. Now if you are spitting out the phlem it's nasty. I know chlorine kills bacteria but I don't want to see a big ol' wad of nasty floating by me. I've been sick for a week and it's really not that hard to get out and go to the bathroom to blow your nose,etc.

lapswimmr
January 2nd, 2005, 09:54 PM
Say nicely to them

"chim pity ma ah say o" Whats that they will repond??

Korean for please dont spit here

CCSR79
January 2nd, 2005, 10:23 PM
I think that's just disgusting, I don't care how much chorine is in the pool!!!

jpjackson76
January 3rd, 2005, 01:37 PM
Gross, and the gutter will not empty to the sewer. Somebody would get fired for a design that wastefully empties water the sewer. Can you imagine the cost invloved?

aquageek
January 3rd, 2005, 01:57 PM
Maybe pools should put spitoons at the end of the lanes. Cause sometimes you just gotta hawk one up.

Rob Copeland
January 3rd, 2005, 03:11 PM
spitting: dirty or am I foolishly fastidious… Isn’t there a middle ground?

Did you also point out to the lifeguards all those people who broke the rules by not taking a shower before entering the pool? Or are you just sporadically fastidious? If you think a little spit is dirty and disgusting, what about all those lotions oils, sweat, fecal matter, bacteria, and fungus that are deposited in pools by all those unwashed millions? And that stuff goes right into the pool water, not the gutter.

And don’t even get me started on people who refuse to brush and floss before entering the pool. All that plaque, halitosis, and gingivitis…

bckstrker
January 3rd, 2005, 03:24 PM
I have to agree with Rob... at our pool there are very few people who take a shower, and those that do probably don't take a soap shower in the nude!!
In my days as a lifeguard that was a major frustration - if I remember right it was a law by the health department to do so.
Now our Y pool has a sign that states "it is encouraged that you shower before entering the pool" I guess everybody wants to be politically correct these days.
As to the spitting - I agree it sounds gross when someday starts hacking 'em up...on the other hand it seems better to get rid of your sputum in the gutter (this can be done without even being noticeable) than having one in your mouth and sooner or later it'll be in the poolwater....
I am more grossed out by the dirty bandaids, clumps of hair attached to who-knows-what floating around my face when I swim.:(

Guvnah
January 3rd, 2005, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by blairbecky
... but I don't want to see a big ol' wad of nasty floating by me. ...

Jellyfish!

At least they don't sting...

Guvnah
January 3rd, 2005, 05:10 PM
As to the original question --

I'd rather see them hocked into the gutter than directly into the pool.

At least, by the time the gutter water gets through the drain and back into the pool, it has been through the filter and through fresh chlorine and all. It's pretty thoroughly processed by then -- and if it's a result of the person having a cold, then even the germs/virus contained therein will be neutralized by the chlorine. It seems to me that the same material added directly into the pool would take longer to be neutralized.

scyfreestyler
January 3rd, 2005, 05:19 PM
I would never "hock up" anything in the pool if I could help it. That would be extremely embarassing from my point of view. I do frequently spit water into the gutter when I stop for a break at the end of the pool. I hope people don't find that to be overly offensive.

Scansy
January 4th, 2005, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Rob Copeland
...If you think a little spit is dirty and disgusting, what about all those lotions oils, sweat, fecal matter, bacteria, and fungus that are deposited in pools by all those unwashed millions? And that stuff goes right into the pool water, not the gutter.

And don’t even get me started on people who refuse to brush and floss before entering the pool. All that plaque, halitosis, and gingivitis…


Originally posted by bckstrker
....I am more grossed out by the dirty bandaids, clumps of hair attached to who-knows-what floating around my face when I swim.

Eeeeeewwwwww. It's time to take up running.......

centaur532
January 4th, 2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Rob Copeland
spitting: dirty or am I foolishly fastidious… Isn’t there a middle ground?

Did you also point out to the lifeguards all those people who broke the rules by not taking a shower before entering the pool? Or are you just sporadically fastidious? If you think a little spit is dirty and disgusting, what about all those lotions oils, sweat, fecal matter, bacteria, and fungus that are deposited in pools by all those unwashed millions? And that stuff goes right into the pool water, not the gutter.

And don’t even get me started on people who refuse to brush and floss before entering the pool. All that plaque, halitosis, and gingivitis…

I don't think it's so much rule breaking as it's just common courtesy. I hate it when runners do it, I especially hate it when baseball players do it, and swimming should be a 'cleaner' sport than that. Well, for that matter, so should every sport. I find it disgusting no matter what. I understand that you do get a buildup of mucus in your mouth and it's got to go somewhere, but still...

Guvnah
January 4th, 2005, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by centaur532


I understand that you do get a buildup of mucus in your mouth and it's got to go somewhere, but still...



This is a key point. And it begs the question:

If it's got to go somewhere, where should it go?

justforfun
January 4th, 2005, 01:44 PM
I say let the stomach acid take care of it!

aztimm
January 4th, 2005, 03:00 PM
On a similar note, there's someone in my swim group who blows his nose out in the shower. He holds one nostril closed, blows for a while, then does the other. Today, I was in the shower next to him and asked him to use a tissue. He said, "But I don't have a cold..." There's so many colds and such going around that I don't care if you have a cold, the shower is certainly not the place to be doing that, don't you think?

aquageek
January 4th, 2005, 03:19 PM
The shower snot rockets disgust even me also. Gross.

justforfun
January 4th, 2005, 03:32 PM
shower snot rocket...AKA: farmer's blow

jim clemmons
January 4th, 2005, 04:22 PM
In the gutter is one thing. As long as it stays there, I'm okay with that.

In the shower? Give me a break, please. Use a tissue, sick or not.

That's just plain sick, lazy, rude and grounds for teammate termination. What's the guy think? It just evaporates before it gets on the walls, the floor or the person next to him?

Jim

Sparky
January 4th, 2005, 08:10 PM
I agree that spitting in the shower is disgusting.

Not showering before entering the pool is, to me, worse than spitting in the pool. Come on, it takes five minutes tops to lather up and rinse before you get in the pool!


Also:

"This is a key point. And it begs the question:"

Sorry to be picky, but you mean it "raises" the question. Begging the question is a term for a logical fallacy.

Not nearly as bad as spitting, but I couldn't let it go by.

Cheers,

Adam

Alicat
January 4th, 2005, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Sparky

Also:

"This is a key point. And it begs the question:"

Sorry to be picky, but you mean it "raises" the question. Begging the question is a term for a logical fallacy.

Adam
Wow that is a flashback to logics class in college...:eek:

SWinkleblech
January 4th, 2005, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Rob Copeland
spitting: dirty or am I foolishly fastidious… Isn’t there a middle ground?

Did you also point out to the lifeguards all those people who broke the rules by not taking a shower before entering the pool? Or are you just sporadically fastidious? If you think a little spit is dirty and disgusting, what about all those lotions oils, sweat, fecal matter, bacteria, and fungus that are deposited in pools by all those unwashed millions? And that stuff goes right into the pool water, not the gutter.

And don’t even get me started on people who refuse to brush and floss before entering the pool. All that plaque, halitosis, and gingivitis…

I think there is a big difference in not thinking about what can not be seen and what is seen. You can tell me about all the disgusting stuff that can be in the pool and yes I will be disgusted and will not want to swim. That is why I don't think about it when I swim. But if I see it, it is right there in my face to remind me how disgusting it can be to swim in a pool. I think that spitting hockers into a pool or anywhere else that others can see just comes down to being courtious of others.:(

mark_varney47
January 5th, 2005, 09:40 AM
I say get rid of the people that get into the pool stinking of cologne.That is far more gross than the spitting:mad:

Guvnah
January 5th, 2005, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Sparky


Sorry to be picky, but you mean it "raises" the question. Begging the question is a term for a logical fallacy.



Sparky -- Thanks. I guess... You probably should be sorry for that post! :)

Your post begs the question:

:) "So what?" :)

After all, this is the US Masters Swimming board, not the US Masters logic discussion board. :) (And especially not the Masters Debaters board!) :)

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