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Xenadiva
June 9th, 2005, 12:42 AM
What would be a good workout for training to do the 1650? How often should you swim a week? How many yards a practice? I'd like to get my 1650 to 25 mins.....I'm at 31 mins now....

aquageek
June 9th, 2005, 11:02 AM
I'd suggest a lot of 300s on a few days. Other days, work on 500s and then on other days, do some broken 1650s with very little rest.

SwiminONandON
June 9th, 2005, 11:25 AM
I am serious when I say if this is a race DO NOT circle swim. You wouldn't believe how many people are so programmed to circle swim that they do it in meets. You'll swim farther that way and over a mile it'll really add up.

ande
June 9th, 2005, 11:38 AM
you don't want a practice,
you want a training plan that consists of many practices.
I wrote a fairly thorough answer at
http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=41337#post41337

Ande


Originally posted by Xenadiva
What would be a good workout for training to do the 1650? How often should you swim a week? How many yards a practice? I'd like to get my 1650 to 25 mins.....I'm at 31 mins now....

Leonard Jansen
June 9th, 2005, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by aquageek
do some broken 1650s with very little rest.

For what little it's worth, here is a method that helps me predict a hard 1650 time:

After a good warm up, do a broken 1650 as follows:
Start with 11 LENGTHS (i.e. 275 yards) , rest 15 secs
do 10 lengths (250 yards), rest 15 secs,
do 9 lengths (225 yards), rest 15 secs,

... etc ...

do 2 lengths (50 yards), rest 15 sec
do 1 length (end)

Take the elapsed time and subtract 2:30 from it (2:30 is your total rest time (10 X 15 secs).) This is your net time. Add 30 seconds to your net time and that is your predicted time for a hard 1650.

Example:
You do the broken 1650 above in 24:35 elapsed time.
Your net time is 24:35 - 2:30 = 22:05
Your predicted time for a hard 1650 is 22:05 + :30 = 22:35

The "Your mileage may vary" section:
Having said that, keep in mind that I only do open water races and that when I say a "hard" 1650, it means if I try to go all out in practice - in an actual meet, perhaps it would be different. Also, too keep in mind that this is what seems to work for me within my limitations: lousy raw speed, good endurance, open turns, etc. Regardless, I think the overall method is valid and with some experience, you can determine your own incremental value instead of the :30 seconds that works for me. It also seems to work for me as a good overall indicator of fitness for open water races in the 1 mile to 5k-ish range.

-LBJ