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ande
September 18th, 2006, 03:14 PM
I would like to see Dolphin kicking be introduced, approved, and recognized as competitive swimming's 5th stroke.

What do you think?


if I wrote the dolphin kicking rules
they'd be:

the swimmer needs to dolphin kick, her legs have to move together in a dolphin manner

the only permitted arm use is as follows:
the swimmer may take one arm stroke before turning and
the swimmer may move one or both arms to her side once per length,
(should a half breastroke stroke be permitted for athletes who elect to kick on their bellies?)

Arm Position:
Swimmers may be streamlined, (both arms above their heads)
Swimmers may have both arms at their side or
one arm forward and one arm by her side

Body Position:
A swimmer can kick on her back, either side or belly
A swimmer may change positions at any time

Start:
From blocks, just like freestyle

Turns:
the swimmer may take one arm stroke going in to a turn similar to backstroke turn rules
The swimmer may touch the wall with their hands or feet

Touch:
can touch with one or 2 hands

Should the 15 meters underwater rule apply?

jonblank
September 19th, 2006, 06:31 PM
Two concerns with adding events:
1. added length of already-interminable meets
2. would the medley relay then consist of 5 legs, so that (like long course 50's) the start and finish are at alternate ends of the pool?

Anyway, if we're discussing adding events, why not SIDESTROKE?
I believe it's taught in Red Cross swim lessons, and many older individuals seem to enjoy it.

That way we'd have:
butterfly and dolphin kick for the sinuous,
"Australian crawl" for those Down Under,
backstroke for those who don't enjoy getting their face wet,
sidestroke for those who like to live on the edge, and
BREASTSTROKE for the real athletes!

Allen Stark
September 20th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Jon is certainly right about breaststroke.

DanSad
September 21st, 2006, 10:49 AM
Ande - Can you time yourself in practice for 100 yds dolphin kicking, using your rules, and let us know the time?

dorothyrde
September 21st, 2006, 11:10 AM
I would rather watch grass grow than someone dolphin kick a whole race, bleh.

ande
September 21st, 2006, 02:13 PM
Will do

ande


Originally posted by DanSad
Ande - Can you time yourself in practice for 100 yds dolphin kicking, using your rules, and let us know the time?

knelson
September 21st, 2006, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by dorothyrde
I would rather watch grass grow than someone dolphin kick a whole race, bleh.

That's my opinion, too. Seeing someone swim a race underwater isn't very exciting. I suspect that's a good part of the reason why the 15m rules was put into place. I also have some safety concerns about this "stroke." You're obviously at a decided advantage if you can do the entire race underwater, so you're going to have people trying to hold their breath as long as possible. That seems like an accident waiting to happen to me.

And if there is a fifth stroke added wouldn't they need to change IM to include this stroke? They did when fly became a separate stroke, after all.

DanSad
September 21st, 2006, 02:50 PM
How do you turn doing dolphin kick while staying underwater?

knelson
September 21st, 2006, 04:41 PM
You touch the wall and push off just like you would on the surface in an open turn.