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CreamPuff
December 6th, 2006, 01:24 PM
In a crazy (and fruitless) attempt to recapture my youth, I do look forward to the holiday break when inevitably we all have at least one set or one practice where our master's coach throws us a doozy set (and we may have a 2 hour practice instead of the usual 1.5 hour practice) - in an attempt to either try and get us in shape or simply have a chuckle or help us justify eating that extra piece of fruitcake.

Does anyone have any crazy/ insanely long and challenging set they would like to share?

I'll start. We had sort of a post thanksgiving distance free set that we just did:

100 FR @ 1:15
200 FR @ 2:30
300 FR @ 3:45
400 FR @ 5:00
500 FR @ 6:15

Three times through. All on 1:15 pace. (Goal is to do eventually make at 1:10 pace).
Total yardage is 4500 for the set.

Has anyone done the 100x100s? And at what pace? I'm sort of interested in trying that.

Muppet
December 6th, 2006, 01:30 PM
I dont remember much of the details, but I remember some American U swimmers back 10 years ago would talk about their 50 50's of fly...

5 sets of 10 or something like that... dont remember what the interval was; probably something like :60 cause they knew it was tough, but there were apparently trash cans at each end of the lanes...

swimr4life
December 6th, 2006, 01:48 PM
In a crazy (and fruitless) attempt to recapture my youth, I do look forward to the holiday break when inevitably we all have at least one set or one practice where our master's coach throws us a doozy set (and we may have a 2 hour practice instead of the usual 1.5 hour practice) - in an attempt to either try and get us in shape or simply have a chuckle or help us justify eating that extra piece of fruitcake.

Does anyone have any crazy/ insanely long and challenging set they would like to share?

I'll start. We had sort of a post thanksgiving distance free set that we just did:

100 FR @ 1:15
200 FR @ 2:30
300 FR @ 3:45
400 FR @ 5:00
500 FR @ 6:15

Three times through. All on 1:15 pace. (Goal is to do eventually make at 1:10 pace).
Total yardage is 4500 for the set.

Has anyone done the 100x100s? And at what pace? I'm sort of interested in trying that.

I was soooo glad I missed practice that morning!!!! That is a sprinter's nightmare! Way to go for making that interval the whole way through. You are one tough cookie!! :bow:

CreamPuff
December 6th, 2006, 01:54 PM
I was soooo glad I missed practice that morning!!!! That is a sprinter's nightmare! Way to go for making that interval the whole way through. You are one tough cookie!! :bow:

I was so sorry that you were not there that day!! Landon was instrumental in my making that set. He's so long and smooth regardless of what's thrown at him. Every time I would feel myself tightening up, I'd just look over and see how he was swimming and I'd lengthen my stroke and focus on really rotating. I tell you, he's my own personal training video. I attribute my better breaststroke to him (and our coach Kim!)

CreamPuff
December 6th, 2006, 01:56 PM
I dont remember much of the details, but I remember some American U swimmers back 10 years ago would talk about their 50 50's of fly...

5 sets of 10 or something like that... dont remember what the interval was; probably something like :60 cause they knew it was tough, but there were apparently trash cans at each end of the lanes...

There's this guy Chris on our master team who would love this set. He's training for the 200 fly right now and always looking for a way to swim more of it in practice. We may have to try and do it. And I'll be sure to include the buckets at the end of the pool - thanks for the warning on that!! :60 sounds plenty fast to me! And NO FINS!

born2fly
December 6th, 2006, 01:57 PM
Gotta love the trash cans at the end of the pool. You know its gonna be a good practice when the coach moves the trash bucket away from guard stand closer to edge of pool. That 100,200,300,400,500 is a very popular set which can be modified many ways. Last year I remember doing that as:

1x100 free @1:10
2x200 stroke @2:20
3x300 free @3:30
4x400 IM@5:00
5x500 free @5:50

There was no break in between, you just went one right into the other.

Luckily I am in taper mode right now and will be swimming my big mid season meet this fri/sat/sun. Swimming the 500 free on friday, 100 fly, 200 free, 50 free on Saturday and 200 fly, 200 im and 100 free on Sunday. If I qualify in the top 16 then I will swim at finals in evening. Need to enjoy this because next week training will be hell :-)

greg

CreamPuff
December 6th, 2006, 02:03 PM
Don't laugh Greg. I am printing that set out now. I'm really not sure I can EVER achieve it as it sounds INSANELY challenging. Perhaps I can start out by simply modifying the intervals OR I could try the whole thing free - and just see how far I get. Boy, I hope my coach does not read this forum! She'll get way to many ideas in her head.

:applaud:
I am amzaed you can do this!

CreamPuff
December 6th, 2006, 02:05 PM
Gotta love the trash cans at the end of the pool.
Luckily I am in taper mode right now and will be swimming my big mid season meet this fri/sat/sun. Swimming the 500 free on friday, 100 fly, 200 free, 50 free on Saturday and 200 fly, 200 im and 100 free on Sunday. If I qualify in the top 16 then I will swim at finals in evening. Need to enjoy this because next week training will be hell :-)

greg

Good Luck on your meet this weekend! If you have the time, I'd love to hear what your times are!

born2fly
December 6th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Well enjoy that set. It really was not that bad with the exception of the 400IM's. I hate breaststroke and would have much rathered inserted fly in the breaststroke part of it.

This is the link of the uss meet I will be at, psych sheet and results when available.

http://www.swim-makos.com/realtime/index.htm

greg

waves101
December 7th, 2006, 08:24 AM
Our master's team does a set of 100 x 50 @ :60 annually. This year it's scheduled for Saturday 12/16 @ 8am. Usually they'll mix in some stroke, IM, pull, etc. I've only participated 1 year (several years ago) but may consider it again this year. It's not hard to do, just a long time doing short distance.

Rob Copeland
December 7th, 2006, 09:05 AM
In the spirit of insane holiday sets, I like the 12 50s of Christmas.
1 50 easy

2 50s choice
1 50 easy

3 50s breath control 3-5-7 by 50
2 50s choice
1 50 easy

Up to

12 50s fast
11 50s stroke choice
10 50s moderate broken 500 pace
9 50s 3 fly 3 back 3 breast
8 50s breath control 3-5-7-9 by 50
7 50s pull
6 50s descend 1-3 and 4-6
5 50s drill
4 50s IM order
3 50s kick
2 50s choice
1 50 easy

Note: after about the third round someone usually catches on that the whole set is about 18K, so we jump right to the last set which is only 4K.

Sam Perry
December 7th, 2006, 10:23 AM
In the spirit of insane holiday sets, I like the 12 50s of Christmas.
1 50 easy

2 50s choice
1 50 easy

3 50s breath control 3-5-7 by 50
2 50s choice
1 50 easy

Up to

12 50s fast
11 50s stroke choice
10 50s moderate broken 500 pace
9 50s 3 fly 3 back 3 breast
8 50s breath control 3-5-7-9 by 50
7 50s pull
6 50s descend 1-3 and 4-6
5 50s drill
4 50s IM order
3 50s kick
2 50s choice
1 50 easy

Note: after about the third round someone usually catches on that the whole set is about 18K, so we jump right to the last set which is only 4K.
That is an awesome set! I might have to try that one, will have to do it on my own. If I suggested to our coach to do that, I would be banished from the group.

osterber
December 7th, 2006, 10:48 AM
We once did:

100 @ 2:00 (2:00 pace, 100 total)
200 @ 3:00 (1:30 pace, 300 total)
300 @ 4:00 (1:20 pace, 600 total)
400 @ 5:00 (1:15 pace, 1000 total)
500 @ 6:00 (1:12 pace, 1500 total)
600 @ 7:00 (1:10 pace, 2100 total)
700 @ 8:00 (1:08+ pace, 2800 total)
800 @ 9:00 (1:07+ pace, 3600 total)
900 @ 10:00 (1:06+ pace, 4500 total)
1000 @ 11:00 (1:06 pace, 5500 total)

The goal was to see how far you could get before missing the interval.

-Rick

CreamPuff
December 7th, 2006, 02:41 PM
Well enjoy that set. It really was not that bad with the exception of the 400IM's. I hate breaststroke and would have much rathered inserted fly in the breaststroke part of it.

This is the link of the uss meet I will be at, psych sheet and results when available.

http://www.swim-makos.com/realtime/index.htm

greg

Thanks again Greg for the link!! Best of luck!!
And like I said, I'll be lucky to make that set all FREESTYLE. Not ready for throwing in the IM. . . yet!

CreamPuff
December 7th, 2006, 02:42 PM
We once did:

100 @ 2:00 (2:00 pace, 100 total)
200 @ 3:00 (1:30 pace, 300 total)
300 @ 4:00 (1:20 pace, 600 total)
400 @ 5:00 (1:15 pace, 1000 total)
500 @ 6:00 (1:12 pace, 1500 total)
600 @ 7:00 (1:10 pace, 2100 total)
700 @ 8:00 (1:08+ pace, 2800 total)
800 @ 9:00 (1:07+ pace, 3600 total)
900 @ 10:00 (1:06+ pace, 4500 total)
1000 @ 11:00 (1:06 pace, 5500 total)

The goal was to see how far you could get before missing the interval.

-Rick

Rick,
At first glance, I was thinking, "That is so easy." Then, I read further. Ouch! I wonder how far I could get. Where did you make it to?!

Donna
December 7th, 2006, 04:48 PM
The day before New Years we do:

100x50meters @ :50 or 1:00 or 1:10 depending on your ability.

chaos
December 8th, 2006, 03:34 PM
I am planning a birthday (not a holiday unless your me) set that includes 4200 yds. fly

200 free warm up (i'll do this at 12spl)

200 fly on 4:00 (long and light about 2:45)
2x 100 fly on 1:50 (build... hold 1:20)
4x 50 fly on :50 (descend to :33)
4x 25 fly on :30 (alt. easy/sprint x25)

100 easy backstroke

Repeat six times.

2/13/07....mark your calenders.

amyro1234
June 20th, 2008, 11:32 AM
Well enjoy that set. It really was not that bad with the exception of the 400IM's. I hate breaststroke and would have much rathered inserted fly in the breaststroke part of it.

This is the link of the uss meet I will be at, psych sheet and results when available.

http://www.swim-makos.com/realtime/index.htm

greg

I was at that meet too:)

psal137
June 22nd, 2008, 02:22 AM
in college we used to do 100 x 100s on new years eve every year.. we would do the first 10 on 1:40 as a team, and then everyone would finish on thir fastest possible sendoff

i tried to do them on 1:10 my senior year, but only made to #50, so 40 on 1:10 .. did the last 50 on 1:15..

mentally one of the toughest things ive done, but for some reason looked forward to it every year

soph year i hit a wall on #98.. it was absolutely riduculous.. did them almost all on 1:15 and 1:20, and on the last 3 i literally died.. i think i was like 1:00 on my last 50 of the last one

pdjang
June 22nd, 2008, 10:48 AM
In El Paso, the loco swimmers get together for a cult swim called Los Rapidos around the holiday season. In 2000, it was 100 x 100 SCY on 1:45. Now it is 100 x 108. Takes a couple of hours. I hope we reset in 2010 to 100. There is enough time in between to tell jokes and gossip. The post event meal is a lot of fun!

Spock
June 22nd, 2008, 03:33 PM
New Year's Eve morning, high school:

100 x 100's on 1:30

More tough mentally than anything. People started dropping off around 6K. If you made it to 8.5K or so, a second win kicked in. Actually pushed a :52 on #100!

Would be tough to push a :52 for one now! ;)

mctrusty
June 22nd, 2008, 03:52 PM
We used to do the 100x100 on New Year's Eve. I made them on 1:15 my senior year. The worst part about it was that it was such a freakin' boring set.

Midas
June 23rd, 2008, 02:13 PM
I don't remember what the insane set was (and who really cares? we've obviously all done some insane sets over the years) but I remember the way we *protested* that set. It was a Sunday evening if I recall (my college men's team had practices at 5:00pm on Sundays--they always sucked) and it was a brutal and long workout. To protest, someone had the bright idea that we should all swim it in the buff. That way, our coach would get "mooned" by us all on every turn. Fortunately, the women's team was not around so modesty (and cold water) were not major hindrances. I remember it being quite "liberating" to swim in the buff. The novelty of it wore off pretty quickly in the face of the crushingly long set, but it did give us all some additional motivation.

lefty
June 23rd, 2008, 03:09 PM
sprinters "delight"

8 x 25's all out underwater dolphin kick on 2 minutes.
5 minute break
4 50's all out freestyle with fins 4 minutes.
5 minute break
2 100's all out freestyle no/fins on 8 minutes.

That Guy
June 26th, 2008, 12:47 AM
Most boring set in the universe:

100
200
300
400
500
600
700
800
900
1000

Doing this set on 1:10 base is better than doing it on 1:15 base because it ends sooner.

lefty
June 26th, 2008, 11:36 AM
Most boring set in the universe:

100
200
300
400
500
600
700
800
900
1000

Doing this set on 1:10 base is better than doing it on 1:15 base because it ends sooner.

Yeah and what would be the point of this set? How would it be any better than swimming a 5500 straight?

That Guy
June 26th, 2008, 05:10 PM
Yeah and what would be the point of this set? How would it be any better than swimming a 5500 straight?

The idea is to progressively descend - the first 100 of the 200 should be faster than the 100 just before it, and so on. I did this set at least 4 times in college and I can tell you that what actually happens is that is just becomes progressively more boring. It's not particularly hard so we'd swim through it and think about other things.

amyro1234
June 26th, 2008, 05:37 PM
We did a 2000 fly set once in practice.:toohurt: I was so glad we got to use fins:applaud: