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The Fortress
December 15th, 2006, 11:11 AM
Who do you want to race? In what event? The race is on.

I'm challenging Richjb to a 50 breast. :rofl: I'll even challenge Terry to a 50 butterfrog.

islandsox
December 15th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Well, I am still pretty new to this forum so I am not sure who swims what. So, I'd have to go for an open water swim, preferably saltwater, at least 5K (farther would be better, though), so maybe Lindsay NB and Terry Laughlin? Who else swims OW?

But if not, anyone who swims backstroke, but let's keep it a really short distance, say 25 yard, so when I lose I won't be a BIG LOSER, I'll be a LITTLE LOSER:rofl:.

Donna

poolraat
December 15th, 2006, 02:59 PM
I'm probably a lot slower than most on this forum so I'm not going to challenge anyone. Besides Fortress and I already have a 50 fly race to do.
If I wear fins maybe I'll be able to keep up with her.

I wouldn't want to race Donna in open water but I would love to go there and do a long swim and then :drink: with her and her friends.

SwimStud
December 15th, 2006, 02:59 PM
Who do you want to race? In what event? The race is on.

I'm challenging Richjb to a 50 breast. :rofl: I'll even challenge Terry to a 50 butterfrog.

Well you might get your wish at the Colonies...but it may not be a sanctioned race...

I am actually bummed out. My groin pull forced me out of the water today after 20 minutes. I am going to totally rest unitl Wednesday and not swim. I hope that let's it heal...I've been wearing my underarmour all day today which has helped. Good news is I was swimming 25 sec lengths at 8SPL. So now I can work on speed, I seem to have the technique right. I was OK until I tried to swim freestyle, then I felt it really pull. No freestyle for me for a while.

LindsayNB
December 15th, 2006, 02:59 PM
Well, I am still pretty new to this forum so I am not sure who swims what. So, I'd have to go for an open water swim, preferably saltwater, at least 5K (farther would be better, though), so maybe Lindsay NB and Terry Laughlin? Who else swims OW?


I am a reformed OW swimmer, last season I didn't race anything over 200m, this season I haven't raced anything over 100m... Right now I am experimenting with the "to swim fast in a race you have to swim fast in practice" theory, it seems to be working for me, I recently took 2.5s of my 100fr. It's still very pokey by absolute standards though.

And I have to say that my "effortless" OW distance stroke is also "speedless". ;)

I think Rob Copeland and Leonard would be more worthy OW challengers (and maybe "some caped crusader guy"), I'm just a theory geek! As I told a friend recently, I am discovering that, unfortunately, just because I have no talent for distance doesn't mean I have any talent for sprinting. On the plus side I don't get lapped! :o

Muppet
December 15th, 2006, 03:41 PM
swimmie avs fan, 200 Back LCM
:dedhorse:

scyfreestyler
December 15th, 2006, 03:41 PM
I am a reformed OW swimmer, last season I didn't race anything over 200m, this season I haven't raced anything over 100m... Right now I am experimenting with the "to swim fast in a race you have to swim fast in practice" theory, it seems to be working for me, I recently took 2.5s of my 100fr. It's still very pokey by absolute standards though.

And I have to say that my "effortless" OW distance stroke is also "speedless". ;)

I think Rob Copeland and Leonard would be more worthy OW challengers (and maybe "some caped crusader guy"), I'm just a theory geek! As I told a friend recently, I am discovering that, unfortunately, just because I have no talent for distance doesn't mean I have any talent for sprinting. On the plus side I don't get lapped! :o


That's great news! Congrats on the achievment!

islandsox
December 15th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Poolrat, maybe you could come down and "officiate" if anyone ever wanted to come down here and race. You'd be just the person to have refreshments ready at the end.

LindsayNB: Wow, 2.5 seconds is nothing to sneeze about; that 's a lot of time shaved off. I didn't know you used do OW, but since you are in Canada, I'm sure it must also present some problems (cold water?). And, my effortless stroke is also speedless :rofl:.

Rich, OUCH is my sentiment; don't ice it!! Look at it as a little mini-taper for the time being.

Cheers everyone,
Donna

Paul Smith
December 15th, 2006, 04:29 PM
John & I are going to track Geek down next year and take him on in the 500!

poolraat
December 15th, 2006, 04:30 PM
Poolrat, maybe you could come down and "officiate" if anyone ever wanted to come down here and race. You'd be just the person to have refreshments ready at the end.

I'd be happy to. But if the race is is too long you might come back to a pile of empty bottles:D .

nkfrench
December 15th, 2006, 04:31 PM
You guys are all fascinating but too fast. I'll wait until I'm in the 100+ age group and find somebody else left in it. I think that's the best strategy I have. Maybe by then I will have figured out how to swim, get in shape, etc. I am hoping that when I retire (15 years ?) I will have good health and free time to swim more without the encumbrance of full-time employment.

Check back in about 50 years ?

If there is going to be a individual medley of (procrastination, beer swilling, webmastering, and marathon 24-episode watching) I'll challenge somebody now. Well, I wouldn't actually start right away due to the rules for the first part.

The Fortress
December 15th, 2006, 08:04 PM
swimmie avs fan, 200 Back LCM
:dedhorse:


Man, can't you pick someone else to race?! I'm rooting for swimmieavsfan on that one. :thhbbb: But you do have a nice start.:D

I will only race swimmieavsfan in the 50 back. Not one yard more.

Caped Crusader
December 15th, 2006, 08:25 PM
And I have to say that my "effortless" OW distance stroke is also "speedless". ;) I think Rob Copeland and Leonard would be more worthy OW challengers (and maybe "some caped crusader guy")

Lindsay, I would be delighted to race you in the OW, especially after you've admitted that your "effortless" stroke is not speedy. Maybe I have a chance.

Caped Crusader
December 15th, 2006, 08:30 PM
Fortress, Ex-runner:

I will challenge you to a 5K or whatever distance exceeding that you choose. I do not sprint. I will run on dirt or at that Difficult Run place you've apparently relocated to.

The Fortress
December 15th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Fortress, Ex-runner:

I will challenge you to a 5K or whatever distance exceeding that you choose. I do not sprint. I will run on dirt or at that Difficult Run place you've apparently relocated to.


I accept this challenge now that you're so mild-mannered. I would prefer a 10K, my usual running distance nowadays though. I no longer marathon because my ankles are just too loose, just like my shoulders, and I'm busy trying to hit the pool. Dirt is good. Difficult run is not fictional. It's right next door.

Then, when we are done and I win, I challenge you to a :drink: race. :thhbbb:

Caped Crusader
December 15th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Then, when we are done and I win, I challenge you to a :drink: race. :thhbbb:

To quote someone else, I will crush you like a "tin drum." :thhbbb:

Now, I guess your fly technique must be OK. I'll confess. I can't do fly. Only butterstruggle.

Muppet
December 16th, 2006, 12:43 AM
Man, can't you pick someone else to race?!

Ok, I think I might like to get in on the Caped one's OW challenges to defend my far side cow :wave: . Something scenic, perhaps across the Chesapeake Bay @ the Bay Bridge. I was going to put Bonaire or St. Croix swims, but I know I would get distracted by the wildlife.

The Fortress
December 16th, 2006, 01:21 AM
Ok, I think I might like to get in on the Caped one's OW challenges to defend my far side cow :wave: . Something scenic, perhaps across the Chesapeake Bay @ the Bay Bridge. I was going to put Bonaire or St. Croix swims, but I know I would get distracted by the wildlife.

I actually like your far side cow. You're not bowing to peer pressure to change your avatar? I hope you crush Clark Kent like a "tin drum." I think I read about your exploits in that Bay Bridge race...

Meanwhile, I think Beth and I are still holding hands on the 50 fly.

What's with the :wave: ? I thought you were all about :dedhorse: and :banana:. Have you decided to use new emoticons?

The Fortress
December 16th, 2006, 01:28 AM
But if not, anyone who swims backstroke, but let's keep it a really short distance, say 25 yard, so when I lose I won't be a BIG LOSER, I'll be a LITTLE LOSER:rofl:.Donna

You know I love you, but I will definitely race you in a backstroke event. But is the 25 back much of an "accomplishment?" :rofl: I don't think so. :D C'mon on, I'll even race you in the 200 back as long as it's not in the OW. I don't like sea lice. Blech. Do they ever not have sea lice in the Honduras?

islandsox
December 16th, 2006, 08:03 AM
Fortress,

Smarty Pants!!! A 25 yd back would be an accomplishment for Me, I wouldn't get slaughtered so badly. :joker:But now that I think of it, it would have to be in a 33-1/3 yard pool with stairs at the end, so let's make it a 66 yd back and see how well YOU fare with turning on stairs. After all, I have practice with them. Maybe your stairstruggle would keep us more even.

But if this doesn't float your boat, then the remaining back race would have to be a 325 yd race from beach to channel marker.:thhbbb:

Ball's back in your court:thhbbb:

Donna

FindingMyInnerFish
December 16th, 2006, 03:16 PM
You guys are all fascinating but too fast. I'll wait until I'm in the 100+ age group and find somebody else left in it. I think that's the best strategy I have. Maybe by then I will have figured out how to swim, get in shape, etc. I am hoping that when I retire (15 years ?) I will have good health and free time to swim more without the encumbrance of full-time employment.

Check back in about 50 years ?

If there is going to be a individual medley of (procrastination, beer swilling, webmastering, and marathon 24-episode watching) I'll challenge somebody now. Well, I wouldn't actually start right away due to the rules for the first part.

You are a swimmer after my own heart! My only awards in swims so far have come when there is no one else in my age group. (First in a tough field of me, myself, and I....). ;) So I'm thinking the 100+ age group holds much promise. As for the other "IM" events, maybe we could do a relay, since the webmastering and 24 episodes aren't really my specialty. But hey beer swilling and procrastination... I'm SOOO there!

The Fortress
December 18th, 2006, 04:35 PM
You are a swimmer after my own heart! My only awards in swims so far have come when there is no one else in my age group. (First in a tough field of me, myself, and I....). ;) So I'm thinking the 100+ age group holds much promise. As for the other "IM" events, maybe we could do a relay, since the webmastering and 24 episodes aren't really my specialty. But hey beer swilling and procrastination... I'm SOOO there!

Fish:

Lots of people are the only one in their age group and therefore collecting awards. Just keep collecting! :) I think there are likewise lots of people attempting to outlast the competition through attrition! Nothing wrong with that either. I agree, NK French is a hoot. I don't know what strokes she swims, but I will fin race her. But not in that 1000 fly event she does!:p

FlyQueen
December 18th, 2006, 04:53 PM
Fish:

Lots of people are the only one in their age group and therefore collecting awards. Just keep collecting! :) I think there are likewise lots of people attempting to outlast the competition through attrition! Nothing wrong with that either. I agree, NK French is a hoot. I don't know what strokes she swims, but I will fin race her. But not in that 1000 fly event she does!:p

I'd like to add that the 50 free record in the 100-104 age group is around 5 minutes ... that's my goal ... I'm only 26 so it'll take awhile ...

The Fortress
December 18th, 2006, 05:54 PM
I'd like to add that the 50 free record in the 100-104 age group is around 5 minutes ... that's my goal ... I'm only 26 so it'll take awhile ...

Heather:

You better get a new goal then. Because I suspect that record will be down to around 2:00 or 3:00 minutes by the time I get there ... way ahead of you. :joker:

FlyQueen
December 19th, 2006, 08:41 AM
Heather:

You better get a new goal then. Because I suspect that record will be down to around 2:00 or 3:00 minutes by the time I get there ... way ahead of you. :joker:


Okay, just try not to take it under 2:00 ... a minute/25 seems reasonable ... though just doing a 50 at 100 might be difficult ... maybe I'll go for the butterfrog record :joker:

gull
December 19th, 2006, 09:53 AM
My only awards in swims so far have come when there is no one else in my age group.

I believe that the other swimmers in your age group had the opportunity to enter those meets/events. A win is a win. A case in point--our little team here in New Bern competed in the 3000 yd National Postal Championships and placed 1st in the 45-49 Mens relay. Yes, we were the only relay team entered in that age group, but as far as I'm concerned it's a legitimate win. Besides, one of our swimmers on the relay was 60 (Bob Husson).

FlyQueen
December 19th, 2006, 10:06 AM
I believe that the other swimmers in your age group had the opportunity to enter those meets/events. A win is a win. A case in point--our little team here in New Bern competed in the 3000 yd National Postal Championships and placed 1st in the 45-49 Mens relay. Yes, we were the only relay team entered in that age group, but as far as I'm concerned it's a legitimate win. Besides, one of our swimmers on the relay was 60 (Bob Husson).

Absolutely ... in 2005 I was very new to masters and swam in the Illinois state meet. I finished second in my age group in the 400IM and the 1650 (I tried all events before convincing my coach and self that I was a sprinter). Only one other person swam those two events, I earned those silver medals because I had the guts to do those events even if my times were pathetic ... entering the arena is half the battle, and much more than most other people do ...

FindingMyInnerFish
December 19th, 2006, 10:29 AM
You guys are awesome! Thanks for the encouragement! I have to admit I enjoy and save my swimming awards... and especially two I got that were quite practical: a coffee mug (in the Rainbow Channel Challenge mile) and a beer glass (this was actually for a swim/run combo and my run kept the time down to reasonable levels... no competitors in 50-54, so the beer glass was mine to fill, and I filled it as promptly as I could!) :drink:

If any of you live in the Philly area, I'll be glad to meet you! Maybe even hoist a beer glass w/ you.... or (if you aren't light years ahead in your speed, ha ha) do a swim workout.... or an aquathlon....

swimr4life
December 19th, 2006, 10:36 AM
Meanwhile, I think Beth and I are still holding hands on the 50 fly.

Fortress, that sounds like a great idea. Now which of your shoulders is hurt? Mine is the right so if yours is the lefts side......it might work!

poolraat
December 19th, 2006, 10:51 AM
I believe that the other swimmers in your age group had the opportunity to enter those meets/events. A win is a win. A case in point--our little team here in New Bern competed in the 3000 yd National Postal Championships and placed 1st in the 45-49 Mens relay. Yes, we were the only relay team entered in that age group, but as far as I'm concerned it's a legitimate win. Besides, one of our swimmers on the relay was 60 (Bob Husson).

Regarding the 3000 postal. I just found out that I made the top 10 in my age group (50-54) again. Even though there are only 20-30 in that group it's still an accomplishment.

The Fortress
December 19th, 2006, 11:17 AM
Fortress, that sounds like a great idea. Now which of your shoulders is hurt? Mine is the right so if yours is the lefts side......it might work!

Mine is the left, so we're good to go!!! Now, does anyone want to race our two good shoulders? :lolup:

(Beth: This was really a reference to a previous message I left you on the "Which poster do you want to meet thread." You'll have to check that too.)

SwimStud
December 19th, 2006, 08:52 PM
Who do you want to race? In what event? The race is on.

I'm challenging Richjb to a 50 breast. :rofl: I'll even challenge Terry to a 50 butterfrog.

I challenge you to a 50 butterfly...:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :joker:

okoban
December 22nd, 2006, 03:09 PM
I challenge Ande for a 100 meters free!!! (he will swim and I will run along the poolside)
:groovy:

SwimStud
December 22nd, 2006, 03:11 PM
I challenge Ande for a 100 meters free!!! (he will swim and I will run along the poolside)
:groovy:

HAHAHA I got $10 on Ande...no offence Oko ;)

Caped Crusader
December 22nd, 2006, 03:13 PM
I want to race the guy in Fortress' avatar. Excuse my ignorance, but who is it?

Fortress and I already have a 10k run on.

I guess I could take Allen Stark on in a bike race. At least I wouldn't need a prom dress.

thewookiee
December 22nd, 2006, 03:50 PM
I want to race the guy in Fortress' avatar. Excuse my ignorance, but who is it?

Fortress and I already have a 10k run on.

I guess I could take Allen Stark on in a bike race. At least I wouldn't need a prom dress.


Kinda looks like Don Scholander(sp?) Don't know if it is though.

islandsox
December 22nd, 2006, 04:19 PM
Wookie,

It's Don Schollander (spelling that is) and I should know.:D

islandsox

thewookiee
December 22nd, 2006, 04:47 PM
Donna,

Thanks for the correction! I wsan't eevr vrey good at sepllnig in socohl.


Wieooke

islandsox
December 22nd, 2006, 04:52 PM
Wieookie,

Just joshing you about Don. He is a old friend of mine and I will admit, that avatar does resemble him; blonde, smooth chest, oops, can't say anymore.

Donna

KaizenSwimmer
December 22nd, 2006, 05:11 PM
I'll even challenge Terry to a 50 butterfrog.

Not enuf water time for the entry fee. I'd prefer 200; you like 50. How about a 100 then?
I wouldn't enter this at the Zones since I'd want to focus on my better events. Maybe it can be a postal or virtual race.

KaizenSwimmer
December 22nd, 2006, 05:20 PM
So, I'd have to go for an open water swim, preferably saltwater, at least 5K (farther would be better, though), so maybe Lindsay NB and Terry Laughlin?

I'd be happy to swim 5K or farther in OW, even more in salt water. Happy to compete with you - the Latin roots com petere meaning "strive together."

Spent last week at the Island School (www.islandschool.org (http://www.islandschool.org)) at Cape Eleuthera, the Bahamas, leading an OW swim camp. We did all our swimming in salt water. We had 19 adults in the camp. About 1/3 had swum one or more OW races, most of them triathletes. About 1/3 had OW experience, but no races. About 1/3 had no OW swimming experience, including a 60 y.o. woman who'd never swum farther than 100 yds in a pool.

Last Friday afternoon, we ferried everyone to a sandbar over two miles offshore for a group swim back to the Island School. We had five coaches, four kayakers and an escort boat. I expected that a fair number would swim a bit then hop on the boat and ride the rest of the way. Instead every person completed a 2.5-mile, open-ocean, cross-current swim, with the final pair finishing in over two hours. Dave Barra swam with them the whole time. As you can imagine the group was feeling giddy at its team achievement at dinner that night.

Eleuthera is the finest OW swimming locale I've ever seen.

The Fortress
December 22nd, 2006, 05:23 PM
Not enuf water time for the entry fee. I'd prefer 200; you like 50. How about a 100 then?
I wouldn't enter this at the Zones since I'd want to focus on my better events. Maybe it can be a postal or virtual race.

LOL. Ok, I'll do a virtual race. I'll have to practice that butterfrog a bit more so it'll be competitive. Everyone at my practice will laugh when I ask to be timed in it. No one on our team does butterfrog... and we actually have quite a few 50s and 60s.

And it appears that I have not responded to Donna's challenge. I'll race ya in that stair pool. It'll be quite an "accomplishment" for us. I hope there's no sea lice in there. Only tree branches from tropical storms and whatnot. Winner makes MonkeyLaLas. Wait, I believe you are supposed to stop drinking so you can write your story for USMS about Utila. Better get on the wagon soon! I might knock off wine consumption the day before my virutal race with Terry.

While I'm doing back, I might also like in on some action with the Wookie in the 100. Especially since he'll be sitting at my table when we meet.

islandsox
December 22nd, 2006, 05:46 PM
Terry, Eleuthera sounds just heavenly. What a marvelous experience for all who participated. It is things like this that make so many memories for you and your people, as well as island folks.

Roatan has something similar but more marine oriented. Anthony's Key Resort in Sandy Bay has the Institute of Marine Sciences located there, and they also provide camps for children and adults from scuba/snorkeling, to swimming with dolphins, marine life classes, horseback riding, and the list goes on. Conservation of reef life is first and foremost because the Hondurans are not privy to the importance of reef life. Typical over-fishing and trash throwing. The Marine Park is one of my charities for my Roatan to Utila swim.

It is thrilling to watch people, with the guidance of people like yourself, engage them to try new things.

Not to hijack this thread, your story just touched my heart. I would love for you to come to Roatan and enjoy our waters here. The closest island is Utila (18.6 miles), that is why I chose it. The others, Cayos Cachinos is 27, Guanaja is 12 but always has high seas and I do get seasick sometimes when swimming. So the distance has to be far unless we swim from maybe Half Moon Bay to West Bay which is only about 3 miles.

Thank you for accepting the challenge, I am honored. Let's see if in the next year the logistics can be worked out. I don't come to the States very much.

Donna

Caped Crusader
December 22nd, 2006, 06:25 PM
It is thrilling to watch people, with the guidance of people like yourself, try new things.

Not to sound too Geek-like, but anything (clinics, this unique forum, friendly persuasion, good role modeling) that gets people off their butts, out exercising, and setting some goals (no matter how minor) is a good thing. The OW is even better. Then not as many little kids will drown. I'm tired of hearing about drowings off the Outer Banks every summer.

Allen Stark
December 22nd, 2006, 09:24 PM
Caped One,I'd love to do a bike race,but I'm more of a sprint type,is that all right. Prom Dress is optional.:woot:

Caped Crusader
December 22nd, 2006, 09:33 PM
Caped One,I'd love to do a bike race,but I'm more of a sprint type,is that all right. Prom Dress is optional.:woot:

I'm a distance junkie, but I'll do a sprint too I guess. No prom dress. No man-kini. I will be wearing my discovery team bike shorts.

chaos
December 22nd, 2006, 09:42 PM
does arm-wrestling count? i'd like to have a go with (s)he-man.

Warren
December 22nd, 2006, 11:43 PM
I would like to race Wayne McCulley in a 25 breaststroke with each of us wearing a kilt.

Allen Stark
December 23rd, 2006, 02:04 AM
Why not a prom dress.(Semi)seriously Wayne is amazing at streamlining,even in a kilt he can probably go 40 ft. on the pull-out. Wayne what do you do now on the pull-out,50 ft? I always loved to race Wayne,but in SCY I was always playing catch up.

KaizenSwimmer
December 23rd, 2006, 05:09 AM
[quote=The Fortress;71700]LOL. Ok, I'll do a virtual race. I'll have to practice that butterfrog a bit more so it'll be competitive. Everyone at my practice will laugh when I ask to be timed in it. quote]

I did my fastest-to-date 100 Butterfrog last night, while swimming a 3600-yard IM set with Dave Barra.

Swimming from a pushoff, on the way to a 400 IM, the digital clock said 1:23 when I looked at it as I turned to begin Backstroke.

Maybe we can do this as a back-and-forth series of swims pushing each other to go faster. You might not have too much difficulty knocking that one off, motivating me to go faster.

KaizenSwimmer
December 23rd, 2006, 05:21 AM
I would love for you to come to Roatan and enjoy our waters here. Donna

At least for the moment, it may have to be a virtual race, like the 100 Butterfrog with Leslie. My travel schedule is pretty full in 2007. I'd love to go back to Eleuthera soon, but may have to wait til November as that looks like the first window.

By the way if there are any Florida, Australian, Japanese or Irish/UK posters who'd like to "com petere" with me, I'll be racing an ocean mile in Delray Beach Jan 7, an 11K in Sydney Harbor March 11, an unusual 3000 LCM event in Tokyo March 25 (as well as 400M IM or FR), and 800scm (and a few sprint events - including a 100scm ButterFrog) in the Irish Open Masters May 5-6 in Cork.

okoban
December 23rd, 2006, 11:19 AM
HAHAHA I got $10 on Ande...no offence Oko ;)
Speedo Santa, if he starts from the water, I think I can win by a photo-finish, if he starts from the blocks, no way!!!
:lolup:

islandsox
December 23rd, 2006, 12:52 PM
Then you are on, Terry, for a virtual race and we may as well swim all the way from Dixon Cove to the mainland of Honduras. It is only 43 miles, but remember it is virtual. And because it is virtual, the tiger sharks on that side won't eat us, so swimming all through the night won't be a problem for either of us.

I swam in Cork once. My husband is Irish and we went over so he could meet family members and I swam. Wonderful.

islandsox

The Fortress
December 23rd, 2006, 12:55 PM
[quote=The Fortress;71700]LOL. Ok, I'll do a virtual race. I'll have to practice that butterfrog a bit more so it'll be competitive. Everyone at my practice will laugh when I ask to be timed in it. quote]

I did my fastest-to-date 100 Butterfrog last night, while swimming a 3600-yard IM set with Dave Barra.

Swimming from a pushoff, on the way to a 400 IM, the digital clock said 1:23 when I looked at it as I turned to begin Backstroke.

Maybe we can do this as a back-and-forth series of swims pushing each other to go faster. You might not have too much difficulty knocking that one off, motivating me to go faster.

Geez, I think a 1:23 might be too fast for me in butterfrog. That stroke makes me sink. I'd be better off swimming it all breaststroke, especially if Allen can fix my strokes in a few minutes. I tell you what, Kaizen, when I'm over my sinus infection and get back in the pool after the holidays, I will time myself from a push off in 4 100s: 100 fly with fins (gotta keep 'em on right now), 100 butterfrog, 100 breast, and 100 breast with a dolphin kick. Then I will report back.

Chaos: I'll arm wrestle you, you feisty left wing Italian flyer.

CreamPuff
December 23rd, 2006, 01:12 PM
does arm-wrestling count? i'd like to have a go with (s)he-man.

Looks like we'd be pretty closely matched - in the pool that is!

I'm weak on land though. It's all just for show. :joker:

Last time I arm wrestled was in elementary school against the boys. The girls wouldn't arm wrestle.

:wiggle: :wiggle:

chaos
December 23rd, 2006, 01:23 PM
Looks like we'd be pretty closely matched - in the pool that is!

I'm weak on land though. It's all just for show. :joker:

Last time I arm wrestled was in elementary school against the boys. The girls wouldn't arm wrestle.

:wiggle: :wiggle:
i think the furthest south i will be traveling this coming year (2007) will be for colonies zones (dixies welcome too)

The Fortress
December 23rd, 2006, 01:45 PM
i think the furthest south i will be traveling this coming year (2007) will be for colonies zones (dixies welcome too)

Man, you're coming to our meet too?! Do you and Terry travel as a pack? Are you going to all those places around the world or staying in NY to do 3600 IMs? Was that IM continuous? How old are you? Do I recall 38? You may have to race Jeff Roddin in fly if you come down here. He's real fast. I also got a friend in NC who'll give you a good race in those distance frees at the Dixie Zones. (I was not speaking of Geek or Gull, since I haven't met them yet.) Or were you inviting the Dixies to come to Colonies? No fair! Last year, Karlyn Pipes-Nielsen crashed our meet and stole all the gold medals. I had to settle for a distant second in the 100 IM because of her ... Although we did chat in the hot tub and she showed me these new lightweight fins she'd designed.

chaos
December 23rd, 2006, 03:39 PM
Man, you're coming to our meet too?! Do you and Terry travel as a pack? Are you going to all those places around the world or staying in NY to do 3600 IMs? Was that IM continuous? How old are you? Do I recall 38? You may have to race Jeff Roddin in fly if you come down here. He's real fast. I also got a friend in NC who'll give you a good race in those distance frees at the Dixie Zones. (I was not speaking of Geek or Gull, since I haven't met them yet.) Or were you inviting the Dixies to come to Colonies? No fair! Last year, Karlyn Pipes-Nielsen crashed our meet and stole all the gold medals. I had to settle for a distant second in the 100 IM because of her ... Although we did chat in the hot tub and she showed me these new lightweight fins she'd designed.
unfortunately, i will be staying in ny. last year adms had 12 or 13 members at zones. i will be 42 in feb.

3600 yd im set:
4x 50 fly on 1:00
4x 50 bk 0n 1:00
4x 50 br on 1:00
4x 50 fr on 1:00
establish pace and spl
400 im

3x 50 fly on 1:00
3x 50 bk on 1:00
3x 50 br on 1:00
3x 50 fr on 1:00
faster than the 4x 50's round
2x 200 im (cumulative time faster than 400 im)

2x 50 fly on 1:00
2x 50 bk on 1:00
2x 50 br on 1:00
2x 50 fr on 1:00
faster than the 3x 50's round
4x 100 im (cumulative time faster than the 200's)

50 fly on 1:00
50 bk on 1:00
50 br on 1:00
50 fr on 1:00
faster than the 2x 50's round
400 im (faster than the first 400)

my first 400 was 5:19 with a 1:10 fly. my second was 5:25 with a more relaxed 1:18 fly (trying to work on the bk and br stuff)

KaizenSwimmer
December 23rd, 2006, 06:01 PM
4x 50 fly on 1:00


Naturally I did BFrog on all those 50s Fly, and at the beginning of the IMs.

The Fortress
January 17th, 2007, 02:15 PM
I did my fastest-to-date 100 Butterfrog last night, while swimming a 3600-yard IM set with Dave Barra.

Swimming from a pushoff, on the way to a 400 IM, the digital clock said 1:23 when I looked at it as I turned to begin Backstroke.

Maybe we can do this as a back-and-forth series of swims pushing each other to go faster. You might not have too much difficulty knocking that one off, motivating me to go faster.

Well, I'm on the comeback trail, but I finally felt decent enough to do some swims for "time" at the end of practice. I started off with the 100 butterfrog, or I intended too. I must concede defeat. How embarassing. I went about 40 yards and was about to drown, so I threw in the towel.

Instead, I did the 100 "breastdolphin." Did a 1:21 push off, maybe 80%. It was astonishing to actually have some forward momentum/propulsion in "breast." So, we're probably at a draw with our preferred kicks. I also did a pair of push-off 50 flys (26s) and a pair of push-off 50 backs (27s) in a descending set of 5 x 50 back (with fins--shoulder rehab). My only object was to stay under water SDK-ing as long as I could (couldn't quite do it the allowed maximum on the second length). This exercise makes me think that I should just be happy with my dolphin kick and that my current obsession with SDKs/monofining is worthwhile. If I can't do fly 10 years from now, maybe I'll try butterfrog again. But until then, you'll have to race someone else in that event. :rofl:

newmastersswimmer
January 17th, 2007, 03:20 PM
After reading how fast the fortress swam her 50 flies and 50 backs in her last post, I now want to race her in both events.....I'm not a sprinter so she has the advantage.....we're both around the same age (I think?)....and she never mentioned me at all in her post about which posters she wanted to meet in real life.....so now I'm out for vengence!! Its time to take the fortress down in the pool....(only in the friendliest manner of course...lol!)

Newmastersswimmer

The Fortress
January 17th, 2007, 03:27 PM
After reading how fast the fortress swam her 50 flies and 50 backs in her last post, I now want to race her in both events.....I'm not a sprinter so she has the advantage.....we're both around the same age (I think?)....and she never mentioned me at all in her post about which posters she wanted to meet in real life.....so now I'm out for vengence!! Its time to take the fortress down in the pool....(only in the friendliest manner of course...lol!)

Newmastersswimmer

Jim:

I never knew you were such a poet and admirer of poets at the time!! I'd be delighted to meet an academic J/K-er! I enjoy reading all your posts -- you should post more often.

You did notice that I was swimming those 50s with fins, right? But, ok, you're on!:lolup: I'm 45. I may have the fast twitch advantage (although you will see I am currently just "hoping" to be a sprinter at the moment), but you probably have the shoulder advantage and height advantage. My next meet is in MD in late March with Muppet and SwimmieAvsFan and SwimShark. You're welcome to come. SwimmieAvsFan is looking for revenge in the 50 back, so I might as well be prepared to take it on the chin in the 50 fly too. There will be some fast 200 flyers there as well, as I guess that's your bragging event. Maybe Muppet will take you on. I doubt there will be any butterfrogging ... At least I don't recall any from last year.

poolraat
January 17th, 2007, 04:04 PM
You did notice that I was swimming those 50s with fins, right? But, ok, you're on!:lolup:


They are still pretty fast times, even with fins. Maybe I'll let my son race you in my place. He has really gotten fast in the past year. His 100 free and 100 fly last weekend were great.
And I just keep getting slower.

newmastersswimmer
January 17th, 2007, 04:53 PM
I never knew you were such a poet and admirer of poets at the time!! I'd be delighted to meet an academic J/K-er! I enjoy reading all your posts -- you should post more often. posted by the fortress

Your words are too kind fortress.....I now officially forgive you for not mentioning me on that thread.


but you probably have the shoulder advantage and height advantage.
posted by the fortress

I'm not sure about shoulders and height, but I am sure about one thing....I definitely have the weight advantage (as in I'm definitely much heavier than you...LOL!!)


There will be some fast 200 flyers there as well, as I guess that's your bragging event. Maybe Muppet will take you on.
posted by the fortress


I'm a little out of shape for a 200 fly right now (A 25 yard fly is probably as far as I can go at the moment).....as far as racing Myuppet goes...well I just looked up his times and found out that his 100 fly time from 2006 SCY Nationals is a little faster than my best time since joining masters a couple of years ago....so maybe it would be a close race between us? His 100 IM time is also just a little faster than mine as well. I didn't see a lot of 200 fly times for him ...and I guess he didn't swim that one at SCY Nats in 2006....so I can't really say what would happen there....I went 2:06 something a couple of years back...probably couldn't break 3:00 minutes if I swam it today....or finish it legally.

I'm still up for racing you in the 50 fly and 50 back....although I can't quite make it to Maryland to swim in that meet....maybe in Austin for the SCY Natinals in 2008? (or is it 2007?). I agree with poolrat that even though you were wearing fins when you swam those times the other day, they still are pretty fast times IMO! You might thrash me in those races.

Newmastersswimmer

The Fortress
January 17th, 2007, 05:12 PM
I'm a little out of shape for a 200 fly right now (A 25 yard fly is probably as far as I can go at the moment).....as far as racing Myuppet goes...well I just looked up his times and found out that his 100 fly time from 2006 SCY Nationals is a little faster than my best time since joining masters a couple of years ago....so maybe it would be a close race between us? His 100 IM time is also just a little faster than mine as well. I didn't see a lot of 200 fly times for him ...and I guess he didn't swim that one at SCY Nats in 2006....so I can't really say what would happen there....I went 2:06 something a couple of years back...probably couldn't break 3:00 minutes if I swam it today....or finish it legally.

I'm still up for racing you in the 50 fly and 50 back....although I can't quite make it to Maryland to swim in that meet....maybe in Austin for the SCY Natinals in 2008? (or is it 2007?). I agree with poolrat that even though you were wearing fins when you swam those times the other day, they still are pretty fast times IMO! You might thrash me in those races.

Newmastersswimmer

Jim:

2:06?!?! I shudder to even think about it. I once swam a 100 long course (I shuddered and stunk up the pool. I'm not sure if Muppet was in my heat. He might have been. I'm sure he crushed me.), but I have yet to attempt it in short course yards or meters. I'm working on it. I might get there one day. Or not. I think it's Federal Way in 2007 and Austin in 2008 for SCY Nats. Not sure if I can go this year. I might try to ditch the family and go... I'm mulling it over and waiting to see if my gimpy shoulder holds out and improves. If not, we can have a cyber-race. I'd be happy to do the 25 fly if you prefer. ;) I swam that once this year, but that was before I became obsessed with SDK-ing.

It sound like you need to do some ENGINE-BUILDING! Me too. This was my first decent workout in 2 months.

Poolraat:

I don't race 14 year olds or other youngsters or even participate in USS meets. (I know you don't have much choice.) I think I've also told you that my 12 year old can beat me in every known event except the 50 fly/back/free -- and she's closing in fast. Because I have no engine and am reduced to being a drop dead sprinter, she beats me in everything else and any other distance. (Well, maybe not the 100 back -- she is a breaststroker after all. They all hate backstroke.) She recently eclipsed my 100 IM in December and reminds me about it every other day. (She went a 1:05.)

How'd your son do? Sounds like PBs.

You'll get faster!! You just had a really rough month like me -- sinuses and pool closures. Give yourself a chance to bounce back. You got a lot of time until Federal Way. You'll do great. And may I recommend a monofin to help out with those 50s?

poolraat
January 17th, 2007, 05:40 PM
How'd your son do? Sounds like PBs.

Thanks for asking. Our State meet was last weekend. He swam 7 events and had PB's in all of them. The thing that really made us happy was that he made the B final in 5 of his 7 races. 50 & 100 free, 100 fly, 200 & 400 IM.
I can no longer say that I am faster than him (in any event/distance).

Peter Cruise
January 17th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Les- do not challenge Jim. Years ago I ripped the cover away from his identity...'Jim Borkowski' is just a veiled reference to his real name/title. His real name is 'The Bork' and he is a mostly-android machine intelligence sent to the earth's past to tip the scales against the future's Federation and the Starfleet. He is still recovering from his last battles with Captain Jean-Luc Picard and the crew of the Starship Enterprise, but when he finally mends he will set out on his ultimate mission: to subvert Earth's evolution into a starfaring civilization (thus weakening the Federation at a critical juncture) by promoting butterfly as a stroke that a rational human being would do (and as the future Federation would ban as a 'Tasteless remnant of barbarism') which would lead to a galactic boycott of Earth.

The Fortress
January 17th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Les- do not challenge Jim. Years ago I ripped the cover away from his identity...'Jim Borkowski' is just a veiled reference to his real name/title. His real name is 'The Bork' and he is a mostly-android machine intelligence sent to the earth's past to tip the scales against the future's Federation and the Starfleet. He is still recovering from his last battles with Captain Jean-Louis Picard and the crew of the Starship Enterprise, but when he finally mends he will set out on his ultimate mission: to subvert Earth's evolution into a starfaring civilization (thus weakening the Federation at a critical juncture) by promoting butterfly as a stroke that a rational human being would do (and as the future Federation would ban as a 'Tasteless remnant of barbarism') which would lead to a galactic boycott of Earth.

Peter: Are you saying Jean-Luc Picard was a breaststroker?

What's your favorite Star Trek episode?

Muppet
January 17th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Maybe Muppet will take you on.


as far as racing Myuppet goes...well I just looked up his times and found out that his 100 fly time from 2006 SCY Nationals is a little faster than my best time since joining masters a couple of years ago....so maybe it would be a close race between us? His 100 IM time is also just a little faster than mine as well. I didn't see a lot of 200 fly times for him ...and I guess he didn't swim that one at SCY Nats in 2006....so I can't really say what would happen there....I went 2:06 something a couple of years back...probably couldn't break 3:00 minutes if I swam it today....or finish it legally.

I sense a challenge coming on!!! Not much of a 200 flyer, but I have swum the 200 fly a few times as parts of bets... case in point, am doing it this weekend as part of the 200 fly, 400im, 500 free "animal" bet a few folks on my team are doing. Last swam 2 years ago, I think, and I think the PB was 2:17. With that event order and a recovering cold/sinus infection, I might be hitting that 3min mark. :dedhorse:

The Fortress
January 18th, 2007, 11:45 AM
I sense a challenge coming on!!! Not much of a 200 flyer, but I have swum the 200 fly a few times as parts of bets... case in point, am doing it this weekend as part of the 200 fly, 400im, 500 free "animal" bet a few folks on my team are doing. Last swam 2 years ago, I think, and I think the PB was 2:17. With that event order and a recovering cold/sinus infection, I might be hitting that 3min mark. :dedhorse:
Boo for cold/sinus infections.

Good luck this weekend on your animal swim!! Sounds absolutely awful. Do you have any "loser buy dinner" bets in place?

I sort of thought you'd swim the 200 fly a lot, since you like that distance free stuff. I think I would be much closer to 3:00 than 2:17.

In fact, I think I should not be racing anyone right now except maybe Jean-Luc Picard in breaststroke.

:dedhorse: :banana:

Muppet
January 18th, 2007, 01:26 PM
Boo for cold/sinus infections.

Good luck this weekend on your animal swim!! Sounds absolutely awful. Do you have any "loser buy dinner" bets in place?

AMEN! Just picked up my steroids to help clear out the ears. Got the left ear clear finally.

As for the "loser buy dinner" bets, the animal swim is one of these. The fastest cumulative of these three events gets dinner bought by the others.

newmastersswimmer
January 18th, 2007, 04:01 PM
Les- do not challenge Jim. Years ago I ripped the cover away from his identity...'Jim Borkowski' is just a veiled reference to his real name/title. His real name is 'The Bork' and he is a mostly-android machine intelligence sent to the earth's past to tip the scales against the future's Federation and the Starfleet. He is still recovering from his last battles with Captain Jean-Luc Picard and the crew of the Starship Enterprise, but when he finally mends he will set out on his ultimate mission: to subvert Earth's evolution into a starfaring civilization (thus weakening the Federation at a critical juncture) by promoting butterfly as a stroke that a rational human being would do (and as the future Federation would ban as a 'Tasteless remnant of barbarism') which would lead to a galactic boycott of Earth.
posted by the sesquipedalianist canuck

Fortress, ...Pay no attention to the northern sesquipedalianist behind the curtain......he is especially prone to having delusions about crazy plots to destroy the world......he often wakes up at night in a sweaty panic thinking that some super intelligent beings from the future have come to disrupt the temporal equilibrium of our particular parallel reality..... thus causing the world to be swallowed up in a catastrophic temporal vacuum that wipes out the existence of every man, woman and child that has ever lived in our current time line. Its a product of having his brain constantly bombarded by the high frequency cosmic radiation that leaks through the atmosphere near the North Pole. This so called "Bork" character is just another illusionary product of his runaway northern induced schizophrenia. Next thing you know he will be telling you crazy things like Leonard Jansen is my cohort from the future sent here to assist me in my mission to destroy the earth's future entry in this so called "Federation of Planets"........ I've never even heard of "Starfleet" and "galactic federations"?? Who is this so called arch nemesis of mine named John Luc Picard anyway??? Its really sad when you think about it. My advise is to simply humor him and then avoid contact with him as much as possible.

Newmastersswimmer

newmastersswimmer
January 18th, 2007, 04:09 PM
I sense a challenge coming on!!! Not much of a 200 flyer, but I have swum the 200 fly a few times as parts of bets... case in point, am doing it this weekend as part of the 200 fly, 400im, 500 free "animal" bet a few folks on my team are doing. Last swam 2 years ago, I think, and I think the PB was 2:17. With that event order and a recovering cold/sinus infection, I might be hitting that 3min mark
posted by Muppet


Are you going to SCY Nats in 2008? We can have our competition then. I still have to lose about 60 - 80 pounds of extra buoyant body tissue before I'll be ready to make any real challenges like that. It should be a close competition though in the 100 fly and 100 IM since you're time in the 100 fly from SCY Nats in 2006 is about 2 tenths of a second faster than my current PB as a masters swimmer...and your 100 IM time from that same meet is about 6 or 7 tenths of a second faster than my masters PB as well. I wish I lived closer to all of you guys so that I could go to some of your regular masters meets.....Its sounds like you guys are going to have a blast racing against one another.....I feel so left out now!

Newmastersswimmer

p.s. Good luck Muppet in your upcoming animal challenge!

Peter Cruise
January 18th, 2007, 04:23 PM
I see that 'The Bork' is weaving his usual obfuscatory web of evasion and deceit, last seen in the the infamous 'flame wars' where our collective civility was reduced to a smoking ruin. His reference to LBJ only reminds of the last failed galactic plot to humiliate earthlings by turning them into racewalkers. The extra pounds he refers to are likely dilithium crystals needed to power his butterfly warp drive when challenged.

Les- Captain Kirk was a noted breastroker, but never swam.

Jean-Luc Picard preferred badminton.

Muppet
January 18th, 2007, 04:33 PM
Are you going to SCY Nats in 2008? We can have our competition then. I still have to lose about 60 - 80 pounds of extra buoyant body tissue before I'll be ready to make any real challenges like that. It should be a close competition though in the 100 fly and 100 IM since you're time in the 100 fly from SCY Nats in 2006 is about 2 tenths of a second faster than my current PB as a masters swimmer...and your 100 IM time from that same meet is about 6 or 7 tenths of a second faster than my masters PB as well. I wish I lived closer to all of you guys so that I could go to some of your regular masters meets.....Its sounds like you guys are going to have a blast racing against one another.....I feel so left out now!

Newmastersswimmer

p.s. Good luck Muppet in your upcoming animal challenge!

Jim,

Barring any weddings (not my own) that may need to be attended, I am planning on it, yes! Re: my times, yeah, last year was a PB year for the Flys and IM at SCY Nats. 2005 nats was all PBs for the frees. But in the meantime, let me know what meets you're going to in NC and TN - I have been known to travel to NC to swim. Perhaps we can have a prelim in 07 and final in 08!

FlyQueen
January 18th, 2007, 06:30 PM
I hate when people plan weddings that conflict with swim meets ... uh, hello!!!


I'd like to race my big sister, fort, in the 50 fly and free.

poolraat
January 18th, 2007, 07:15 PM
Sprinter Girl
Since we both hate and despise breaststroke but still harbor this unatural desire to improve, let's race a 50. :eek: This will give us the incentive to work on it a bit more than we would otherwise. It will be ugly but so what.:banana: :banana:
Loser buys :drink:

newmastersswimmer
January 18th, 2007, 07:31 PM
I see that 'The Bork' is weaving his usual obfuscatory web of evasion and deceit, last seen in the the infamous 'flame wars' where our collective civility was reduced to a smoking ruin. His reference to LBJ only reminds of the last failed galactic plot to humiliate earthlings by turning them into racewalkers. The extra pounds he refers to are likely dilithium crystals needed to power his butterfly warp drive when challenged.
posted by the Canadian Curmudgeon


I see that our resident recalcitrant canadian curmudgeon is at it again with his endless hyper-delusional sesquipedalian pontifications.

Newmastersswimmer

(psst Leonard where are you man?.....The gig is up dude....its now code red.....I repeat: code red.....exterminate the c.c. before its too late....do you read me LBJ?)

Swimmy
January 18th, 2007, 07:39 PM
Newmasterswimmer,
You are so cute when you do your geek talk. You need to come up to MD for some open water races! You could get to meet Leonard and me!
Swimmy :)

The Fortress
January 18th, 2007, 07:53 PM
Les- Captain Kirk was a noted breastroker, but never swam [it].

Then we might have made a good couple out there in a galaxy far, far away. ;)

Good thing I like endless hyper-delusional sesquipadelian pontifications ... (Jim -- Mr. Purple Prose is my buddy despite his preferred stroke choice.) But you guys are quite the tendentious pair. I couldn't possibly keep up with your ubiquitous palavar and pillorying involving protean and lupine-like beings engaging in flagrant vigilantism in alternative virtual cosmic matrices. Just can't wait for LBJ to join in ... In one of his last posts, he called backstrokers "call girls."

FlyQueen/Baby Sister:

I think you should be racing some_girl. I believe, from her hipster ways, she's closer in age. But I'll take you on if you insist. Seems I'm going to be quite busy on the fly front. I think you should be taking on the "Bork" too. It's only fair.

Poolraat:

I must refuse your kind offer. Did you see my latest response on the "mystery of breaststroke" thread? Let's just :drink: and pray for an imminent FlyQueen dictatorship. Maybe the "Bork" can help speed up the accession. Alternatively, we could go to the Brendan Hansen/Allen Stark breaststroke clinic together.

newmastersswimmer
January 18th, 2007, 07:57 PM
Barring any weddings (not my own) that may need to be attended, I am planning on it, yes! Re: my times, yeah, last year was a PB year for the Flys and IM at SCY Nats. 2005 nats was all PBs for the frees. But in the meantime, let me know what meets you're going to in NC and TN - I have been known to travel to NC to swim. Perhaps we can have a prelim in 07 and final in 08! posted by Muppet

Sounds cool to me.....we will just have to wait and see when and where this preliminary showdown can take place....(probably not until next fall sometime). You are in a great location up there with swimmy and LBJ et al! I am very jealous!

Newmasterswimmer,
You are so cute when you do your geek talk. You need to come up to MD for some open water races! You could get to meet Leonard and me!
posted by the one and only swimmy ...our resident Poet Laureate

Swimmy!! So great to hear from you again! I hope all is well with you these days.....Have you and Leonard swam in any arctic open water swims up there lately LOL!!.....We need you to ressurect the meaning of swimming thread from the ashes with some new Swimmy poetry....perhaps an ode to swimming part XXXVI or so.....If you write a new poem then I promise to follow it up with my own poem. Also make sure to tell LBJ that the northern sesquipedalianist has blown the lid off our secret plans....ah ..excuse me, I meant to say: tell LBJ that I need to talk to him soon about optimal practices when swimming long open water swims in arctic conditions...yaeh thats the ticket.

Newmastersswimmer

p.s. What do you mean exactly by "geek talk" anyway?...(just j/k of course..LOL!!)

Swimmy
January 18th, 2007, 08:12 PM
Newmastersswimmer,
Great to talk to you too. I saw LBJ at a race last summer in MD. I do have a polar bear plunge coming up next week. You should come! We do need to get our old thread going again. Ode to the geeks.....
Swimmy :)

newmastersswimmer
January 18th, 2007, 09:39 PM
Good thing I like endless hyper-delusional sesquipadelian pontifications ... (Jim -- Mr. Purple Prose is my buddy despite his preferred stroke choice.) But you guys are quite the tendentious pair. I couldn't possibly keep up with your ubiquitous palavar and pillorying involving protean and lupine-like beings engaging in flagrant vigilantism in alternative virtual cosmic matrices. posted by the fortress

Amen! I know exactly what you mean there Sister friend.....especially the part about the alternative virtual cosmic matrices....(P.S. Is that where I eat the blue pill instead of the red pill to enter the alternate virtual matrix reality?)

Just can't wait for LBJ to join in ... In one of his last posts, he called backstrokers "call girls". posted by the fortress

Hey its not like he's galavanting around the galaxy somewhere in the 24th century or something....so lets just get that straight from the start o.k. I mean I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation for his recent absence around here.........and I thought everyone knew that all backstrokers (despite their gender) are either currently call girls or they were once call girls in a previous life.....its common 24th century knowledge...U humm, I mean common knowledge that is.

Newmastersswimmer

Peter Cruise
January 19th, 2007, 12:54 AM
Everyone needs to understand that The Bork and I used to converse in perfectly terse Hemingway-esque anglo-saxonisms until subjected to ionic radiation during the usms forums flame wars, after which we rapidly mutated to pusilanimous pussyfooting when seeking to avoid appearing incivil, while still delivering devastating dissing.

Leonard Jansen
January 19th, 2007, 08:22 AM
Also make sure to tell LBJ that the northern sesquipedalianist has blown the lid off our secret plans....ah ..excuse me, I meant to say: tell LBJ that I need to talk to him soon about optimal practices when swimming long open water swims in arctic conditions...yaeh thats the ticket.


Resistance is futile. You will be assim..... errr.... Hi everyone....

Actually JB, I cut a side deal with the Canadians that they would be spared if they delivered Alexandra Paul to me to be my love slave. I told them that, in a pinch, I'd take Jeri Ryan or Janine Turner. They are working on it, although they tell me that they are having problems driving a dog sled to Hollywood to pick one of them up.

I truth, my employer has unreasonably decided that the priority project I am on has to actually get done in a finite amount of time, hence my absence. (Oddly, the project IS the assimilation of Canada into our merciless marketing grip. Australia is crushed next.) I am being aided in this by actual Canadian citizens (aka traitors) who are women with the cutest accents. (e.g. the word "about" is pronounced "aboot").


Status report:
1) The breaststroke memory erasure implant chip is nearing completion. When installed in a victi... subject... they will forget all about the hated stroke.
2) I am in the last stages of designing wheels to fit on the sled runners of the Canadians' dog sleds for "Operation Alexandra". They will have no excuse of "lack of snow" in getting to Hollywood when that is done.
3) Training is lagging a bit this year due to wife's rediculous demands to complete remodeling of the house. Her priorities always astound me. Next she'll want me to get around to filing our 1996 tax return, I'm sure.

For the record, I did NOT call backstrokers "call girls". I said that the stroke itself was the "call girl" of swim strokes. However, if any female backstroker(s) wish to prove me wrong, I am open to "correction."

Now back to our regularly scheduled merciless takeover...

-LBJ

LindsayNB
January 19th, 2007, 09:15 AM
I am being aided in this by actual Canadian citizens (aka traitors) who are women with the cutest accents. (e.g. the word "about" is pronounced "aboot").

Despite some sort of mass-delusion south of the 49th parallel, no real Canadian ever pronounced "about" as "aboot" (ə-būt). Canadians pronounce it as "a boat" (ə-bōt).

newmastersswimmer
January 19th, 2007, 09:20 AM
Everyone needs to understand that The Bork and I used to converse in perfectly terse Hemingway-esque anglo-saxonisms until subjected to ionic radiation during the usms forums flame wars, after which we rapidly mutated to pusilanimous pussyfooting when seeking to avoid appearing incivil, while still delivering devastating dissing. posted by the canadian curmudgeon


Ah yes ...who could forget those glorious and tulmultuous days of the infamous forum flame wars....the murderous rampages and mass forum suspensions.....those were the days eh Cruise.....I get tingles all up and down my spine just thinking about it....And to think that our perfectly wonderful and maniacal plan to continue hurling our mountains of utterly menevolent monstrosities at one another while they blissfully pass by the unsuspecting eyes of our Matriarchial and monocratic forum web masters is working is a real testiment to our monolithic sized intellects (and egos...he..he).


Newmastersswimmer

SwimStud
January 19th, 2007, 09:25 AM
What's all this aboat a boot eh?

newmastersswimmer
January 19th, 2007, 09:27 AM
Actually JB, I cut a side deal with the Canadians that they would be spared if they delivered Alexandra Paul to me to be my love slave. I told them that, in a pinch, I'd take Jeri Ryan or Janine Turner. They are working on it, although they tell me that they are having problems driving a dog sled to Hollywood to pick one of them up.

Status report:
1) The breaststroke memory erasure implant chip is nearing completion. When installed in a victi... subject... they will forget all about the hated stroke.
2) I am in the last stages of designing wheels to fit on the sled runners of the Canadians' dog sleds for "Operation Alexandra". They will have no excuse of "lack of snow" in getting to Hollywood when that is done.
3) Training is lagging a bit this year due to wife's rediculous demands to complete remodeling of the house. Her priorities always astound me. Next she'll want me to get around to filing our 1996 tax return, I'm sure. Now back to our regularly scheduled merciless takeover
posted by my evil cohort...LBJ


Thanks for the updates LBJ....sounds like you've got everything under control for now as things seem to be moving along rather swimmingly for the time being. They will all soon be assimilated into 24th century racewalking and butterflying drones...Mwuhahahaha!

Newmastersswimmer

The Fortress
January 19th, 2007, 12:43 PM
Status report:

1) The breaststroke memory erasure implant chip is nearing completion. When installed in a victi... subject... they will forget all about the hated stroke.

Now, we're talking!! :lolup:

What happens when you read posts from breaststrokers lamentably and laughingly lauding their artificial "artistic" abilities (that are absolute anemic anathema) and delivering devastating dissing on the king of all strokes? Is the memory of that erased too? I won't have to wait for the Bork to install FlyQueen on the thrown if completion is near ...

Call Girl. :joker:

newmastersswimmer
January 19th, 2007, 02:47 PM
Newmastersswimmer,
Great to talk to you too. I saw LBJ at a race last summer in MD. I do have a polar bear plunge coming up next week. You should come! We do need to get our old thread going again. Ode to the geeks.....Swimmy
posted by the one and only Swimmy!

Good Luck in your polar bear plunge Swimmy!! Have you seen how the fort and the British Blowfish have resurrected our beloved poetry thread?! Its time for a new classic poem by Swimmy now. Where is Seagirl?...We need new material Seagirl (come out come out where ever you are....time to come out of hiding now and join in on the fun!).

Newmastersswimmer

islandsox
January 19th, 2007, 02:52 PM
Since I just started back into training this week, M-W-F only this week and next, I would have to change my earlier challenge from distance to this after 3 workouts:

I'll challenge the Fortress to drills only; and they have to be very short drills instead of a backstroke stair race. I am now thinking after discovering how I feel after 3 workouts, that no more than one length of the pool in any given drill.

And I think I had also challenged Terry to a multiple mile swim, well, based on this week's performance and tremendous soreness, I am going to renig that entirely unless I have a very good handicap.

Sorry I have been off the forum for so long, not only do we not have internet in-home, our power went off for 5 days!!!:help:

Donna

ensignada
January 19th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Sorry I have been off the forum for so long, not only do we not have internet in-home, our power went off for 5 days!!!:help:

Donna, you've been missed! So glad that you're back.

I'm interested in hearing your training tales and woes as you get ready for the big race. Perhaps you could think of sharing your experiences on a thread? Just a thought. Happy swimming.:wiggle:

swim4me
January 19th, 2007, 04:19 PM
What's all this aboat a boot eh?

You people with accents, don't even know you have accents :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

SwimStud
January 19th, 2007, 05:51 PM
You people with accents, don't even know you have accents :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh trust me, we do ;)

Swimmy
January 22nd, 2007, 09:29 AM
I sense a challenge coming on!!! Not much of a 200 flyer, but I have swum the 200 fly a few times as parts of bets... case in point, am doing it this weekend as part of the 200 fly, 400im, 500 free "animal" bet a few folks on my team are doing. Last swam 2 years ago, I think, and I think the PB was 2:17. With that event order and a recovering cold/sinus infection, I might be hitting that 3min mark. :dedhorse:

How did your "animal" race go this weekend?
Swimmy :)

Muppet
January 22nd, 2007, 10:31 AM
How did your "animal" race go this weekend?
Swimmy :)

Hello Teammate! We missed you there this weekend, Swimmy!

The animal race went well for the first 2/3 of the challenge. 400IM was in PB time of 4:48.27, and 1:05 behind the leader. 200 Fly another PB with 2:15.28, 1st place finish, and moved closer, now .60 behind the leader.

There were some issues that did not allow us to finish our bet at that time, so the 500 portion will be swum as part of practice on Wednesday evening. All are invited!!

some_girl
January 22nd, 2007, 03:45 PM
FlyQueen/Baby Sister:

I think you should be racing some_girl. I believe, from her hipster ways, she's closer in age.

I'm waiting to see the FlyQueen's results from this weekend before issuing a challenge. I like to know where I stand.

FlyQueen
January 22nd, 2007, 04:17 PM
Some girl, I'm betting you are faster. I'm still somewhat new to this whole masters swim thing and to swimming in general. What are your events? I am positive you could take me in back and breast and likely anything over 100 yards as those events are too far for me.

some_girl
January 22nd, 2007, 04:22 PM
Some girl, I'm betting you are faster. I'm still somewhat new to this whole masters swim thing and to swimming in general. What are your events? I am positive you could take me in back and breast and likely anything over 100 yards as those events are too far for me.

This is only my second year racing. My youthful swimming was pretty much tea parties at the bottom of the pool and getting beaten up by waves. Like you, I pretty much swim only fly and free: 50 and 100 (200 free sometimes). Maybe we are the same person?

FlyQueen
January 22nd, 2007, 04:31 PM
Oh, then your on for a 50 fly. Or a 50 free your choice. I'm aiming to break :30 in my fly and for a :26 in my free, though I'm sadly off on both of those right now.

The Fortress
January 22nd, 2007, 04:42 PM
I'd like to race FlyQueen to see who can do the most consecutive front walkovers across Wrigley Field from first to third base. :joker:

FlyQueen
January 22nd, 2007, 04:53 PM
I'd like to race FlyQueen to see who can do the most consecutive front walkovers across Wrigley Field from first to third base. :joker:

You'd win hands down. I was NEVER able to do front walkover. My front tumbling in general was a joke - I could rotate well so my flips weren't terrible, but I was not a twister and was certainly never good enough to learn double fronts so my front tumbling passes were always a challenge.

If we change it to backwalkovers you are on!

some_girl
January 22nd, 2007, 04:56 PM
Oh, then your on for a 50 fly. Or a 50 free your choice. I'm aiming to break :30 in my fly and for a :26 in my free, though I'm sadly off on both of those right now.

50 fly you're on for. I'm much closer to a 30 in that than a 26 in the 50 free. Going to nationals?

FlyQueen
January 22nd, 2007, 05:02 PM
I'm not close to that 26 yet either. Though hopefully by taper I will be. Not going to Nationals this year, but definitely next. Perhaps we can postal our times this year.

some_girl
January 22nd, 2007, 05:03 PM
Perhaps we can postal our times this year.

Definitely. One year: best of all choices, following year head to head. I like that.

Swimmy
January 22nd, 2007, 08:48 PM
Hello Teammate! We missed you there this weekend, Swimmy!

The animal race went well for the first 2/3 of the challenge. 400IM was in PB time of 4:48.27, and 1:05 behind the leader. 200 Fly another PB with 2:15.28, 1st place finish, and moved closer, now .60 behind the leader.

There were some issues that did not allow us to finish our bet at that time, so the 500 portion will be swum as part of practice on Wednesday evening. All are invited!!



Hahaha! Someone had to go to practice on Saturday! I only race when there are sharks or jellyfish or sea lions chasing me! Good luck on Wed.!
Swimmy:)

Muppet
January 26th, 2007, 04:58 PM
I think Julieopl just challenged me in the Bay Swim.... :thhbbb:
guess she got all cocky b/c she won the lottery for that event too...

Julie Roddin
January 26th, 2007, 05:15 PM
I think Julieopl just challenged me in the Bay Swim.... :thhbbb:
guess she got all cocky b/c she won the lottery for that event too...

Ha ha....this is going to be FUN!!! I really did feel like I won the entire race based on the "Congratulations you won the Bay Swim lottery" email that they sent.

You know you're taking on the defending 1-mile champ??? :applaud:


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