Attaboy or attagirl: SR NH everyone welcome

[Peter Cruise]

I thought I'd try an experiment here. I propose that anyone of any swimming level can use this thread (or not) when, whether in a small way or earthshaking manner you've done something in the pool that you're proud and/or pleased by. Anyone is welcome to add encouraging comments (or not) or ask for more info., but please no grandstanding or feuding.


Okay- I'll go first (and I'm just as hesitant as anyone else). Context: last few months hellish: collapse of my dream business, death in family, huge money troubles etc. result months out of water & exercise & 30lb gain. Further, I just went back over the last 10 yrs, averaged 1 meet a year, no more than 4 months training in any one year. So- been back in water 4 weeks, 2-3 times a week and mostly feeling like chopped liver. Monday night coach say we're going to do dive 25's (meters) from blocks, starter's instructions. Now I haven't done this in years 'cause I have a very bad neck- but I've been frustrated so...did all 3 breastroke 16.3, 15.5, 16.2 which tells me I've still got prospects to go fast again! I am pleased.

[Seagurl51]

Peter that's awesome!!!! Congrats!! :applaud:



This morning I finally realized that I might actually be getting faster. We had a set of 4 x 100 on 1:50 and I managed to hold all 4 under 1:30. I haven't been able to do that since I started swimming again 2 years ago. The end of last year was really hard personally and I missed a lot of pool time, and the 6 months before that I was unable to swim for various reasons. Now I'm training for Nationals and stoked to see that my times might actually drop by then.

I really like the idea of this thread too. Often times when I accomplish something in the pool, my friends don't understand how important it is or what a big deal it is too me. I've often wanted to say something on this site, but like you haven't had the courage. And it's kinda nice to have a pat on the back and share your happiness with people who get it.

[Peter Cruise]

Good going, Kyra!

[The Fortress]

Peter:

How cool is that? Great job. Overcoming adversity and being resilient are two of the best traits a person and swimmer can have. I really admire that. I also admire those 25 times! Smoking. I'd say you're back, Rock Star. Do you have a meet in the future?

Kyra:

I agree. People sometimes just look at you cross eyed when you want to talk about the finer points of swimming. I also think it's encouraging that we can all miss time in the pool and still come back, sometimes stronger than ever. As adults, masters swimmers often face great challenges in balancing life and swimming. It's nice to know we sometimes win! You're going to do great at Nationals!

[meldyck]

Peter,

I have nothing particular to be proud of at the moment. BUT, I'm hoping that you will show up at Federal Way in May. It's a lot closer for you than me & I'm going. Since I missed you at Can Nats last year, I'm hoping to meet up with you in WA this year.

Meanwhile, my training is going well, even though it's the middle of cross-country ski racing season. I'm in West Yellowstone at the moment with my wife to humiliate myself in skiing in order to put the swimming into proper perspective.

Cheers!

-- mel

[nancytris]

Thank you Peter -- I think I am going to love this thread:groovy: .

I will start by saying that I am not swimming with any master's team and do everything on my own. Secondly -- I am verrrrry slowww:snore: :snore: :snore:

That's out of the way!

Beginning in 2007 I have been very consistent with 3 swims a week -- thanks mainly to the Go The Distance Challenge on this site that I am doing -- and have seen some improvements over the past two months.
I have taken off one whole minute from my 400 meter swim (note, I am not citing the time it takes me) :wave: .

I have a no-kick and again, I repeat, I am a slow swimmer (working on getting a bit faster) and this guy in the lane next to me looked so fast and had what appears to be a strong and powerful kick. Welllll - on my long glide and strong catch and little flutter kick -- guess what! I passed him each time he started his length just before my turn.:woot:

The first time I thought is was surely a fluke!:rolleyes: But when it happened several more times, I simply congrtaulated myself.

Sorry this is long, but I am so happy with myself, and this is the first place I have told about it.:banana: Thanks for the opportunity.

[Peter Cruise]

Nancy- that's exactly what I want to see. You're making progress, that's terrific!

Les- No meets for awhile, lose lard, get job etc.

Mel- Probably not: financially difficult, 2 kids still in college & still looking for new work. Plus- still 54 by yards rules. I admit with time & money available I'd come & be sociable but, reality intrudes.

[funkyfish]

First off, cool thread!

Here's mine. Got struck down with pneumonia in the early part of February, put me out of any kind of exercise for about two and a half weeks. Got to the gym last Friday to try and lift weights. Was weak, but actually not too bad. Felt confident enough to swim earlier Mon. of this week. Took is slow and easy, but got 2000yds in. It's interesting, my anerobic strength seems to be returning faster than my aerobic strength (guess that makes sense with a lung infection). So, that's my attaboy, and here's the :banana:

[newmastersswimmer]

Congrats to Nancy, funkyfish, and Peter!! I also think this was an excellent idea for a thread Peter! I am very sorry to hear about your recent misfortunes....but (as cliche as this is going to sound...forgive me!) life can be a bit like a roller coaster ride....I am sure you will ride this out and things will turn around for you Peter! You have way too much good Karma for it not to turn around! I don't have anything to personally add right now b/c I haven't been in the water for a while and I'm waaay overweight right now....but I will use your stories as an inspiration to get myself back on track....hopefully I will have something postive to post about myself before too long.

Newmastersswimmer

[FlyQueen]

Congrats to you all. I could tell my non-swimming friends and most of my family that I swam a 100 in 2 minutes or 40 seconds and they'd have the same reaction. I'll wait until I surpass my goals for state/my taper meet to post my accomplishments.

[knelson]

Monday night I made a set of 3 x 100 on 1:05 (SCY). This was at the end of a 2,500 yard set that also included 5x100 on 1:15 and 4x100 on 1:10. I was feeling pretty wrecked before practice from skiing some really deep powder the day before, so I was really happy with that workout. Definitely makes me feel like I'm on track for Nationals!

[Peter Cruise]

Great swimming, Kirk. What are you swimming at Nats?

[swimshark]

Great thread. And kudos to you all. I love to see improvements, no matter how big or small.

I am lucky in that my whole family is involved in swimming so I can tell them my accomplishments and they understand.

My recent one was a few weeks ago. Let me start by saying I am NOT a sprinter. You tell me to go fast and my body goes slower for some reason. I love distance. So, with that said, I don't sprint often but in practice we (this is a kids team I practice with) did 3x100 off the blocks for time. My fastest 100 free to that date was over 3 years ago and it was a 1:05 in a meet. This particular Sat I did 2 100's at 1:04 (the last was a 1:06). So my fastest time for 100 free ws during a practice! No special suit, no special goggles, nothing extra. I also got out of that practice and did the masters practice right after getting in 3 miles for the Go the Distance.

Alison

[waves101]

My attaboy involves attempting to overcome the aging factor. Turned 40 in February but since doing so I have maintained my goal of averaging a mile per calendar day in the Go the Distance program, set 2 SCM state records and swam the best 50 and 100 that I have in a couple of years at last weekends meet (and I had hurt my back that week requiring 3 visits to the chiro to straighten it out). If the 40's continue like this I guess I'll be happy with the swimming accomplishments but in pain all the while. Hopefully its just the pain thing that goes away!

[knelson]

Great swimming, Kirk. What are you swimming at Nats?

Haven't decided 100%, but most likely the 200, 500, 1650 free, 200 fly and 400 IM. Not sure about a sixth event. Most likely the 200 IM or the 100 free...or just do five events. The five I listed seem like plenty :)

[jsmwbnc]

here is my attaboy story, it actually happened today haha. when i went to swim, one of the lifeguards (who is a UNCW swimmer) dared me to do a 100 free for time off the blocks, i dunno why he wanted me to but i chose to do it anways. i did my warm up and stretched. he started me and i went a 52.8. my splits were 24.5 and 28.3, bad splitting i know but i'm really stoked about it because my best time ever is a 52.7 and that was with a shave and taper, and i was also swimming on an age group team 9 practices a week and now i swim by myself 6 practices. also, at my last meet, about 3 weeks ago in the 100 free i only went a 53.51. .7 sec. faster today and that's with only a little bit of sprint training added to my workouts since then. today i was not rested and still very sore from yesterday's hard workout in the weightroom. the lifeguard said my starts and turns pretty much were horrible but the swimming wasn't bad. i guess now i'll start working on starts, turns, and doing more sprints because i really wanna go a 49.99 at my meet in a month. i'm also going to reduce my yardage from 6000 to around 4500 so i can do a lot more sprinting. i forgot how bad the pain is in a 100 so im gonna start doing some sets that recreate that pain and maybe i can get used to sprinting when i'm tired and my splits won't be so off. just wanted to share

[judystrauss]

This is a great idea!

OK.... I had breast cancer last year and had a mastectomy in May... I swam at Worlds! I had surgery again in late September and now I'm training for Nationals.... I'm proud of myself. It's slow going, getting back to where I was but I managed to swim 50,000 yds last month.

Swimstud, oh I mean Tarzan.... or is it Rich prompted me to post this!

Judy

[SwimStud]

This is a great idea!

OK.... I had breast cancer last year and had a mastectomy in May... I swam at Worlds! I had surgery again in late September and now I'm training for Nationals.... I'm proud of myself. It's slow going, getting back to where I was but I managed to swim 50,000 yds last month.

Judy

A big "ADDAGOIRL" for you Judy ;)
For your courage and also for thoughtfulness in posting and trying to pull others with issues together to support each other.
"Rich" is good for when I'm being sensible (not otfen).

[funkyfish]

First off, cool thread!

Here's mine. Got struck down with pneumonia in the early part of February, put me out of any kind of exercise for about two and a half weeks. Got to the gym last Friday to try and lift weights. Was weak, but actually not too bad. Felt confident enough to swim earlier Mon. of this week. Took is slow and easy, but got 2000yds in. It's interesting, my anerobic strength seems to be returning faster than my aerobic strength (guess that makes sense with a lung infection). So, that's my attaboy, and here's the :banana:

Ok, quick update. Got back from swimming during lunch, and did 2500yds in the same time I did the 2000yds earlier Mon. Seems silly, but I'm really excited about the improvement. So, I guess this is the last time I'll play the "sick card." Again, great thread, like to see the triumphs, both great and small.

[Peter Cruise]

Thank you all for the positive messages re this thread both here and via PM's.
This is what I visualized, whether someone making a record, completing their first race, recovering from whatever, getting over a fear...I'm hoping that we can keep this going over time and it can be a testament to the 'can do' attitude that makes life (and swimming) go so much smoother. Again, no judgements needed here other than 'Well done'.

[The Fortress]

This is a great idea!

OK.... I had breast cancer last year and had a mastectomy in May... I swam at Worlds! I had surgery again in late September and now I'm training for Nationals.... I'm proud of myself. It's slow going, getting back to where I was but I managed to swim 50,000 yds last month.

Swimstud, oh I mean Tarzan.... or is it Rich prompted me to post this!

Judy


How cool is this! You go girl! 50,000 yards is a ton. You've got me cold this last month.

Myself, I would like to report that I swam for the first time in 8 whole days last night. Only for an hour or so. I did 900 meters of breaststroke and breaststroke kick among other things. 10 x 50 meters breast on the 1:00 with the monofin on the advice of my friend Muppet. Since this is a "no judgment" thread, I do not want to get any claptrap about doing breaststroke. Even from evil Paul Smith.

[newmastersswimmer]

How cool is this! You go girl! 50,000 yards is a ton. You've got me cold this last month.

Myself, I would like to report that I swam for the first time in 8 whole days last night. Only for an hour or so. I did 900 meters of breaststroke and breaststroke kick among other things. 10 x 50 meters breast on the 1:00 with the monofin on the advice of my friend Muppet.

posted by Fort

Ditto from too on what Fort said. Thanks for sharing that with us Judy....It is soooo inspiring to hear things like that!! I am so happy for you! I'll try not to hold the fact that you are friends with that British dude (AKA Little Richard) against you as well.....LOL!!

Newmastersswimmer

[Paul Smith]

Since this is a "no judgment" thread, I do not want to get any claptrap about doing breaststroke. Even from evil Paul Smith.

You have NO idea how much self control this is taking to not.....Ok, I'm just going to stop!

Great thread Peter........and hang in there!

As for me.....the knee is getting better and I've been able to swim more consistently....plus I've dropped 13lbs.....long way to go still but thats what life is all about....

[Donna]

For those who have ever struggled with weight there are milestones we set for ourselves that sometimes are harder to hit than beating a specific time or placing in a race.

In 1982 was the last year that I swam competitively and upon finishing that season I was 175 lbs. Since then my weight had gone over 220 at one point. Three years ago when I started back to swimming I was about 205 lbs. in plus size suits, bad back. Could not even touch the block on a start for over a year due to back pain. The pain is more of a stiffening now but still lets me remember my limitations.

TODAY I CELEBRATED! 175 lbs for the first time in 25 years!:banana: Have just finished month 2 of the Go the Distance Challenge with 126 miles total since January and really looking forward to shattering my 1650 time from last years nationals at this years event.

Going for 170 lbs. at the end of March.

Donna

[SwimStud]

For those who have ever struggled with weight there are milestones we set for ourselves that sometimes are harder to hit than beating a specific time or placing in a race.

In 1982 was the last year that I swam competitively and upon finishing that season I was 175 lbs. Since then my weight had gone over 220 at one point. Three years ago when I started back to swimming I was about 205 lbs. in plus size suits, bad back. Could not even touch the block on a start for over a year due to back pain. The pain is more of a stiffening now but still lets me remember my limitations.

TODAY I CELEBRATED! 175 lbs for the first time in 25 years!:banana: Have just finished month 2 of the Go the Distance Challenge with 126 miles total since January and really looking forward to shattering my 1650 time from last years nationals at this years event.

Going for 170 lbs. at the end of March.

Donna

Attagirl Donna you get a:woot: :applaud: and a :smooch:

[nancytris]

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: Way to go Donna!! You are a true inspiration.

[newmastersswimmer]

Ditto from me too Donna!! Congrats on the weight loss and overall fitness level you have been able to achieve! I can relate to your story b/c I too struggle with weight issues....I'll take your story as inspiration for me to follow suit!

Newmastersswimmer

[SwimStud]

Ditto from me too Donna!! Congrats on the weight loss and overall fitness level you have been able to achieve! I can relate to your story b/c I too struggle with weight issues....I'll take your story as inspiration for me to follow suit!

Newmastersswimmer

Jim I don't care how much weight you lose though...I'm not giving you one of these...:smooch:

[newmastersswimmer]

Jim I don't care how much weight you lose though...I'm not giving you one of these...:smooch:

Well Rich....I will just have to find some way to keep on living with this new revelation of yours....LOL!!:thhbbb: :rofl:

Congrats Jsbwbnc on that 100 free time! Thats awesome to get so close to a PB at practice (and the day after a day of hard weight lifting at that)...sounds like if you had a better start and turns you would have been in the low 51 range on that too. I think you will surpass your goal...Good luck!

Newmastersswimmer

[indyswimbag]

this thread is soo cool!! everyone GREAT job...

I only have a small (ok not small to me) thing to add. I am a breastroker by trade but for the 1st time ever...in practice (on my own) but a lifegaurd as a witness....I did a 200 FLY!! without stopping and throwing up a kidney!!

[Allen Stark]

After a hurt shoulder and a "flu-like illness" that kept me out of the water,this was the first week that I was actually able to swim(instead of just kick,or lie in bed and moan.)Just 2000 yd. yesterday,but it included real freestyle and real breaststroke.
Peter,I am glad you are back swimming,if only you hadn't aged up to 55-59 I'd be totally overjoyed for you,but since I have seen how fast you can go when you are in shape I think you should work into it slowly.You don't want to do too much too soon and hurt your self. Two years seems about right doesn't it:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Peter Cruise]

Allen- I'm hoping you have about 6 months grace for the 50 & 100, but you can have the 200. Hope you get over your stuff, want to race you both of us healthy.

[nancytris]

:groovy: OK -- another attagirl for me!! For about a year now I have swum at the same time once or twice a week as another (younger) woman who mainly swims in the lane next to me. In the past I would fight reallllly hard to TRY to keep up with her for some of the laps. After a few lengths she would always pull ahead and of course end up way ahead within a short amount of time.

Today! I not only caught up with her after she had pushed off from the wall, I kept up with her for several laps and started to inch ahead when she stopped swimming. I'm sure it was because she was nearing the end of her workout and NOT because I was about to pass her:rolleyes:

My reading about and practicing some drills, my consistent 3 swims a week, and the one freestyle clinic I attended last month are paying off!

:wiggle:

[Peter Cruise]

Very satisfying, I'll bet Nancy. Great to see your effort pay off.

[Donna]

Great job Nancy!

[SwimStud]

:groovy: OK -- another attagirl for me!! For about a year now I have swum at the same time once or twice a week as another (younger) woman who mainly swims in the lane next to me. In the past I would fight reallllly hard to TRY to keep up with her for some of the laps. After a few lengths she would always pull ahead and of course end up way ahead within a short amount of time.

Today! I not only caught up with her after she had pushed off from the wall, I kept up with her for several laps and started to inch ahead when she stopped swimming. I'm sure it was because she was nearing the end of her workout and NOT because I was about to pass her:rolleyes:

My reading about and practicing some drills, my consistent 3 swims a week, and the one freestyle clinic I attended last month are paying off!

:wiggle:

Nancy, I hope you shouted "In your face whippersnapper!" at her as she exited ;)

Atta-girl hehe

[swim4me]

I have been swimming three days a week (sometimes a Saturday or Sunday also if time and pool allow) since October. On January 24th we all swam a T-20 (so we could fit in two groups during our hour time). I swam 40 laps and because I had never done this before, had nothing to compare it to. I had the most laps of the team (all a new team). Anyway, we swam another one on February 23rd and I swam 51 laps :groovy: . It felt really good to improve that much in a month. I have also lost 10 pounds in that amount of time. I think the weight loss may have had something to do with the increase in laps as well as anything else. Anyway, it feels really good to see such an improvement.

[SwimStud]

I have been swimming three days a week (sometimes a Saturday or Sunday also if time and pool allow) since October. On January 24th we all swam a T-20 (so we could fit in two groups during our hour time). I swam 40 laps and because I had never done this before, had nothing to compare it to. I had the most laps of the team (all a new team). Anyway, we swam another one on February 23rd and I swam 51 laps :groovy: . It felt really good to improve that much in a month. I have also lost 10 pounds in that amount of time. I think the weight loss may have had something to do with the increase in laps as well as anything else. Anyway, it feels really good to see such an improvement.

Awesome...atta-girl
Kudos on the weight too I bet that feels good huh? :woot: :smooch:


Pssst *we need a smilie for a wolf-whistle here...*

[ensignada]

I think I'm swimming a little faster or the pool's getting a little shorter.

You know how you can get into a groove and kind of 'feel' the wall coming up? Several times lately, I've reached the wall before I'm expecting to. It's a odd feeling: stroke, stroke, stroke and %$@^$!, the wall! I've nearly smacked into it a few times. It may sound silly, but it's a thrilling feeling, when the wall sneaks up on me.

[SwimStud]

I think I'm swimming a little faster or the pool's getting a little shorter.

You know how you can get into a groove and kind of 'feel' the wall coming up? Several times lately, I've reached the wall before I'm expecting to. It's a odd feeling: stroke, stroke, stroke and %$@^$!, the wall! I've nearly smacked into it a few times. It may sound silly, but it's a thrilling feeling, when the wall sneaks up on me.

as long as it's not from behind I am OK.

[nancytris]

I have been swimming three days a week (sometimes a Saturday or Sunday also if time and pool allow) since October. On January 24th we all swam a T-20 (so we could fit in two groups during our hour time). I swam 40 laps and because I had never done this before, had nothing to compare it to. I had the most laps of the team (all a new team). Anyway, we swam another one on February 23rd and I swam 51 laps :groovy: . It felt really good to improve that much in a month. I have also lost 10 pounds in that amount of time. I think the weight loss may have had something to do with the increase in laps as well as anything else. Anyway, it feels really good to see such an improvement.

Very impressive Kathy. I am now on the quest to lose some of my pounds!! Ah yes, that fabulous feeling when you see an improvement.

Attagirl Kathy.

[nancytris]

Nancy, I hope you shouted "In your face whippersnapper!" at her as she exited ;)

Atta-girl hehe

Not exactly Rich!!I did surreptitiously stand at one point and count her SPL.... all 39 of them to my 19-20! Little did I realize "back in the day" that I would be putting in what must be a little less effort to swim near the same time as this person. She has obviously not been doing the research and follow through that I have been doing, so seems to be using a lot of energy.

Thanks all of you for your acknowledgement. We all know that having these triumphs is satisfying to just do them, but sharing makes it even more motivational and exciting. So thanks again to all of you. We are ALL awesome!!

[swim4me]

Very impressive Kathy. I am now on the quest to lose some of my pounds!! Ah yes, that fabulous feeling when you see an improvement.

Attagirl Kathy.

Thanks Stud and Nancy!!! It feels really good to see improvement in swimming and to see the scale go down. I am very tall, so I don't look as heavy as I am, but I still have 20 pounds to go.

Nancy,

the coach really got me started loosing. I have tried many times and have failed. I feel like I am accountable to him, so that helps. Also, really whatching what I eat..... I have almost completely cut out bread and have not had any chips at the Mexican restaurants (the one I go to has a good Mexican Cobb salad) since I began this diet. I eat a lot of salads and fruit. I allow myself one 'fun size' chocolate from the office candy dish once a day (instead of 4 pieces every time I pass by) and I really enjoy that one piece. I have stopped drinking for now. I figure it is extra calories that I would rather eat, and I do drinking lots and lots of water. I am not starving, just trying to be sensible and it is working. It is basically changing my eating habits so I don't eat as much as I can and I really enjoy my food. If my family goes to eat out at a place where I know I won't have good choices, I don't go with them. (does not happen often). It helps to have a support group. My coach and my co-workers are good support. Co-workers check out my lunch and snacks every day (ok with me) and are very supportive. My husband and daughter have also been very complimentary. Good luck with your quest!!!!!!

[globuggie]

This isn't quite as recent, but I've been swimming with a friend since the beginning of January. He's faster than me, so I'm usually barely keeping up with the intervals. During the first week of January, we did 4x100 on 1:40. I made the first one, missed the interval on the second one, did a 50 on the third, and swam the fourth. In mid-February, I completed a set of 6x100 free on 1:40, making the interval on all but the last one. I got less than 5 sec rest on most of them, but I made it!

[SwimStud]

Thanks Stud and Nancy!!! It feels really good to see improvement in swimming and to see the scale go down. I am very tall, so I don't look as heavy as I am, but I still have 20 pounds to go.



The good thing is once you suffer through this losing phase you'll be on maintenace and be able to eat a lot more enjoyable foods and not gain it back...provided you're swimming hard.

[swim4me]

The good thing is once you suffer through this losing phase you'll be on maintenace and be able to eat a lot more enjoyable foods and not gain it back...provided you're swimming hard.

That is the plan and I can't wait for the maintenance Phase!!!!!

[swim4me]

This isn't quite as recent, but I've been swimming with a friend since the beginning of January. He's faster than me, so I'm usually barely keeping up with the intervals. During the first week of January, we did 4x100 on 1:40. I made the first one, missed the interval on the second one, did a 50 on the third, and swam the fourth. In mid-February, I completed a set of 6x100 free on 1:40, making the interval on all but the last one. I got less than 5 sec rest on most of them, but I made it!


It feels good, doesn't it!!!! Attaboy!!!!!!

[nancytris]

Thanks Stud and Nancy!!! It feels really good to see improvement in swimming and to see the scale go down. I am very tall, so I don't look as heavy as I am, but I still have 20 pounds to go.

Nancy,

the coach really got me started loosing. I have tried many times and have failed. I feel like I am accountable to him, so that helps. Also, really whatching what I eat..... I have almost completely cut out bread and have not had any chips at the Mexican restaurants (the one I go to has a good Mexican Cobb salad) since I began this diet. I eat a lot of salads and fruit. I allow myself one 'fun size' chocolate from the office candy dish once a day (instead of 4 pieces every time I pass by) and I really enjoy that one piece. I have stopped drinking for now. I figure it is extra calories that I would rather eat, and I do drinking lots and lots of water. I am not starving, just trying to be sensible and it is working. It is basically changing my eating habits so I don't eat as much as I can and I really enjoy my food. If my family goes to eat out at a place where I know I won't have good choices, I don't go with them. (does not happen often). It helps to have a support group. My coach and my co-workers are good support. Co-workers check out my lunch and snacks every day (ok with me) and are very supportive. My husband and daughter have also been very complimentary. Good luck with your quest!!!!!!

Thanks for these tips Kathy -- this may be another thread in the making!! Staying away from the candy dish(es) at work is a very big first step for me!! Next is probably drinking much more water. You are helping me climb aboard your pound losing boat!

[SwimStud]

Thanks for these tips Kathy -- this may be another thread in the making!! Staying away from the candy dish(es) at work is a very big first step for me!! Next is probably drinking much more water. You are helping me climb aboard your pound losing boat!


Just remember ladies...having fun is the important thing. Eat sensibly, swim hard and smile lots...the weight will take care of itself.

Most important...remember you're beautiful just the way you are.
;)

[nancytris]

Just remember ladies...having fun is the important thing. Eat sensibly, swim hard and smile lots...the weight will take care of itself.

Most important...remember you're beautiful just the way you are.
;)

AWWW Rich, how sweet you are:smooch: .

[swim4me]

Just remember ladies...having fun is the important thing. Eat sensibly, swim hard and smile lots...the weight will take care of itself.

Most important...remember you're beautiful just the way you are.
;)


The 'Stud' strikes again :smooch:

[Peter Cruise]

Sheesh! Rich...

[SwimStud]

Sheesh! Rich...

What? is "charming" now banned too? :D

[Peter Cruise]

Ach me lad, me bein' but a simple country lad, in awe I was at the charm ye be handin' out to the ladies.

[newmastersswimmer]

Just remember ladies...having fun is the important thing. Eat sensibly, swim hard and smile lots...the weight will take care of itself.

Most important...remember you're beautiful just the way you are.
;)

Somebody slap that British dude! (just kidding....of course all of the ladies here are beautiful people....I've enjoyed reading all of y'all's postings!!). I also find these postings about weight loss a major inspiration for me too since I have weight issues....So I can identify with these issues too (and get in touch with my feminine side) even though I'm not British o.k.!! I can even sit through a romantic comedy starring Julia Roberts on occaission....well only if the boss...uhumm I mean my wife makes me that is!...LOL!!:joker:

Newmastersswimmer

[newmastersswimmer]

What? is "charming" now banned too? :D

Only when you steal a bunch of :smooch: and :hug: from the female posters and make us American guys jealous!!

On a serious note though...I have really enjoyed reading the postings on this thread...I nominate it for one of the highly coveted USMS Threadie awards for the most feel good thread of the year.....I guess every once in a while the Ranger from The North has a decent idea or two...(j/k of course Peter!...or am I?)

Newmastersswimmer

[jiminos]

gee, i read all of these and i kinda feel horribly outclassed here.... but...

i've been back in the water since dec 06 (after 30+ year hiatus). friday night i swam (swum, swimmed) two miles continuo...contim... continuu... without stopping. it all felt very good, very smooth... and felt i could go further when i did stop.....

no startling speed, no races, no great competition... just one with the water....

be,

jim

[nancytris]

gee, i read all of these and i kinda feel horribly outclassed here.... but...

i've been back in the water since dec 06 (after 30+ year hiatus). friday night i swam (swum, swimmed) two miles continuo...contim... continuu... without stopping. it all felt very good, very smooth... and felt i could go further when i did stop.....

no startling speed, no races, no great competition... just one with the water....

be,

jim
That's a lot of conitou..conteni.. non stop swimming for not having been in the pool for all these years! You MUST have been doing something else to maintain all that strength, endurance and aerobic capacity:woot:

Good job, and welcome back to the pool....:groovy:

[Peter Cruise]

Jim- good job. There is nobody outclassing anyone on this thread; encouragement, affirmation and the occasional gentle kidding await any positive developments posted.

[Peter Cruise]

Jim- BTW we had our honeymoon at Ocean Shores- love the place!

[jiminos]

Peter, thank you for the kind words. (come on down when you get a chance. we'll have coffee.)

Nancy, i haven't really done a lot. I run a bit. mostly, i attribute the distance in the pool to a very low energy form... at no time during the swim am i out of breath (if that happens, i stop and think about what i was doing or not doing with the goal of correcting the form deficiency). at the end of a swim like that, i still feel fresh. it takes me about 36 minutes (plus or minus 4 min) to go one mile. for me, it truly is all about being one with the water. (you also seem to be not too far away, nancy... the invite for a cup of coffee stands for you, too.)

be,

jim

[FlyQueen]

PR in the 100 free today by .5 by going out all out from the start or at least my version of all out on a 100. Splits were 2.5 apart. Happy about this and ready to see how much I drop at taper!!!

Congrats to everyone that has been improving!

[SwimStud]

PR in the 100 free today by .5 by going out all out from the start or at least my version of all out on a 100. Splits were 2.5 apart. Happy about this and ready to see how much I drop at taper!!!

Congrats to everyone that has been improving!

Atta girl Heather... ;)

[Peter Cruise]

Great, Heather- just think how many pb's awaiting you when you finally embrace breastroke...

[Julie Roddin]

Ok, here goes....

I did a meet today, only signed up last Wednesday. It started off awful...18 seconds slower in the 500 than at zones last year and ended up at 5:58. I went 5:50 in practice a few weeks ago. Shook it off, got a good warm down and then went into 100 back feeling much more relaxed. I took .8 seconds off my best time in masters. I was thrilled! Had a long break and then the 200 IM...just had nothing, I tried to swim fast, but couldn't even push myself to go faster. Got out of the pool, moved from lane 6 over to lane 3, watched the three heats of 50 breast and then back up on the blocks for my once in a lifetime 200 fly. Could barely get my arms out of the water for the last 25, but did it legally and actually think I may do it again someday.

Despite all the time I added to my 500, I'm not worried about zones. I think with taper, rest, etc. I will be faster than last year. It was good to do this meet because I needed a kick in the butt to focus more during my workouts. I'm excited about my 100 back and think that my college PR is somewhere in my future, but maybe not this year. Still, I'm excited for the Albatross Open in three weeks and then Zones in April.

Does anyone else have trouble with their first event of the meet? This is becoming a chronic problem that I have had for the last two years. I am always so wound up before the first event and do really bad, then am able to regroup and follow it up with good swims.

Oh, and I met swimshark in the locker room after the meet. Looking forward to chatting more at the next meet :)

Julie

[jiminos]

for me, this is a goal achieved....
early this afternoon..... swim 1 1/3 miles.... get home, change, run 4.2 miles... it felt soooooooooo good.....

bliss twice in one day! :banana:

be,

jim

[SwimStud]

Does anyone else have trouble with their first event of the meet? This is becoming a chronic problem that I have had for the last two years. I am always so wound up before the first event and do really bad, then am able to regroup and follow it up with good swims.

Oh, and I met swimshark in the locker room after the meet. Looking forward to chatting more at the next meet :)

Julie

Julie never fear. I and my amazing 50 fly and 100IM will be on hand at Zones to make you feel much better. OMG is all I can say about my IM and fly! I sometimes feel I'm not awake on my first event if it's early...I think I need to be a little more vigourous in the warm up...

[ensignada]

My daughter's swim teacher timed me again for 50 free. I dropped 5 seconds from the last time he timed me four weeks ago. I'm finally getting to see some hard work pay off - it's been tough, wondering if I'm working on the right things or whether I've been spinning my wheels. I'm very, very happy to see some improvement.

[nancytris]

Jiminos == thanks for the invite for coffee -- if I am planning to be in your area sometime I will email and take you up on your offer.:coffee:

[Julie Roddin]

Julie never fear. I and my amazing 50 fly and 100IM will be on hand at Zones to make you feel much better. OMG is all I can say about my IM and fly! I sometimes feel I'm not awake on my first event if it's early...I think I need to be a little more vigourous in the warm up...

I think I have the opposite problem because I was so wound up this morning that my hands were shaking before the 500. Maybe I should back off on the coffee before meets. I always have the same amount every day, but I guess I could have less before meets. It never seems to be a problem before morning swim practice. Strange.

Last year at Zones, I swam the 1650 on Friday night and went out WAY too fast. I think my first 500 was 5:44, way faster than this morning! But once I got that event over with, I just felt better. We did a lot of relays on Sat/Sun so that helped a lot with calming me down for the individual events. I'll have to recruit some teammates to swim in the meet and we'll put some relays together.

Can't wait to meet you at zones!!!!

[aquaFeisty]

Peter,

Way WAY cool thread! Congrats to everyone on their achievements!

Ensignada, dropping 5 seconds in a 50 free is fantastic, no matter what time you're starting from. Yay for you!!

:D

Julie, I have big problems with my first event too. Particularly if it is a 50 (tend to spin spin spin). But my 100 IM had some serious issues today, too, with choking on water while trying to make my fly go faster than it should. It does seem to help if I do some 12 1/2 yd sprints from the blocks at the end of warmup. Alas, skipped the sprints today!

[Julie Roddin]

It does seem to help if I do some 12 1/2 yd sprints from the blocks at the end of warmup. Alas, skipped the sprints today!

Funny because I had a whole debate with myself during warm up about doing sprints from the blocks today. I did only one and I didn't even sprint.

I wish I had done a 50 first rather than suffering through the 500 as my first event. I honestly thought about just getting out after the 200 but then yelled at myself for wanting to be a quitter.

I'm glad I have one more meet before zones to work this all out.

[SwimStud]

My daughter's swim teacher timed me again for 50 free. I dropped 5 seconds from the last time he timed me four weeks ago. I'm finally getting to see some hard work pay off - it's been tough, wondering if I'm working on the right things or whether I've been spinning my wheels. I'm very, very happy to see some improvement.

Attagirl Barb...

[SwimStud]

I think I have the opposite problem because I was so wound up this morning that my hands were shaking before the 500. Maybe I should back off on the coffee before meets. I always have the same amount every day, but I guess I could have less before meets. It never seems to be a problem before morning swim practice. Strange.

Can't wait to meet you at zones!!!!

Yeah I guess I am too calm...and thus start slow. I normally get "the doubts" about 2 or 3 days before the event. Once it's showtime though I just sem to get on with it...just a tad too laid back perhaps.

Ditto on meeting you and a bunch of others :D

[Peter Cruise]

Good work, all. My first race usually stinks and if it is a multiiple day event, I get better as it goes on. It probably is linked (hauling out one of my fave phrases) to the fact that I loathe, abhor and detest warm-ups at meets. The bigger the meet, the more people and the EARLIER in the morning you're expected to jump into cold water admidst all these people churning away like they're at Olympic Trials while I feel dozy, slow and a varying amount of not-so-damned-slim-as-these-aquatic-greyhounds. Hence I usually get out quick and put on seven layers of sweatsuits and fret over the heat sheets.

Oh goodness, what an uncalled-for diatribe...perhaps someone can relate...

I'm a little bit wired, Friday I found out I have three separate job interviews next week after 4 months of no nibbles and yes, any of the 3 would do, so I suppose that's my positive thing to report, not exactly swim related, but believe me, if things work out, very swim related personally. Don't ask about them, I'll let everyone know if and when...

[poolraat]

Instead of an attaboy this is the opposite:

I did a triathlon swim yesterday. This a sprint event that I have done every year since they started it 4 years ago. I swim (750y) with a team of 50 somethings like myself. We always do good for old guys, 2nd in the team division yesterday, but each year my swim time has become slower by about 10 sec. It's a pool swim done in heats and I led my heat for about 400 then I got passed (by a 19yo) and I just let her go. Made no effort to try to stay with her but instead just resigned myself to 2nd. That's not happened before. I guess the bad thing is that I finished knowing I could have swam faster but didn't.

[jiminos]

why is it the opposite? it seems to me one should be recognized for knowing there are limits.... resigning one's self to second behind somebody 30 years younger is bad how???? particularly after conceding your time increases by 10 seconds or so each year... do you suppose her times are dropping or increasing?....

i say attaboy for doing that which many do not.... trying.

be,
jim

[SwimStud]

Floyd

there are probably a bunch of reasons...maybe today just wasn't your day. The resigning may have been a subconcious way of your mind listening to somehing in your body not being 100% and telling you to ease up and not go nuts with just a few weeks until the big events.

Don't be down on yourself.

Rich

[poolraat]

I know you guys are right, but still....I hate to lose! Don't you?

[SwimStud]

I know you guys are right, but still....I hate to lose! Don't you?
Be philosophical:
You were 2nd to a 19 year old who would probably have had a bit left in the tank to break away again from you if you had pushed it.
Now if you chased you may have stressed or strained yourself to a point that could have led to injury. I'm not distance swimmer so I don't know exactly how you can approach it.

Withthat in mind I say kudos you came 2nd and to someone a few years younger than you...there is no shame there Floyd. You can't win them all...and sometimes backing off on a small victory will leave you in position for a big win.

[jiminos]

I know you guys are right, but still....I hate to lose! Don't you?

having never competed in swimming and having competed hundreds of times in running and never won.... i have to say.... all i've ever done is win.

must be a perspective thing.... i won because i was there, not because i was first or 400th across the line. you win when you beat the demon that says, "you can't do it."

be,

jim

[SwimStud]

I know you guys are right, but still....I hate to lose! Don't you?

2nd to a 19yr old isn't losing Floyd.

Besides...letting this one go may have prevented an injury if you had strained yourself.
Save the gut busters for Nats...or Zones...wherever your Olympics may be.

[Peter Cruise]

So you're human, on any given day, anyone can lose, even Tiger Woods. If you are really perplexed about it and cannot isolate a pacing, conditioning or technique issue, consider the possibility that, deep down, you may just be bored with this event.

[poolraat]

So you're human, on any given day, anyone can lose, even Tiger Woods. If you are really perplexed about it and cannot isolate a pacing, conditioning or technique issue, consider the possibility that, deep down, you may just be bored with this event.

Good point. I guess what's bothering me is that I didn't even try. Where is that " killer instinct" that use to be there when I raced? I was in a "comfort zone" and wasn't willing to push past it. But enough of that. It's past now. Forget about it and look ahead to the next one.
It will be a bit shorter...by about 650y.:banana:

[The Fortress]

Ok, here goes....

I did a meet today, only signed up last Wednesday. It started off awful...18 seconds slower in the 500 than at zones last year and ended up at 5:58. I went 5:50 in practice a few weeks ago. Shook it off, got a good warm down and then went into 100 back feeling much more relaxed. I took .8 seconds off my best time in masters. I was thrilled! Had a long break and then the 200 IM...just had nothing, I tried to swim fast, but couldn't even push myself to go faster. Got out of the pool, moved from lane 6 over to lane 3, watched the three heats of 50 breast and then back up on the blocks for my once in a lifetime 200 fly. Could barely get my arms out of the water for the last 25, but did it legally and actually think I may do it again someday.

Despite all the time I added to my 500, I'm not worried about zones. I think with taper, rest, etc. I will be faster than last year. It was good to do this meet because I needed a kick in the butt to focus more during my workouts. I'm excited about my 100 back and think that my college PR is somewhere in my future, but maybe not this year. Still, I'm excited for the Albatross Open in three weeks and then Zones in April.

Does anyone else have trouble with their first event of the meet? This is becoming a chronic problem that I have had for the last two years. I am always so wound up before the first event and do really bad, then am able to regroup and follow it up with good swims.

Julie:

Way to go! Those are a tough bunch of events for a short meet. I can't believe you got so little rest between the 2-IM and the 2-Fly. You are much braver than me. Great job on the 100 back! I have a feeling I will get outtouched again this year in that at Albatross -- or worse. I'm hoping to see you this Thursday. Eye infection all better. Great job!

[FlyQueen]

Ok, here goes....


Does anyone else have trouble with their first event of the meet? This is becoming a chronic problem that I have had for the last two years. I am always so wound up before the first event and do really bad, then am able to regroup and follow it up with good swims.


Julie


Julie, normally I swim really well in my first event. In yesterday's meet however, I improved as I went along. I have convinced myself and my teammates that the first event for me (the 100 fly) didn't actually take place, they just skipped right over it. Ande would just die if he saw my splits, I was never relaxed and knew I was in trouble after the first oh ... 10 yards. :frustrated: I tried to calm down and relax and stretch my stroke out, but to no avail ... the worst 100 fly I have ever swum in terms of feel and maybe even the worst race, certainly my worst race in masters ...:dedhorse:

I ended the meet with a PR in the 100 free though so go figure ... :dunno:

Perhaps you didn't warm up quite enough?

[Julie Roddin]

Julie: Way to go! Those are a tough bunch of events for a short meet. I can't believe you got so little rest between the 2-IM and the 2-Fly. You are much braver than me. Great job on the 100 back! I have a feeling I will get outtouched again this year in that at Albatross -- or worse. I'm hoping to see you this Thursday. Eye infection all better. Great job!

Yeah, having less than 5 minuted in between 200 IM and 200 fly is not good. I was still breathing pretty heavy when I got up on the blocks for the 200 fly. I almost started doing breaststroke kick towards the end, which I had no idea was legal until I was telling Wally at practice tonight about my 200 fly. If only I had known!!! The 100 back was awesome...such a good feeling. Only 6 more seconds to break a minute :applaud:

I had a great workout tonight and was coming in on 1:05-1:07 for a set of 10 x 100 free. If only I could have done that YESTERDAY during my 500 free. Oh well, it was good to do some races and remember what it feel like to push yourself in a race.

See you at the pool! I'll be there Thursday. Are you definitely doing Albatross? Anyone else on the board doing Albatross besides Muppet? SwimmieAvsFan maybe?

[Allen Stark]

I have generally had problems with my first event of a meet,espcially if it is a early AM event.One thing I have found that helps me is to take extra time with warmup and make sure I do a little sprinting in warmup.If I had a 500 for my first event though I'd skip warmup,swim the 500 for my warmup and then get ready for the meet. If I swam a hard 500 for my first event it would be my last event of the day.:help:

[FlyQueen]

I have generally had problems with my first event of a meet,espcially if it is a early AM event.One thing I have found that helps me is to take extra time with warmup and make sure I do a little sprinting in warmup.If I had a 500 for my first event though I'd skip warmup,swim the 500 for my warmup and then get ready for the meet. If I swam a hard 500 for my first event it would be my last event of the day.:help:


:rofl: :rofl: I laugh because I agree ... I did the 500 once two years ago and acutally did use it as a warm-up (I might have done a 100 first to get a feel for the walls and water temp)

BLECH! Too long ...

[newmastersswimmer]

Julie ...You are an animal!! I wouldn't have even been able to finish that 200 fly legaly with such short rest after a 200 IM!...and it was your first 200 fly ever at that! I am not worthy :bow: :bow: ....How can you swim so many tough events in a one day meet anyway! You must be tougher than nails! Note to self:....Never ever cross Julie on the discussion boards! Good Luck at Zones Julie!! You will swim an awesome 500 at zones ....I promise!!

Newmastersswimmer

[Julie Roddin]

...and it was your first 200 fly ever at that!

Actually I did swim the 200 fly a few times in college, but it definitely wasn't my best event. We had this one meet in mid-November where all of the freshman had to swim every event (200 BK, 200 BR, 200 Fly, 200 IM, 400 IM, 500 free, 1650 free) and it was a prelims/finals meet so unfortunately some of us, myself included, had to swim every event twice and coach wouldn't let us scratch anything. Fortunately the 1650 was in the middle of the day and only swum once. The 800 free relay was the last event and after we swam it at finals, we all were so exhausted that we could barely make it through dinner without falling asleep. It was torture, but definitely built some mental toughness.

[newmastersswimmer]

Actually I did swim the 200 fly a few times in college, but it definitely wasn't my best event. We had this one meet in mid-November where all of the freshman had to swim every event (200 BK, 200 BR, 200 Fly, 200 IM, 400 IM, 500 free, 1650 free) and it was a prelims/finals meet so unfortunately some of us, myself included, had to swim every event twice and coach wouldn't let us scratch anything. Fortunately the 1650 was in the middle of the day and only swum once. The 800 free relay was the last event and after we swam it at finals, we all were so exhausted that we could barely make it through dinner without falling asleep. It was torture, but definitely built some mental toughness.


Your College coach sounds pretty scarey Julie.....but maybe thats why your so tough as a Master's swimmer?....When you compare Master's meets to what you've already been thru in college, I can see how you might think almost anything seems doable compared to that! I had a really tough agegroup coach growing up that had us doing some pretty insane sets and yardage.....I just try to block it out of my mind now....LOL!!

Newmastersswimmer

[newmastersswimmer]

O.k. Maybe this qualifies me for a semi-attaboy (although its not much....but maybe its a start)? I went to my first spin class tonight in over a year and I didn't do that bad.....I actually made it through the entire 45 minutes without stopping....and then I stayed after the spin class to do both the ab workout that followed as welll as the free-weight workout after that....then I swam for about 30-40 minutes to stretch out my stroke. I wieghed myself afterwards and it turns out that I am about 5 - 10 pounds lighter than what I expected to see. I am hoping to get back into the spin class thing more regularly now. The new thread on spin classes got me to thinking about how the spin classes probably had as much to do with my weight loss a couple of years back as the swimming did. Anyway, I hope it works for me again?....Wish me luck!

Newmastersswimmer

[The Fortress]

O.k. Maybe this qualifies me for a semi-attaboy (although its not much....but maybe its a start)? I went to my first spin class tonight in over a year and I didn't do that bad.....I actually made it through the entire 45 minutes without stopping....and then I stayed after the spin class to do both the ab workout that followed as welll as the free-weight workout after that....then I swam for about 30-40 minutes to stretch out my stroke. I wieghed myself afterwards and it turns out that I am about 5 - 10 pounds lighter than what I expected to see. I am hoping to get back into the spin class thing more regularly now. The new thread on spin classes got me to thinking about how the spin classes probably had as much to do with my weight loss a couple of years back as the swimming did. Anyway, I hope it works for me again?....Wish me luck!

Newmastersswimmer

Definitely qualifies as an attaboy! Great job! Great day of workouts!

I have been thinking the same thing about spinning. That I should do more of it to supplement the swimming since I can't swim 24/7. Or run 24/7. Tomorrow, I'm going to lift, bike, swim. Same as you.

Julie:

I sent in my form for Albatross. It's in the afternoon, unlike Chinn, so it's safe to say I will show up. Don't know how I'll do. We'll see. I only entered three events because I hate the order of events and I'm not doing no 200 fly. :thhbbb: You and William and maybe Muppet can have fun with that. Maybe you should advance to the 200 back?

[Got Boost]

For me a small attaboy, my first work out since I started swimming again over 3000 meters, and I am not praying for death like I thought i would be.;)
Gor Boost

[Slowswim]

Okay, y'all have convinced me to go back to spinning class. I did it years ago, but could stay with it due to my work schedule.

I going to start next Wednesday (I'm in taper for a race this weekend). I plan to still swim my part of my workout (approx 1500m) immediately prior. Is that too much? I want to keep my Mon-Wed-Fri swim and Tue-Thur run schedule and just add the spinning on top.

[Julie Roddin]

Julie: I sent in my form for Albatross. It's in the afternoon, unlike Chinn, so it's safe to say I will show up. Don't know how I'll do. We'll see. I only entered three events because I hate the order of events and I'm not doing no 200 fly. :thhbbb: You and William and maybe Muppet can have fun with that. Maybe you should advance to the 200 back?

Ok, I lied. I'm swimming the backstroke events and not the 200 breast or 200 fly.

200 back - 100 back - 100 IM - 400 IM

400 IM should be interesting! Is anyone going to the post-meet social? I didn't even see that on the registration form until the other day.

[islandsox]

O.k. Maybe this qualifies me for a semi-attaboy (although its not much....but maybe its a start)? I went to my first spin class tonight in over a year and I didn't do that bad.....I actually made it through the entire 45 minutes without stopping....and then I stayed after the spin class to do both the ab workout that followed as welll as the free-weight workout after that....then I swam for about 30-40 minutes to stretch out my stroke. I wieghed myself afterwards and it turns out that I am about 5 - 10 pounds lighter than what I expected to see. I am hoping to get back into the spin class thing more regularly now. The new thread on spin classes got me to thinking about how the spin classes probably had as much to do with my weight loss a couple of years back as the swimming did. Anyway, I hope it works for me again?....Wish me luck!

Newmastersswimmer

I say congratulations on adding a spin class to your workout routine. Oh, sorry, ATTABOY.

I have nothing to ATTAGIRL about as yet, my 350 yd fly challenge training doesn't start until next Monday, the 19th.

[Julie Roddin]

I have nothing to ATTAGIRL about as yet, my 350 yd fly challenge training doesn't start until next Monday, the 19th.

You are officially a STUD!!! 350 fly?!?!?

[SwimStud]

You are officially a STUD!!! 350 fly?!?!?

I think we need to keep Stud for the guys

Studmuffin can be for the ladies.
Donna is a Studmuffin


lol

[Julie Roddin]

I think we need to keep Stud for the guys Studmuffin can be for the ladies.
Donna is a Studmuffin
lol

Fair enough. Just don't call me an Iron-Woman, people try to do that all the time. Ironman is just fine with me ;) Iron-Girl is even ok, but Iron-Woman just sounds strange to me.

Ok, off to the pool to practice fly so that I can keep up with Donna and try to be as Studmuffinly as her.

[newmastersswimmer]

For me a small attaboy, my first work out since I started swimming again over 3000 meters, and I am not praying for death like I thought i would be.;)
Gor Boost

It qualifies Got Boost! Attaboy Got Boost! And thanks to all who gave me an attaboy for my good workout yesterday!

Newmastersswimmer

[SwimStud]

More of a mental accomplishment tonight.
Been doing the 0-1650 free in 6 weeks thing, which felt really difficult the first 2 weeks for some odd reason. I completed week 4 last Friday and tonight I just did 1800 straight, 2 weeks ahead of schedule. Not that major but I've never consciously done a mile of Front Crawl straight so it was a mental victory.
:drink:

[ensignada]

Congrats Rich. And I agree, the first couple of weeks were the hardest.

[nancytris]

WAY TO GO RICH! And why would that not be a big deal??? I think it's way big.:applaud: :groovy: :banana: :woot:

[jsmwbnc]

swimstud, congrats bigtime on swimming 1800 yds. straight. thats 1 full mile plus 40 yards. i remember the 1st time i swam a mile non stop, i couldn't lift my arms the next day

[SwimStud]

Thanks Guys...

[swim4me]

Great Job Stud! Your doing great without a coach. Imagine how Studly you will be when you get one!!!!!!!

[jiminos]

congrats, SS!

be,

jim

[Peter Cruise]

Perhaps coaches will be lined up at your door, Rich. Good effort.

[SwimStud]

Perhaps coaches will be lined up at your door, Rich. Good effort.

LOL Well if they're willing to work for food :)

Thanks Peter. i'm expecting to here a similar report from, my training partner, ~Wren~, shortly...c'mon ~Wren~ hit that pool!

[poolraat]

I'll work for :drink: .

LOL Well if they're willing to work for food :)

Thanks Peter. i'm expecting to here a similar report from, my training partner, ~Wren~, shortly...c'mon ~Wren~ hit that pool!

[swimr4life]

More of a mental accomplishment tonight.
Been doing the 0-1650 free in 6 weeks thing, which felt really difficult the first 2 weeks for some odd reason. I completed week 4 last Friday and tonight I just did 1800 straight, 2 weeks ahead of schedule. Not that major but I've never consciously done a mile of Front Crawl straight so it was a mental victory.
:drink:

Attaboy Rich!!! That's a huge accomplishment. Keep up the good work.

I'm excited and very proud of my accomplishment today! After being out of the water for 2 and a half months due to shoulder/neck/back problems, my daughter's surgery and my mom's fall, I've been back in the water for 4 weeks now!! I go every other day....not ready to push my luck going every day yet!

Today I actually did 3500yards! That's the most I've done since November!:banana: I'm exhausted but satisfied! We did a tough set...
100 fast for time on 1:30
100 easy on 3:00
200 fast for time on 3:00
200 easy on 4:30
300 fast for time on 4:30
300 easy on 6:00
400 fast for time on 6:00
400 easy
We got lots of rest but that last 400 was tough for me....I'm a sprinter and I'm out of shape! I'm working on it though!

I'm swimming in a meet next weekend!! The thing that I'M SOO EXCITED ABOUT is that my 18 year old daughter is going to swim the meet with me!!!! I CAN'T WAIT! I've waited for this day to come and hoped she would want to compete in Masters when she got old enough! It is going to be GREAT! :D

[SwimStud]

I'm swimming in a meet next weekend!! The thing that I'M SOO EXCITED ABOUT is that my 18 year old daughter is going to swim the meet with me!!!! I CAN'T WAIT! I've waited for thius day to come and hoped she would want to compete in Masters when she got old enough! It is going to be GREAT! :D

Great Beth..good to hear you chirping happily :)

As for competing with your daughter...No Mercy...kick her a$$! :joker: :joker:

[swimr4life]

Great Beth..good to hear you chirping happily :)

As for competing with your daughter...No Mercy...kick her a$$! :joker: :joker:

It's kind of good that she is a breaststroker.....and I'm a wannabe breaststroker! She will beat me in breaststroke. I can usually beat her in free and IM though:thhbbb: ...BUT I've been out of the water a lot so.... who knows what will happen.

It will be so much fun! I can't wait!:groovy:

[poolraat]

This is really great. I hope you and your daughter have a lot of fun. I have swam time trials with my daughter (the 16yo) just so we could race each other and it's always been a blast.


It's kind of good that she is a breaststroker.....and I'm a wannabe breaststroker! She will beat me in breaststroke. I can usually beat her in free and IM though:thhbbb: ...BUT I've been out of the water a lot so.... who knows what will happen.

It will be so much fun! I can't wait!:groovy:

[The Fortress]

Attaboy Rich!!! That's a huge accomplishment. Keep up the good work.

I'm excited and very proud of my accomplishment today! After being out of the water for 2 and a half months due to shoulder/neck/back problems, my daughter's surgery and my mom's fall, I've been back in the water for 4 weeks now!! I go every other day....not ready to push my luck going every day yet!

Today I actually did 3500yards! That's the most I've done since November!:banana: I'm exhausted but satisfied! We did a tough set...
100 fast for time on 1:30
100 easy on 3:00
200 fast for time on 3:00
200 easy on 4:30
300 fast for time on 4:30
300 easy on 6:00
400 fast for time on 6:00
400 easy
We got lots of rest but that last 400 was tough for me....I'm a sprinter and I'm out of shape! I'm working on it though!

I'm swimming in a meet next weekend!! The thing that I'M SOO EXCITED ABOUT is that my 18 year old daughter is going to swim the meet with me!!!! I CAN'T WAIT! I've waited for thius day to come and hoped she would want to compete in Masters when she got old enough! It is going to be GREAT! :D

Yay FAF Twin! 4 weeks back is awesome. :groovy:

I'm glad to know you're still faithfully doing all those super boring RC exercises. Me too. Need to do them today... Be sure to report back on your meet! What events are you swimming? How cool that you get to swim with your daughter. That is pretty neat! I can't beat my daughter in breaststroke either. It's quite a mystery how us non-breaststroke sprinters produced breaststrokers ...

That workout looked tough! I'm not fond of timed 400s. So attagirl!!!:banana:

I'm back in the water after a week off for a eye infection. Came back easy. Finally went to a team practice last night for the first time in awhile. Did a rocking main sprint set last night that you would have liked:

4 x (8 x 50, 2 of each stroke)
First round: 2 fast fly, rest perfect technique
Second round: 2 fast back, rest perfect technique
Third round: 2 fast breast, rest perfect technique
Fourth round: 2 fast free, rest perfect technique

Between each round, a 100 free for time and then a 50 EZ. I'm still a little paranoid and swimming with fins b/c of the broken down wore out left shoulder, but I did a :56 on one of the 100 frees push off and basically made it through the workout -- even though my legs were really, really sore from going to a spinning class. Yes, I tried it! It was fun. Going to lift weights today to keep the shoulder together. Going in for my first prolo session on Monday. I don't like shots all that much, but I'm hopeful it will help.

Keep at it! Let us know how the meet goes! Love, your twin

[swimr4life]

Yay FAF Twin! 4 weeks back is awesome. :groovy:

I'm glad to know you're still faithfully doing all those super boring RC exercises. Me too. Need to do them today... Be sure to report back on your meet! What events are you swimming? How cool that you get to swim with your daughter. That is pretty neat! I can't beat my daughter in breaststroke either. It's quite a mystery how us non-breaststroke sprinters produced breaststrokers ...

That workout looked tough! I'm not fond of timed 400s. So attagirl!!!:banana:

I'm back in the water after a week off for a eye infection. Came back easy. Finally went to a team practice last night for the first time in awhile. Did a rocking main sprint set last night that you would have liked:

4 x (8 x 50, 2 of each stroke)
First round: 2 fast fly, rest perfect technique
Second round: 2 fast back, rest perfect technique
Third round: 2 fast breast, rest perfect technique
Fourth round: 2 fast free, rest perfect technique

Between each round, a 100 free for time and then a 50 EZ. I'm still a little paranoid and swimming with fins b/c of the broken down wore out left shoulder, but I did a :56 on one of the 100 frees push off and basically made it through the workout -- even though my legs were really, really sore from going to a spinning class. Yes, I tried it! It was fun. Going to lift weights today to keep the shoulder together. Going in for my first prolo session on Monday. I don't like shots all that much, but I'm hopeful it will help.

Keep at it! Let us know how the meet goes! Love, your twin


That's my kind of workout! You're right. I would have loved that set. I might have to steal that one. :notworthy:
You and Ande have motivated me to try the spin class. I hope to do it next week... (early in the week since I'm swimming a meet next weekend!) I'll let you know.

What is prolotherapy? I've never heard of it.

:56 on your 100!!! YOU GO GIRL!:banana: :notworthy:

[Slowswim]

I'm excited and very proud of my accomplishment today! After being out of the water for 2 and a half months due to shoulder/neck/back problems, my daughter's surgery and my mom's fall, I've been back in the water for 4 weeks now!! I go every other day....not ready to push my luck going every day yet!

Today I actually did 3500yards! That's the most I've done since November!:banana: I'm exhausted but satisfied! We did a tough set...
100 fast for time on 1:30
100 easy on 3:00
200 fast for time on 3:00
200 easy on 4:30
300 fast for time on 4:30
300 easy on 6:00
400 fast for time on 6:00
400 easy
We got lots of rest but that last 400 was tough for me....I'm a sprinter and I'm out of shape! I'm working on it though!



I am confused. I'm new to Masters swimming and am slow (1:32 is my 100m Free). I don't even really know the other strokes (I do breast and Back but no recognizably and haven't even attempted Fly).

I swim 2500-3200m 3 times a week; swam 1.2 miles OW last spring, and have 1500m OW coming in May. Never swam a pool meet.

What constitutes a lot of meters? Morgan was talking (in another thread) of swimming my monthly mileage in a week.

My workout yesterday was:

3x200m S/P/K EZ

15 x 100M on 2:15

8 x 50m Kick on 1:00

3 x 200 K/P/S EZ

3100M and I thought that was easy. Is my coach leading my astray or for me to swim 1500m - 1.2miles I need this?:dunno:


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[The Fortress]

That's my kind of workout! You're right. I would have loved that set. I might have to steal that one. :notworthy:
You and Ande have motivated me to try the spin class. I hope to do it next week... (early in the week since I'm swimming a meet next weekend!) I'll let you know.

What is prolotherapy? I've never heard of it.

:56 on your 100!!! YOU GO GIRL!:banana: :notworthy:

Thanks. I did 1:01 on my 100 back too and a 1:00 the other day. Pretty happy. It was a great set. Julie (see above) pushed me along even though she is not a big fin cheater like me.

I probably won't describe it very well, but prolotherapy is a non-surgical option for treating deterioration or micro-tears in the tendons and cartilege. You get injected with sugar, pain meds and other stuff into the affected area. (The doc needs an arthrogram to see where to make the injections, which is why I got one.) The injection causes an inflammatory effect, which is supposed to create a cascade of healing and begin depositing new collagen on the effected or wored out old area. You can't take any anti-inflammatories while getting the treatment. You need a series of 4-6 sets of injections between 2-4 weeks apart. Then, you wait. It takes about 6 months to get the full results. But it essentially regrows damaged or dessicated cartilege. Apparently, people like me are prime candidates for prolotherapy. A lot of elite athletes use it because PT often doesn't work for them (PT is better for beginners or post-surgical conditions or folks with muscle imbalances or tendonitis).

Since I do PT homecare and my condition isn't surgical, this is about my only option to escape the shoulder pain. So I'm gonna give it a whirl. I know a couple other people that have done it with good results. So we'll see. It will also help prevent early arthritis, which apparently people like us with worn out shoulder issues are prone too. :eek: So I am declaring war on my "abnormal labrum." We'll see who's the winner. I'm not sure it knows how stubborn I am. :wiggle:

No swimming today or maybe just a bit of easy swimming later tonight. I'm like you. Every other day seems to work best. Or if I go back to back, one has got to be easy.

Hey, I'm doing a meet on March 25. So we can compare notes. Compare shoulders too. Good luck. Attagirl! :applaud: Have a great weekend with all your fab plans! ;)

Bill:

There are a couple threads you could look at about yardage. I think they're called "How much volume?" "How much endurance training?" "Is 1500-2000 yards enough volume?" (last one started by RTodd). Something like that. At least that's where the topic of yardage has been recently discussed. Some discussion in the "muscular endurance" thread too, I think.

[swimr4life]

I am confused. I'm new to Masters swimming and am slow (1:32 is my 100m Free). I don't even really know the other strokes (I do breast and Back but no recognizably and haven't even attempted Fly).

I swim 2500-3200m 3 times a week; swam 1.2 miles OW last spring, and have 1500m OW coming in May. Never swam a pool meet.

What constitutes a lot of meters? Morgan was talking (in another thread) of swimming my monthly mileage in a week.

My workout yesterday was:

3x200m S/P/K EZ

15 x 100M on 2:15

8 x 50m Kick on 1:00

3 x 200 K/P/S EZ

3100M and I thought that was easy. Is my coach leading my astray or for me to swim 1500m - 1.2miles I need this?:dunno:


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Slowswim,
It all depends on your goals as to what is enough yardage. I'm a sprinter and don't compete in any event over 200 yards. My specialty is the 50 and the 100. My motto is quality not quantity. The yardage doesn't matter as much as the intensity of your workout. We usually do a long warm-up (about 1000 yds) followed by an intense set of about 1500-2000 yards, and then a swim down (about 200-400 yds) That's what works for me. If I do more than that, I tend to hurt my shoulders. Everybody is different though and you have to experiment and find what works for you.

[poolraat]

Those are some pretty good times, even with fins. Today's workout included 4 sets of 200 kick/drill, timed 100 from a push, easy 100. Went 1:06-1:08-1:08-1:05, no fins. The last one hurt! I'm a comfort swimmer, don't like hurt.

Thanks. I did 1:01 on my 100 back too and a 1:00 the other day. Pretty happy. It was a great set. Julie (see above) pushed me along even thought she was not a big fin cheater like me.

I probably won't describe it very well, but prolotherapy is a non-surgical option for treating deterioration or micro-tears in the tendons and cartilege. You get injected with sugar, pain meds and other stuff into the affected area. The injection causes an inflammatory effect, which is supposed to create a cascade of healing and begin depositing new collagen on the effected or wored out old area. You can't take any anti-inflammatories while getting the treatment. You need a series of 4-6 sets of injections between 2-4 weeks apart. Then, you wait. It takes about 6 months to get the full results. But it essentially regrows damaged or dessicated cartilege. Apparently, people like me are prime candidates for prolotherapy. A lot of elite athletes use it because PT often doesn't work for them (PT is better for beginners or post-surgical conditions or folks with muscle imbalances or tendonitis).

Since I do PT homecare and my condition isn't surgical, this is about my only option to escape the shoulder pain. So I'm gonna give it a whirl. I know a couple other people that have done it with good results. So we'll see. It will also help prevent early arthritis, which apparently people like us with worn out shoulder issues are prone too. :eek: So I am declaring war on my "abnormal labrum." We'll see who's the winner. I'm not sure it knows how stubborn I am. :wiggle:

No swimming today or maybe just a bit of easy swimming later tonight. I'm like you. Every other day seems to work best. Or if I go back to back, one has got to be easy.

Hey, I'm doing a meet on March 25. So we can compare notes. Compare shoulders too. Good luck. Attagirl! :applaud: Have a great weekend with all your fab plans! ;)

[aquaFeisty]

Beth,

Congratulations on 4 straight weeks back in the water! Going every other day is great!

I hope you have lots of fun with your daughter at the meet this weekend. I got to compete with my mom at some meets in 97-99 before my husband and I moved to IL. We even all went to LCNats together in 98. It was a BLAST!!! The most fun I've ever had at a swim meet. My mom hadn't swam since 1965 or 66, I think. I was soooo proud of my her!

My parents are retiring out here from the east coast later this year. Can't wait to swim some relays with my mom again!!!

Carrie

[Slowswim]

Slowswim,
It all depends on your goals as to what is enough yardage. I'm a sprinter and don't compete in any event over 200 yards. My specialty is the 50 and the 100. My motto is quality not quantity. The yardage doesn't matter as much as the intensity of your workout. We usually do a long warm-up (about 1000 yds) followed by an intense set of about 1500-2000 yards, and then a swim down (about 200-400 yds) That's what works for me. If I do more than that, I tend to hurt my shoulders. Everybody is different though and you have to experiment and find what works for you.


So I'm not really swimming a lot of yards get fewer warm-up EZ yards. The shortest swim I'd probably ever do is 400m. The most common is 800m. So I guess my workouts are good.

Of course I'll never develop your blinding speed:bow: , but all that would do for me is ensure I was waaay up front when I bonked and drown.

Thanx,
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[Peter Cruise]

Beth- such a wonderful outcome to a tumultuous period. You're both shining examples of persevering as a mandate to success. Way to go, both of you!

Leslie- you are one tough bugger (used affectionately) aren't you? Please be careful not to make your injury(ies) worse though, we don't want the ogre rampaging and pillaging again, do we?

[imspoiled]

Attaboy to all of you! This is the kind of thread that made me join the forum. So many people sharing their accomplishments (and some frustrations) with poeple who understand what we put our bodies through every practice, and every meet. Seeing so much positive reinforcement is fantastic! :applaud: ATTABOY forum folks (FF?)!


Now to brag a little to people who understand... I signed up to swim the "Sprint Pentathalon" at our meet last Sunday. My goal was to swim a few NQTs and consider making the trip out to Federal Way in May. Thought if I had a few PB swims, I could qualify in two events (50 free & 50 back, 50 fly a long-shot). I wound up having PB swims in ALL my events, and swam NQTs in 4 of 5! :banana:

Dropped a combined total of roughly 7 seconds from my total pentathalon last year, including 3 seconds from my 100 IM (and I had the WORST back to breast transition turn EVER!:( ). I missed the NQT in the 50 fly by only .02 seconds, but the swim felt good.

When I got home, my husband says, "I guess that's good, huh?" We've been married 16 years and I've never swam this fast--EVER-- and the best he can do is "I guess that's good?"

Thank you all for being here to support other swimmers. It feels great just to have a place to talk to people who get it!

Dana

[SwimStud]

Awesome work Dana! Good luck at Nats!

[The Fortress]

Beth- such a wonderful outcome to a tumultuous period. You're both shing examples of persevering as a mandate to success. Way to go, both of you!

Leslie- you are one tough bugger (used affectionately) aren't you? Please be careful not to make your injury(ies) worse though, we don't want the ogre rampaging and pillaging again, do we?

I am one tough bugger! :banana: I'm trying to be careful. I'm staying away from too much free and fly (:( ) and using those cheater fins to take some pressure off the shoulder. Just kicking tonight. I'm sure there will some recurrence of ogre-ing. I'll make sure to take it out on you! :lolup:

Dana:

Way to go! I got one of those non-swimmer hubbies too. Non-swimmers just don't really get it. Although he could have said "attagirl." But you did fabulous!! I'd love to do a sprint pentathlon. Betcha do even better at Federal Way! Maybe I'll meet you at Colonies Zones. I'll be staggering in with my shoulder in a wheel barrow just to piss off Cruise and duel my secret nemesis.

[Peter Cruise]

Dana- way to perform in the crunch! People who are not involved in a sport like ours find it hard to appreciate how little bits of time difference can make such a huge impact on us. Several times while public swimming I've had this sort of conversation:
"Say, you're pretty good!"
(myself) "Thank you, I work hard at it."
"So how close would you be to that Phelps (or whatever name currently in public eye) character?"
(myself) "Well, if we were doing 100m, which is 4 lengths, I'd probably be almost a whole length behind him."
"I guess you're not so good after all..."
(myself) "I guess not."

[newmastersswimmer]

Dana- way to perform in the crunch! People who are not involved in a sport like ours find it hard to appreciate how little bits of time difference can make such a huge impact on us. Several times while public swimming I've had this sort of conversation:
"Say, you're pretty good!"
(myself) "Thank you, I work hard at it."
"So how close would you be to that Phelps (or whatever name currently in public eye) character?"
(myself) "Well, if we were doing 100m, which is 4 lengths, I'd probably be almost a whole length behind him."
"I guess you're not so good after all..."
(myself) "I guess not."

I have had similar conversations Peter....only I usually slightly embellish the ending a bit perhaps....something more like ....I don't know.... in a 200 Phelps would probably beat me by about a half a body length or so....LOL!! :rofl:

Congrats on your awesome swims in your sprint pentathalon imspoiled! Also Congrats to everyone else here as well! Nice workout swims Fort! Glad to hear you are working out a lot more now Beth! I've done 2 spin classes already this week and I'm doing another one on Saturday....I also plan on getting in a couple of more swims before the weekend is over (somewhere between 1500- 2500 meters each I'm hoping)....I'm starting off kind of slow on the swimming right now (trying to gradually ease my way back into the groove again)....Maybe I will do a few descending 50's in my next swim session as well?

Newmastersswimmer

[jiminos]

nowhere near as impressive as all your posts, but.....

today i swam my mile (non-stop as always), but today for the first time, i used flip turns all the way!!!!! somebody was kind enough to teach me the flip turn at the pool last night.... he left before i could get his name.

thanks to the mystery teacher.

be,

jim

[ensignada]

That's great, Jim. It's especially cool that you were able to learn them that quickly.

[3strokes]

I know you guys are right, but still....I hate to lose! Don't you?

You didn't lose. You didn't come in 2nd.
You're 50, she's 19.
Each of you was in a different race (that happened
to take place in the same pool, or body of water, at
the same time).

I know the feeling though.

At my one meet per year, this past February:
The first result for my age group's 50m Free that was
posted (on a wall), showed me coming in 2nd of two
participants in the 60-64. I consoled myself with the
excuse that I had been suffering from rotator cuff injury
since last July and was only slowly coming back to swimming.

However, a few days later, re-checking those results on
the meet organizer's website, I saw that I had placed 1st
(of six or seven) in that group.

[~Wren~]

LOL Well if they're willing to work for food :)

Thanks Peter. i'm expecting to here a similar report from, my training partner, ~Wren~, shortly...c'mon ~Wren~ hit that pool!

Reporting in . . . I finished Friday night. I also did 1800 instead of 1650. I wanted a real mile too. :)

[SwimStud]

Reporting in . . . I finished Friday night. I also did 1800 instead of 1650. I wanted a real mile too. :)


Attagirl Wren! Did you find it easier after 1000 yards?

[swimr4life]

nowhere near as impressive as all your posts, but.....

today i swam my mile (non-stop as always), but today for the first time, i used flip turns all the way!!!!! somebody was kind enough to teach me the flip turn at the pool last night.... he left before i could get his name.

thanks to the mystery teacher.

be,

jim

Way to go! You are a fast learner!

[swimr4life]

Reporting in . . . I finished Friday night. I also did 1800 instead of 1650. I wanted a real mile too. :)


Way to go Wren! Keep up the good work.

[jiminos]

thank you, everybody... the credit for the flip turns goes to a very young but patient teacher. not all of them were pretty... but all of them were flip turns... with time they will get better.

for me, this is a HUGE accomplishment.

soon i will be ready to take on the BR..... that just looks like it requires sooooo much coordination.... do people drown learning the BR?:shakeshead:

thanks again....

be,

jim

[swimr4life]

Jim,
Some people are natural breaststrokers and some of us have to REALLY work at it. My daughters are in the first category. I, on the other hand, have had to work at it! You might surprise yourself!

[imspoiled]

nowhere near as impressive as all your posts, but.....

today i swam my mile (non-stop as always), but today for the first time, i used flip turns all the way!!!!! somebody was kind enough to teach me the flip turn at the pool last night.... he left before i could get his name.

thanks to the mystery teacher.

be,

jim

Way to go Jim!

In my book that's just as impressive, if not more so. Learning a flip turn is hard, especially for an adult because we tend to lack some of the flexability the kids use to make it look so easy. It's also easy to revert to old habits when we get tired, so using your new skill for the whole swim is quite an accomplishment!

Thanks to everyone for the pat on the back. I can totally relate to the Phelps story, Peter. My kids swim coach is Marie Labosky (who is still a Trials qualifer in the 4-IM), and since I work out with the kids and occasionally swim meets with them, one of the moms says, "I think it would be great if the three of you (Marie, myself, & one of the other coaches) raced each other at the end of practice."

I looked at her like she was nuts and said, "I just swam a 5000 yd practice, and even if I wasn't dead tired, it wouldn't be much of a race. Marie is 10 years younger and an elite swimmer. I swim for Dolphins. It would be like me racing an 8 & under." Mom says, "Oh. I thought it would give the kids something to talk about if you beat her." Sure would, but the only way I'm even close in that race is if she's wearing a drag suit & a tether!

[The Fortress]

Thanks to everyone for tMy kids swim coach is Marie Labosky (who is still a Trials qualifer in the 4-IM), and since I work out with the kids and occasionally swim meets with them, one of the moms says, "I think it would be great if the three of you (Marie, myself, & one of the other coaches) raced each other at the end of practice."

I looked at her like she was nuts and said, "I just swam a 5000 yd practice, and even if I wasn't dead tired, it wouldn't be much of a race. Marie is 10 years younger and an elite swimmer. I swim for Dolphins. It would be like me racing an 8 & under." Mom says, "Oh. I thought it would give the kids something to talk about if you beat her." Sure would, but the only way I'm even close in that race is if she's wearing a drag suit & a tether!


This has happened to me too Dana! People are insane. Except I see you need an "attagirl" cuz you're doing some major engine building swimming with the kiddies and doing 5000+ yards. Keep up the good work!

Jim:

You too, Jim, with those flip turns. Major accomplishment!! Yes, people feel like they are drowning learning breaststroke. Do you really need to learn that one?! :rofl: I guess there are IMs in your future?


I need an attagirl because I just got 30 injections to the shoulder from my prolo guy and it hurts a bit. But he still said I could swim tomorrow!! So I'll be off to the pool with my big fin. Good thing I got in a good workout yesterday. Only bad news is that I have to cut back the competitions a bit and cut back the # events. But that's OK. I can live with it, as long as I can still hit the pool! :banana:

[newmastersswimmer]

This has happened to me too Dana! People are insane. Except I see you need an "attagirl" cuz you're doing some major engine building swimming with the kiddies and doing 5000+ yards. Keep up the good work!

Jim:

You too, Jim, with those flip turns. Major accomplishment!! Yes, people feel like they are drowning learning breaststroke. Do you really need to learn that one?! :rofl: I guess there are IMs in your future?


I need an attagirl because I just got 30 injections to the shoulder from my prolo guy and it hurts a bit. But he still said I could swim tomorrow!! So I'll be off to the pool with my big fin. Good thing I got in a good workout yesterday. Only bad news is that I have to cut back the competitions a bit and cut back the # events. But that's OK. I can live with it, as long as I can still hit the pool! :banana:

Ouch Fort that sounds painful! Attagirl for being so tough.....but what can you expect from a F.A.F. Sista Fiestress like you...LOL! Did your doctor say how long it would be before your shoulder was back to normal again?.....Or when it would be relatively back to normal again? Hang in there fort b/c I'm sure if you do all the things you are suppose to do, that your shoulder will improve....so hopefully this cutting back on your competitions and events at competitions and such will only be a temporary situation? ... (just cut out the 200 fly and you'll be fine...LOL!!)

Newmastersswimmer

[The Fortress]

Ouch Fort that sounds painful! Attagirl for being so tough.....but what can you expect from a F.A.F. Sista Fiestress like you...LOL! Did your doctor say how long it would be before your shoulder was back to normal again?.....Or when it would be relatively back to normal again? Hang in there fort b/c I'm sure if you do all the things you are suppose to do, that your shoulder will improve....so hopefully this cutting back on your competitions and events at competitions and such will only be a temporary situation? ... (just cut out the 200 fly and you'll be fine...LOL!!)
Newmastersswimmer

I can still swim with it, Jim! I've apparently been swimming with an abnormal worn out labrum for 20 months now, as it is a relic from youthful engine building/trauma, which really should have been detected earlier when my shoulder/trap/neck started hurting. That's why I'm worried about my twin with the same symptoms. :(

I can still keep swimming "at my current level." (Just did 4000 yesterday.) I just can't ramp it up or engage in major engine building. Have to be a bit cautious, use fins a lot and rein in my natural tendency to overdo. The doc doesn't mind too much if I compete even, so I'll still go to my meet on March 25 and to Zones in April. I'll just swim fewer events and skip nationals this year. I don't get to all that many meets anyway because of the kidlets. (Maybe only one, two if I'm lucky, this summer.)

If all goes well, I should be much better and maybe pain free by mid-fall after everything gets a chance to regrow and get stronger. Prolo has a pretty high success rate for shoulders. Fingers crossed. I've even heard of people becoming "prolo addicts" and using it to fix everything, knees, ankles, etc. LOL. NOT that I'm ever planning to do a 200 fly like you -- even with a hopefully "new" shoulder. (Don't have to "cut it out" -- I've never swum it as a master, slacker that I am.) So when you get in and do that first 200 fly, you will be deserving of dozens of attaboys!! :bow:

[swimr4life]

I can still swim with it, Jim! I've apparently been swimming with an abnormal worn out labrum for 20 months now, as it is a relic from youthful engine building/trauma, which really should have been detected earlier when my shoulder/trap/neck started hurting. That's why I'm worried about my twin with the same symptoms. :(

I can still keep swimming "at my current level." (Just did 4000 yesterday.) I just can't ramp it up or engage in major engine building. Have to be a bit cautious, use fins a lot and rein in my natural tendency to overdo. The doc doesn't mind if I compete even, so I'll still go to my meet on March 25 and to Zones in April. I'll just swim fewer events and skip nationals this year. I don't get to all that many meets anyway because of the kidlets. (Maybe only one, two if I'm lucky, this summer.)

If all goes well, I should be much better and maybe pain free by mid-fall after everything gets a chance to regrow and get stronger. Prolo has a pretty high success rate for shoulders. Fingers crossed. I've even heard of people becoming "prolo addicts" and using it to fix everything, knees, ankles, etc. LOL. NOT that I'm ever planning to do a 200 fly like you -- even with a hopefully "new" shoulder. (Don't have to "cut it out" -- I've never swum it as a master, slacker that I am.) So when you get in and do that first 200 fly, you will be deserving of dozens of attaboys!! :bow:

I'm so sorry you are having to go through all this! THIRTY injections? OUCH!:shakeshead: This reminds me of the moive "Major Payne". He said, "I know how to take yo mind off that pain!" hee hee. (If you've seen the movie, you know what I'm talking about) Have the injections helped yet? I hope so. I'm just glad you are able to keep swimming. Way to go for toughing it out and doing 4000 yards! :bow: Hang in there and keep us posted.

I swam today and felt pretty good. I actually did fly today!:woot: (I was afraid I would forget how to do it since it had been sooo long!!) My cranky shoulder did fine! I'm SO GLAD! I've been doing an easy, long warm up lately before I do anything hard and it really helps! It takes away from the amount of yardage and engine building I get done but, it beats hurting myself and being out for 2 months!

I have a meet this weekend and I'm so excited! I'm trying not to be nervous and worry about my times. I'm just going to go and do my best and look at this as my starting point to improve from! I can't wait to swim a relay with my 18 year old daughter! This will be her first Masters Meet!! I'm soooo excited!:woot:

[newmastersswimmer]

I'm so sorry you are having to go through all this! THIRTY injections? OUCH!:shakeshead: This reminds me of the moive "Major Payne". He said, "I know how to take yo mind off that pain!" hee hee. (If you've seen the movie, you know what I'm talking about) Have the injections helped yet? I hope so. I'm just glad you are able to keep swimming. Way to go for toughing it out and doing 4000 yards! :bow: Hang in there and keep us posted.

I swam today and felt pretty good. I actually did fly today!:woot: (I was afraid I would forget how to do it since it had been sooo long!!) My cranky shoulder did fine! I'm SO GLAD! I've been doing an easy, long warm up lately before I do anything hard and it really helps! It takes away from the amount of yardage and engine building I get done but, it beats hurting myself and being out for 2 months!

I have a meet this weekend and I'm so excited! I'm trying not to be nervous and worry about my times. I'm just going to go and do my best and look at this as my starting point to improve from! I can't wait to swim a relay with my 18 year old daughter! This will be her first Masters Meet!! I'm soooo excited!:woot:

Good Luck at your meet this weekend Beth!! Sounds pretty exciting with your daughter being on your relay and all! I'm also glad to hear that you've been able to work out fairly consistently as of late.....Are you racing against your daughter in any of your events by chance?....Let us know how it all turns out. Have fun!!

Newmastersswimmer

[Peter Cruise]

Beth, you'll be fine, just concentrate on the experience and the joy of it. By the way, we expect some photos.

Leslie the Living Pincushion! Taking Tough Bugger designation to new heights. No wonder some people can't understand our sport. When you're 'not overdoing it', try to think of the rest of us as some ominous Greek chorus harping at you from the deck 'Slow d-o-o-w-w-n!' 'Doom lies with shortened stroke' "Butterfly sucks' (whoops, had to work that one in)...anyway, we all hope to hear that you've been good. No photos, please.

[The Fortress]

Beth, you'll be fine, just concentrate on the experience and the joy of it. By the way, we expect some photos.


Excellent idea! Beth, post some photos of you and your daughter. That would be fun! You're not swimming the 100 breast though are you? Just the relay together? I'm so glad you can do fly!! :groovy: The best stroke ever -- also the most shoulder wrecking stroke (well for my particular ailment anyway). ;) Are you swimming your fav event, the 100 free? Report back so we can give you some more attagirls. I think we all enjoy doing that. :)

Peter:

There will be no photos. :shakeshead: They weren't all "injections." Some just pin pricks, slapped some biofreeze on it. No more NSAIDs. We'll see over time whether the prolo helps. I am apparently the first prolo guinea pig on these boards even though it seems to be increasing in popularity. Me and those baseball pitchers ... If my shoulder is substantially better in 6 months and I can still swim and and fly and compete along the way, I'm changing my name to ProloQueen. :rofl: I'm sure FlyQueen won't mind. Especially since she appears to be morphing into a freestyler. She may have to get a new secret nemesis. ;) Just don't give me up the 50 fly, FlyQueen, even if you love that 100 free!

At least no one can say I'm conventional in my choice of therapy. ;)

[Peter Cruise]

Perhaps you would be a Prolo-tarian...

[SwimStud]

OK. Totally gratuitous bit of news. I just looked in the mirror.

My top 2 abs are just barely discernable if I stretch and tense...woot!
Haven't seen those guys since about '94---they look pale...guess they got jealous of my calves having all the attention eh, Jim?

/flex

[FlyQueen]

Excellent idea! Beth, post some photos of you and your daughter. That would be fun! You're not swimming the 100 breast though are you? Just the relay together? I'm so glad you can do fly!! :groovy: The best stroke ever -- also the most shoulder wrecking stroke (well for my particular ailment anyway). ;) Are you swimming your fav event, the 100 free? Report back so we can give you some more attagirls. I think we all enjoy doing that. :)

Peter:

There will be no photos. :shakeshead: They weren't all "injections." Some just pin pricks, slapped some biofreeze on it. No more NSAIDs. We'll see over time whether the prolo helps. I am apparently the first prolo guinea pig on these boards even though it seems to be increasing in popularity. Me and those baseball pitchers ... If my shoulder is substantially better in 6 months and I can still swim and and fly and compete along the way, I'm changing my name to ProloQueen. :rofl: I'm sure FlyQueen won't mind. Especially since she appears to be morphing into a freestyler. She may have to get a new secret nemesis. ;) Just don't give me up the 50 fly, FlyQueen, even if you love that 100 free!

At least no one can say I'm conventional in my choice of therapy. ;)



Actually I am thinking I am 100 swimmer. The 100s I will swim will be fly and free. Fly is still my favorite stroke but I still have a ways to go before I can actually earn my moniker. We'll see ... I'll still do the 50s for sure and MIGHT bump up the 200 free ever so often (the 100 free is fabulous just like my other big sister says)

I will NEVER give up the 50 fly, too much fun. I am liking the 100 more and more and I hope you beat me down ... :dedhorse: ... If I ever start talking 200 fly again in any way shape or form (with the possible excpetion of doing it at state for teammate points)

Anyway ... Beth I am SO happy for you that you are back in the water. I think it's great that your daughter is swimming with you. Can't wait to hear about that. How is your other daughter doing?

[The Fortress]

Perhaps you would be a Prolo-tarian...

Are you hijacking your own thread? :rofl:

I think I've already advanced a wee bit up the cursus honorum. So I'm not sure I want to go back ....

FlyQueen:

Listen to your big sis, do not ever swim the 200 fly!! Or you and your labrum will join me in Prolo-land.

Way to go Rich! Glad you're giving the ladies an eyeful at the pool. ;)

[islandsox]

Congrats to both Swim Stud and Fortress; Swim Stud for finally finding two abs that can be seen without binoculars (I don't have any), and for Fortress for becoming a science experiment. Look forward to updates.

donna

[SwimStud]

Congrats to both Swim Stud and Fortress; Swim Stud for finally finding two abs that can be seen without binoculars (I don't have any), and for Fortress for becoming a science experiment. Look forward to updates.

donna

FrankenFort? :thhbbb: :rofl:

[islandsox]

FrankenFort? :thhbbb: :rofl:


Rich,

:rofl::rofl: Good one.

[imspoiled]

. :shakeshead: They weren't all "injections." Some just pin pricks, slapped some biofreeze on it.

Either way, OUCH Fort! I can't believe you still swim 4000 after all that. I would be swimming in a big green appletini!:notworthy:

Isn't Biofreeze the best!!! A trainer put me onto it a few years back & it is now a swim bag staple.

I wish I could say that I do 5000 with the kiddies all the time. Alas, it's usually only once a week. It takes me that long to recover afterward. My engine is not quite vintage, but it ain't a brand new hemi either.:eek:

Dana

[Got Boost]

30 of any thing in one area... Then to swim after.... I don't think I am tough enough to hang out here;)
Seriously Fortress, I hope your shoulder heals up for you. A guy that works for me had a torn rotater cuff and it took him along time to fully recover. I hope yours does not get to the point of surgery.
Got Boost

[The Fortress]

FrankenFort? :thhbbb: :rofl:

Did you miss the NH designation? :thhbbb:

Thanks guys. I swam the 4000 BEFORE I got the 30 prolo jabs. I'm still kinda sore today. Might not swim until tomorrow... Shouldn't be surgical. No big ole SLAP tear. Just all worn out; surgery not indicted for that problem. That's why there is no real handicap for age groupers, as Muppet was saying in Dave's previous handicap thread. Any muscle memory advantage is wiped out by the wear and tear you put yourself through doing mega-yardage when young. I'm optimistic. I just don't want to be only a breaststroker the rest of my life.:thhbbb: I'm leaving that for mini-Fort. One breaststroker in the family is enough!

I hope to meet you at Zones, Dana. I'll sing up for some wee sprints and the 1-IM. Sounds like you may be kicking my butt in those events though. Biofreeze is divine. Medic Ice is good too. Not as cold.

I don't think I'll do an appletini. The doc did say glass of wine was a good muscle relaxer in the evening. I like breaststokers with pinot grigio. ;) :thhbbb:

[imspoiled]

Did you miss the NH designation? :thhbbb:

I just don't want to be only a breaststroker the rest of my life.:thhbbb: I'm leaving that for mini-Fort. One breaststroker in the family is enough!



Amen to that sister! My daughter is also a b-stroker, and I love her anyway. I swim the b-stroke mainly to make her work harder. If I can beat her, she practices harder!

Promise not to do any butt kicking at zones. Will be in the midst of major engine building for Nats, and plan to swim "off" events. I actually have the 200 breast penciled in on my entry form; although, I may come to my senses before mailing.

[newmastersswimmer]

Perhaps you would be a Prolo-tarian...

o.k. enough of your Canadian Socialists comments o.k. Peter!! This is a swimming forum not a forum to spread your pro-communist political platform o.k.!! (just joking now Peter....Pssst...Its a secret but I'm an anti-capatilist too....just don't tell anyone o.k.....o.k. people...just j/k now people!!...or am I??)

Newmastersswimmer

[Peter Cruise]

Leslie- of course, I'm not hijacking my own thread. That would be wrong.
By the way, did you say you were an honorary corpse? Surely your shoulder isn't that bad yet?

The rest of you, lay off the Fort, she's had a hard time lately...shopping.

Attaboy, Rich. Also no pictures, please.

Lurching the thread back onto task, I actually descended a set of 100's properly last night, instead of staying in survival mode as I have been since getting back in the water.

[SwimStud]

Lurching the thread back onto task, I actually descended a set of 100's properly last night, instead of staying in survival mode as I have been since getting back in the water.

Good job on bringing the thread back into line...ATTABOY! :thhbbb:

[The Fortress]

Leslie- of course, I'm not hijacking my own thread. That would be wrong.
By the way, did you say you were an honorary corpse? Surely your shoulder isn't that bad yet?

The rest of you, lay off the Fort, she's had a hard time lately...shopping.



Peter:

I think you should feel free to post any pictures as well. Since they won't be of newly discovered ab muscles or bruised shoulders or whatnot, I think they'll pass the HWMNBN offense test. And we could see the pain caused by those descending breaststroke swims.

In fact, as you note, I have been very busy shopping for shoulder holders. What a job. You'd think us reformed prolo-tarians could hire someone to do those tedious chores ... Next time I'll send mini-Fort. Good assignment for a breaststroker.

Cheers oh lefty one,

Not yet an honorary corpse/SWMNNH

P.S. Attaboy SS!

[goggles]

At a recent meet I wasn't pleased with my 50 LCM time (30.68), got drafted onto the 200LCM Relay team and did 29.09. Pleased with that

[Slowswim]

Peter:

... HWMNBN offense test.

Huh????:confused:

[Peter Cruise]

Good work, Goggles- those relays can sure inspire.

[goggles]

Good work, Goggles- those relays can sure inspire.

Yeah. Talk about pressure!

[The Fortress]

I'm giving a big ATTAGIRL to my FAF Sistas, Swimr4Life and FlyQueen for having such great meets this weekend!!!! Yay!!!

:groovy: :banana: :woot: :bow: :lolup: :smooch:

[newmastersswimmer]

I'm giving a big ATTAGIRL to my FAF Sistas, Swimr4Life and FlyQueen for having such great meets this weekend!!!! Yay!!!

:groovy: :banana: :woot: :bow: :lolup: :smooch:

I'll second that! :...and don't forget about Carrie....she did pretty well too I believe. :applaud:

Newmastersswimmer

BTW Peter, What happened to the I use Seagulls as toothpicks signature?....I guess its now blowing in the wind too eh?

[The Fortress]

I'll second that! :...and don't forget about Carrie....she did pretty well too I believe. :applaud:

Newmastersswimmer

That's right! Our resident Spiderman had a great 100 free among other things. Way to go, Feisty! :banana:

[Peter Cruise]

Kudos to all, this is the time of year when work starts to pay off. Remember, any positive swim thing, we want to hear about it.

Those on the shelf, however temporarily, let your frustration become determination; you will endure the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and return to full activity soon.


Avatars and signatures will change periodically, in response to the environment. (hee hee)

[swimmieAvsFan]

forgive me for posting this nearly a week after the fact...

last wednesday night, we had a 2600 yard main set that was very very very kick heavy (not all straight kicking, but the entire emphasis of the set was killing our legs)... so i plugged away through the set, and our coach gave me and one of the guys a so-called get out swim at the end of the set. he wanted us to go 1:15 or under for a 100 kick (in yards). so off this guy and i go, and long (painful!) story short, we both went 1:14s. :banana:
i think i might have been 18 or so last time i was under 1:15 for a 100 kick...
:D

(addendum to the story- we were going to be done with practice whether or not the 2 of us were under 1:15, but we didn't know that till after the 100 kick ;) )

[FlyQueen]

Congrats Mollie!

I did have a great meet this weekend, thanks Fort. Fiesty did awesome, too. She took her 200 free out like a champ. :rofl: (she did great!) She had a smokin' 100 free for sure though!

I had a PR in the 50 and 100 fly and an in season best in the 50 free so I'm happy. :woot:

[3strokes]

:shakeshead:
Peter Cruise;84126...............

Those on the shelf, however temporarily


Even though we (some of us) are way past our best-before-dates?

:)

Of course, I'm speaking only for myself..............

P.S. Couldn't find a <sigh> smiley, so .......... :shakeshead:



, let your frustration become determination; you will endure the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and return to full activity soon.

[aquaFeisty]

Mollie, a sub 1:15 FLUTTER kick boggles my wee little mind... WOW!

And thanks, everyone! I was quite happy with my 100 free this weekend. Fastest in-season 100 free since 1999 (which was wayyyyy pre-kid!)

[knelson]

I had a meet today and the first two events were the 400 IM and 500 free. I decided to swim both. I'm happy to report I did not, in fact, die during the 500 free :) Actually the 500 went well. I wanted to take it out nice and easy and build up if I still had the energy. I ended up negative splitting it by 2.5 seconds with my last 100 being faster than my first 100!

[Peter Cruise]

Way to go, Kirk! That Seattle coffee still works...

[The Fortress]

Yesterday, I swam on my first ever 200+ years relay! It was the mixed 200 free relay in SCM. It was an honor to swim with my two 60+ year old male teammates who are in outstanding shape as well as my speedy girl teammate. We went a 2:00, pretty good for old codgers. Even though we were dead tired as the relay was at the end of the meet at 7:00 pm, we had great fun. I love relays. I led off with a 29.1. Since it was my first meet ever swimming the 50 free in SCM (aside from the open event a bit earlier in the day, 29.2), it was a automatic PR. He, he, he. (I passed on the 400 IM.) Today, though, I feel like a mack truck ran over me. Haven't done much sprinting at all for 2 weeks because of the science experiment, so now I really feel it. My other two events weren't PRs, but close enough. Happy.

Kirk:

I can't believe you swam those two events back to back with such fabulous results. I'd say you're in great shape for Nats. Congrats!

[Peter Cruise]

Way to go, Leslie. Get some rest.

[The Fortress]

Way to go, Leslie. Get some rest.

I'm trying to rest, but chess is so stressful when you're not an expert like the Bork. :rofl:

I have a heavy night of TV watching ahead later, I think. Rome and The Tudors are on HBO tonight.

I should give an attagirl to Julie too while I'm typing. She was at the meet and swam tremendously, rounding trouncing me in the 100 back and looking like a superstar in the 400 IM.

[newmastersswimmer]

Congrats to Kirk on negative splitting a 500 and coming home faster than you took it out (I'm sure that I have never come anywhere close to doing that one before LOL!)...congrats to Mollie! I could never in a million years kick a 100 that fast!....And also congrats to Fort for going 29.1 in a 50 SCM free. That converts to a 26 flat in SCY according to the following conversion utility:

http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/results/conversions.asp

Thats a fantastic time Fortissimo! ...especially considering you've been plagued with shoulder problems and such and having the 30 shots and what not!

And of course congrats to FlyQueen for her fast fly swims and Carrie for her fast 100 free. Its great to hear how well everyone is doing. I will be anxious to here how poolraat and Richie Rich both did this weekend.

A small accomplishment for me. I had a pretty nice workout today (about 2500 meters with some mini-sprints and work on turns and such)...and I was able to get a MWF workout regiment set up today with an old swimming buddy. The only downside is that we will be working out at 5:45 in the morning on each of those days (so we'll see how long that one lasts LOL!). If I can work in a couple of spin classes in between and some weight training on Tues/Thurs...(and some mixed corss training and swimming in on Sat and Sun), then I might actually lose some weight between now and when I have to step up tp the plate and actually compete again sometime in the Fall. It sounds pretty good right now in theory ..... so we'll just have to wait and see.

Nemastersswimmer

[newmastersswimmer]

I'm trying to rest, but chess is so stressful when you're not an expert like the Bork. :rofl:

I have a heavy night of TV watching ahead later, I think. Rome and The Tudors are on HBO tonight.

I should give an attagirl to Julie too while I'm typing. She was at the meet and swam tremendously, rounding trouncing me in the 100 back and looking like a superstar in the 400 IM.


That almost sounds like a challenge of some sort Fort?!

Newmastersswimmer

[Peter Cruise]

Good stuff, Bork- the weight will come off.

Don't challenge Leslie, it is invariably fatal.

[Mausy]

I have to say that I am trying to get back into shape after 1.5 years off and in practice last week I did 21x100 IM on 1:35 and made the majority of them with 5-10 sec. rest. Obviously, there were a few that were pretty close to no rest. I was in a freestyle lane and slowly worked my way up to third. I was very pleased!

[knelson]

Congrats to Kirk on negative splitting a 500 and coming home faster than you took it out

Thanks!

congrats to Mollie! I could never in a million years kick a 100 that fast!

I could. Of course I'd need fins! :)

[Julie Roddin]

I should give an attagirl to Julie too while I'm typing. She was at the meet and swam tremendously, rounding trouncing me in the 100 back and looking like a superstar in the 400 IM.

HA HA! I was going to give myself an attagirl for that 400 IM yesterday. You saw that? My arms nearly fell off in the 100 fly, but I think I rebounded pretty well and it only took me until the middle of breast to catch the person in the lane next to me who crushed me in the first 100 by 17 seconds. I would have been in BIG trouble if I had to out sprint someone to the finish. Good times.....400 IM is always good times. I'm skipping it at zones since it's right before the 100 back.

I'm actually going to taper for colonies zones. I talked to Cheryl (GMUP coach) at practice today about it because I just don't trust myself to back off enough. I have a new open water training buddy and I ended up doing 31,000 last week. We've known about each other for years but never really connected about swimming together. We're both recovering from some running injuries so this summer looks like a good summer to focus on swimming. It's been fun! Oh, speaking of practice today, we ended up doing a set focused around the 400 IM. Good thing all three of us who did the 400 IM last night showed up for practice. I was less than thrilled, but suffered through it...even the fly.

Everyone did awesome at the meet yesterday. Muppet & SwimmieAvsFan were there and it was SO much fun to watch them race!!!!

Fort, did you tell them about your meet records. FORT ROCKS!!!!! AND it's taper time for Colonies Zones. Who else is excited?!?!?!

[Peter Cruise]

Mausy- sounds like you are well on your way back- good tough swimming!

Julie- sounds like a great effort on that 400IM, good stuff! And Leslie is obviously too shy and withdrawn to give us specifics, so why don't you?
(BTW it is fine to inform on good performances of other forum regulars in this thread. I have decided.)

[Julie Roddin]

(BTW it is fine to inform on good performances of other forum regulars in this thread. I have decided.)

If Fort is going to talk about my 400 IM and 100 Back, YES I'm going to let you guys know about her meet records. She CRUSHED the records!!!!!

ATTAGIRL, FORT!!!!!!

[newmastersswimmer]

Good stuff, Bork- the weight will come off.

Don't challenge Leslie, it is invariably fatal.


I appreciate your encouraging words Peter! I have to challenge Fort in something ....She's been dissing on me for a couple of days now LOL!:thhbbb: So Fortissimo crushed several records I hear....Thats awesome news Fort!! You must have been smokin fast this weekend! And with the shoulder probs and everything....pretty impressive stuff!
So Lets hear the details,.... We're all so curious now! ...And Its o.k. to brag on yourself on this thread Fort...its kind of what the thread is all about.... so no need to be bashful about it...so spill the beans now o.k.!

Newmastersswimmer

[globuggie]

I just swam my first ever 500 free yesterday, and it actually went pretty well! I paced it conservatively, and felt good all the way through. My time was about 7:40, which wasn't fast, but is much faster than I've ever gone in practice. Hopefully I'll get to swim it again soon and improve my time - my team had time trials, so that was my 3rd of 6 events in about 1 hour and 40 minutes.

[SwimStud]

Congrats to all who did good this week. For those I'll see at Zones...bring your cameras!
:D :D

Today, 3/25, I kept my goggles water free and did my first 100 IM.:drink:

Personal highlight, for me...the 100IM going from a full body length behind my next lane to being inches away from him on the touch.

Also, to ATTAGIRL m2tall2 for coming in WELL UNDER her target time on the 100 BR. Good Job!!

[The Fortress]

Today, 3/25, I kept my goggles water free and did my first 100 IM.:drink:

I am very, very proud of you, SS, for giving one of my fav events a try!! I hope you had a good meet. I know you were battling much adversity, but it builds character to give it a go anyway! PM me with all your times or else I'll look them up. Attaboy!

Julie:

I was warming down from the 50 free while you were doing you fly, so I missed that bit of the 400 IM. I saw the rest. You looked smooth, strong, in control and really, really good. I didn't even see your time; I knew it was good just from watching you! You hammered everyone the rest of the race! And BTW, that breaststroke leg looked really good; I think you might be quite good at the 200 breaststroke after all! And of course, I saw that speedy 100 back, 2 full seconds faster than a year ago. All your training is really paying off. You're going to have a great zones! Glad y'all went to practice. I was too dead. Going for an easy swim tomorrow. Here's another plug: Our training partner Wally Dicks set a WR in the 50 breast SCM: 29.9, men's 40-44, with outrageously wiggly starting blocks and timing pads. That's flying!

Peter and Jim:

I only play figurative chess with bookworms, Jim, although I see my worthy opponent took a day off. Maybe I am fatal. Ha! I forget how to play the real deal with the likes of you! I am so glad you are working so hard on your training. I'm a little scared how fast you're going to go when we all meet up in Austin though. You'll be great!

If you really must know, argh, I couldn't feel my arms and legs on the last 15 meters of the 100 back. Bad training, no engine building ... But I was told I had a good start with a lot of SDKs. He, he.

I am oh so shy and retiring as everyone knows. :rofl: 50 free and 50 fly were the MRs. (I was 2nd to the WR holder in the 100 back, so I didn't go home with my nail between my legs.) I don't believe those conversation tables, Jim. They always give you slow converted times. So I prefer to think I went a converted 25.8 or 25.9 in the 50 free rather than a 26.0, which is faster than last October. LOL. But, since I haven't really sprinted much lately, I was flailing around, looking very un-TI. I also breathed way too much. Not used to swimming meters. Did the best I could for that day in my life.

Muppet and SwimmieAvsFan also had very solid untapered, unclipped swims with nary a fastskin in sight. Youngsters. Muppet might have gone faster (although he PR'd the 100 free) if he had focused on his races instead of obsessing on the long windy kiddie water slide. He, he. Swimmie had a really good 200 free at the end of a long meet.

Jeff Roddin, although he doesn't post much, went a :58 in the 100 fly. OMG. Scarey fast.

Great job Mausy and globuggie!! Thanks for reporting.

[FlyQueen]

Congrats Fort, SS, Julie, & Globuggie ... and everyone else who posted!

[poolraat]

I will be anxious to here how poolraat and Richie Rich both did this weekend.

Jim,
My meet is still a week away. I'll be sure to let you guys know how it goes. I'll be at the same meet as Kyra.

Congratulations to all who had great swims in their meets this weekend.
:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[newmastersswimmer]

Congrats to all who did good this week. For those I'll see at Zones...bring your cameras!
:D :D

Today, 3/25, I kept my goggles water free and did my first 100 IM.:drink:

Personal highlight, for me...the 100IM going from a full body length behind my next lane to being inches away from him on the touch.

Also, to ATTAGIRL m2tall2 for coming in WELL UNDER her target time on the 100 BR. Good Job!!

I'm guessing you caught the guy on the breaststroke leg. Its always good to have a decent breaststroke in any IM as it comes at perhaps the most crucial point in the race. Congrats on doing so well on your first attempt at that race! From what I understand, you swam quite a lot of different events. I hope you enjoyed the 50 fly o.k.? You also seemed to have become afflicted with a wave of several different kinds of ailments leading up to the meet. You have to get an A for guts if nothing else.

Newmastersswimmer

[SwimStud]

I'm guessing you caught the guy on the breaststroke leg. Its always good to have a decent breaststroke in any IM as it comes at perhaps the most crucial point in the race. Congrats on doing so well on your first attempt at that race! From what I understand, you swam quite a lot of different events. I hope you enjoyed the 50 fly o.k.? You also seemed to have become afflicted with a wave of several different kinds of ailments leading up to the meet. You have to get an A for guts if nothing else.

Newmastersswimmer

Thanks Jim!
It felt good. Took out the 25 fly under water a la breast, then popped up and swam to the wall. I could hear my heat mates thrashing while I was streamlining silently beneath them...
My 2nd 50 was faster than the first and it was the final 25 on the FR that I turned and just went after the guy next to me. It was a good, "big meet"/"new event intimidation" experience. A lot of great folks too!

[Peter Cruise]

Mr. Multi-Purpose Brit: who knows what you'll do when 100% healthy? I smell a 400 IM coming...

[SwimStud]

Mr. Multi-Purpose Brit: who knows what you'll do when 100% healthy? I smell a 400 IM coming...

That's me...mr multi purpose.

I'm the "swiss army knife" of swimming
:rofl:
400 not just yet. 200IM looks like it has my name on it though...

[aquaFeisty]

Since tattling on the good deeds of other forum posters has been ok'd by Mr. Thread-Initiator himself, wanted to say that Flyqueen did not only have a great swim yesterday, she took 4 seconds off her PB in the 100 fly (unshaved, unrested, wearing a regular suit)!!! Watch out for the taper, ladies and gentlemen!

As for me, the times are much faster in-season this year than last and I really hope to hit some pre-baby times at State next month!

[newmastersswimmer]

Since tattling on the good deeds of other forum posters has been ok'd by Mr. Thread-Initiator himself, wanted to say that Flyqueen did not only have a great swim yesterday, she took 4 seconds off her PB in the 100 fly (unshaved, unrested, wearing a regular suit)!!! Watch out for the taper, ladies and gentlemen!

As for me, the times are much faster in-season this year than last and I really hope to hit some pre-baby times at State next month!

Congrats to both you and Heather, Carrie. I think you guys are going to turn in some really fast times at your state meet based on how well y'all's meets have been going ...and the fact that you will be shaved and tapered (and wearing fastskins I presume?)

I'm also glad to hear Rich did well in his 100 IM! Sorry to hear about your goggle malfunctions in your breaststroke races. Its amazing you were able to get anywhere near your previous times though with that stomach virus and the back probs. Just make sure to stay healty between now and zones and you may have some big time drops at that meet! I think you can go 32 in the 50 breast if you were running on all 4 cyllinders and properly rested.

Newmastersswimmer

p.s. Good luck this weekend Floyd and Kyra!! Sorry to hear about your cold Kyra. Get plenty of rest and take some vitamins.

[FlyQueen]

Thanks Carrie. Carrie kicked my butt in the 50 & 100 free, despite me being in a later heat ... I need to rethink how I seed myself ... Very nice sprints Carrie!

[swimr4life]

I'm giving a big ATTAGIRL to my FAF Sistas, Swimr4Life and FlyQueen for having such great meets this weekend!!!! Yay!!!

:groovy: :banana: :woot: :bow: :lolup: :smooch:

Thanks so much Sis! It was so special to be able to share the Masters experience with my daughter!! It was her first Masters meet (she is 18) and she loved it! She couldn't get over how laid back, fun and supportive everyone was. I also enjoyed showing her off to all my old swimming buddies. We both won high point for our age groups!! My times were ok considering I was out of the water for 3 months! I was way off my best times but its ok considering the circumstances. I'm considering them my "new best times" for my 45-49 age group.:banana: The thing I'm most proud of was even splitting my 200 free! I usually DON'T DO THAT! Boy...it sure did feel better swimming it that way! I'm usually of the sprinter "go out hard and hold on til the end" school of thought. The events were extrememely close together so the meet was very tiring.

Unfortunately I started coming down with the true blue flu the next day! I was out of commission all week last week. Oh my....I don't ever remember being that sick in my entire life! ....and I had a flu shot! :( I ran a fever for 4-5 days and felt horrid! I'm finally able to function today. Tamiflu....I think I love you!

[Peter Cruise]

Kudos for everyone, esp. Heather: what a time drop!

[imspoiled]

Congrats to all on some super swims this past weekend! I am really excited to see what you all do at zones, especially if a taper is involved. I'm not planning a zones taper, so I suspect I'll be seeing a lot of your feet as I swim in your collective wakes. I'll be checking for pedicures ladies!

Last night I swam with a different masters team in the area. SCY pool vs. the LCM I'm used too. Wanted to start getting in some speed work before zones/nats. Wound up swimming in a group with an interval too fast for me (ascending 50's broken up by descending 100's) and spent the first set doing touch & gos to keep up. Exhausting, but glad to have gotten through it. Followed that with a 600 IM (75 fly, 50 back, 25 breast, 75 free, 50 fly, 25 back, etc). Actually swam all the fly and didn't fall too far behind the group. :woot:

[some_girl]

I'm guessing you caught the guy on the breaststroke leg. Its always good to have a decent breaststroke in any IM as it comes at perhaps the most crucial point in the race.

Newmastersswimmer

Ha, ha, that's what the girl next to me in my IM thought. She caught me at the wall, but then it was time for free, and I was gone. That was sweet.

[SwimStud]

Ha, ha, that's what the girl next to me in my IM thought. She caught me at the wall, but then it was time for free, and I was gone. That was sweet.
Some Girl don't you have a certain accomplishment you ought to be sharing.... *cough*50fly*cough*

[some_girl]

Some Girl don't you have a certain accomplishment you ought to be sharing.... *cough*50fly*cough*

Um, I dropped a lot of time in many events. And made some nationals cuts. And FlyQueen is going down.

It is the last of these that is most important. Let us focus on that.

[SwimStud]

Um, I dropped a lot of time in many events. And made some nationals cuts. And FlyQueen is going down.

Attagirl!!!! ;)

[FlyQueen]

Um, I dropped a lot of time in many events. And made some nationals cuts. And FlyQueen is going down.

It is the last of these that is most important. Let us focus on that.

Just wait until I taper ...

[some_girl]

Just wait until I taper ...

Ah, but I get to taper and swim again after you. Just one of the many benefits of actually going to Nationals. [imagine smiley icon here]

[The Fortress]

Ha, ha, that's what the girl next to me in my IM thought. She caught me at the wall, but then it was time for free, and I was gone. That was sweet.

Attagirl!!! Congrats on your Nats cuts too!

As all right minded folks well know, breaststroke is just a means to get to freestyle in the IM. Good luck to both you and FlyQueen in your fly war. It will be interesting to see who emerges victorious after taper. Now, stop hijacking this thread with your trash talk and go post on the "grudge race" thread. :thhbbb:

imspoiled:

Attagirl!!! I love twizzlers, BTW. No zone "taper" for me. I think you actually need to train a reasonable amount for a taper. I'll take it easy the week before and then just show up and swim. Julie is tapering though so watch out for her in the 200 back! She looks really good right now.

[SwimStud]

Just wait until I taper ...

Ah, but I get to taper and swim again after you. Just one of the many benefits of actually going to Nationals. [imagine smiley icon here]

Look...you're both really heading for a fall...I swam an OK maiden 50 fly with a really bad back and just a few sessions of self teaching...just wait until I'm fit...I may sex change just to beat you both on the books!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[FlyQueen]

Forty when did you become the dictator of the off topic posting? :thhbbb: ;)

Like I said, Bring it!

[The Fortress]

Forty when did you become the dictator of the off topic posting? :thhbbb: ;)

Like I said, Bring it!

I'm defending Peter's honor. :D He did say "NH." :thhbbb:

But I'm prepared to trounce both you and some girl anyway, even without a taper or any engine building, if you want to focus on that. Ha! :laugh2:

I can't wait to see SS in action. :banana: He had a pretty darn good maiden 50 fly. Attaboy Rich!

[chaos]

Look...you're both really heading for a fall...I swam an OK maiden 50 fly with a really bad back and just a few sessions of self teaching...just wait until I'm fit...I may sex change just to beat you both on the books!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

a sex change will alter your center of gravity, and you will have to learn how to fly all over again. it will be easier than walking in heels though...i'm sure.

[some_girl]

Now, stop hijacking this thread with your trash talk and go post on the "grudge race" thread. :thhbbb:


Sorry, Peter. One good meet and I start babbling. I shall be good and quiet from now on.

(And thanks, Fort.)

[Peter Cruise]

Leslie can stand in for me anytime. And I know that youthful high spirits are kicking in (notice that the butterflyers start it, bugling their challenges like charging dinosaurs) but yeah, I think all this could discourage someone happy with completing their first race etc., from posting. Which doesn't mean that I don't expect to see these anticipated results to start pouring in to receive the coveted 'Attaboy' or 'Attagirl' (or posted by helpful forum reporters to overcome bashful self-censorship). Good luck to everyone, grudge matches or not, keep us informed.

[The Fortress]

And I know that youthful high spirits are kicking in (notice that the butterflyers start it, bugling their challenges like charging dinosaurs)

ATTAGIRL, LOUD FLYERS!!!! :groovy:

Ew, don't be quiet now some girl.

I'll also give an attagirl to Gerdrick for going to her first meet and getting tips from ande! :applaud:

[m2tall2]

Also, to ATTAGIRL m2tall2 for coming in WELL UNDER her target time on the 100 BR. Good Job!!

Yay me! :applaud:

I think the best part of blasting 3.65 seconds off my 100 breast is I feel like I really broke a personal barrier with it. That one swim really hit home and took me mentally from being someone trying to get their fitness back to someone who is in shape again. I look better, I feel better, I fit in most of my college clothes again but nothing quite says Mission "Operation get your butt healthy again" Accomplished like a weekend of time dropping and holding proper splits.

[Peter Cruise]

Good for you, Michelle.

[Allen Stark]

Great job Michelle:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

[newmastersswimmer]

With Michelle dropping nearly 4 seconds off of her 100 breast time and Heather dropping 4 seconds off of her 100 fly time, it makes the time drops by Phelps look tame in comparison! 4 seconds (or 3.6 seconds) is a super big drop for a 100 Great job to both of y'all!! ...or in the words chosen for this thread Attagirls to both of y'all!! (now maybe I can drop 1 or 2 seconds in my 100 fly over the course of all of next season?? We'll see LOL!)

Newmastersswimmer

[SwimStud]

With Michelle dropping nearly 4 seconds off of her 100 breast time and Heather dropping 4 seconds off of her 100 fly time, it makes the time drops by Phelps look tame in comparison! 4 seconds (or 3.6 seconds) is a super big drop for a 100 Great job to both of y'all!! ...or in the words chosen for this thread Attagirls to both of y'all!! (now maybe I can drop 1 or 2 seconds in my 100 fly over the course of all of next season?? We'll see LOL!)

Newmastersswimmer

I actually think Michelle was swimming faster to get away from me at the far end of the lane!
:joker:

[newmastersswimmer]

I actually think Michelle was swimming faster to get away from me at the far end of the lane!
:joker:


I knew there had to be a rational explanation for such a huge time drop....now it all makes perfect sense. Thanks Rich! :rofl: :rofl:

Newmastersswimmer

[Peter Cruise]

Attaboy to Jeff Commings for his usual awesome results at Arizona meet.

[poolraat]

My turn:
I swam in the Inland NW Masters Champs meet in Pullman WA last weekend. I didn't do as well as I wanted in 2 of my races but the other 2 were ok.
100 back: About 4 sec off my best. My legs went numb after the 1st 50. Need to do more kicking and work more on the 2nd half of this race.
200 IM: First time I've swam this event. OMG! I must've went out too fast in the fly (it felt good) 'cause I died big time about halfway through the back and just finishing was an accomplishment.
100 fly: Only the 3rd time I've done this one. PB by 5 sec. The halfway point of this race ia NOT at the 50! I swam well for 75 then it was butterstruggle the rest of the way. My teammate said it was painful to watch.
50 fly: About .4 off my pb but it felt great and no struggle. Smooth and strong all the way. Pic of the start showed me off the blocks last. Need to work on reaction at the start!
Now I need to decide between the 100 back or 100 fly for Nats. for my 6th entry.

[imspoiled]

Way to go Poolraat!

I completely agree about the 100 fly. The "halfway" point is after the third turn!

For my money I'd do the 100 back at Nats. Have fun making that decision.

Dana

[FlyQueen]

I'd definitely do the 100 fly, much better event. It's the tough guy event. I found that if I hold breathing one up one down the whole way the second 50 doesn't hurt as much.

[BabsVa]

This is great. As a new swimmer, I am usually hesitant to post, but enjoy reading this board.

I still start out in the pool feeling nervous/tense/unconfident/generally stoopit - it has only been a few months that I have been swimming any kind of real stroke. There is so much to learn.

And yay me! I will actually do three or so real flip turns per session now. I got all the way down the pool doing butterfly last week.

A good coach makes for much better and faster progress.

And love what swimming does for the bod - flat abs with no (or very few) situps!

[Peter Cruise]

Gato- impressive swimming, just get the pacing issues done and there'll be no stopping you (except the wall).

It sounds like you were at the same meets as Kyra...any information for us?

[poolraat]

Gato- impressive swimming, just get the pacing issues done and there'll be no stopping you (except the wall).

It sounds like you were at the same meets as Kyra...any information for us?

Thanks Peter. Kyra was at the same meet. I thought she did great, but I'll let her tell you all about it.

[Seagurl51]

Thanks Peter. Kyra was at the same meet. I thought she did great, but I'll let her tell you all about it.

I must confess I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so when I randomly opened it and see y'all talking about me, I thought I'd post my times. ;) They're ok, but I think I could have done better.

50 free- 33 (ties my personal best)
100 free - 1:15 (my PB is 1:14)
1000 free- 15:01
50 breast - 43 (could have been better)
100 breast - 1:36

[The Fortress]

Attagirl Kyra and BabsVa! Flip turns are awesome! Glad they're coming along. Kyra, those are good times, especially considering this was your first meet in awhile! I'm glad you had fun and got to meet Gato. And of course, your suit and googles were simply mahvelous! ;)

Gato: Kudos on doing such tough events. Can't lose either way on the 100 back or 100 fly. But if you're into that "comfort swimming" thing, stick with back. That last length of fly is ever so painful. Way to go!
:applaud: :groovy: :banana:

[Peter Cruise]

Sorry I missed you, BabsVa- Attagirl, every step in the right direction will make the next one come that much quicker.

Kyra- times looked pretty darned good to me, keep up the training (what else is there to do in the boonies?) and we'll see some big drops.

[newmastersswimmer]

Attagirl to Kyra and attaboy to poolraat for their meet performances this weekend. Kyra was also fighting a cold going into that meet and that could have been one of the reasons she felt so drained after your races. I say swim the 100 fly poolraat b/c your 50 fly was pretty fast and you only died on the last 25 of your 100 fly. You have to get use to swimming that event....and you swam it for the first time in a long while this past weekend. After you swim it a couple of more times, you will probably die a lot less on the last 25....(and work on the breathing as well).....Also remember that there are such things as 100 IMS too poolrat LOL! :thhbbb:

Also Attagirl to Babsva for conquering the flip turns better at practice! I'm glad to hear how you are becoming more comfortable about them now!

Newmastersswimmer :groovy:

[Mswimming]

.....Also remember that there are such things as 100 IMS too poolrat LOL! :thhbbb:



I swam the 100 IM for the first time ever this past weekend. OMG - that is a fun race. I still felt like an old lady on the freeway during the breaststroke leg, however. :joker: I didn't realize that you can still get killed by the breaststrokers over 25yards. :shakeshead:

[Jeff Commings]

Attaboy to Jeff Commings for his usual awesome results at Arizona meet.

Peter, how did you find out about the results way up there in BC?

And if you saw my 100 free, you wouldn't call it awesome.

[newmastersswimmer]

I swam the 100 IM for the first time ever this past weekend. OMG - that is a fun race. I still felt like an old lady on the freeway during the breaststroke leg, however. :joker: I didn't realize that you can still get killed by the breaststrokers over 25yards. :shakeshead:


I know how you feel Mswimming!.....but the farther you can get on the underwater pullout, the less breaststroke you actually have to swim. So if you can somehow get about 10-15 meters underwater (with the newly allowed dolphin kick inserted in there), you only have to swim around 12 - 15 yards of actual breaststroke....even so, I still lose significant ground on that cursed leg anyway!!.....So here's your slim to none window of opportunity now Richie Rich (cause I know you're going to read this)...I hope your taking notes now LOL!:rofl: :rofl:


Newmastersswimmer :groovy: :groovy: :banana: :banana:

[SwimStud]

All I have to say about Breastroke leg is Mwahahahaha...and after that then I'm left with the Free to really catchup or pass because all you easy stroke swimmers are tired from actually using your muscles rather than gliding about...

[Peter Cruise]

Jeff, I take my 'Atta' responsibilities seriously, it was a piece of cake.

[FindingMyInnerFish]

I actually think Michelle was swimming faster to get away from me at the far end of the lane!
:joker:

I didn't know you had such a performance enhancing effect! May I borrow you next time I'm in a meet? I can use all the :help: I can get! :laugh2:

I can't report impressive times right now, but I'm happy to say that my training is starting to "regrow" following that nasty flu virus described in an earlier thread. This past Sunday I made it to 2750 yards (a post-illness distance PR, not up to where I was yet but getting there); later that same day, I ran six miles. (Also training for Philly's Broad Street Run.)

So, step by step.... BabsVa, congrats on your progress. I started to get the flip turn but somehow lost the technique, so have to recover that again eventually. I know exactly what you mean about butterfly. Mine isn't pretty but when I can get a full length of the pool doing it, it's always a reason to celebrate.

And congrats to all on your super times and training! :applaud:

[imspoiled]

Way to go BabsVa! Great work, especially the fly! Getting the first length done is the hard part. Now, rest & repeat!

Kyra, nice times. We should all swim so well when not feeling our best.

Mswimming--I'm with you on the 100 IM. Coolest race in the pool. Since it's only a 25 breast, you just have to kill the competition on the first half, then it looks like you're being modest by letting the pack gain some ground on the breast. :laugh2:

Dana

[Mswimming]

This is appropriate for masters swimming. A year ago I was diagnosed with High blood pressure. I think it was 150/110 or something like that. Anyway I've been to the doctor a few times since then and while it has shown improvement it was high each visit.

However last night it was normal for the first time. 120/80. And my heart rate was 56. :groovy:

Just hearing the word normal felt good.

[Peter Cruise]

Mswimming- that is great news, must be a load off your mind.

[Mswimming]

Mswimming- that is great news, must be a load off your mind.

It sure is.

[islandsox]

Way to go MS swimming; getting lab numbers down isn't as easy as swimming a mile, or two, or three....

donna

[islandsox]

Well, I'm happy. I'm swimming 4 miles non-stop every day with 1 day off a week and no ice required for previously injured shoulder. And I am getting tan on my backside at the same time, white on the front, tan on the back. And I can still walk and talk afterwards; not trashed. Yipee!! Now I only have to do that about times 5 to get to Utila!! Baby steps.....

donna

[The Fortress]

Mswimming--I'm with you on the 100 IM. Coolest race in the pool. Since it's only a 25 breast, you just have to kill the competition on the first half, then it looks like you're being modest by letting the pack gain some ground on the breast. :laugh2: Dana

So I see you'll be swimming the 100 IM at zones the same way I will. :rofl: As you say, and as Kevin found out, breaststroke is only a means to get to freestyle -- no matter what SS says. (BTW, are you coming to our poster dinner for zones?)

Donna:

Tan is good. It covers the colorful bits. ;) Attagirl. Keep up the good mileage and pain free status!

[Peter Cruise]

Donna- you are an inspiration to the rest of us.

[BabsVa]

Way to go BabsVa! Great work, especially the fly! Getting the first length done is the hard part. Now, rest & repeat!

Thanks. I am fascinated by the fly and find it beautiful to watch (esp from under water) but here is a story of a good coach - after my exhilarating trip down the length of the pool I was pumped to fly again, and tried to do so but she stopped me halfway - said my form was deteriorating as I became tired and to stop before I hurt myself ;-) Seriously, that kind of advice is appreciated.

[scyfreestyler]

Not for me, but for my daughter..

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