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CoachLaura
July 8th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Can anyone recommend an underwater video camera or where to look to purchase one? Is digital available? Team wants to start taping swimmers but we don't know where to look to buy camera or best one, etc Any tips, ideas, recommendations would be helpful. Thanks

Rob Copeland
July 9th, 2007, 09:15 AM
USMS has a Snooper, underwater camera, rental program. You can try this out to see if you like the set-up.
http://www.usms.org/coach/snooper.php

In addition, Dartswim ( www.dartswim.com ) has a good review of a few cameras, under the resources tab on their web site.

smontanaro
July 9th, 2007, 09:18 AM
A couple of us on our team pooled resources and bought a Coach Cam (http://www.ucca.biz/) recently. It works well. The boom extends to about five feet. From the end at Northwestern's pool (very clear water) it picks up the swimmer from about the midpoint (12-13 yards out). Drop me an email (skip@pobox.com) if you have any specific questions.

Skip Montanaro

bud
July 9th, 2007, 01:13 PM
you might find this thread useful too:
Underwater Camera? (http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?t=1936)
which includes at least one other thread link to:
Swim video tools (http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?t=815)


a friend offered to photo me swimming (from the deck) and while i was checking out the pdf manual for their (digital) Kodak P850 i noticed it has a "burst" mode (which takes a series of shots, like capturing a golf swing, or a full swim stroke cycle). i'm pretty excited about trying this, i think it will be an extremely useful tool for stroke analysis.

anyone have any direct experience they'd like to share on this? (as well as vid camera use, especially the Snooper that has been repeatedly mentioned.)


the USMS Snooper loan/rental (http://www.usms.org/coach/snooper.shtml) sounds like quite a deal.

this Snooper sales page (http://www.zoomers.net/snooper.htm) has a lot more technical info about the camera and its use.

as for capturing the source the options are:
7. Connecting the Video signal: To see what the Snooper is viewing, you must connect the RCA or phono jumper cable plug to a VCR, TV or cam-corder....
(7.B. sounds like a really practical setup)

i reckon with the right vid card you could capture the signal directly to a PC. has anyone tried this?

...

ande
July 9th, 2007, 03:14 PM
The camera my friend used to film my
underwater 50 back / SDK video on yourtube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1h9blJ8Axy0
was the

Olympus 770 SW
It's a rugged little digital camera, it can
go underwater to 33 feet
survive a 5 foot drop and
withstand 220 pounds of pressure.

My wife ordered me one from Amazon
you can see it at:
http://tinyurl.com/3cr79x

it also comes in
Royal Blue http://tinyurl.com/3dj27e
Bronze http://tinyurl.com/2zy58o

Beth also got me a 2 gig memory card
http://tinyurl.com/2hma34

But the best deal might be the KIT package that includes 8 PRODUCTS -- (with all Manufacturer-supplied Accessories and Full USA Warranties)

1. Olympus Stylus 770 SW 7.1 Megapixel Waterproof Digital Camera with 3x Optical Zoom PLUS +
2. Olympus xD-Picture Card Reader/Writer +
3. Spare Li-40B Battery +
4. Digital Camera Case +
5. Digital Image Recovery Software +
6. Memory Card Storage Wallet +
7. Flexible Tabletop Mini Tripod +
8. Microfiber Cleaning Cloth
http://tinyurl.com/yqwsw3

I hope to use mine soon in the pool and I'll put more footage up on youtube.

Ande

bud
July 13th, 2007, 10:33 AM
wow! this camera sounds pretty amazing!

here is the mfg. web
http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/product.asp?product=1287

under the spec's tab i found this:

Sequential Shooting
High speed: 3.5 frames per second up to 12 frames (3MP)
Normal speed: 1.1 frames per second to the card capacity

Movie Mode
AVI Movie with Sound:
640x480/15fps, SHQ;
320x240/15fps, HQ;
160x120/15fps, SQ


640x480/15fps sounds like it would work exceptionally well for stroke analysis. no more of those postage stamp size images to squint at.

the Sequential Shooting (burst mode) options sound really good to.


the size is pretty amazing too:
Size 3.6” W x 2.3” H x 0.8” D (91.8mm x 59.2mm x 20.6mm)
Weight 5.5oz. (155g) without battery and media card


i've found that Quick Time is the best motion pic viewer as it allows you to step through one frame at a time (forwards & backwards) using the arrow keys after you hit pause.

i got a Fuji digital camera about 5yrs ago mainly because it uses the XD pic card, which (at the time anyway) was the most efficient for battery life (i believe it is still true). as i recall the XD was a joint venture between Fuji & Olympus, so they are the only ones that use them.

My Fuji point & shoot has been great, and still takes great digital images. i once owned an Olympus 35mm point & shoot that lasted quite a long time and also took great pics.

tip:
i no longer plug my camera into a pc to get images off of it. for about $10 you can get a thumb drive like device that you can plug your mem. card into, so you simply plug it into a USB port as you would any flash drive. this allows the camera to be more available for taking pics (one person shooting, one person reviewing on a pc). on newer os's (like xp) is is just plug and go (no software to install), so it makes it exceptionally easy to share images on whatever pc you are standing in front of at the time. i find that these card readers are way more compact and versatile than carrying around a cable.

I've seen these at places like Office Depot. the best ones I've see were at Fry's
here is one example:
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4985241?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

ande
July 13th, 2007, 07:06 PM
the olympus is a very impressive little camera
plus if you order it online
you may not have to pay state sales tax depending upon where you live

ande


The camera my friend used to film my
underwater 50 back / SDK video on yourtube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1h9blJ8Axy0
was the

Olympus 770 SW
It's a rugged little digital camera, it can
go underwater to 33 feet
survive a 5 foot drop and
withstand 220 pounds of pressure.

My wife ordered me one from Amazon
you can see it at:
http://tinyurl.com/3cr79x

it also comes in
Royal Blue http://tinyurl.com/3dj27e
Bronze http://tinyurl.com/2zy58o

Beth also got me a 2 gig memory card
http://tinyurl.com/2hma34

But the best deal might be the KIT package that includes 8 PRODUCTS -- (with all Manufacturer-supplied Accessories and Full USA Warranties)

1. Olympus Stylus 770 SW 7.1 Megapixel Waterproof Digital Camera with 3x Optical Zoom PLUS +
2. Olympus xD-Picture Card Reader/Writer +
3. Spare Li-40B Battery +
4. Digital Camera Case +
5. Digital Image Recovery Software +
6. Memory Card Storage Wallet +
7. Flexible Tabletop Mini Tripod +
8. Microfiber Cleaning Cloth
http://tinyurl.com/yqwsw3

I hope to use mine soon in the pool and I'll put more footage up on youtube.

Ande

geochuck
July 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Here is old George in a swim-in-place pool click on the link. The water flow is set at 1250 pressure that is the pace that the better Tri Athletes train at.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-855767930586563967

elojo
November 4th, 2007, 10:12 AM
I realize this is an older thread but I wanted to share what I found.
There is an underwater camera for $275 that does the trick pretty nicely. Here's the link:

http://www.swimcamera.com (http://www.swimcamera.com/)

This is their only product but I know some coaches at Michigan State University and Indiana University are using it and seem pretty happy.

ganache
November 11th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Several years ago I purchased plans for a fish cam for about $25. If you search for 'Lunkercam' you can find it. I built an underwater videocamera for about $100 and then feed the signal into a camcorder held above the water. I got a refurbished camcorder on eBay for about $100. I have been filming the swimmers I coach for a few years. Good luck - I have seen lots of improvement in all of their strokes and turns.