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saracb
July 29th, 2007, 06:58 PM
I have been swimming for almost 2 months about 5 times per week. In the beginning I did mostly freestyle and a little breaststroke but have been taking a class to learn the other strokes. I found out my breaststroke technique was off and am revamping it. I can do backstroke but am still refining technique a bit. I am learning butterfly - learned dolphin kick this past week.
My question is about how to spend my time at the pool. I have been spending about 45 minutes in the past month. I warm up with a little freestyle. Then I spend about 10-15 minutes each on backstroke, breaststroke, and butterfly (aka dolphin kick right now). Is that a good idea? Or should I devote entire workouts to one stroke at a time? I think that could work better - I would have more time to get the technique down. But I worry I will lose something if I don't maintain a little every day. Any suggestions? Should I spend more time in the pool?
Thanks -

Mausy
July 29th, 2007, 11:28 PM
I would recommend that you take a look at the workout section of this forum as well as search the forum for beginner workouts. Your question has been discussed in great detail in other threads.

Mausy
July 29th, 2007, 11:37 PM
I realize that my last reply sounded a bit harsh. I did a search for you and found some great replies. Just go to http://forums.usms.org/search.php?searchid=52732

I would also suggest you join a Masters team. Good luck to you.

geochuck
July 29th, 2007, 11:38 PM
Get the technique down for all the strokes you want to swim. Best source is a swim coach who knows the strokes. We can do the warm ups using all the strokes. Get the feel for the water and swim. Some like to do drills, but I believe in swimming whole strokes.

Blackbeard's Peg
July 30th, 2007, 12:18 AM
Sara,

don't worry about having to maintain something every day. your body isn't going to forget how to swim breaststroke over the course of three days if you decide to do some massive amounts of freestyle for a couple consecutive days.

it helps to set some goals and then cater your pooltime accordingly. Are you looking to swim for a set period of time (ie 1hr swim), open water swim, pool meet, etc? For example, 2 months ago, I was prepping for some open water swims and a pair of long distance pool races, so I did very little strokework, focusing mostly on long distance freestyle. What are you looking to do?

inklaire
July 30th, 2007, 01:37 AM
Get the technique down for all the strokes you want to swim. Best source is a swim coach who knows the strokes. We can do the warm ups using all the strokes. Get the feel for the water and swim. Some like to do drills, but I believe in swimming whole strokes.

I'm curious, but how does one actually find a coach?

geochuck
July 30th, 2007, 02:28 AM
Ink

The fastest way is to go here http://www.swimmersguide.com/ the swimmers guide. Go to the city you live in find the local pools and see if they have a swim club. Swim clubs have coaches, some good some bad. If you are not a good swimmer even a bad coach can help.

FindingMyInnerFish
July 30th, 2007, 07:04 AM
You might also want to look at the list of club websites (http://www.usms.org/links/usmsclubs.php) on the USMS site. These are listed by state, so you can check out those in your area to see what they have.

Also www.swimplan.com gives you workouts based on info that you enter, such as times for certain distances (100, 200, etc.), resting pulse, etc. Swimplan also gives you workouts based on what strokes you want to include, as well as the equipment you'll be using, such as kickboards, fins, etc.

Good luck and enjoy!

saracb
July 30th, 2007, 09:17 AM
I apologize - I am usually good about searching before asking, but I dropped the ball this time thinking the workouts were more for people who are proficient with the strokes...
I appreciate the advice and I will look more at the workouts section. I think the coach idea is good - I am in a class now but having more individual attention would help. And I would like to join masters at some point when I am a little further along.






I would recommend that you take a look at the workout section of this forum as well as search the forum for beginner workouts. Your question has been discussed in great detail in other threads.

geochuck
July 30th, 2007, 09:37 AM
Some master clubs have some complete beginners. I have visited many where some could barely swim a length of the pool. So don't be shy. Give a city where you live and some one may be able to make a suggestion. If you lived in Yellownife NWT there is a swim club there and that is 20 miles from the Tundra (perma frost).

saracb
July 30th, 2007, 10:09 AM
Thanks - I live in the Chicago area and have been swimming at Northwestern. I know they have a masters group and I was going to check out a practice at some point. I do want a group that will allow me to keep learning and I don't want to do freestyle all the time (nothing against triathletes, but i like the variety of swimming).
I appreciate any advice -

smontanaro
July 30th, 2007, 10:24 AM
Sara,

I swim with the NASA masters group at Northwestern. We do have some complete beginners, so don't feel at all shy about trying the group out. There are noon and evening workouts three days a week as well as Saturday mornings. Drop me a note (skip@pobox.com) and I'll put you in touch with our fearless leader, Pam Smith.

(edit) Let me add something else. Pam is very good about adjusting the workouts to the needs of individual swimmers. One fellow who's a new swimmer with us and a complete beginniner seems to swim something completely different than the rest of us, something I assume Pam has tailored to his needs. I've been training for the USMS postal swims this summer so she understands that sometimes I am going to do something else when the workout calls for 3x200IM. Also, as we age our bodies ache in different ways. Some days I can do a little fly, some days not. Some days my knees hurt so I stay away from breaststroke. yadda yadda yadda...

Skip Montanaro

geochuck
July 30th, 2007, 10:28 AM
The reason I would never workout with a masters group is they do all strokes during a workout. They do drills for all strokes, I do not do drills. I am sure almost any masters club would fill your needs at this time.

JennyS
July 30th, 2007, 12:08 PM
Another piece of advice: The coaches are there to help you improve your swimming. Don't be afraid to ask the coach for a little individual help if you want them to check something out. Sometimes it is hard for them to give personal advice to every swimmer during a workout, but if you just ask they are almost always more than happy to watch your stroke and help you out.

inklaire
August 3rd, 2007, 10:35 PM
Ink

The fastest way is to go here http://www.swimmersguide.com/ the swimmers guide. Go to the city you live in find the local pools and see if they have a swim club. Swim clubs have coaches, some good some bad. If you are not a good swimmer even a bad coach can help.

Bad coaches don't like to work with bad swimmers. I think we're just too much of a challenge!

My experience of swim clubs is that "All levels of swimmer" means many different things to many different people.