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renie
August 23rd, 2007, 04:21 PM
After a horrid heat wave, our weather in NJ is now in the 60's, rainy, cloudy and miserable. The outdoor pool I swim in is 68 degrees! I don't own a wetsuit. Any advice on swimming outside in this cold water? I usually swim 4000 yards so by about 1000 yards, my bones and muscles start to chill. I do prefer cooler water temps - in the mid 70's, but this is tough, since the air temp is so cool. The air temperature is supposed to go up to 90 in two days, which should raise water to about 70-72. Thanks for any advice!

Shaman
August 23rd, 2007, 04:32 PM
Not a heated pool? That's freezing.

Swim fast and kick a TON.

aquageek
August 23rd, 2007, 05:43 PM
Outdoor pools here have been 90+ for the past month, don't complain.

scyfreestyler
August 23rd, 2007, 06:10 PM
Move.

msgrupp
August 23rd, 2007, 06:15 PM
Same problem here in PA except I swim in the evening so NO sun to warm up the water AND we're got the sun setting shortly after 8pm (for an 8pm start time).

Municipal pool--not heated but 50 meters. They're looking to replace it with a heated pool and we're PRAYING that we still get a 50 meter pool instead of some kind of water park. It's a community pool NOT an area pool.

JennyS
August 23rd, 2007, 06:41 PM
The only outdoor pools that were not heated that I've ever been in were at hotels and apartment complexes. They really make outdoor lap pools without heating? Is this an east coast thing? Do they get covered at night? Brrr... makes me to shiver just thinking about swimming in the cold in a cold pool.

jim clemmons
August 23rd, 2007, 06:42 PM
Wear two caps.

nyswimmer
August 23rd, 2007, 07:16 PM
The only outdoor pools that were not heated that I've ever been in were at hotels and apartment complexes. They really make outdoor lap pools without heating? Is this an east coast thing? Do they get covered at night? Brrr... makes me to shiver just thinking about swimming in the cold in a cold pool.

Outdoor pools in the NY/NJ area are generally open for only two months of the year (July and August) when it can get really hot. So the pool operators don't see the need for heating.

I have the same problem as renie -- my facility's indoor pool has been closed all summer for renovations (due to reopen in about a week :) ) and our outdoor pool is freezing after four or five days of cold rainy weather.

msgrupp
August 23rd, 2007, 10:46 PM
When the pool was built about 30 years ago the decision to not heat it was done due to budget considerations. It is a municipal pool (not a private pool) and the community didn't see the need to heat it. It is a 50 meter pool with either 8 or 9 lanes, a diving well and a shallow area (pool is Z shaped).

the pool opens in May for the high school swim team (they wear wet suits), and to the public on Memorial Day. The pool closes on Labor Day. As luck would have it--we generally have another 2-3 weeks of VERY warm weather where an outdoor pool would be welcome. The other problem is a lack of lighting in both the pool and the grounds. Very hard to swim late at night (meaning 8pm-9pm) in the dark.

The pool is scheduled to be replaced in about 1-2 years. It is an aluminum pool and has outlived its' expected lifetime. More than likely--the next pool will be heated. All that means is that when the community starts swimming on Memorial Day--the pool will be warm. What we're hoping is that the little blue-haired ladies don't start complaining that the pool is "too cold" and the operators then zoom the temp up to the high 80s. It's one thing to swim in the high 80s due to NATURAL heating vs someone playing with the thermostat!

dorothyrde
August 24th, 2007, 08:48 AM
I hope you don't get a water park. That is what happened here, no more 50 meter pool.

renie
August 24th, 2007, 09:01 AM
Not a heated pool? That's freezing.

Swim fast and kick a TON.

Not heated, which I am happy for, because it would exceed 100 in July. I would swim fast if I could. I start out feeling ok, then within 1/2 hour or so, muscles start to feel R E A L L Y H E A V Y and it's like swimming through sand after awhile. Now if it were 90 out, I could handle it. But 60, rainy and cloudy? Brutal.

SwimStud
August 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM
Our outdoor pool decided to close at 6 because nobody showed up for open swim. Needless to say I was not happy at 6:30 when I had to go inside to the 25Y pool, which was mobbed. Trying to swim 7x500's is a real burden in there...I lost count and got dizzy from all the flipturns...

renie
August 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM
Same problem here in PA except I swim in the evening so NO sun to warm up the water AND we're got the sun setting shortly after 8pm (for an 8pm start time).

Municipal pool--not heated but 50 meters. They're looking to replace it with a heated pool and we're PRAYING that we still get a 50 meter pool instead of some kind of water park. It's a community pool NOT an area pool.

Where in PA? I'm in NJ. There is one advantage -- in the evening, the water has warmed up a bit. Good luck with your new pool.

aquageek
August 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM
I lost count and got dizzy from all the flipturns...

Ah, good news, you are flipping now.h

SwimStud
August 24th, 2007, 09:06 AM
Our outdoor pool decided to close at 6 because nobody showed up for open swim. Needless to say I was not happy at 6:30 when I had to go inside to the 25Y pool, which was mobbed. Trying to swim 7x500's is a real burden in there...I lost count and got dizzy from all the flipturns...

PLUS it was cold and I wanted a cold swim to get used to the feel for OW.

aquageek
August 24th, 2007, 09:07 AM
I lost count and got dizzy from all the flipturns...

Ah, good news, you are flipping now.

SwimStud
August 24th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Ah, good news, you are flipping now.

beautifully too I might add...I just don't push off hard if it is for OW distance conditioning...

renie
August 24th, 2007, 09:55 AM
the pool opens in May for the high school swim team (they wear wet suits), and to the public on Memorial Day. The pool closes on Labor Day. As luck would have it--we generally have another 2-3 weeks of VERY warm weather where an outdoor pool would be welcome.

Isn't that the truth? Here we are freezing, and once our outdoor unheated pools close, we will have weeks of "Indian" summer--hot, humid and hazy days where we are forced to swim indoors in overheated indoor pools.


The pool is scheduled to be replaced in about 1-2 years. It is an aluminum pool and has outlived its' expected lifetime. More than likely--the next pool will be heated. All that means is that when the community starts swimming on Memorial Day--the pool will be warm. What we're hoping is that the little blue-haired ladies don't start complaining that the pool is "too cold" and the operators then zoom the temp up to the high 80s. It's one thing to swim in the high 80s due to NATURAL heating vs someone playing with the thermostat!

Don't get me started on this! Those little old ladies control every college/YMCA/gym I have ever swam in over the last 20 years! I start out in a pool where the temp is 78-80 max, and somehow it ends up with the heat cranked up to 85 and the water 82-83. It is horrific to really push iunder such conditions. Yet put me outside in 82 degree water and I'm ok under the blue sky, clear air and gentle breezes. No comparison. If I were rich, I would open a workout pool that was never above 78! I paid good money to join a gym - my contract states the lap pool is to be maintained at 78. There is a therapy pool and a hot tub. The "Aqua" classes are supposed to be in the therapy pool but many of the seniors say it is too hot, so they use the lap pool, then complain it's too cold! What does management do? Crank up the temp in the lap pool! I've been disputing this for years - finally, thanks to Masters Swim members, they've at least compromised with 80 - one less degree and it would be optimal. IMO, 80 is too hot indoors with the heater at full blast.

Slowswim
August 24th, 2007, 10:55 AM
I have a wetsuit (sleeveless) and use it any time the temp drops below 78. I hate being cold. I've swam in 90+ and prefer it. I don't like the feeling I'm sweating in the water, but I don't have to get in the whirlpool or sauna to stop shivering.

I grow up in the south and have never gotten climatized to cool/cold weather/temps.

I second the "move" idea.

3strokes
August 24th, 2007, 04:51 PM
I hate being cold. I've swam in 90+ and prefer it.
I grow up in the south and have never gotten climatized to cool/cold weather/temps.



Ditto here.

You grew up in, more or less, latitude 33.76 N (Atlanta's coordinates).
I grew up 3+ degrees (deeper) South of you (Cairo 30.02 N)

renie
August 24th, 2007, 05:32 PM
The only outdoor pools that were not heated that I've ever been in were at hotels and apartment complexes. They really make outdoor lap pools without heating? Is this an east coast thing? Do they get covered at night? Brrr... makes me to shiver just thinking about swimming in the cold in a cold pool.

Yes, they really make outdoor pools without heat. No, they are not covered at night. But, it does get pretty hot in July, June is ok, August usually hot as well. No need for heat, or water would go up to 90+ which is almost as bad as 68! It's ironic - in Florida when I go there in mid-October, all their pools are so hot! They heat them in Florida where it's hot year round. Makes no sense to me.:shakeshead:

renie
August 24th, 2007, 05:33 PM
Move.


to?:confused:

nkfrench
August 24th, 2007, 05:55 PM
There are very few pools here (Ft Worth, TX) that are outdoors + heated. Dallas has the Cooper Clinic pool; some friends have backyard pools. Most of the pools just are open between Memorial Day and Labor Day. My swim team starts in them in early May and finishes around October. So water temps vary between 76 and 88. The pools are not covered.

We don't have sunlight as much as in the Northern states during the summer, so the May and September workouts are also pretty much in the dark mornings & evenings. That makes the water even cooler. June, July, August are fine.

In order to heat my own 16yard backyard pool I would have to leave the gas heater on 24/7. Last I checked that costs about $10/hour and will raise the water temp about 1F/hour. So I don't run it except to use the hottub or if there is a hard freeze, happens about 1x/year. Water temps tend to be the average of the daily high:low.

Most swimming is just done indoors during the school year.

nyswimmer
August 24th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Yes, they really make outdoor pools without heat. No, they are not covered at night. But, it does get pretty hot in July, June is ok, August usually hot as well. No need for heat, or water would go up to 90+ which is almost as bad as 68! It's ironic - in Florida when I go there in mid-October, all their pools are so hot! They heat them in Florida where it's hot year round. Makes no sense to me.:shakeshead:

My (outdoor) pool has gone up to around 90 a couple of times this summer, without being heated (except by the sun) -- not this past week though. :sad:

Slowswim
August 24th, 2007, 08:02 PM
Ditto here.

You grew up in, more or less, latitude 33.76 N (Atlanta's coordinates).
I grew up 3+ degrees (deeper) South of you (Cairo 30.02 N)

I'm not from here. I'm from 28 82 (Clearwater FL). Atlanta is way too far north for me to call home. Any place above the frost line is unhuman and insane.

Every time I drive on I-75 and see the line of people coming down, I never ask why; but, what took you so long.
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knelson
August 25th, 2007, 01:13 AM
The outdoor 50 m pool I swim in is heated, but they put covers on at night. I'm sure the initial cost outlay to cover a 50 meter by 20 or 25 yard pool is substantial, but I bet they pay for themselves in no time. Especially around here where nighttime lows are typically in the mid 50s even in the middle of the summer.

The pool is only open from Memorial Day through Labor Day (with one extra bonus weekend after Labor Day). The weather is usually good in September, but I suspect staffing becomes a problem. I wish they could keep it open for weekends only a few weeks longer, though, but I'll take what I can get. I'm always sad to see the pool close each year :(

talne621
August 25th, 2007, 06:42 PM
I am in New Jersey. It is really cold. Outdoor pools probably will not warm up after the cold now. Most close in another week or 2. Also, most of the indoor pools that I know are closed for their yearly renovations.

~Patti~
August 25th, 2007, 07:45 PM
I'm feeling quite lucky! Our outdoor 50 m pool is heated so it isn't too bad though did get cold with the cool days last weekend/early this week. Our Y also has 2 indoor pools open during the summer. One is kept cool for lap swimming and the other is at about 86 degrees for the blue haired ladies! So, its pretty much the best of all worlds. Definitely feeling quite lucky.

dorothyrde
August 26th, 2007, 08:22 AM
The outdoor pool I swim in is not heated. Mighty cold in June, and awful hot just a few weeks ago. Last week it was finally getting back down to the low 80's and was pleasant. Last night was in the 50's, so todays swim might be brisk. It closes Labor Day, so back in doors after that.