View Full Version : 1650 Top 10 qualifying question

jim thornton
January 20th, 2003, 11:10 PM
In order for a 1650 to be considered for possible Top 10 ranking, does it have to be swum within the context of a USMS-sanctioned meet? The reason I ask is that there is a 1650 meet next weekend here in Pittsburgh, at the Carnegie Mellon University pool, a wonderful facility that is used in collegiate swimming meets and I am sure meets all the requirements (i.e, exactly 25 yards, right depth, etc.) that are necessary for USMS sanctioning.

This said, however, I am pretty sure this is not a USMS certified meet. Does this mean that any times--even if proven accurate via an electronic timing system--won't count for Top 10 consideration?

If there is some way to get this meet to "count"--can someone out there let me know what hoops I need to jump through to submit my time?

Thanks in advance.

January 20th, 2003, 11:26 PM

Look up and read article 202.2 in part 2 of the rule book (http://www.usms.org/rules/part2.pdf). This is the section that deals with recognized events. If the event isn't a sanctioned USMS event, it can still be recognized provided it meets all the requirements and procedures as detailed in this section. Some events are recognized instead of being sanctioned because they are held by a non-USMS body and include swimmers who are not USMS registered (e.g. Y Nationals, New York's Empire State Games, National Senior Games). You do need to make sure the event gets recognition status BEFORE the meet takes place and that an LMSC observer is there to be sure our rules are followed. Also be sure to follow up with your LMSC top ten recorder to make sure your times are submitted.

Have a good swim at my Alma Mater. I still haven't made it back to swim in their new pool and I'm far too out of shape to consider driving down next week for a 1650!

jim thornton
January 20th, 2003, 11:40 PM
Thanks, Jim. I will send out an email to some of the more knowledgable fellows associated with this 1650 meet and see what can happen. On another note, I'd like to submit my 1 hour postal swim results, also from the great CMU pool. I sent in my registration form and money to the new LMSC guy back in the fall, I am pretty sure, but I have yet to get my new card. I emailed this fellow and he wrote me back saying he thinks he has my materials but is still getting used to the new computer system, and it may be several weeks before I can get my 2003 card. I emailed him back and asked him to hurry so I could send in the postal meet, but he never wrote back. Any suggestions on this front as well?

Thanks again for the info regarding the 1650. Do you know any people in these parts who could be a certified, sanctioned, or otherwise kosher-stamped observer?

Rob Copeland
January 21st, 2003, 08:24 AM
The USMS web site lists Stan Prazer as your LMSC Sanction Chair. Stan is responsible for issuing Sanctions and Recognitions for events in your area. I did not see an email address listed for him, but the web site lists his phone number as (814)868-6904. You can check with Stan and the meet host to see if they can work something out.

As for the delayed registration, I have emailed Anna Lea Roof (USMS Registration Chair) and asked her to see if she can help.