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January 1st, 2008, 02:02 PM
Since my recent avatar picture is the turn, I figure I'd might as well share my 2 cents on the subject.

Coming into the wall your head and torso should attempt to line up with a 45 degree angle to the back wall and bottom of the pool. (Keeping hips, legs, and feet close to the surface) This deeper upper-body position makes it much easier to get the hips and feet "spinning" over the top. As soon as the hips have crossed the "tipping" point, then your head and torso should go immediately in the opposite direction (closer to the surface) while your feet land on the wall in a semi-extended state. (See the picture)

jim thornton
January 1st, 2008, 03:38 PM
Hi, Jonathan--when I went to view picture, it took me to your web site but I couldn't find a picture.

It would be nice if this forum made it possible to include pix right in the post. Verbal descriptions of body motions in three dimensions are incredibly hard for me to picture.

January 1st, 2008, 06:24 PM
Hey JIM!!!

Ummm, I just meant the avatar picture...
but check this www.poetryofmotion.com (http://www.poetryofmotion.com)


Do you think the magazine would like this?

The Swim

Streamlining in a cool fluid flow,
With only air and water to soothe the senses,
Becoming entirely present through this rhythmic motion,
As past tension transmutes into current reflections,
Nothing now but sweet submission to this aqueous moment.


January 1st, 2008, 06:39 PM
Hey Jim,

What do you think of this article?
Watch the video first...


side view

front view

Stefan Nystrand

That is incredible, I've never seen anything quite like
this before!! What a perfect example of a totally unique
stroke, a bizarre phenomena that might not ever become
mainstream swimming philosophy.

I mean, it would be near to impossible to try and mimic
this stroke pattern, not to mention, how could someone
actually describe this appropriately in words...???!!

Attempting the impossible, just for the sheer need of
understanding, how could I let this opportunity "swim"

His mix of technical variables are somewhat shocking,
and trying to describe his kick pattern combined with
his torso and pulling action is a slightly daunting task.

I mean, this appears to be a hybrid swimming stroke,
combining elements of butterfly and freestyle, with very
little semblance of previously accepted principals. This
may be the new "stroke" or just something that works
solely for this man.

Personally, I'm not willing to risk everything by endorsing
this stroke, but I will not disappoint by trying my best to
explain it.

His windmill action above water has been seen before, not
a complete shock, but it is when we look under-water that
I'm completely flabbergasted...

All the concepts I've known about sprint freestyle are almost
completely contrary with Stefan Nystrand.

Where should I start?

1. He bounces through his stroke, a tighter version of
the body dolphin action, during freestyle??!!

2. He swims "uphill", totally bizzare, but this is what I'm seeing.
You can even pause his stroke in the 25 meter under water angle,
and the result is uncanny. It appears that he rotates from side to side,
so fast, that the resistance from his body position is mitigated.

3. His "catch" stays near the surface, and he begins pulling
immediately, he doesn't wait for his forearm to be perpendicular to
the bottom of the pool. ***GASP*** Instead, he almost drops his
elbow, and pulls at 45 degrees, in exchange for faster tempo, and
the body dolphin.

4. His kick, ummmmm, his kick... What is that? A four-beat freestyle/dolphin blend????!!!????!!!!

Okay folks, not sure what else to say, except.... WOW!

January 1st, 2008, 10:37 PM
Better underwater footage of his style:


January 2nd, 2008, 12:44 AM
Hi Lindsay!!

That video is good and fast...
This is the one I was watching when I wrote the article...

plus, this one is a "must" see

Incredible how the "Inspirational" post has gone up and up... eh?
I was surprised, so I linked it directly on my signature, just for good

PS Thanks again on your video comparisons of butterfly, it's
really helped my times... butterfly has not been my strength...
Getting my head and torso deeper at the top of the stroke while
keeping my hips and kick "elevated" through-out, this seems to be the
key... This, combined with the breastroke should really help my IM...

Also, writing a new "exclusive" motivational article for mymsc is
on my "to do" list...