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ande
January 14th, 2008, 04:12 PM
Interesting race club thread
Gary Hall Jr made some bold statements
some of our regulars commenting there
http://www.theraceclub.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1319

what do you think?

hofffam
January 15th, 2008, 02:09 PM
GH Jr. is usually a fun read. He makes a good point about USS.

thewookiee
January 15th, 2008, 03:18 PM
Brings up an interesting point about AVD and BALCO as well.

Blackbeard's Peg
January 15th, 2008, 04:34 PM
Brings up an interesting point about AVD and BALCO as well.

Yes, interesting...
I recall 2 years ago seeing a certain USMS sandbagger aquaintence "bragging" about how she all of a sudden had asthma and was sucking down on an inhaler before a rinkydink meet (wearing a fastskin too). Further interesting, how there was a lot of mysterious weight loss in the subsequent months, as well as time drops.

stillwater
January 15th, 2008, 06:54 PM
While racing in my college days, I was dismayed at the number of swimmers who claimed to have asthma. There was one who had a gizmo to deliver the Albutrol(?) in large doses. It reminded me of a bong. (not that I know what that is)

I always felt that they were cheaters, but I'm over it.

I never tried inhalers before a race. Anyone out there tried it?

gull
January 17th, 2008, 01:20 PM
I posted this on a thread here back in 2004--

Now that Barry Bonds' and Jason Giambi's grand jury testimony in the BALCO case has become public, I wonder if and when we'll find out what Amy Van Dyken testified at her appearance.

My suspicion is that she received some sort of immunity in exchange for her testimony, which remains sealed.

blainesapprentice
January 17th, 2008, 01:40 PM
While racing in my college days, I was dismayed at the number of swimmers who claimed to have asthma. There was one who had a gizmo to deliver the Albutrol(?) in large doses. It reminded me of a bong. (not that I know what that is)

I always felt that they were cheaters, but I'm over it.

I never tried inhalers before a race. Anyone out there tried it?

That gizmo that resembles a bong is not to deliver Albuterol in larger dosages. It's called an aero-chamber and they give it to a lot of first time inhaler users, but recently a lot of doctors/ pulmonary specialists have been recommending every continue using them. They do two things that are one in the same: 1. The medicine is dispensed into the chamber and then as the person inhales brought into the airway--this prevents the dosage from being completely wasted on the back of the persons throat and helps direct the medicine into the lungs better. 2. By doing using the air chamber you are encourage longer, slower intake of the medication--which is recommended--and allowing the medication to be taken deeply into the lungs rather than just the quick inhalation that is often made when using the inhaler directly which doesn't allow one to fully receive the dosing.

I use an aero-chamber.


On my college team we have one other girl and me with actual diagnosed asthma, and there are 3 boys I believe. My asthma is more of a conditional asthma in that the only times I ever need to use my inhalers is during indoor swimming. I have a super sensitivity to chlorine and my lungs produce a lot of mucus and constrict when exposed to chlorine--primarily in the air. I don't have as much of a problem at newer indoor pools where ventilation systems were taken into consideration--but at my college pool which is a 4-lane hole in the ground, there is little to no ventilation and I have struggled with chemical induced bronchitis and pneumonia each season I've been here.

I don't think most people would get a big boost from using an inhaler before swimming or racing. I might be wrong but for me I almost think it is a psychological thing. I use my inhaler religiously 30minutes before swim practice (which is imperative at my pool) and before a meet. Just using the inhaler at the meet gives me some peace of mind, but, I don't actually think in the long run, hours after using my inhaler it has any effect on my swimming. I mean, the difference obviously is that I have a medical reason for using an inhaler, so I can't really say for someone without asthma how big of a boost it might give you--but the dosages of actual inhalers are so low I'm just not sure. A nebulizer usage before a meet however, that would I guarentee open any, and everyone up and would probably be a boost of some degree to whoever used it. However, they're big and bulky and make a lot of noise and probably not worth the trouble of bringing to the pool deck with you:-).