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Posted October 26th, 2009 at 04:15 PM by The Fortress
Updated November 5th, 2009 at 12:04 PM by The Fortress
Run:

Went for a 5 mile zen run today. Perfect fall weather!


Videos from Sprint Classic:

Here are the meet results: http://www.patriotmasters.org/Sprint...limResults.htm

I was lucky enough to have Speedo and SwimStud tape my 50 fly and Swimmy tape the final heat of the women's 50 back. And I must say, they revealed all my technical difficulties! lol

On the 50 back, my underwater on the second 25 was better than my first 25 -- somewhat unusual for me. On the first 25, I broke out with my head at an angle instead of leaning back. I recall this moment. I had done 13-14 dolphin kicks and was thinking that I better get the hell to the surface fast. But I thought my turn looked decent.

On the 50 fly, I took a HUGE look at my nearby competitor. 100 lashes, though I do note some acceleration after that look. My breakouts looked a little rocky as well. And my start ... well, that was my worst one of the meet and I made a lot of noise. lol And yes, I was wearing a B70 and my chief competitor (former secret nemesis was AWOL) was not, but I was old enough to be her mom.

Here's the final 50 back heat of Team Hottub Ladies, most of whom are illustrious top ten backstrokers and good swim buddies:

Lane 3, Barbara Clifford-Dicks
Lane 4, Fort
Lane 5, SwimmieAvsFan
Lane 6, Julie-Mulie Oplinger Roddin
Lane 7, Swimshark


Barb and SwimmieAvsFan have been really working on their SDKs and I think it really shows!

And here's the 50 fly taped by Speedo:


If you look closely, you can see Stud in his itsby bitsy teeny weeny Speedo brief on the other side of the pool taping.

The 50 fly from the other side of the pool taped by Stud:


Sore neck:

My neck is pretty sore today. I noticed a twinge in the right side after the evilstroke start. So it was either caused by: (1) so many starts, (2) checking out the competition, or (3) swiveling my head to check out the cute guys in the hottub (Eney's suggestion, lol). I would have liked to go for a slow swim this afternoon and sit in the hottub, but it's a no go with too much to do. Tomorrow hopefully.
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    qbrain's Avatar
    Nice finish on the fly.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 04:30 PM by qbrain qbrain is offline
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    JimRude's Avatar
    Fly start a little flat on the entry. While I am a practitioner of the old skool grab start and no expert on the new wave track start (as "invented" by Rowdy), I would suggest trying to get your head up slightly at the start, which should get your legs and feet up, too, for a cleaner entry. YMMV. However, I am always fastest off the blocks...
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 05:26 PM by JimRude JimRude is offline
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    pwolf66's Avatar
    Jim, while getting her head up at the start would promote what you say, she needs to work on exploding her hands forward and then getting into a tight streamline position with her head tucked between her hands. THAT more than anything will promote a good entry angle. And OH MY GOD do I look like a dork in that picture.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 05:36 PM by pwolf66 pwolf66 is offline
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    JimRude's Avatar
    Hands up and forward, then head follows, then torso, then legs.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 05:44 PM by JimRude JimRude is offline
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    Mswimming's Avatar
    Looks great to me. Congratulations on the fast swims.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 05:56 PM by Mswimming Mswimming is offline
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    The Fortress's Avatar
    Thanks so much for the tips, guys! I wish I had you on deck to work on these. I'm going to try to do some every Thursday from now on. I think my starts got better as the day wore on. I was really focusing on exploding my hands on the 25s. However, the good entry angle has long been elusive for me.

    Should my head be about where my competitor's was in the 50 fly? She probably would have beat me if she hadn't breathed 10 x.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 05:57 PM by The Fortress The Fortress is offline
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    Originally Posted by Mswimming
    Looks great to me. Congratulations on the fast swims.
    Thank you! I appreciate it. I know I have lots of technical things to work on, and much of this is difficult swimming solo. So it's nice to have encouragement along the way.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 05:59 PM by The Fortress The Fortress is offline
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    Hmm, I wonder if I could talk to the folks at Spring Hill and convince them to let us use the blocks there? I'm a USA-S coach, Fort is USA-S registered so liability is covered there. Hmm...
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 06:08 PM by pwolf66 pwolf66 is offline
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    Fort, I'll download the video and sometime this week break it down frame by frame.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 06:09 PM by pwolf66 pwolf66 is offline
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    Hmm, I wonder if I could talk to the folks at Spring Hill and convince them to let us use the blocks there? I'm a USA-S coach, Fort is USA-S registered so liability is covered there. Hmm...
    They say it's a country regulation that you can't use the blocks.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 06:19 PM by The Fortress The Fortress is offline
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    Fort, I'll download the video and sometime this week break it down frame by frame.
    Thanks! I need tips on my fly breakouts too. Is this a function of not having my kick count down or is it something else? Starting the breakout too soon or too late? The backstroke breakout issue is much easier to correct by just thinking about keeping the head back.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 06:20 PM by The Fortress The Fortress is offline
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    Actually I think a better thought would be to press your shoulder blades against the water. I thought about it a bit more and I think it's not so much your head that's the issue, it's that you're not pressing your shoulders down on the water.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 06:23 PM by pwolf66 pwolf66 is offline
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    Nice swims Leslie. Good turnover and turns. So did you feel like the sprint specific training has helped? And that the 5 day taper was enough?
    I'm going to have to talk to Bobby about adding 25's to the DAM meet in February-sounds fun. Still not sure how to swim a 25 Breast fast. Maybe I'm too tall, but my body doesn't move that fast doing that stroke.
    Thanks for posting. You're helping me get motivated.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 06:28 PM by kwhenderson kwhenderson is offline
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    Originally Posted by pwolf66 View Comment
    Actually I think a better thought would be to press your shoulder blades against the water. I thought about it a bit more and I think it's not so much your head that's the issue, it's that you're not pressing your shoulders down on the water.
    Good point. I think that this was part of the Eddie Reese tip that Ande reported awhile ago. I think I did this pretty well on my 50 back start at LC Nats.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 06:45 PM by The Fortress The Fortress is offline
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    Nice swims Leslie. Good turnover and turns. So did you feel like the sprint specific training has helped? And that the 5 day taper was enough?
    I'm going to have to talk to Bobby about adding 25's to the DAM meet in February-sounds fun. Still not sure how to swim a 25 Breast fast. Maybe I'm too tall, but my body doesn't move that fast doing that stroke.
    Thanks for posting. You're helping me get motivated.
    Thanks! I think the sprint specific training helped, especially on the 25s.

    A 5 day taper is just a mini-taper. Plus, I did lift the week before, which I usually don't do before a meet. Definitely NOT enough for a good rest. The last year or so, I've done well with a 2-3 week taper. It takes forever to rest the legs when you're beating up on them all the time with kicking, weights, plyos, etc.

    Hope you can get 25s added to your meet. They're definitely drop dead sprinter heaven.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 07:21 PM by The Fortress The Fortress is offline
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    quicksilver's Avatar
    That 50 back looked superb. You work that 15 meters right to the cut-off!

    KPN is in for some good competition. Nice 50 fly too!
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 09:02 PM by quicksilver quicksilver is offline
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    That 50 back looked superb. You work that 15 meters right to the cut-off!

    KPN is in for some good competition. Nice 50 fly too!
    Thanks, Quick. I did space out on the start for just a second and then realize I had to get up quick. That may be the furthest I've gone on the second length. It's starting to feel pretty natural now after feeling like I was struggling with backstroke SDks for a long time. The nose clip made all the difference! (Although Bill White insists I don't really need it. :-P)

    Did you think I flipped too far away from the wall? That's what my kid just told me.
    Posted October 26th, 2009 at 11:19 PM by The Fortress The Fortress is offline
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    Ahelee Sue Osborn's Avatar
    My FAVORITE part of the 50 Fly clip is when you look at the chick next to you! Just like a little 7 year old

    As our great MVN age-group swim guru says, "bottom has to be the top when you set for the dive".

    I ALWAYS have to think of that on the blocks...

    FORT - you so are freekin strong & fast!
    Posted October 27th, 2009 at 02:07 AM by Ahelee Sue Osborn Ahelee Sue Osborn is offline
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    Georgio's Avatar
    Amazing......!
    Posted October 27th, 2009 at 03:19 AM by Georgio Georgio is offline
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    Did you think I flipped too far away from the wall?
    I counted 3 strokes...and the last one was a hard drive into the tuck position. It didn't look as if there was any hang time even though you may have had room for another stroke. The legs and feet were planted solid, and not too far out (in a pike position).

    That said...if you did take a fourth, it may have taken you too close into the flip, and caused a jammed foot plant.

    Your current strategy of charging the wall looks very correct. We have a backstroke phenom on our girls high school team. And in lieu of the extra stroke, she's been taught to make the last really count. It eliminated any tentativeness as she makes her way into the tuck.

    You're definitely capable of a very fast 100 back. It's time to think of it as a 50 yard back combined with a 50 yard kick. You've got to be one of the best underwater kickers in master swimming.
    Posted October 27th, 2009 at 09:06 AM by quicksilver quicksilver is offline
 
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