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  1. Sarasota Y Sharks Masters 5:30 AM Workout -05/04/10

    by , May 3rd, 2010 at 03:52 PM (Sarasota Y Sharks Masters 5:30 a.m. Workout)
    SCY

    WARM UP:
    3 X 200 3:20
    3 X 150 2:20
    3 X 100 1:30

    4 X 100 kick 2:15
    6 X 50 kick 1:15

    4 X 250 IM 4:30
    Rotate 50 of each stroke.

    LCM

    1 X 200 3:20
    4 X 100 1:40
    Twice through

    WARM DOWN: 4 X 50 easy 1:00

    4450 Y/M
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  2. The pool felt so wonderfully cool this morning

    I went to AGUA’s early morning practice this morning. The weekend had been really hot and humid here, and our apartment building has not switched over to air conditioning yet, so I was super glad to crawl out of bed this morning and head to the pool. Here’s what we did:

    600 scy warmup

    9 x 75 K/D/S @ :15 rest interval (2 FL, 2 BK, 2 BR, 2 FR, 1 IM)

    Then we divided into 2 groups, distance FR and ST/IM. I chose the latter. We did the following set:
    6 x 50 fast @ :35 [I did odds FL, BK, BR, evens FR]
    3 x 100 @ 1:40, [I did odds IM, evens BK]
    2 x 200 @ 3:20, [odd BK, even IM]
    300 IM
    6 x 50 fast @ :35 [same as above]
    300 easy FR
    2 x 200 easy FR
    4 z 100 ST fast @ 2:00 [I did odds IM (1:21, 1:18?), evens BK (1:17, 1:16)]

    250 warmdown

    I’ve been looking at the timeline for Atlanta and thinking about what suits I want to wear for each race. I have to decide which events are far enough apart to warrant costume changes in between—I don’t like sitting around in my tech suit if there’s tons and tons of time between events. How do other people handle this? In spite of my general love of swimsuits, figuring out how many costume changes I should plan for and how many and which suits to bring (because putting back on the same wet tight tech suit seems pretty impossible) is not one of my favorite big-meet-associated tasks.

    I am pretty pleased with the timing of my events: On Friday, my races start at 8am (400 IM, I always like swimming the first event on my first day at a meet, rather than waiting around), 12:15pm (50 BR), and 1:20 (200 BK). It looks like I’ll have a nice lunch break between the IM and before the 50 BR that day. On Saturday I get to sleep in, then swim the last 3 events back-to-back-to-back, at 12:50, 2:20, and 3:55. I might get to swim some relays in there as well. I think it will be a fun few days!

    Yesterday afternoon I did the following rowing workout with Mr. Addict. It is the second time we’ve attempted to do 6 x (2 minutes hard, 2 minutes rest), and both times I’ve bailed before I finished the set. The first time I tried to do 2 sets of 3 descending 2s, and I went 1:57 on the 3rd one, which is a very good time for me, but then was just too drained and wheezy to carry on. Yesterday my goal was just to go sub-2:10 on the odds and <2:05 on the evens, which I thought would be doable. I think I just got too overheated—the air conditioning at the Y has not been turned on yet, either. I ended up giving myself a get-out-time on the 4th rep, made it, and just did the last 2 easy. Mr. Addict was suffering too, but he powered through the whole thing.

    6-minute warmup and drills
    2-minute rest
    8-minute piece build and pace work
    6 x (2-minute piece, 2-minute rest) [2:08, 2:03, 2:08, 2:03, 2:30, 2:25]
    8-minute warmdown [I skipped this since I’d already warmed down]
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  3. Monday May 3, 2010

    by , May 3rd, 2010 at 01:24 PM (Keepin Track 2010)
    Up too early! 3:45 am and couldn't get back to sleep. YUCK. Cat nap later in the hammock I think!

    YOGA 8am-9am. Felt particularly flexible in hammys! Nice. Hip flexors tight and groin tender. Perhaps some extra care this week.

    Massage 10-11am.

    Ahhh the life!
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  4. 5/3: Team Practice

    Warm up (1000)
    - 400 swim
    - 200 kick no fins with board
    - 400 back
    Transition (200)
    - 4x50 kick with fins no board work streamline
    Main Set (1400)
    - 2x100 back
    - 200 Fast (2:16)
    - 2x100 back
    - 2x100 Fast (1:03, 1:02)
    - 2x100 back
    - 4x50 Fast (:31, :30, :29, :27)
    - 2x100 back
    Main Set 2 (400)
    - 4x with fins: 50 (<:27 on all) Fast 50 kick ez on 1:30/100
    Cool down (300)
    - 300 ez

    My shoulders and arms were sore this morning, but the only thing I did hard yesterday was kick and I took Saturday off. I guess holding a kickboard is harder than I thought.

    I really really feel slow sprint wise, as it is difficult for me to crack 30 on a 50 and almost impossible to crack 1:00 on a 100. I think I need to do more fast 50s.
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  5. Mon May 03rd 2010 kick set with UT women today

    by , May 3rd, 2010 at 12:18 PM (Ande's Swimming Blog)
    Mon May 03rd 2010

    swam on Saturday at Dick Nichols
    with Jon, Tyler, Todd & Marcio

    lifted weights this morning

    Upcoming Travel

    Thu May 13 - Sun 16: Grand Canyon, AZ
    (any recs for what to do?)

    Sun May 16 - Wed 19: Scottsdale, AZ
    (any recs for what to do in Phoenix, kids are 19 & 20?)

    Thu May 20 - Mon 24: Atlanta


    TODAYS SWIM PRACTICE

    Swim Center
    LCM Main pool & SCY div well
    Kim, Jim & Jackie Coached
    WHITNEY coached
    6:30 - 8:00 dove in 6:33
    swam with Nate tyler, & Mike
    Beside ed & Gretch

    wore B70 jammer

    Warm UP
    200

    MAIN SET

    JOINED UT Women for a challenging kick set

    15 x 100 LCM kick FAST on 3:00
    Best ave, Dove them all
    on most I did 6 SDKs off the start
    I started out around 1:18
    which kind of surprised me
    did mostly 1:17's then drifted up to 18's,
    did a couple 19's
    then went 1:14.3 on #15
    that was a very challenging set
    did a set like this a few years ago with UT women, think my best was 1:20, I ave around 1:23 or 4
    noticed I my kicks were smaller & I went faster

    moved back to diving well

    they were doing 150s
    I did 100's & swam down
    then did an easy speed 50 SDK
    went 28

    2010 MEETS:

    [2010 Short Course National Championships
    Thu May 20 - Sun 23, 2010
    Nats are in 3 weeks & 1 days or 22 DAYS
    time to get fast, strong, skinny, & rested
    Days Till Nats
    FRI 050 BR 100 FL
    SAT 200 IM 050 BK
    SUN 100 IM 050 FR


    July 8 - 11, 2010
    Senior Circuit #4
    Austin, TX


    07/23/10 - 07/25/10
    2010 South Central Long Course
    Southlake, Texas
  6. Monday, 5/3/10

    by , May 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 AM (A comfort swimmer's guide to easy swimming)
    18 days to Nationals!
    SCY with Carrie


    200 swim alt. 75 free/25 back
    200 IM kick
    200 drill alt. 25 free/25 back working long walls
    200 pull choice
    200 swim alt. 75 back/25 free

    swim 8 x 100 on 2:00:
    #1-2 free, hold stroke length (15-16 spl and 1:19±)
    #3 free, 1st and last 25 FAST, work on fast breakout on the 1st length and a fast finish on the last one (around 1:20)
    #4-5 back, hold stroke length (17 spl and 1:28, 1:25)
    #6 back, 1st and last 25 FAST, work on fast breakout on the 1st length and a fast finish on the last one around 1:25
    #7-8 IM smooth, make the interval (around 1:30 on both)
    100 easy

    kick 8 x 50 on 1:10 w/zoomers:
    #1 & 5 first and last 12.5 fast,
    #3&7 middle 25 fast,
    evens smooth, make interval
    (was doing these around 40. seemed like too much rest)
    100 easy

    swim 12 x 25 on 45: odds long kickout and fast breakout; evens sprint in from the flags, mix these up free and back
    (not sure about times on these. because of the glare I couldn't see the clock very well)

    swim down 300 easy choice
    --
    Total: 3000 yards
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  7. Felt like %^@$

    by , May 3rd, 2010 at 07:42 AM (Mixing it up this year)
    Oh well not a particularly good day, still some nausea, lack of energy and all round not great but still managed a workout.

    10x100@1:45 Free every 3rd IM
    5x100@1:30 Free kick w/fins
    10x100@:10R Free at pace subtract 1:30 from the time which came out to 13:58 only 1 minute off yuck
    10x50 from Dive 15 meter breakouts the first 3 and last 2 were not to bad everything in the middle just stunck couldn't get my streamline on the start
    300 kick w/fins
    200 free Easy

    total 3500 yards
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  8. Back in the saddle, or water that is!

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 PM (Swimming, Life, and Other Stuff!)
    The ribs are finally starting to come around. They still hurt with deep breathing or pressure but swimming is working out okay this week.
    I'm going to train for the July 10K swim. When the date arrives I will re-assess and decide if I should "go for it" or drop back to the 5K swim.

    Today's Nasti Workout:

    **500 Freestyle Warm-up
    **7 X 100 Free on 1:45 interval
    **4 X 50 Kick on 1:15
    **6 X 100 Free on 1:40 interval
    **4 X 50 Stroke on 1:15
    **5 X 100 Free on 1:35 interval
    **4 X 50 Kick on 1:15
    **4 X 100 on 1:30 interval
    **4 X 50 Descending 50 Free's on 1:15
    **200 easy cool-down

    3,700 scy

    I'm off school tomorrow; Flex Day!!!
    I took a personal day on Friday to give an all day SPARK Training for Physical Education Teachers at Huntington College.
    I'm planning to do a 5K swim workout tomorrow, a 5-7K run, and a kettle belle workout.
    I've missed blogging! I started a couple a few different times but they sounded winey so I deleted.
    Hopefully I will be back to regular daily banter!
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  9. 5/2: Solo Kick workout

    Lifetime SCM

    Warm up
    - 300 swim
    - 100 back
    - 200 kick
    - 100 back
    Main Set
    - 200, 2x100, 4x50 kick hard with board
    - 100 back ez after each repeat
    * Each kick should be faster than half the double distance time
    - went 4:16, 1:58, 1:58, 4x <:54
    Dolphin Kick
    - 4x50 dolphin kick with board
    - 100 back ez after each repeat
    Cool down
    - 200 kick ez
    - 300 swim

    That is 3100M, mostly easy. The kicking times weren't that fast, but I was pretty happy with the workout.

    I liked my auto adjusting kick set for the auto adjusting part, not the kick part.
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  10. Sunday, 5/2/2010

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 09:07 PM (A comfort swimmer's guide to easy swimming)
    Went to the Boise Downtown YMCA and did about 1000 of easy swimming and drilling.
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  11. Saturday, May 1, 2010

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 09:05 PM (A comfort swimmer's guide to easy swimming)
    SCY, in Boise at West YMCA with some of the Sawtooth Masters and Coach Kelsey.
    This was the final "hard" workout before starting taper.

    swim 500 alt. 75 free/50 back
    kick 200 free w/board & no fins
    pull 300 alt. 75 free/75 back: work the finish of the stroke
    kick 200 back w/6-8 SDK on each 25
    200 easy choice

    swim 6 x 50 on 1:00. odds back, evens free: build each to 85%
    (Did free around 38, back around 41)
    200 easy choice

    kick 6x on 2:00:
    {50 smooth free, 15 sec. rest, 25 free all out}
    (25's went from 19 to 23)
    100 easy swim

    6 x 50 back pace on 1:10: try to hold goal 200 speed on each 50 with good walls and underwaters
    (Kept all but the 2nd one between 37 and 38. The 2nd one was mid 38)
    100 easy

    2x around:
    {kick 4x25 back w/6-8 SDK per 25, all out on 45
    (These were all around 23±)
    50 easy on 1:30}

    sprint 4 x 25 off blocks:
    (Kelsey timed me, Did 1 & 2 free. #1 - 12.9 to touch, #2 - 13.4 to the feet.
    Was going to do 3 & 4 back but calves kept cramping on the start)

    swim down 350

    Total: 3550 yards

    Updated May 3rd, 2010 at 04:22 PM by poolraat

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  12. Ande Workout Redux, May 2

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 08:43 PM (The FAF AFAP Digest)
    SCY/Swim/Solo:

    Warm up:

    800 various

    Ande "Stations:"

    5 x 50 backstroke kick @ 1:00
    descend 1-4 to 90% (35, 33, 31, 25), cruise 5

    5 x 50 russian breast drill w/fins @ 1:00
    descend 1-4 to 90% (went down to 32), cruise 5

    5 x 100 @ 2:00
    75 cruise free pull w/paddles + 5 seconds rest + fast UW shooter on belly

    5 x 75 @ :20 RI
    drill, kick, swim
    25 dolphin kick on side + 25 caterpillar + 25 chest press fly

    5 x 50 breast pull w/buoy @ 1:15
    25 EZ + 25 fast
    worked on head position and fast hands

    100 EZ

    5 x (2 x 50) @ 1:15
    odds = 25 fast doggie paddle drill for hand speed + 25 scull
    evens = 25 EZ speed fly + 25 EZ

    5 x 25 UW shooter, working on DPK

    125 EZ

    Total: 3300


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    Commentary:

    This is a modified Ande workout that I did 3 weeks before NE Champs. (Note: This is what Ande "did" as opposed to what was "assigned.") I like this workout b/c it intersperses speed throughout instead of just sticking a speed set on the end.

    I didn't feel the greatest in the water today, though times seemed OK. I was out very late last night for dinner & drinks with a couple friends from law school in town from Chicago. Great to see them, but my late night caused me to miss my am team practice. Probably good to log some sleep anyway. I feel quite tired tonight, which is odd b/c I was energetic all week despite the hard workouts.

    It's officially taper time. I know Ande thinks we all "crave" this, but not me. I'm not as broken down as usual since I rested some for Zones. Probably a very good thing in retrospect so that my hyped up, fast twitch sprinter body can get some real rest. I figure aerobic work is definitely fixed at this point, so I'll just be doing speed work and recovery swimming. May do one suffering set this week, but that's it!

    Tomorrow, I'm hitting the gym for RC+core+stretching and then I'll do a short swim workout.

    Just checked the timeline for Nats: http://www.usms.org/comp/scnats10/timeline.pdf. My earliest event is at 11:00. So glad; I need the time to get properly woken up.

    19 days until my first Nationals swim
    23 days until my first run in eons
    28 days until swimming is less fun

    Updated May 2nd, 2010 at 09:39 PM by The Fortress

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  13. The mighty hudson

    Its been very exciting to hear of hoards of swimmers hitting the open water this past week from Dover to Chicago and points beyond. In many areas, the temperatures are squeaking above 50 degrees, and the swimming is rather short. My first "local" OW swim of the season was last saturday in the Hudson River a couple of miles north of Beacon..... just north of a little town called Chelsea. We (Rondi, Willie and I) crossed the Metro North tracks and entered the river at a small rocky beach where there were a couple of men fishing. We swam north for 30 minutes, turned around, and swam back to our entry point. The trip back took 30 minutes as well but the pace was faster as we were now against a bit of current.... the Hudson flows both ways. The water temp was between 56 and 60, with few spots of the latter and many more of the former.

    Yesterday, we decided to do a one way swim, and shoot for 2 hours. We recruited a couple of kayakers (Danielle and Mike) to escort our group of 4... same cast as last week with Terry joining us. We started at a small north facing cove at Denning Point which is about 5 miles south of our enty/exit point of last week and exit point for this swim as well. Terry and Willie started first and Danielle paddled alongside them while Rondi and I did our final prep and hit the water a couple of minutes later. This was my first swim with Mike and Danielle. They will be my Kayak escorts for MIMS so I was excited about getting some H2O time alongside them. The water temp was about the same as last week, but the air temp was approaching 80 and the sun was shinning which made it comfortable for me, but I think Rondi was catching a chill. Our two groups merged a little bit north of the Newburgh-Beacon Bridge and then split up again.... Willie and I changing places.
    Both Mike and Danielle were excellent escorts giving us a larger presence among the recreational boat traffic, and they carried our clothes and hot drinks in the boats so they were handy at our exit. Rondi and Willie finished about 5 minutes before Terry and me and we were just a couple of minutes under the 2 hour goal.

    The water this far north is fresh and there were very few twigs drifting since the weather was mostly clear last week.

    We started the swim around 10:30, 40 minutes after low tide which means we were swimming with an increasingly favorable current. Sometime in the next 2-3 weeks I would like to do a bridge to bridge swim (Mid-Hudson to Newburgh-Beacon). This is about 13.5 miles. I think we could swim it in 4 - 4.5 hours if we get the tides right, though we will need a power boat to get to the start and scoop us up at the finish.

    I've got a little planning to do!
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  14. Managing the thighs

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 06:48 PM (Elise's Fitness Fun)
    Almost all women seem to get frustrated with the tendency to pack the pounds on the thighs, myself included. Saw the following article and was encouraged that jump roping is considered one of the best for keeping them trim. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/thigh...for-girls.html

    Squats are also mentioned. I do have to say that even doing the 1 set of 20 with the bar (45 pounds) the last few months does seem to have given the old thighs a firmer look.

    I did my jump rope routine today and added in a little extra:

    2 sets of 250 "jumps:"

    Set one: 50 skips, 50 jumps, 50 skips, 100 jumps

    Set two: 50 skips, 150 jumps, 50 skips

    2 sets of 10 double-unders

    I pulled out my regular jump rope today instead of my weighted jump rope as I have found doing double-unders to be extremely difficult when using a weighted jump rope.
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  15. Motivating Water Nymphs

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 04:43 PM (Vlog the Inhaler, or The Occasional Video Blog Musings of Jim Thornton)
    Girls these days have it hard.

    They have become the Super Gender, excelling in everything from academics to sports to Godly favoritism.


    If you look at standard TV sitcoms, these Super Girls are often linked with Loser Guys.


    Cases-in-point:



    Ed and Heather




    Esmeralda and Quasimodo



    Michele and me


    Because
    today's girls are so ridiculously good at just about everything they do, and so absurdly better than our drone gender, it has become increasingly difficult for us (i,e,. the still primarily male mentor/coaching ranks) to find new ways to motivate these super girls in the pool.

    Trophies?

    The typical super girl has so many trophies that they have become old hat!

    Old hats?

    Alas, they have a surfeit of these too!

    On our team here in Sewickley, we are blessed with a super girl of the highest rank--a great swimmer who can also taxidermy road-killed raccoons via the so-called "brain method" (whereby the hide is cured in the fatty acid emollients of the critter's brain), turning said sad specimen into one of the most spectacular handbags you have ever seen in all your born days.

    Mistress Mollie is something of a globe hopper, too--wintering in the Islands hither, summering at the beach thither, returning to Sewickley only for short interludes between the shifting of the high social seasons of her different preferred locales.

    How might I manage to motivate such a girlish specimen to even greater heights of accomplishment?

    It seems, at first glance, an absolutely impossible dream!

    But I have found that the key is the right admixture of evoked emotions. These cannot be entirely sweet; these can't be entirely sour; these can't be entirely sensual appeals to appetites unspoken but obvious; nor can they be wholly the instigation of massive disgust and "is that all there is?" desperation.


    No. The psychological appeal must include all these things and more.

    Of course, every super girl is unique, and you must find a distinctive set of motivational tools to push her individualized set of buttons. (There are usually three of these.)

    In this video, I demonstrate how seemingly peculiar set of props--including a veterinary medical display item and a man who uncannily resembles it--conspired to get our team's super girl Mollie to respond way beyond my wildest dreams.

    Please feel free to borrow and adapt the protocol for use in motivating your own team's super girls.

    Oh, and one more thing: You're welcome!

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x_CPWdx-Eg"]YouTube- Motivating Mollie[/nomedia]
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  16. Asia Trip report - No swimming info

    The narrative is long, but if you want details, they are there. I think there are only about 150 pictures and video clips, and they cover most of the trip with decent captions.

    All the swimming from the trip has already been posted here and it not repeated in the trip report.

    http://qbrain.randomnonsense.com/dallas-to-singapore/
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  17. Sunday, May 2, 2010

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 AM (Keepin Track 2010)
    RAN-2.0
    Stretched 30 min and core.
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  18. Saturday, May 2010

    by , May 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 AM (Keepin Track 2010)
    Countdown to Nats! May 1 means 19 days till the meet.

    Today I bopped in for a quick warm up type WO to keep to the meet schedule a bit more closely.

    WU
    200FR
    200FR/BA
    100 FR KICK no board/flips
    100 BR kick drill hands at sides

    6x100 alt 25 DRILL/25 SWIM
    #1-4 BR
    #5 BA
    #6 FL

    16x25 with fins
    alt 25 moderate kick with efficiency with 25 all out sprint kick

    4FL
    4BA
    4BR
    4FR


    8x25 swim sprints with flippers. 2 each stroke.

    100 WD
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  19. More Coaching than swimming today

    by , May 1st, 2010 at 04:25 PM (Mixing it up this year)
    Swam the usual with Sandra and Joe today.

    5x100 Free not on any interval since Joe was having trouble keeping up with us.
    40x25 10 drills of each stroke
    500 Free kick w/fins every 3rd fast

    Total 2000 yards

    Next worked with the 2 masters swimmers Tom and Thea who are attending Nationals.
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  20. Debulk, ideal weight, etc.

    by , May 1st, 2010 at 03:19 PM (Elise's Fitness Fun)
    Today, did a workout mainly focusing on backstroke. Water temp was 86, so did not push the broken swims. Simply tried to keep an even pace.

    Warm-up: 400 easy

    8 x 25 back with fins on :30 - start off each 25 easy and go fast at end

    3 x broken 200 back on 4:00 - break 10 seconds at the 50

    200 easy

    8 x 25 AFAP back with fins on :20

    200 easy

    4 x 75 back drill - 25 rt/25 lt/25 full - focused on getting head back and hips up

    4 x 25 AFAP back on 1:00

    200 easy

    1 x 50 free from a dive - 35 all-out, focusing on fast turns, 15 easy

    200 easy

    1 x 50 fly from a dive - 35 all- out, 15 easy

    200 easy

    1 x 50 fly from a dive - 35 all-out, 15 easy

    200 easy

    3050 SCY

    After swim workout, went upstairs for light weight workout. I think this will be my last workout with weights.

    Squats: bar x 20

    Push-ups: 1 set of 10 with Bosu

    Lat pull-down: 1 set of 100 x 10

    Leg curl: 1 set of 30 x 10

    Hammer curls: 1 set of 8 x 10

    Leg/knee extensions: 2 sets of 20

    Back extensions: 2 sets of 20

    Tomorrow plan to just jump rope.

    Notes:

    A week ago, one of of the senior girls commented that I had really built my shoulders up and was getting some pretty serious definition. I thought this might be good, but don't want to be too bulky. I mentioned yesterday that I had lost some inches. In some areas - lower back, hips, etc., I seem to, but perhaps the weight has gone to my shoulders. The dresses I tried on the other day were sleeveless, so I would not be able to tell if I have added inches in my shoulders and arms. I'm not really worried about how I look, but am more concerned about how this might affect my swimming performance.

    Today when I was doing my 50s from a dive, two other senior girls were guarding and remarked that I looked like I was really tight in my shoulders and upper back and wasn't getting the turnover of range of motion they thought I could get. On my last 50 from a dive, they said I looked a lot better. I did get a deep-tissue massage yesterday, but still, their comments made me wonder if I have gotten a little too bulky in my shoulders for my frame. I'm actually small to medium-boned, so I am not inclined to carry my weight well beyond 145, even if it is good weight.

    I noticed when I tapered for Auburn, at the end of the two week taper, I had lost some bulk in my shoulders and arms. This showed up as a three pound loss. I had a pretty good meet and felt pretty strong, so I'm hoping the same thing will happen. Before the taper, I was at 145 and dropped to 142. I'm a little bit over 5'9," so this is a decent weight for me. I've noticed that if I go under 138, I really lose my power on my sprints.

    Today, I weighed and I was at 143. Body fat is 17.6%. I have no idea if that is good or bad for a female masters swimmer for my age. In any case, I am somewhat hopeful that now that I am going off the weights that I will keep the metabolic advantage that lifting weights brings about, at least for the next three weeks. At the same time, I'm hopeful that I will debulk a little.

    Updated May 1st, 2010 at 04:11 PM by elise526

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