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  1. Sarasota Y Sharks Masters 5:30 AM Workout -11/23/11

    by , November 22nd, 2011 at 02:31 PM (Sarasota Y Sharks Masters GOLD Workout)
    LCM
    WARM UP:
    3 X 100 2:00 1:45
    2 X 200 3:45 3:30
    Two rounds. Round 1 intervals left, 2 right.

    2 X 100 kick 2:30
    6 X 50 kick 1:15

    6 X 200 pull 3:30
    Descend 1-3/4-6

    4 X {3 X 50 1:15
    1&2 swims are moderate, #3 @ 100%
    All choice.

    WARM DOWN: 4 X 50 easy 1:00

    3900M
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  2. Mon Nov 21st & Tue Nov 22nd 2011

    by , November 22nd, 2011 at 12:13 PM (Ande's Swimming Blog)
    Mon Nov 21st & Tue Nov 22nd 2011

    Upcoming Meet

    Sat Dec 3rd & Sun Dec 4th
    2011 South Central SCM Regional Invitational
    San Antonio, TX
    DAYS TILL


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    Mon Nov 21st 2011

    Whitney Coached
    scy UT Swim Center: main pool
    noon to 1:15
    wore B70 Jammer
    trained beside Josh Davis, Marcio

    WARM UP scy

    just swam easy and did a few fast 25's

    Tue Nov 22nd 2011

    Whitney Coached
    scy UT Swim Center: main pool
    6:30 - 8:00
    wore B70 Jammer
    trained with Tyler, Marcio, Mike beside
    Paul, Larry, Korey, Jim & James Fike

    swam easy

    did a few dive 25s
    skipped half of the main set
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  3. The lull of Thanksgiving week

    by , November 22nd, 2011 at 12:05 PM (Chowmi's Blog)
    Ok, here are the results from the DAMM SCM Meet:

    http://www.damswim.com/files/2011_fall_meet_results.pdf

    And my 200 fly splits

    36.89
    1:21.09 44.20
    2:07.63 46.54
    2:48.08 40.45

    Ok! So it looks like I spent more energy going slow than it would have taken me to just go smooth and faster! I can clearly see how to improve without even training more for this event - go out a wee bit faster, and go low 40's in the middle bits. I think I can lop off enough time to go under 2:40 the next time. My converted time to SCY is a 2:30 which seems awfully modest, so my goal is to go 2:25 in SCY this season. If I swim it. My daughter's swim coach video'd me. The turns were sharp, UWs good, and then it looked like I was spending a lot of energy trying to go slow and I was low in the water.

    Here is yesterday's workout:

    400 warm up

    Pull set:
    3 x 300's pull
    ==>no.
    100 strong kick with fins on back;
    2 x 50 smooth
    per every 300

    Kick set:
    30 per 25 base, last 25 of everything fast, no fins, alt tummy with board, on back no board
    2 x 100
    2 x 75
    2 x 50
    2 x 25

    Main set:
    3 rounds
    3 x 100 1:30 1:25 1:20 by set
    2 x 50 recovery
    ==>
    3 x 50 fly's (instead of the 100's)
    2 x 50 recovery
    held 35-38's

    So if I can make 50's strong well under 40 (and in the mosh pit of freestylers), and I can make 75's under 1:00 in practice, then it seems a 2:48 is way too slow. Though I have no 200 knowledge, it seems that I should be averaging under 40's per 200 in a race? Anyone?

    Perhaps a better measure would be "broken" 50 flys - it's one thing to hold 35-38's when you are going on 1:30 to 1:20 interval (only 3 plus 2 easy recovery 50's), but if I could hold those when they are on 4 x 50 on 1 min or 50 sec, then that would be a better indication of how fast I can do a 200 fly race. Something like this:

    3 sets
    4 x 50 fly
    1 min/50 sec/45 sec by round
    Trying to hold the same pace with less rest?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    In other news, a certain someone wants to room with me at the Austin Grand Prix. It totally made me excited she thought I was that fast, especially since she's been to 5 Olympics and is trying to decide if she wants to commit to going it for #6. Then she asked if I was going to Nationals, and I was awed how fast she thought I was when i'm just not close anymore to the cuts. But, now I want to live up to Martina's expecations and at least put that 23.99 back on the table. I'd like to stay close to it (goal #1) but I see absolutely nothing wrong with relying on doubling down on the sheer willpower element (plan B) when training is truncated by life. WISH ME LUCK!!!
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  4. Tuesday's Distance Day

    by , November 22nd, 2011 at 11:06 AM (Year Three: The Road Back)
    Well... I must say that this one was a struggle from the get-go. So... knowing that... I decided to focus on swimming the 500s strong (read as: making the interval) and shortening the 100s (read as: swam as 75s). The original plan was two sets of: 2 x 500 on 7:30 followed by 10 x 100 on 1:30. When I missed the very first of the 100s, I decided to swim the next as a 50, then shorten the rest down to 75s. Here's what I ended up doing:

    300 Warm-Up
    2 x 500 Free on 7:30
    1 x 100 Free on 1:30 (actually on 1:32)
    1 x 50 Free on 1:30 (catching my breath)
    8 x 75 Free on 1:30
    1 x 500 Kick on 7:30
    1 x 500 Pull on 7:30
    6 x 75 Free on 1:30
    100 Cool-Down
    Total Yards - 3600

    All in all, not a bad distance for a 60 minute swim (give or take a few minutes). With everything being on a 1:30 base, it was tough. Here's the weird thing though. When I'm swimming by myself (like when I was doing the Postal swims), I was basically doing 100 repeats on the 1:25 with no break in between. Does that make sense? Maybe I'm just more relaxed when swimming for myself. When I'm swimming on an interval that I think will be tight.... those are typically the workouts I have trouble with. Huh.... something to mull over.

    It's raining in Central Indiana today. It could b worse... my folks got more snow in Minnesota. Hope it's sunny and warm where you are.

    Enjoy your swims today!
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  5. Esprit de lane

    This morning I swam with TNYA. It was a crowded workout, since pool closures mean Thursday-Sunday practices have been cancelled. Our lane of 6 worked well together, though, and it was a joy to share the lane with considerate and funny teammates--we were giggling over one thing or another all the time we were at the wall together. Coach Sean was on deck. Here’s how it went:

    800 scy warmup

    10 x 50 K @ 1:05: odds = flutter on side, evens = choice [dolphin on back for me]

    400 pull w/ breathing pattern [I decided that simple bilateral breathing sufficiently honored the spirit of the assigned breathing pattern.]

    18 x 100 FR:
    1 @ 1:35
    1 @ 1:20
    1 @ 1:35
    2 @ 1:20
    1 @ 1:35
    3 @ 1:20
    1:00 rest, then repeat
    [I tried to keep all the 1:20s under 1:15—made 10 of 12.]

    200 easy, alt. FR/BK by 50

    10 x 50 choice:
    Odds = K/D @ 1:05
    Evens = D/S @ :55
    [By this point in the workout our lane was down to 5, so we each led a pair of these and the leader got to pick the stroke for the whole lane.]

    150 warmdown

    It was a fun workout.

    It’s time to re-up with USMS, and I have to figure out which of the teams I swim regularly with to register with. Right now I’m affiliated with Asphalt Green, and in many ways it makes sense for me to stay with them—they reliably have decent attendance at local meets and at nationals, and I enjoy swimming relays with them and having a coach at meets for feedback. However, next year Team New York will be hosting a local meet in March, and there’s also the possibility that I’ll go to 2012 IGLA championships in Iceland with them. They’ll have a good turnout for both events, and when TNYA turns out for an event, they do it in style—we’ll probably have around 40-70 swimmers going to Reykjavik! Being part of that would be a blast—I think the most fun meets I’ve gone to as a masters swimmers have been IGLAs and Gay Games with Team New York. TNYA is also the team I’ve swum with for the longest time in the city, and I have the deepest connection with teammates there. (But—if I’d been affiliated with them at last weekend’s meet, I would have had only 1 teammate there, and couldn’t have swum relays.)

    Also, this year CIBBOWS is an official team within Metro, so that gives me a third choice. I’m thrilled that that group is thriving, and I love swimming with them and want to support them. But that choice probably wouldn’t give me teammates or coaching at meets. It’s nice to have so many options, and I do feel grateful to have so many choices for swimming in the city. I’m also thankful that so far no one has insisted that I affiliate with them to swim with them, or made too much of a fuss when I want to switch back or forth—I’m hoping that doesn’t change. It does make me miss the days when all the teams in our LMSC were lumped together in one big happy family, and you could pick up strangers at meets to swim relays with (and all hold hands and sing kum-ba-yah afterwards).
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  6. Workout 11/22/11

    by , November 22nd, 2011 at 09:37 AM (Maple Syrup with a Side of Chlorine)
    Solo at Rec (scy)

    w/u
    200 FR/200 BK
    9 x 50 kick on :60 (fr w/ board, back w/o, sdk, ...)
    50 EZ

    5 x 200 Pull with buoy
    - 1-2 FR on 2:45 (held :30)
    - 3 BK on 3:00
    - 4-5 FR on 2:45 (:28, :26)

    6 x 75 FR on 1:15
    - shuffle fast 25 end -> beginning 1->3

    100 EZ and out
    (2450, 45 min)
    ----------

    My arms felt sore today. Over the past two weeks I have been adding pushups (3 x 10) as well as exercise bands and some abd moves to help build some strength. Yesterday I also finished the raking of leaves, so I think being sore is to be expected.

    I moved through the water well today. Lane count went from 2 ->5, then back to 3, so I really did not think I could get to hefty a workout going. Giving how I feel, this worked well for me today.

    Happy trails, or sails, or wake to you all.
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  7. 11.22.11 - Tuesday workout

    by , November 22nd, 2011 at 09:03 AM (Pete's swim blog)
    Just Dave and myself today. Pool temp ~83. Felt tired today. Got some speed back on the last set but otherwise, I was relatively slow.

    SCY
    400 Warm up

    3 x 25 Fr/Bk/Fr - :30
    3 x 25 Fr/K/Fr - :30
    3 x 25 Fr/Br/Fr - :25
    3 x 25 Fr/Fl/Fr - :25
    3 x 50 - :45 Convert 50 Fr -> 50 Fl
    3 x 50 - :45 Convert 50 Fr -> 50 Bk
    3 x 50 - :45 Convert 50 Fr -> 50 Br
    5 x 50 - :45 Convert 50 Fr -> 50 K -> 50 Fr
    50 Easy

    7 x 75 - 1:10 Convert 75 Fr -> 75 K -> 75 Fr
    7 x 75 - 1:10 Convert 75 Stroke1 -> 75 Stroke2 -> 75 Stroke1
    This was supposed to be on 1:00 but that's not realistic for me. Workout was probably written for High School kids. I did Bk->Fl->Bk and barely made it on 1:10.
    100 Easy

    Set 1 - 9 x 100 - 1:40 Convert Kick -> Free ->Kick
    Set 2 - 9 x 100 - 1:20 Convert Free -> Stroke -> Free
    1st 100 set1, 1st 100 set2, 2nd 100 set 1 ... last 100 set1, last 100 set2 (sprint)
    Kind of confusing but it makes sense. Alternating makes it easier with the free from set1 on 1:40 matched with the stroke on 1:20. I converted Free -> IM -> Free. Original intervals were 1:30 for the kick conversion and 1:15 for the stroke conversion.

    200 Cool down

    (4600 Total)
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  8. Nothing of importance 11/22/11

    I went in this morning with a plan and didn't do much of any of it. I planned on starting out with a 400 w/bouy and snorkel but felt so good that I just kept going. I still only had time for a quick 2000.

    1000 w/buoy and snorkel

    8 x 25 fly kick shooters
    --odd on back
    --even on front

    4 x 50 back @ 50 descend
    4 x 50 breast @ 55 descend
    4 x 75 ba/br/fr @ 1:15

    100 EZ

    2000

    The intent today was just to stretch out from last nights fast swimming. I feel older than I am.
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  9. A sprint day of sorts

    by , November 22nd, 2011 at 07:55 AM (Mixing it up this year)
    Sprinting is hard when you put in the effort.

    500 free broken
    500 free kick w/fins every 3rd 25 fast
    4x[50@1:00 free w/fins FAST held 29's on these
    ....[200@4:00 free w/fins easy
    3x100@:10R free kick w/snorkle
    700 free w/paddles & bouy strong

    Total 3000 yards

    Updated November 22nd, 2011 at 08:41 AM by Donna

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  10. Good Workout 11/21/11

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 09:14 PM (Workout Swimmer)
    Today was a great workout day for me, I was swimming so well, it's a shame I didn't have a meet to go to!!


    400 back/free
    2 x 400 pull, second one w/paddles
    3 x 300, 50 stroke/50 free (I did IM twitch)
    300 kick
    5 x 100 @ 1:20 (held near 1:10's on each!!)
    100 easy
    10 sec rest per 50 for each of the next 10 swims
    50 fly
    100 back
    150 breast
    200 free
    250 IM (25 fly, 50 back, 75 breast, 100 free)
    250 pull
    200 pull
    150 pull
    100 pull
    50 pull
    200 easy


    Total: 5300

    Have a goal of doing 10 x 100 @ 1:20, holding 1:10's, easily did 1/2 of that this morning. Easily (weird)
    Lapped everyone who was left in the pool on the last 1/2 of the ladder at the end - that was nice. Just an all around great workout. Hope to repeat the quality again the rest of the week!f
    Found out that the pool won't open until about 8am on Black Friday, and so I won't get to swim, since I have to be at work at 8:30. Pooh. Pool closed on Thanksgiving, of course. I guess having a couple days off won't kill me - I just like to space them out, and not have them right next to each other.
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  11. Monday 11/21/11

    I have not been in the pool in about a week for various reasons. It felt good to be back but I didn't feel good in the water like I expected. I will get it back soon. Tonight was a lot of short swims but most of them were fast swims.

    10 min choice

    6 x through
    100 build r/15
    2 x 50 @ 90% r/10
    50 drill/build by 25 r/10
    4 x 25 AFAP r/10
    rest 30 and repeat

    2 x through the folowing ladder
    25/50/75/100/100/75/50/25
    --rest 10 between each distance
    --build within distance on the way up
    --hold at 90% on the way down
    --round 1 was all free
    --round 2 was stroke (back for me)

    200 w/d

    3700

    Not my night tonight but I didn't give up. I was actually surprised that it hurt me as much as it did. Will try again tomorrow. I need to mix in some IM work.
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  12. Official Meet Results/Splits/chowmi200flypart1

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 08:28 PM (Random Nonsense)
    50 Free http://youtu.be/_8nVJtDc66s
    27.58

    100 free http://youtu.be/20cRClYUSU4
    30.16
    31.13 1:01.29

    200 free http://youtu.be/fZlokSp4w3Y
    31.76
    33.92 1:05.68
    34.07 1:39.75
    33.85 2:13.60

    200 fly http://youtu.be/J8avu2IQfyI
    chowmi is in the nearest lane. Sadly, I don't have the entire race, just the first 100, my 100IM was after the 200 fly.

    Feel free to make fun. If you watch the video with sound there is some commentary from my wife, our friend and her son.
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  13. Monday, Nov. 21

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 05:24 PM (The FAF AFAP Digest)
    Drylands:

    RC exercises
    HS hi row, 110 x 3 x 10
    goblet squats, 30 x 3 x 10
    leg press, 210 x 3 x 10
    deadlifts, 75 x 3 x 10
    triceps press, 40 x 3 x 10

    russian twist on incline w/plate, 25 x 2 x 25
    flutter kick son bosu, 100
    knee tuck jumps, 2 x 10
    altitude drops, 10
    med ball slamming, 5:00


    Swim/SCY/Solo:

    600 various

    20 x 25 shooters w/ MF
    - 8 back, 8 belly, 4 360s

    3 x 100 kick dolphin kick on back w/MF @ 1:30
    (shooter first length)
    3 x 50 caterpillar drill
    3 x 50 single arm fly
    3 x 100 breast w/MF @ 1:45

    50 EZ

    5 x
    4 x 25 easy speed fly w/fins @ noodler interval
    25 EZ

    100 EZ

    Total: 2750

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I was completely booked yesterday and didn't train. Today, I dropped weight and did speed lifting at the gym. My elbows are still bothering me. I may just knock off upper body weights if they don't improve in a couple days. Then immediately hit the pool for a hypoxic/aerobic workout. I wanted to do a bit more and thought I had another 15 minutes. But I was kicked out by the HS kids who seemed enamored with my MF.

    I'm leaving with Teen Fort in the early afternoon tomorrow. The weather forecast looks good! I will try to get to the pool in the am to do some blasto bursts and 25s. I should also probably get myself registered for NE Champs tonight.

    Had a great chat with Fort Son yesterday. He said his coach assigned him to post the freshman rowing workouts for Thanksgiving break. All freshman are supposed to do "at least 50% of his workouts." Fort Son is probably the smallest rower on the team (where, like swimming, height is a benefit), but the hardest worker.

    Updated November 21st, 2011 at 06:59 PM by The Fortress

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  14. Nov 21, 2011

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 04:19 PM (Canuck Countdown)
    202 days until Day 1 of the FINA World Masters Championships

    Sunday, Nov 20
    Kinsmen Aquatic Centre
    Competition Pool (50m)

    warmup:
    300 swim
    6 x 50 kick @ 1:00
    200 swim
    4 x 50 kick @ 1:00

    10 x 50 as 25 scull / 25 drill @ 1:20

    the following set is continuous:
    8 x 50 free pull @ 1:00 (breath every 3, 5, 7, 9) x 2
    4 x 50 back pull @ 1:00
    8 x 50 free pull @ 1:00 (breath every 3, 5, 7, 9) x 2
    4 x 50 breast pull @ 1:10

    the following swim-with-fins set is continuous:
    4 x
    (3 x 50 @ :45,
    200 @ 3:30 (held between 2:32 and 2:38))

    100 EZ

    Total Distance = 4200 m

    Comments: Thankfully, I'm feeling much better now. I went to a walk-in clinic on Saturday morning and walked out with a prescription for antibiotics. I've had too many episodes of bronchitis / pneumonia / strep throat to let this go any longer!

    Monday, Nov 21
    Yoga!

    Updated November 28th, 2011 at 01:57 PM by lewba

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  15. Sarasota Y Sharks Masters 5:30 AM Workout -11/22/11

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 03:31 PM (Sarasota Y Sharks Masters GOLD Workout)
    SCY
    WARM UP:
    1 X 200 3:20
    4 X 100 1:40
    1 X 200 3:00
    3 X 100 1:30
    1 X 200 3:00
    2 X 100 1:30

    1 X 200 kick 4:15
    8 X 50 kick 4 on 1:00 4 on :55

    1 X 50 easy 1:00
    1 X 75 build 1:15
    1 X 50 easy 1:00
    1 X 50 fast 1:15
    Four rounds. All choice.

    1 X 50 easy
    3 X 50 @ 100% 2:00
    1 X 50 easy

    2 X 150 free 2:15
    2 X 150 50 fly/100 free 2:30
    2 X 150 50 fly/50 back/50 free 2:45
    2 X 150 50 fly/50 back/50 breast 2:45
    2 X 150 free 2:15

    WARM DOWN: 4 X 50 easy 1:00

    4950Y
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  16. Nassau County Aquatic Meet

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 01:16 PM (Too Neurotic to be Suitably Aquatic)
    I went to the AquaFit meet at the Nassau County Aquatic Center yesterday. Accompanied by only two other team members - FISH took first place in the small teams division! And that was first out of 11, so it was actually a thing.

    I went for a bear of a set list, and this was Short Course Meters:

    Carolyn Bennett, 33:
    200 Meter Freestyle - 2:49.05
    50 Meter Backstroke - 46.40
    200 Meter Breaststroke - 3:44.10
    100 Meter Butterfly - 1:52.00
    200 Meter IM - 3:28.46

    Again, I'm really not happy with my 200 free. It was a second slower than my last go a year ago. The swim felt good, but for a sluggish feeling that set in during the last 50. Even with that, I thought I was on pace to do better than last time, but then I looked at the clock, and there's just no improvement. These were my splits:
    39.09 1:22.08 (42.99) 2:05.01 (42.93) 2:49.05 (44.04)

    I have a few theories on this:
    1) I'm tried. I'm swimming more now than I have ever before, and I might need some rest to let the yardage sink in. (About a week ago, my FLOG total surpassed last year's.)
    2) I'm lacking the innate athleticism one needs to endure a 200. Can I possibly make this up with more swimming or working out? Or weight lifting? If that is the case, I need to alter my current plan.
    3) I stopped doing yoga. Last fall and winter, I went fairly regularly every Tuesday night. I think there was something to that. I stopped going because I'm trying to be careful with my spending, but I can't manage to do an hour of continuous yoga unless I'm paying for a class.
    4) I'm on a plateau. I need a plan to get off it. Could use some coaching, maybe?
    5) I have some kind of tropical disease that has no symptoms other than that my muscles feel heavy when I use them.
    No matter what the excuse, I'm not yet giving up on my goal to qualify for Nationals in the 200 free. (My swim buddy is convinced that what's going to happen is that I'm going to get to Greensboro and swim the qualifying time there.)

    As far as the other races yesterday, I recovered from my minor 200 free disappointment, and I was pretty happy with them. The 100 fly was a bit ridiculous, but that was just a few minutes after the 200 free, and I had no goal but to finish legally. I kind of dig that it ended in a .00.
    The 200 breast was good fun, and I dropped about 15 seconds off the last time I swam it by keeping my eyes on the black line and working my glide.
    Also, I'm happy with dropping two seconds off the 50 back, a stroke I've been swimming with more frequency.
    The 200 IM I was also glad to just finish legally. It was the last event of the day, and I was jelly. My two teammates stood on the side and cheered, and I'm convinced that was what kept me from stopping after the fly was over. It felt nice to do some freestyle again!

    Other notes on the meet:
    What a great social event! It's always nice to see Ms. Swimsuit Addict in person, and I also bumped into some swimmers I've met during my visits to Westchester. I know there were some other fourumites there, but the meet went a little too quickly for me to have time to make new friends.

    Also, my sister and her husband were able to stop by because they live in Long Island, very close to the pool. I look forward to the day that they have kids so I can come visit and take 'em swimming.

    This was the first masters meet for one of our teammates, and she was great fun to have along. She's in my age group and swims in our lane and faster than me, so I'm looking forward to having the competitive push I need to help get me off the damn plateau.

    Congrats to everyone who was there, and thanks to Lisa and AquaFit for running yet another exceptional meet! (I've got my hardware all up here on my cubicle wall now.)

    Updated November 21st, 2011 at 01:38 PM by swimmerb212

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  17. Outrage No Mas

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 12:53 PM (Vlog the Inhaler, or The Occasional Video Blog Musings of Jim Thornton)
    Enough dragging things out.

    I want and need to move on, so I shall try to finish this Triptych of Outrage as quickly as possible. So here’s what happened:

    1. After the Clarion University snafu/cluster**** last spring, I was determined to never again make the mistake of counting on a local meet to be sanctioned, recognized, or whatever else is required to have times count for Top Ten consideration.

    2. Last summer, knowing I had no chance of affording to travel to Auburn, knowing furthermore that I’d be taking my son to college the same weekend as the annual U. MD meet where I usually swim my one USMS LCM meet per summer, I opted to go instead to another annual meet up in Cleveland.

    3. This is in a very nice pool and used to be run by Jack Groselle and O*H*I*O masters. The one time I had swum it before, all my times counted.

    4. The drawback, in the past, had been that it was a 1-day meet, which makes it hard to try for the free style quinella (50, 100, 200, 400, and 800).

    5. But this year, to my delight, I found the meet was being turned into a 2-day meet, name changed to the SynergyFest Inaugural Swim Meet. It was officially sanctioned by the Lake Erie LMSC. Sanction number 18-072923111-LCM.

    6. So I signed up, booked the absolutely cheapest hotel room I could find within driving distance, and signed up for the 5 offered freestyles (I will paste in my results at the bottom of this.)

    7. The meet, unfortunately, was not terribly well attended, probably because they also scheduled a 2-mile open water swim in Lake Erie at the same time as the pool swim, forcing devotees of both to pick one or the other.

    8. According to the meet’s predicted timeline (and I may be a few minutes off here, plus or minus), warm ups started at 9 a.m., the first event of the day would start at 10 a.m., and all the day’s events would be done by approximately 6 p.m.

    9. Unfortunately, the actual timeline was more like this: warm ups 9 a.m., first even 10 a.m., meet over 10:45 a.m. It was absurd! The starter tried to drag things out a little bit, but with only one or two heats for most of the events, the amount of rest between swims was minimal.

    10. On the second day (and again, please forgive me if the details here are a little off), I swam the 800, had about 40 minutes of rest, swam the 50, got out of the water, and was told the 200 would be starting in approximately 4 minutes! I saw on the event sheet that there was going to be a 200 backstroke/OPEN later on, and this would provide me with about 15-20 minutes rest before what is usually my best event. So I asked the meet judge if it would be okay to swim my 200 free then instead. I explained that I was really hoping to make a Top 10 time, and I thought having more than 4 minutes rest after my 50 (and earlier 800) would optimize my chances.

    11. The judge okayed it. Again, I told him I was really trying to make a top 10 time, and I asked him if switching to the 200 OPEN would screw this up. He said no.

    12. So I swam the 200, did reasonably well for me, and drove back to Pittsburgh, confident that this time, at least, I had given myself a fighting chance of picking up a few Top 10 times that would absolutely, 100 percent, no-snafu possibilities anywhere on the horizon, count—provided, that is, my times were good enough to count.

    13. I will now paste in my meet results and the Top Ten results that were just certified a few weeks ago.

    14. Please glance at these and then return for a final word or two about what happened.






    The keen observer will note that my name doesn’t appear in the 200 in the TT list even though my time of 2:18.10 would have just squeaked me ahead of the legendary Larry Wood.

    The keen observer will also notice that my name does appear in the 400, though this is very unlikely to last.

    Why?

    Here’s why.

    When a forum poster pointed out that the preliminary LCM listings were up, I immediately checked to see if I had made any TT times. The area of the website read as follows:

    2011 USMS Top Ten LCM for Men 55-59
    This is a preliminary top ten listing for proofreading purposes only. Report any errors to Mary Beth Windrath.

    Noting that my 200 wasn’t listed, I immediately emailed Mary Beth, who is an unflappably kind person with what seems like a thankless job—collating TT times and making sure they all comply with rules that people like me, evidently, have never heard of.

    When I wrote Mary Beth, I was as confident of 100 percent vindication as I was when I told Mr. Glarow that I had, in fact, written down the correct answer of 5 on my math test, only to learn that he thought I had written an S.

    Here is our email exchange:

    Hi, Mary Beth,

    Can you check the LCM 200 free in men 55-59? I swam a 2:18.10 something at the Synergy meet in Cleveland (which is where my other TT times came from in the 100, 400, and 800), but for some reason, the 200 was left out of the preliminary list.

    Thanks for taking a look. From Event Rankings:

    6 Thornton, James 59 2:18.10 1776 SynergyFest
    Inaugural Swim Meet

    Hi Jim,

    Event 15 was 200 Open, which is not a valid event for Top Ten, so none of the times from that event can count. That's why you don't see it. Only distances and strokes listed in article 102.5 are considered for top ten and records.

    Sorry about that!
    Mary Beth

    Are you kidding me?

    It was freestyle! They never said anything about this not counting at the meet.

    There were a total of about 35 people at the whole meet, so the events had approximately 5 minutes between them. I asked the guy if I could switch from the 200 free to swimming it in the 200 Open so I could get 15 minutes rest after something else I had just swum.

    He said that was fine, never mentioned anything about it not counting. I only went there to try to get some TT times.

    This is a case of where the USMS rules are just, in my opinion, utterly mean-spirited to swimmers who don't have the money to travel to big meets.

    What is the rationale for this?

    PS Sorry for seeming peeved, but I would have been 3rd in the 1000 SCY free, too, last year, but the meet got invalidated because of weird bureaucratic minutiae. I just feel the slogan, "We do it all for the swimmer," which I heard endlessly at the one convention I attended, is a total misrepresentation.

    Jim

    Hi Jim,

    You're not going to like what else I have to tell you, but I wanted to give you a heads up. The 400 Open was also listed as an event in that meet and the swimmers show up in the preliminary top ten, but will be removed for the final top ten. If it's any consolation, the times still are showing up in the event rankings.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

    Mary Beth

    Thanks, Mary Beth. You have been very kind about this, and I realize that with situations like this, you have a thankless job. I might write a vlog about this, but I will make sure to state clearly that you were extremely decent about it.

    I just think it's an absolutely ridiculous rule and that they should come up with some other way to designate non counting swims--a 400 Fun Swim, for instance, where it's clear to the participants that the race won't count for anything.

    My problem is I live in Pittsburgh, there are virtually no USMS meets nearby, so if I ever want to try to make the top ten, I have to drive to Cleveland or DC. This summer, I drove to Cleveland for the two day Synergy meet, which was clearly sanctioned, etc. So few people attended that there was often only one or two heats of each event. I think I swam the 50, then had 5 minutes before the 200, which I really wanted to try to make the Top 10 in. I asked the meet director if I could switch and have it still count, and he said yes.

    I think there was a similar rational for the 400 Open vs. the 400 Free--no rest between events. And by no rest, I really do mean minimal rest. With only 35 people at the whole two day meet, it ran awfully fast. Warm ups were at 9:00, and the timeline said each day would end by 6 p.m. But both days the events were over by around 10:30.

    All this comes on top of last spring's meet at Clarion, where the pool was measured, there were two certified officials, there was a USMS observer, etc. But someone failed to turn the paperwork in, so my personal all-time top finish in the TT didn't count either.

    I just feel the rules are stacked in the favor of regions that have tons of USMS meets and/or swimmers wealthy enough to travel, pay for hotels, etc.

    I shouldn't be so petty, but there you have it.

    Jim

    Hi Jim,

    Small meets are always tough for everyone to get enough rest, especially if they really want to do well. For this particular meet, we've since notified the official folks about alternative ways to word the meet information, so that times would be valid for top ten. Let's hope that in the future they change the way it was handled. Unfortunately, sometimes we only really learn things the hard way.

    If you have suggestions on how to get the word out about "open" or "Choice"
    events not being valid for top ten, please pass them on. Or perhaps you have a suggested rule change.

    Good luck at future meets.
    Mary Beth

    Okay, I am more or less spent. I only ask that someone familiar with the rules explain why “Open” events can’t count at least for freestyle. Obviously, you can’t expect a time to count if you are using fins or a pull buoy or an underwater torpedo sled. But are there really meets anywhere that allow such items? Assuming you aren’t using some illegal device, is there anything else that can invalidate freestyle (for example, does the 15 m underwater SDK limit apply to freestyle?)

    I propose that in the future, the word OPEN (which many of us grew up thinking simply meant that the event was “open” to any age group) be changed to UNOFFFICIAL. Otherwise, it’s just too confusing to the odd individual like me who does not enjoy curling up with a rule book.

    They say that “once stung, twice shy.”

    I have now been thrice stung.

    They also say, “a nerve struck too many times dies.”

    I greatly fear my USMS nerves are dead.
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  18. Sat Nov 19th, 2011

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 12:37 PM (Ande's Swimming Blog)
    Sat Nov 19th, 2011

    Trained but didn't blog
    FAST Fri Nov 18
    6:30 - 8:00 maint set
    5 x 100 fast in heats on 12:00

    Upcoming Meet

    Sat Dec 3rd & Sun Dec 4th
    2011 South Central SCM Regional Invitational
    San Antonio, TX
    DAYS TILL


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    Masters didn't have practice on
    Sat May 19th because there was a UT football game but the UT men did & I trained with them

    Eddie Coached
    scy & LCM
    UT Swim Center: main pool & diving well
    9:00 - 11:00
    wore FSII legs
    trained with UT Mens team

    WARM UP scy

    4 x 100 1:20
    6 x 50 :45
    200 k 3:30 went 2:30
    4 x 100
    200 k 3:30 went 2:21


    Main SET: LCM

    swimmers put on jammers

    assigned 2 rounds of
    3 x 100 fast on 2:00
    4 x 50 fast on 1:00
    in 2 groups

    round 1)
    100 easy speed went 1:04
    100 skip
    100 easy speed went 1:01
    4 x 50 fast went 30's

    swam down in well (10 min break)

    round 2
    100 skip
    100 skip
    100 fast 59
    50 easy
    skipped 2 50's
    50 fl fast from a dive went 27

    100 easy
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  19. Meet Results and Monday's Workout

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 12:23 PM (Year Three: The Road Back)
    Having decided to take a relaxing, stretch-out swim on Saturday (total yards 2200 - nothing taxing), I headed to Louisville, KY, with 6 of my teammates for the Louisville Invitational. In keeping with my theme of getting outside my comfort zone, I decided to race the 50, 100, 200, and 400 Free events (SCM). I had never done a 200 in SCM or a 400 in any format. The 400 was up first, followed by the 50, 100, then 200.

    400 Free - 5:57.12 - Not bad for the first time out. I learned that I can go a bit harder in the 2nd and 3rd hundred, but was really happy that my last 100 was faster than my 2nd or 3rd. (And, I actually lapped the guy next to me.... huh... that felt good )

    50 Free - 34.92 - Decent. It's only 0.3 seconds off my best ever 50 Free SCM. Can't complain about that. My only complaint here is that I feel like I could have gone harder and it didn't hurt as bad as it could have.

    100 Free - 1:16.76 - Not bad, although this one REALLY hurt. It was 0.1 seconds faster than my previous best time.

    200 Free - 2:49.21 - This was great. It felt relaxed, but ended up being faster than I had expected. A great way to end the meet.

    My only real issue with this meet was that I never got a great flip turn. There is a metal edge at the top of the pool and I was slipping all over the place. Ugh.....

    Then, I woke up this morning with fairly sore shoulders, but headed to the pool anyway. Joy of joys.... my husband came with me! He's thinking of joining my team and wanted to see what our workouts were like! Here's what we did today:

    400 Warm-Up
    4 x 100 Free on 1:40
    4 x 100 Free on 1:50
    4 x 100 Pull on 1:40
    4 x 100 Kick on 1:50
    1 x 200 All Drill IM on 4:00
    4 x 50 Fly on 1:05
    4 x 50 Breast on 1:00
    4 x 50 Back on :55
    4 x 50 Free on :50
    4 x 25 Breast on :40
    4 x 25 Fly on :35
    4 x 25 Back on :30
    4 x 25 Free on :25
    200 Cool-Down
    Total Yards - 3500

    This wasn't exactly the meet warm-down swim I was looking for, as it was exhausting. Probably would have been fine most other days, but it almost did me in today.

    That's it for now. Enjoy your swims today!
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  20. 4 K quick 11/21/11

    by , November 21st, 2011 at 11:18 AM (The Labours of SwimStud)
    Well had an appointment at 9 so picked my "fast yardage" workout.

    Warm
    300 Swim
    20 x 25 K :30 with fins every 4th hard.

    Main
    Pyramid or whatever it's called
    100-500-100 1:40 base wearing snorkel.

    Cool
    500 Fin Kick on back FR/FLY by 50
    200 EZ
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