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  1. Calvin S's Avatar
    thanks guys!
  2. rxleakem's Avatar
    Great meet Calvin!
  3. Calvin S's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by aztimm
    Years ago (when I first started swimming with USMS teams), I probably would have agreed with that Y definition. Not sure if it is that there isn't as much of a gap between those who swam in college and myself, or that I'm just getting over it...but I think that's rather silly. The fastest person should win.

    That isn't to say I wouldn't be opposed to having a, "beginner," meet (or whatever you want to call it), that essentially is geared for first-timers. When I did the local LCM meet a few weeks ago I was surprised to see a few guys swimming in board shorts, at a meet. After being at nationals, where it seemed everyone wore high-tech gear, it was quite a change.
    To me amateur means I never received payment for my performances. I mean, how can the YMCA say I am not an amateur having competed for a college team, when we publicly uphold the righteousness and purity of the NCAA athlete as an amateur who cannot receive anything for their performances? I am lumping everyone into that "we". I won't even begin to crack open the can of worms that is "should college athletes get paid" on my blog comment section. But yeah, if NCAA athletes are supposed to already be amateurs, then why does the YMCA consider collegiate swimming participation to be a forfeiture of said status?

    I am sure someone in some board room can tell me their reason why. But I also try to frame it as sports karma. I spent 5 summers (one after each year of college and then the following summer after living at home for a year) dominating the breaststrokes in my local YMCA league. I know I chafed a lot of people, especially by doing things like cruising/not shaving for prelims and then bringing my A game to finals. I am pretty sure that locally my actions have at least a little to do with the strict upholding of this amateur rule, and I am 100% sure you could call the rule that says collegiate (read the "non amateurs") swimmers at out league championship are automatically scratched from finals the "Calvin Rule."
  4. aztimm's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin S
    Means I cannot score. YMCA has a very narrow definition of "amateur." According to them, once you receive anything for swimming, you lose that status. So even though I was a non scholarship athlete, the fact that my college team covered costs such as hotel/travel for away meets and conference means I am not an amateur. I don't agree with it, but it is what it is.
    Years ago (when I first started swimming with USMS teams), I probably would have agreed with that Y definition. Not sure if it is that there isn't as much of a gap between those who swam in college and myself, or that I'm just getting over it...but I think that's rather silly. The fastest person should win.

    That isn't to say I wouldn't be opposed to having a, "beginner," meet (or whatever you want to call it), that essentially is geared for first-timers. When I did the local LCM meet a few weeks ago I was surprised to see a few guys swimming in board shorts, at a meet. After being at nationals, where it seemed everyone wore high-tech gear, it was quite a change.
  5. Doug Martin's Avatar
    Thatís a nice fly Calvin!
  6. Calvin S's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl_S
    What's this "exhibition" restriction? Register too late?
    Oh well, trust me, the other swimmers know they got beat.
    Means I cannot score. YMCA has a very narrow definition of "amateur." According to them, once you receive anything for swimming, you lose that status. So even though I was a non scholarship athlete, the fact that my college team covered costs such as hotel/travel for away meets and conference means I am not an amateur. I don't agree with it, but it is what it is.
  7. Karl_S's Avatar
    What's this "exhibition" restriction? Register too late?
    Oh well, trust me, the other swimmers know they got beat.
  8. tripswim's Avatar
    good job. faster tomorrow.

    omahog
  9. Calvin S's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by __steve__
    Chris Stevenson said his coach had him swim 50 LC nbís on 1:00!
    For me, 5- 10 x 1breath 25mís on 0:30 i call lung busters
    Same coach used to have us do 50s on 1:15 swim NB or on 1:30 underwater kick/pullouts no breath (4 at a time).

    These days the closest I come to that is my Rouse 100s, which is (starting at 15M mark) a 15M underwater FL kick, into a flip turn, into a 50M cruise kick on back, into a flip turn, into 35M underwater FL kick back to the original start point. Done with fins, I usually do them on 2:30. Iíve done them on as fast as 1:45 years ago. 2:30 is ample recovery time because it usually takes about 1:25 to complete the full 100 meters.

    EDIT: by same coach I mean same coach who had me doing the lungbusters in my previous post, NOT Chris Stevensonís coach!
  10. __steve__'s Avatar
    Chris Stevenson said his coach had him swim 50 LC nbís on 1:00!
    For me, 5- 10 x 1breath 25mís on 0:30 i call lung busters
  11. Calvin S's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JPEnge
    No, what they were was underwater to a random black line on the bottom, flip turn in space, underwater back. So it was trying to work on lungs (hence the name) and also accelerating from no push off. It was longer than 25 but mine were really sloppy so I just called it 25 :P
    Amazing how coaches use the same terminology for different things. Lung busters for us were always long (usually pull) sets where you breathed on the first stroke, then every 2, then 3, then 4, so on until you failed, then you started over again. My coach in high school used to love throwing out 6x400 pull LCM lungbusters. The turn counted for 2 strokes.
  12. JPEnge's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by __steve__
    Were the lungbusters done has 25nbís?
    No, what they were was underwater to a random black line on the bottom, flip turn in space, underwater back. So it was trying to work on lungs (hence the name) and also accelerating from no push off. It was longer than 25 but mine were really sloppy so I just called it 25 :P
  13. __steve__'s Avatar
    Were the lungbusters done has 25nbís?
  14. aztimm's Avatar
    Glad to hear that you at least got in some swimming!
    I did a short cruise (I think 3 days) about 13 years ago, and the pool on the ship was a joke. I resigned myself to just using the treadmill on the ship.
    Your description of swimming over the ray remind me of when I swam/snorkled the Great Barrier reef last Oct.