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  1. JSC910's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JPEnge
    Well, I was a 200 backstroker (and 400 IMer) in college, so... it's there somewhere. But I did the 200 free and 200 back at Masters Nats last year and I definitely landed a piano on my back the last 50 of both of those. Really have to work on strategizing since I have much more muscle to go into oxygen debt now than I did back then...
    I did 200/500/1000 FR and 200 BR in college. I'm trying to fashion myself into 100FR and 100IM... the thought of racing for more than a minute seems impossible! Maybe in 2020.
  2. JPEnge's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JSC910
    Good for you for even considering 200's! As I've posted elsewhere I am just.... barely... getting back in shape after a long layoff. I emailed the meet registrar for Mesa last night to make 200FR my 6th event as I not remotely in shape for a 200!

    I do think in SCY and at the age I am now (36), walls, turns, starts etc are lower hanging fruit than simply being in insanely great shape and able to just muscle through.
    Well, I was a 200 backstroker (and 400 IMer) in college, so... it's there somewhere. But I did the 200 free and 200 back at Masters Nats last year and I definitely landed a piano on my back the last 50 of both of those. Really have to work on strategizing since I have much more muscle to go into oxygen debt now than I did back then...
  3. JSC910's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin S
    4/6/2 turns, every warm-up, then every "non-main set" set, then when you are swimming at full speed. That's how I fixed my walls!
    This is a great! Thanks.
  4. JSC910's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JPEnge
    My walls in meets for 50/100s are fine - fl/bk I take 9 UDKs off the start (8 in fly if I'm tapered so I don't get too close to 15m :P ) and 7 off each turn, freestyle 7/5. But my walls are a lot more significant for me now than in college so if I want to stretch back up to the 200s eventually I'm going to have to stop being lazy at those distances. I probably need 5 per turn on a 200 back and 3-4 on a 200 free. Not going to think about 200 fly yet. Should be doable with a little attention.
    Good for you for even considering 200's! As I've posted elsewhere I am just.... barely... getting back in shape after a long layoff. I emailed the meet registrar for Mesa last night to make 200FR my 6th event as I not remotely in shape for a 200!

    I do think in SCY and at the age I am now (36), walls, turns, starts etc are lower hanging fruit than simply being in insanely great shape and able to just muscle through.
  5. JPEnge's Avatar
    My walls in meets for 50/100s are fine - fl/bk I take 9 UDKs off the start (8 in fly if I'm tapered so I don't get too close to 15m :P ) and 7 off each turn, freestyle 7/5. But my walls are a lot more significant for me now than in college so if I want to stretch back up to the 200s eventually I'm going to have to stop being lazy at those distances. I probably need 5 per turn on a 200 back and 3-4 on a 200 free. Not going to think about 200 fly yet. Should be doable with a little attention.
  6. Calvin S's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JSC910
    Working on the same thing- committing to 3 kicks off the wall... every wall... as someone who swam distance in college and really just used her legs as ballast, this is super different. Hoping to find some ability to sprint because I have NO intention of swimming distance in masters. Keep it up and let me know if you find the secret to making the SDK off the wall a habit instead of a constant focus
    4/6/2 turns, every warm-up, then every "non-main set" set, then when you are swimming at full speed. That's how I fixed my walls!
  7. JSC910's Avatar
    Working on the same thing- committing to 3 kicks off the wall... every wall... as someone who swam distance in college and really just used her legs as ballast, this is super different. Hoping to find some ability to sprint because I have NO intention of swimming distance in masters. Keep it up and let me know if you find the secret to making the SDK off the wall a habit instead of a constant focus
  8. Karl_S's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JPEnge
    I did see him! He's actually coaching the team that I used to swim for when my family lived in Oklahoma City, plus a college team there. It's funny, he swam in the Olympics before 99% of the people swimming at that meet were even alive. Hardly any of the kids on my team even knew who he was!
    I'm glad you got a chance to educate those wippersnappers
  9. Karl_S's Avatar
    'never heard of a Sectional rule about 18&U for the D final. There are a few meets around here with a 14&U D final. I tend to agree with your argument about a sectional level meet. If it's an open meet with a single set of qtims, it seems appropriate that the finals be open as well. For an age-group meet, swimming multiple age groups together for prelims but separately for finals seems like it would be a good way to go.
  10. Calvin S's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl_S
    I saw Josh Davis in the results. (You beat him )
    Did you see him there?
    Must be nice to be 46 and scoring a second swim at sectionals...
    Actually he didn't get a second swim because our Sectional has an 18&U only policy for the D final lol. Personally, I think the rule is stupid because when you get to a meet on the level of Sectionals and above, it's all open swimming and we shouldn't designate certain ages from being able to participate. Also, at Sprint Sectionals, swimmers over 18 make up such a small percentage of the total number of swimmers (the number is a little larger for Summer Sectionals when all the college kids are back) that it doesn't make much of a difference anyways.

    I have been screwed by this rule numerous times. I also dislike how I can never get a straight answer on it. One meet, I was 17th (back when they only took 3 final heats and the C final was 18&U) and I went up to the scratch table to see if I had been scratched into the B final. I had been, only someone had already "auto scratched" me as soon as results posted.

    If you earn a second swim, you deserve a second swim, regardless of age. Not everyone wins a trophy.

    /rant off
    sorry to hijack your blog post about a fantastic meet, Jeff!
  11. JPEnge's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl_S
    I saw Josh Davis in the results. (You beat him )
    Did you see him there?
    Must be nice to be 46 and scoring a second swim at sectionals...
    I did see him! He's actually coaching the team that I used to swim for when my family lived in Oklahoma City, plus a college team there. It's funny, he swam in the Olympics before 99% of the people swimming at that meet were even alive. Hardly any of the kids on my team even knew who he was!
  12. Karl_S's Avatar
    I saw Josh Davis in the results. (You beat him )
    Did you see him there?
    Must be nice to be 46 and scoring a second swim at sectionals...
  13. miklcct's Avatar
    I prefer pools in 65 to 75, depending on the intensity of the training.
  14. JPEnge's Avatar
    No, it was all good, we still won by 200 points. I checked with the coaches to make sure, because I specifically didn't want to hurt the team score when we were in the lead from the very first event.
  15. Karl_S's Avatar
    Congratulation on what sounds like a landmark meet for you!
    50 Breast - 26.77, 8th place prelims - Lost track of time and forgot to warm up but went surprisingly well anyway! Was hard to scratch out of a championship finals but I wanted to get home by this point.
    I hope that didn't cost your team a placing...
  16. rxleakem's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin S
    You mean 20:34? Don't sell yourself short, bro.
    Fixed it. Thanks man!
  17. Calvin S's Avatar
    You mean 20:34? Don't sell yourself short, bro.
  18. Calvin S's Avatar
    Go get you some!
  19. JPEnge's Avatar
    Actually, I just found the rules on measurement. Mizzou length is on record according to the list I found, so this'll be even easier than I thought...

    "The measurement rules and policies of USA Swimming shall be the standard for Top 10 eligibility forevents sanctioned by USA-S. Currently USA-S only requires bulkhead placement measurements fornational records, so times achieved by USMS at USA-S meets are eligible for Top 10 considerationwithout bulkhead measurements. The measurement rules and policies of USMS shall apply for dualsanctioned events, so at these meets bulkhead measurements must be performed for times to beconsidered for either USMS Top 10 or Records."
  20. JPEnge's Avatar
    Oh, I've talked to our Top Ten person - technically, I am Top Ten person in training, actually, so I work with her a lot.

    Plus one of the LMSC board members who used to do lots of USA-S meets will be there officiating so she can help. And one of the meet organizers is a Masters person. I think I'll be good!
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