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Getting in some sprinting

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This morning I went to the early AGUA practice. Hereís what we did (mutatis mutandis for taper):

200 lcm warmup

300 FR + 200 IM drill (2nd warmup)

8 x 50, 2 of each stroke, IM order, @ :20ish rest

5x thru:
200 IM
100 FR
50 Stroke (IM order)
50 easy FR
[I took an on-deck stretching interlude during the first 200 IM, and thereafter did the rest of the set, substituting 200 stroke drills/easy swim with fast IM turns for the IM, and doing sprint BR or BK for the 50 stroke.]

300 warmdown + sculling + play

My sprint breaststroke timing was feeling good today for the first time in a whileóI felt like I was able to turn over quickly without losing water. Iím still working on getting my backstroke turnover right. After my 50 BK at the Wilton meet, Coach Craig told me that I was swimming too flat, and shouldnít sacrifice rotation for arm speed (or at least not to the extent that I was doing). My body and I still seem to be negotiating what rate of turnover still allows me to get enough body rotation when Iím sprinting.

Yesterday afternoon I went over to the Y for a short on-my-own swim. I did

1000 warmup

8 x 25 FR, odds build quickly to sprint, evens easy

400 warmdown

I would usually do the sprint 25s to feet, but I realized one thing Iím glad about for Zones is that I will not have to do any flipturns in any of my races! (I donít count backstroke turns as flipturns). For some reason, freestyle turns are my least favorite of all the swim turns. I will get to do all the other 5 possible turns (thatís counting butterfly and breaststroke turns as the same) exactly once over the course of my 6 races.

(Math question of the day: How many possible combinations of events would the above info hold true for?)

10 more days til Zones!

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  1. qbrain's Avatar
    I would usually do the sprint 25s to feet
    You really are an overachiever.

    All combinations require the 200IM, a 100 back, any number of 50s and either the 100 fly OR the 100 breast. So 10 not counting relays.
  2. swimsuit addict's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by qbrain
    You really are an overachiever.
    Thanks! I think so too.

    Quote Originally Posted by qbrain
    All combinations require the 200IM, a 100 back, any number of 50s and either the 100 fly OR the 100 breast. So 10 not counting relays.
    uh-oh, my math is not agreeing with yours, and you are qbrain. That's not a good sign. I came up with 8 if you limit it to 6 events, 32 if any number of individual events are allowed. Back to the drawing board, or at least the warmdown pool, which is the only place my brain seems compelled to ponder these mysteries.
  3. pwolf66's Avatar
    Using individual events only

    LCM: all 4 50s (no turns), all 4 100s (each stroke turn), 200 IM (all three transition turns) for a total of 9
    SCM/SCY: all 4 50s (each stroke turn), 100 IM (all three transition turns) for a total of 5
  4. qbrain's Avatar
    do all the other 5 possible turns (that’s counting butterfly and breaststroke turns as the same) exactly once
    I agree with 32 combinations, but I never exceeded 6 events. My explanation matches 32, but my count, eek, only allows for 0 or 1 50 which doesn't match anything.

    Here is the list:


    1 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl, 50fr, 50br, 50bk
    2 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl, 50fr, 50br
    3 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl, 50fr, 50bk
    4 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl, 50fr
    5 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl, 50br, 50bk
    6 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl, 50br
    7 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl, 50bk
    8 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fl
    9 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fr, 50br, 50bk
    10 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fr, 50br
    11 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fr, 50bk
    12 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50fr
    13 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50br, 50bk
    14 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50br
    15 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl, 50bk
    16 - 200IM, 100bk, 100fl
    17 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl, 50fr, 50br, 50bk
    18 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl, 50fr, 50br
    19 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl, 50fr, 50bk
    20 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl, 50fr
    21 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl, 50br, 50bk
    22 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl, 50br
    23 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl, 50bk
    24 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fl
    25 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fr, 50br, 50bk
    26 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fr, 50br
    27 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fr, 50bk
    28 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50fr
    29 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50br, 50bk
    30 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50br
    31 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br, 50bk
    32 - 200IM, 100bk, 100br
    Updated August 12th, 2010 at 01:41 PM by qbrain (Fixed the error in my list)
  5. swimsuit addict's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by qbrain
    I agree with 32 combinations, but I never exceeded 6 events.
    I think to get 32 combinations you need to allow for the possibility of seven events--ie 2IM + 100 BK + (100 FL or BR) + the following combinations of 50s:

    no 50s (1 possible way to do this)

    1 of the 4 50s (4 possible ways to do this)

    2 of the 4 50s (4-choose-2, order doesn't matter, so (4 x 3)/2!, or 6 possible permutations)

    3 of the 4 50s (or put another way, excluding just 1 of the 4, so 4 possible permutations, or (4 x 3 x 2)/3! if you go the long way round)

    or all of the 4 50s (1 possible way to do this, but it would make for 7 total events)

    Considering all the above would yield

    1 x 1 x 2 x (1 + 4 + 6 + 4 + 1), or 32 event combinations.

    If you limit the combinations to 6 events or fewer, you get 1 x 1 x 2 x (1+ 4 + 6 + 4), or just 30 combinations. (I think some of the combinations on your list are inadvertantly repeated, such as 1-4 and 5-8.)

    When I calculated 8 combinations when limiting it to 6 events, I meant to say limiting it to exactly six events--I wasn't precise enough in my original wording.

    And if you open it up for short course events, as Paul has, well, that's just a whole nother kettle of fish.
  6. qbrain's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by swimsuit addict
    I think to get 32 combinations you need to allow for the possibility of seven events--ie 2IM + 100 BK + (100 FL or BR) + the following combinations of 50s:

    no 50s (1 possible way to do this)

    1 of the 4 50s (4 possible ways to do this)

    2 of the 4 50s (4-choose-2, order doesn't matter, so (4 x 3)/2!, or 6 possible permutations)

    3 of the 4 50s (or put another way, excluding just 1 of the 4, so 4 possible permutations, or (4 x 3 x 2)/3! if you go the long way round)

    or all of the 4 50s (1 possible way to do this, but it would make for 7 total events)

    Considering all the above would yield

    1 x 1 x 2 x (1 + 4 + 6 + 4 + 1), or 32 event combinations.

    If you limit the combinations to 6 events or fewer, you get 1 x 1 x 2 x (1+ 4 + 6 + 4), or just 30 combinations. (I think some of the combinations on your list are inadvertantly repeated, such as 1-4 and 5-8.)

    When I calculated 8 combinations when limiting it to 6 events, I meant to say limiting it to exactly six events--I wasn't precise enough in my original wording.

    And if you open it up for short course events, as Paul has, well, that's just a whole nother kettle of fish.
    Sadly, I woke up in the middle of the night and thought "Oh no, there are two 7 event combinations in my list. Swimsuit Addict is going to be so disappointed in me."

    I will no longer comment on your blog without double checking my math.
  7. swimsuit addict's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by qbrain
    Sadly, I woke up in the middle of the night and thought "Oh no, there are two 7 event combinations in my list. Swimsuit Addict is going to be so disappointed in me."
    That's nothing. I couldn't fall asleep at all last night worrying over how you came up with your solution.

    Maybe less math will lead to better sleep all around.
  8. qbrain's Avatar
    Ok, I looked at my solution, and noticed there was an error in the list. It is fixed now.

    I am going to forget about this now, and stop reading your blog

    Sixteen simple math mistakes is too much stress for me. I am seeking happiness in life now.