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Tuesday, Dec. 8

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Couldn't get to the pool today. Was stuck at home waiting for a delivery. Then had a massage at 12:30. The rest of the day was taken up with kid activities and decorating the Xmas tree (another allergen, lol). (Speedo, I had Suzie today; she was pretty good, but I think Erica is better.) I apparently have tight calves, pecs and neck. No surprise, as I haven't stretched much this week and swimmers are known for their chronically tight necks.

I did do my RC exercises. The left shoulder is slowly coming around. I do have a little twinge in my right knee that I've had for awhile. Not sure, but I am thinking it is due to some of the Bikram yoga moves (sitting Japanese style and all the locking of the knees). I can't think what else could have triggered it ... I don't think it will effect anything, just noting it.

Q, I had a gluten free bagel with peanut butter today and it wasn't that bad. I think I'll bring some along to the meet along with my rice crispie bars.

As seen in the recent thread on the DF, I am actually considering doing a 200 fly. It seems that pulling is optional. Does anyone have any ideas about the right combination of kicking and swimming that would maximize speed, save the shoulders and be easiest? I might do it at this meet: http://www.pvswim.org/0910meet/10-31-ma.htm All us "13 & Overs" get to swim in the afternoon, so that's pretty sweet for me as the pool is not close.

Results from TYR SCM meet in Chicago:

http://www.tyrgrandprix.com/files/20...%20Results.htm

I think everyone has seen the LB and CZ results. I got bumped a couple spots in the 100 fly by speedsters AJ Block and Lisa Ward. I'm always amazed at people who can take their 100 fly out close to their 50 time and just keep going ... I can't do that at all. Of course, AJ and Lisa, are much more mid-D to D specialists.

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Updated December 9th, 2009 at 12:49 AM by The Fortress

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  1. Chris Stevenson's Avatar
    "Of course, AJ and Lisa, are much more mid-D to D specialists." They are tough swimming goddesses, in other words.

    Given your shoulders, why do you want to do a 200 fly, no matter how you swim it? Why not a 200 back? You are pretty good at that.
  2. qbrain's Avatar
    I believe full lock outs of the joint is bad. Any joint.

    Glad the bagel was edible. If you occasionally like bread products as a side to a meal, look up Brazilian cheese rolls and try to find Cheeba (I think that is how you spell it) breadstick mix. Both make tasty chewy (in a good way) sides.

    I agree with Aquaman, but for a totally different reason. Who in their right mind wants to do the 200 fly?
  3. Chris Stevenson's Avatar
    The 200 fly is the best swimming event, of course; apparently even "pure" sprinters fall under its spell.

    If I had any kind of breaststroke, the 400 IM would probably be my favorite event. It is not for the faint of heart and I imagine it is interesting to train for.

    As a spectator, I think IM races are the most interesting to watch because of the potential for reversals and lead-changes.
  4. The Fortress's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson
    "Of course, AJ and Lisa, are much more mid-D to D specialists." They are tough swimming goddesses, in other words.

    Given your shoulders, why do you want to do a 200 fly, no matter how you swim it? Why not a 200 back? You are pretty good at that.
    Diva!

    I'm just intrigued with the idea of kicking it. That wouldn't bother my shoulders. I periodically feel the need to amuse myself with odd events and unconventional swimming.

    I'll likely get in a 200 back at some point. Better short course than long course.
    Updated December 9th, 2009 at 11:11 AM by The Fortress
  5. The Fortress's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by qbrain
    I believe full lock outs of the joint is bad. Any joint.

    Glad the bagel was edible. If you occasionally like bread products as a side to a meal, look up Brazilian cheese rolls and try to find Cheeba (I think that is how you spell it) breadstick mix. Both make tasty chewy (in a good way) sides.

    I agree with Aquaman, but for a totally different reason. Who in their right mind wants to do the 200 fly?
    It's a constant refrain in class "lock the knee, lock the knee, lock the knee" ... A principle of yoga seems to be that it is good to stretch the tendons as well as the muscles. We swimmers all know it's a bad idea to stretch the shoulder tendons; it's probably the same with knees. I've never had a knee problem in my life, and I'd like to keep it that way.

    Yeah, I'll probably get over this 2 fly idea when I realize the pain potential.
    Updated December 9th, 2009 at 11:12 AM by The Fortress
  6. qbrain's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson
    The 200 fly is the best swimming event, of course; apparently even "pure" sprinters fall under its spell.

    If I had any kind of breaststroke, the 400 IM would probably be my favorite event. It is not for the faint of heart and I imagine it is interesting to train for.

    As a spectator, I think IM races are the most interesting to watch because of the potential for reversals and lead-changes.
    I love watching well performed strokes, but I question the sanity of anyone who signs up for the 200 fly without being coerced.
  7. The Fortress's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson
    The 200 fly is the best swimming event, of course; apparently even "pure" sprinters fall under its spell.

    If I had any kind of breaststroke, the 400 IM would probably be my favorite event. It is not for the faint of heart and I imagine it is interesting to train for.

    As a spectator, I think IM races are the most interesting to watch because of the potential for reversals and lead-changes.
    Totally agree about watching IM races. They're very exciting. Though it seems the breaststrokers always dominate.

    I swam the 200 fly zillions of times as a kid. Fly, not back, was my best stroke in my later teen years. Interestingly, I almost never died on the last 50. (Thanks to those mega yardage workouts that left me burned out and injured. )
  8. qbrain's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fortress
    It's a constant refrain in class "lock the knee, lock the knee, lock the knee" ... A principle of yoga seems to be that it is good to stretch the tendons as well as the muscles. We swimmers all know it's a bad idea to stretch the shoulder tendons; it's probably the same with knees.
    Ok, I won't be attending Bikram.
  9. The Fortress's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by qbrain
    I love watching well performed strokes, but I question the sanity of anyone who signs up for the 200 fly without being coerced.
    Hence the notion of kicking a 2 fly. Aside from Aquaman, virtually no masters swimmer can maintain "well performed" strokes for a 2 fly. So kicking avoids ugliness and butterfrog.
  10. The Fortress's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by qbrain
    Ok, I won't be attending Bikram.
    Well, I have to go at least one more time with Jazz so that Geek can be Streakageek in the 2 fly.

    My observation could be flawed. I know others that think Bikram helps avoid and heal injuries.